Jogo was done dirty by Greg, people sympathize with him.
He was humiliated by Satoru and then got played by Sukuna. Two strongest sorcerers in the verse.
Imo, Jogo vs Toji๐ could go either way.
Jogo s domains heat would kill toji yโall forget heโs literally a regular dude with no CE and enhanced stats other than that jogoat is faster stronger it would be tough but heโd win the Jogo downplay is wild like pole think heโs shi cause he went and lost against the titans of the verse
You forget Toji would never enter Jogoโs domain and only weak sorcerers were the ones that burned up
Toji is literally stronger than Jogo and more durability
The only thing he has is some fire
Jogo tanked a red from gojo and multiple blue infused punches. Toji couldn't tank a red from a weaker younger gojo. There I proved he's more durable
Jogo blitzed a 1 armed naobito . So at best naobito with 2 arms is as fast as jogo. Naobito is faster than naoya. Base naoya was faster than awakened maki. Awakened maki = toji in speed. So jogo is faster than toji. If you know basic scaling this really isn't that hard to understand
Even IF I give them equal durability and speed jogo still obliterates because of his insane healing, mobility and ridiculously high ap. His massive aoe attacks will completely destroy toji
Jogo has regeneration, he spat blood from a single blue punch.
Jogo never blitz Naobito. Anime only. In the manga Naobito evaded Jogo while severely injured and 1 arm.
Jogo then hits Naobito in his blind spot.
Toji is relative/superior to Naobito in speed, the fact is Jogoโs only edge is regeneration
A weaker Maki survived Jogoโs flames, Toji would be fine.
Ok? The regeneration is part of his durability. And he survived a red point blank which is a better durability feat than anything tojis shown. Regardless of his regeneration jogo literally tanked the red without getting obliterated.
In the manga naobito evaded a single strike before getting cooked. So yes he got blitzed in the manga it just took slightly longer. He literally went around him and hit him in his blind spot before naobito could even react.
Toji is slower than naobito. And jogo is as fast if not faster. Jogo is faster
A weaker maki survived because jogo obviously used his flames to incapacitate everyone before finishing them off first. He didn't see her as a threat and hence didnt put thar much energy into his flames against anyone there. We both know jogos flames can we much much more hotter as shown in the manga and anime against sukuna. He's a direct counter to toji and mid diffs him
So you just ignore the rest of my comment? Lmao. Durability and regeneration go hand in hand here. And like I said tanking a red has nothing to do with regeneration
Jogo failed to speed kill a slower, disbalanced Naobito, he is in no way much faster.
He was never blitz, blind spot.
I ignored your stuff because they were not good enough to bother.
It's pretty explicitly stated that Toji's absolute lack of CE actually grants him a level of durability against cursed energy that can at least rival some sorcerers reinforcing themselves with CE. It's the reason he can see and interact with cursed still.
Bro YUJI survived his domain and we see him getting burned by lava, because he was a dumbass and accidentally touched it. It will do nothing to Toji and itโs not like he could get trapped in it to begin with.
He'll willingly enter the domain since he's mindless and cocky. Regardless jogo doesn't need it to win. Yuji survived cause he's close to gojo and he had sukuna in him passively protecting him. He also has insane physicals
Bro we literally see he touched the love on God burnt barely singed his fingers gojo was not protecting him from nothing. Torj's physicals are 100 times than yuji's. Yall just overrate him because he's an underdog.
Tojis physicals aren't hundred times yujis. Yuji is literally the peak of physicals because of kenjaku. He also has sukuna in him which makes him resistant to most elements and poisons. Toji is a normal human with enhanced physicals. He's getting turned to ash in jogos domain which is literally inside a volcano. Gojo literally says " don't move far away from me or you'll get burned and die". Read the manga or watch the show maybe
Are you OK genuinely how did you come to that conclusion?. Yuji is relative to Megumi, Megumi is getting perception blized by Toji, nothing in the manga says he has the best physicals (they say its good but not the best)... actually that's Toji's and Maki's nerative to have the best physicals because of heavenly restriction. (Sukuna said as much)
Gojo literally says " don't move far away from me **or you'll get burned and die".** IDK where did this line come from buts its not in the manga, again he touched the lava and nothing happened.
