It's a joke, I get annoyed at the guy when he slides into the replies of the mildest criticism, but tbh he's alright and put a lot of work into Genesis. It's not his fault it was already a catastrophe
Kit the scale of the mods is just insane and covers too many unrelated fields.
Is rather have it split up into a few chunks instead of being forced to combine everything.
I just want better cities/trade and weed get better if those were two separate mods, then a third for factions 4th for crafting, 5th for weap/armor.
Make them big but seperately so so I can choose what I want and the mod makers can have shit easier to work on idk damn.
>Make them big but seperately
One issue with this is interdependencies, like if you want one of the new factions to be using some of the new armor and weapons.
At minimum, doing this would likely require a compatibility patch between most of the individual component mods, which does increase the work needed to maintain and update.
Results in the same problem, and the same solution. Need a compatibility patch, which is essentially a set of instructions for when the game runs into something unexpected.
To use the above example, if you make the mod above with the new factions and the new weapons, and then mod a switch to turn off the weapons specifically, the faction mod which references those weapons when the faction members are spawned is going to freak out and wonder where the fuck its weapons are, so you need to write a set of instructions that says 'hey, no worries, if the faction weapons are turned off give them horse choppers.'
That's still doable, but modding is still a ton of work already, and people do it largely for free as a hobby. That results in some mods where folks are willing and able to put in that sort of redundancy and others where they aren't or just don't have the time and resources.
That's also why more robust modding support is something we're hoping for in Kenshi 2. Kenshi isn't terrible to mod, but it's limited by an antiquated engine and it isn't terribly well optimized.
Na, it's not that hard - just need to logically chunk it. Equipment dissemination is core, then add vanilla faction/town overhauls (giving them the equipment, souping up the vanilla towns, could be two modules), new factions and towns, world states light, world states complete, and then 'ribbons' (i.e., it always annoyed me that genesis includes things like 'Let's Talk' which is just an annoying mod, but really difficult to rip out of the bundle in FCS on the users end.)
But if the master file is all one big FCS project now, then moduling it out now will be pretty difficult. I think his dream was to create a mod where players could just have a single mod in their modlist - but players were never gonna do that.
A lot of hashish was done before he wrote this bs.
But one thing is certain, kenshi mods are very lacking of actually quality content. The best armor mods are still miles away form vanilla samurai armor in terms of design.
You can't blame them either with whatever the framework we have. Then you have to test the armor to make it works for universal races. I have coded several RimWorld mods but gave up on this one.
I found a reskin mod for the weapons that actually looks great, I think it's called pipe weapons or smth like that, it makes it so every weapon was visibly made from old plumbing pipes n shit, it really enhance the Mad-Max-ish ambiance of the game imo
It’s really odd I will say that much I’ve made a mod before and creating a npc or faction is simple enough but some of the stuff is so weirdly implemented
I heard that the Guild also cannibalizes people who oppose them, which is honestly based and very much in the spirit of Kenshi. Glory to the Genesis Modding Guild, long may the mods live!
Was almost a part of Genesis thanks to my Guild of Surgeons mod. It turns out I kinda suck at working with someone else's vision. I was also suffering a personal tragedy at the time, but still.
KEK, isnt that most people in general?
well you made a great mod, even if the vision of it has changed it provided and exceptional focal point for genesis to graviate around when it came to medics. ANd you're more than welcome to hangout in the discord whenever and shoot the shit. Sorry to hear about your loss, hopefully years later you're doing better
I personally have seen it worse than what this guy says. The Genesis Modding Guild killed my dog. They threatened me and then took my children. I haven't seen them in weeks. The Guild has forced me to humiliate myself publicly, which has led to me being arrested multiple times. It's at the point that even my lawyer is scared of the Guild. Now, some of you will probably say that I never had kids, a dog, or even a lawyer. And honestly, thanks to the Guild, I don't even know anymore. Believe me when I say stay away from the kenshi modding community. It's toxic.
Anyone remember that Skyrim mod that put Oblivion Gates in all the towns, and the hubbub around that? I have tons of speculation why modding communities attract these types but it's all armchair psych shit. All I know is that whether it's Skyrim, Rimworld, Project Zomboid, or Kenshi, if you look close enough at a modding community you will find these kinds of people.
I heard some weird shit about Genesis creators. Like they were indeed over the head and believed that they ahould decide what are canon mods and whatnot (genesis is weird at places).
But holy hell the lore became expanded. It's now a Guild.
There have definitely been variations of this as long as I've played the game. Not just with Genesis, but a number of self-proclaimed experts who are convinced their theories are actually Canon. I'm fine with certain things being widely accepted. There is a lot of fragments of scattered lore, and some people have put them together into very coherent packages. But they still have plenty of conclusions and gaps they filled that are still theories.
Either way, I've heard weird things about Genesis. But it