Yujis physicals aren't relative to megumi. You're actually deluded if you think that. Yuji is the perfect vessel for the king of curses and the only one who can control him. He's able to casually survive dismantles to his face and body. His physicals are very relative to toji
Regardless gojo canonically protected yuji from the heat. Him touching the lava is literally for comedic effect. Again read the chapter again or watch the anime. Gojo clearly tells yuji not to get away from him or he would die. Do you even know how hot the inside of a volcano is ๐๐๐? Toji and maki are not surviving that. This doesnt matter ofcourse since jogo doesnt need his domain to kill toji or maki. Hes faster and more durable. He has much higher ap. At best you could argue they have equal speeds but then he'd still win because of ap. You can't speed blitz someone that relative to you in speed. He also has much better regeneration. He can fly and get out of range and spam insects and lava everywhere. Learn to scale and come back.
Not to mention jogo wasn't trying to kill yuji since he needed him alive
Megumi also could have been a storage sukuna, sukuna gut Lucky bro was uber depressed because his sister died. You already made a mistake in the first sentence.
Did bro just said casually.... but you know what I'll let that slide, but I won't let it slide that you completely ingnored, maki Ate a cleave to the face and its only skin deap and lived a black flash to the chest, while yuji is on his knees from a dismantle bro need yuta to save him from a cleave .... ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ.
If you're talking about when sakuna was NERFED to less than 10% of his curse technique power you're not worth talking too.
Jogo got blitzed by sukuna bro couldn't land a single hit, while Maki is going band for band casually no sword needed. Speaking about durability bro couldn't survive take a dismantle without needing regen, Makinis tanken cleave. Bro is relative to nabito, toji is faster than someone that's faster than noabito. Did you forget maki can hop on air practically flying???
Megumi couldnt have been storage for sukuna. Thats pure headcanon. He could only hold his ct back but sukuna still had full control of his body UNLIKE yuji who can literally completely control sukuna apart from when hes force fed 10 fingers at once. Band for band ahahahahhahahahahahahHhah ๐๐๐๐๐. She lasted half a chapter and her best feat is tanking a black flash from a weakened severely nerfed sukuna, with no domain and rct . Even larue tanked a black flash from that sukuna lmaooooo. 15f yuji sukuna >>>>> current sukuna who's completely nerfed. Jogo tanked a red and several blue punches from a prime gojo. You've just proved you're a maki/ toji fanboy and nothing more. Naobito is literally faster than base naoya who's faster than maki ๐๐. Did you even read the manga? Naobito is faster than toji and jogo blitzed a 1 arm naobito. 2 arm naobito is at best as fast as jogo. Maki can't " walk on air". That's pure headcanon. It's the same reason toji needed naobito and playful cloud to reach dagon who was getting out of range by flying. Once jogo flies out of reach he just douses the block with lava, spams his insects and wins.
Toji and maki definitely mid diff jogo
But just one thing I wanna correct,
Maki never blitzed curse naoya...I hope u don't think maki and toji can travel at mach-3 speed cuz that's cap.
Maki only dodged the attack because her REACTION SPEED is mach-3 and the environment was telling her where the attacks were coming from.
In terms of movement speed, maki/toji is still slower than human naoya.
But their reaction speed is Mach-3.
Idk man the scaling in jjk is weird. Yuji dodges point blank piercing blood traveling the speed of sound but get blitzed by Naoya Pre Cursed spirit whoโs not even Mach 3 yet. But if we do decide to follow the stories statements despite inconsistencies I still think maki and Toji are borderline super sonic in combat speed. Given how fast they still are when it comes to top speedsters in the verse.
>both have 4 letter names
>both victimised teenagers for fun and profit
>both seem like they would spend all day gambling given the chance
>both very handsome
I predict they leave together for a warm beer at a cheap izakaya down the street and wait for all this to blow over
Probably a result of Shibuya being fresh in our minds again along with newcomers, which is when Jogo shines most. That saidโฆ cute gremlin, 6F victim ๐
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To be fair I agree Toji and Maki claps Jogo but I just want to point out that the attack Jogo use against Weakened Maki is obviously not his strongest attack Jogo has
Toji is weaker than Jogo stop the cap tf
Jogo bodies
Jogo was done dirty by Greg, people sympathize with him. He was humiliated by Satoru and then got played by Sukuna. Two strongest sorcerers in the verse. Imo, Jogo vs Toji๐ could go either way.
Naoya disagrees
Jogo s domains heat would kill toji yโall forget heโs literally a regular dude with no CE and enhanced stats other than that jogoat is faster stronger it would be tough but heโd win the Jogo downplay is wild like pole think heโs shi cause he went and lost against the titans of the verse
You forget Toji would never enter Jogoโs domain and only weak sorcerers were the ones that burned up Toji is literally stronger than Jogo and more durability The only thing he has is some fire
Except he will since he's mindless and a killing machine. He'll get cocky and enter and die. Jogo has more durability and is faster.
Jogo is in no way more durable or faster
Jogo tanked a red from gojo and multiple blue infused punches. Toji couldn't tank a red from a weaker younger gojo. There I proved he's more durable Jogo blitzed a 1 armed naobito . So at best naobito with 2 arms is as fast as jogo. Naobito is faster than naoya. Base naoya was faster than awakened maki. Awakened maki = toji in speed. So jogo is faster than toji. If you know basic scaling this really isn't that hard to understand Even IF I give them equal durability and speed jogo still obliterates because of his insane healing, mobility and ridiculously high ap. His massive aoe attacks will completely destroy toji
Jogo has regeneration, he spat blood from a single blue punch. Jogo never blitz Naobito. Anime only. In the manga Naobito evaded Jogo while severely injured and 1 arm. Jogo then hits Naobito in his blind spot. Toji is relative/superior to Naobito in speed, the fact is Jogoโs only edge is regeneration A weaker Maki survived Jogoโs flames, Toji would be fine.
Ok? The regeneration is part of his durability. And he survived a red point blank which is a better durability feat than anything tojis shown. Regardless of his regeneration jogo literally tanked the red without getting obliterated. In the manga naobito evaded a single strike before getting cooked. So yes he got blitzed in the manga it just took slightly longer. He literally went around him and hit him in his blind spot before naobito could even react. Toji is slower than naobito. And jogo is as fast if not faster. Jogo is faster A weaker maki survived because jogo obviously used his flames to incapacitate everyone before finishing them off first. He didn't see her as a threat and hence didnt put thar much energy into his flames against anyone there. We both know jogos flames can we much much more hotter as shown in the manga and anime against sukuna. He's a direct counter to toji and mid diffs him
Regeneration is not in durability. Regeneration is endurance and durability is toughness.
So you just ignore the rest of my comment? Lmao. Durability and regeneration go hand in hand here. And like I said tanking a red has nothing to do with regeneration
Jogo failed to speed kill a slower, disbalanced Naobito, he is in no way much faster. He was never blitz, blind spot. I ignored your stuff because they were not good enough to bother.
It's pretty explicitly stated that Toji's absolute lack of CE actually grants him a level of durability against cursed energy that can at least rival some sorcerers reinforcing themselves with CE. It's the reason he can see and interact with cursed still.
Bro YUJI survived his domain and we see him getting burned by lava, because he was a dumbass and accidentally touched it. It will do nothing to Toji and itโs not like he could get trapped in it to begin with.
He'll willingly enter the domain since he's mindless and cocky. Regardless jogo doesn't need it to win. Yuji survived cause he's close to gojo and he had sukuna in him passively protecting him. He also has insane physicals
Bro we literally see he touched the love on God burnt barely singed his fingers gojo was not protecting him from nothing. Torj's physicals are 100 times than yuji's. Yall just overrate him because he's an underdog.
Tojis physicals aren't hundred times yujis. Yuji is literally the peak of physicals because of kenjaku. He also has sukuna in him which makes him resistant to most elements and poisons. Toji is a normal human with enhanced physicals. He's getting turned to ash in jogos domain which is literally inside a volcano. Gojo literally says " don't move far away from me or you'll get burned and die". Read the manga or watch the show maybe
Are you OK genuinely how did you come to that conclusion?. Yuji is relative to Megumi, Megumi is getting perception blized by Toji, nothing in the manga says he has the best physicals (they say its good but not the best)... actually that's Toji's and Maki's nerative to have the best physicals because of heavenly restriction. (Sukuna said as much) Gojo literally says " don't move far away from me **or you'll get burned and die".** IDK where did this line come from buts its not in the manga, again he touched the lava and nothing happened.
Yujis physicals aren't relative to megumi. You're actually deluded if you think that. Yuji is the perfect vessel for the king of curses and the only one who can control him. He's able to casually survive dismantles to his face and body. His physicals are very relative to toji Regardless gojo canonically protected yuji from the heat. Him touching the lava is literally for comedic effect. Again read the chapter again or watch the anime. Gojo clearly tells yuji not to get away from him or he would die. Do you even know how hot the inside of a volcano is ๐๐๐? Toji and maki are not surviving that. This doesnt matter ofcourse since jogo doesnt need his domain to kill toji or maki. Hes faster and more durable. He has much higher ap. At best you could argue they have equal speeds but then he'd still win because of ap. You can't speed blitz someone that relative to you in speed. He also has much better regeneration. He can fly and get out of range and spam insects and lava everywhere. Learn to scale and come back. Not to mention jogo wasn't trying to kill yuji since he needed him alive
Megumi also could have been a storage sukuna, sukuna gut Lucky bro was uber depressed because his sister died. You already made a mistake in the first sentence. Did bro just said casually.... but you know what I'll let that slide, but I won't let it slide that you completely ingnored, maki Ate a cleave to the face and its only skin deap and lived a black flash to the chest, while yuji is on his knees from a dismantle bro need yuta to save him from a cleave .... ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ. If you're talking about when sakuna was NERFED to less than 10% of his curse technique power you're not worth talking too. Jogo got blitzed by sukuna bro couldn't land a single hit, while Maki is going band for band casually no sword needed. Speaking about durability bro couldn't survive take a dismantle without needing regen, Makinis tanken cleave. Bro is relative to nabito, toji is faster than someone that's faster than noabito. Did you forget maki can hop on air practically flying???
Megumi couldnt have been storage for sukuna. Thats pure headcanon. He could only hold his ct back but sukuna still had full control of his body UNLIKE yuji who can literally completely control sukuna apart from when hes force fed 10 fingers at once. Band for band ahahahahhahahahahahahHhah ๐๐๐๐๐. She lasted half a chapter and her best feat is tanking a black flash from a weakened severely nerfed sukuna, with no domain and rct . Even larue tanked a black flash from that sukuna lmaooooo. 15f yuji sukuna >>>>> current sukuna who's completely nerfed. Jogo tanked a red and several blue punches from a prime gojo. You've just proved you're a maki/ toji fanboy and nothing more. Naobito is literally faster than base naoya who's faster than maki ๐๐. Did you even read the manga? Naobito is faster than toji and jogo blitzed a 1 arm naobito. 2 arm naobito is at best as fast as jogo. Maki can't " walk on air". That's pure headcanon. It's the same reason toji needed naobito and playful cloud to reach dagon who was getting out of range by flying. Once jogo flies out of reach he just douses the block with lava, spams his insects and wins.
Man im a give u 18hrs bro I'm going to flood you with pages on pages.
Toji and maki definitely mid diff jogo But just one thing I wanna correct, Maki never blitzed curse naoya...I hope u don't think maki and toji can travel at mach-3 speed cuz that's cap. Maki only dodged the attack because her REACTION SPEED is mach-3 and the environment was telling her where the attacks were coming from. In terms of movement speed, maki/toji is still slower than human naoya. But their reaction speed is Mach-3.
>Toji and maki definitely shitstomps jogo Stop fanboying
I have changed my opinion a long time ago. Toji and maki mid diff jogo
Idk man the scaling in jjk is weird. Yuji dodges point blank piercing blood traveling the speed of sound but get blitzed by Naoya Pre Cursed spirit whoโs not even Mach 3 yet. But if we do decide to follow the stories statements despite inconsistencies I still think maki and Toji are borderline super sonic in combat speed. Given how fast they still are when it comes to top speedsters in the verse.
The speed of sound is mach 1 ๐
THANK YOU this Jogo wank is insane ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
Maki didn't blitz Naoya. And it's obvious the flames Jogo used on them wasn't his strongest flames. Toji might win but they still belong to same tier.
>both have 4 letter names >both victimised teenagers for fun and profit >both seem like they would spend all day gambling given the chance >both very handsome I predict they leave together for a warm beer at a cheap izakaya down the street and wait for all this to blow over
I agree that Jogo is handsome, such a goat
I think people just feel bad for bro
Thank you. Finally people putting respect on Toji's good, bastard name.
Probably a result of Shibuya being fresh in our minds again along with newcomers, which is when Jogo shines most. That saidโฆ cute gremlin, 6F victim ๐
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To be fair I agree Toji and Maki claps Jogo but I just want to point out that the attack Jogo use against Weakened Maki is obviously not his strongest attack Jogo has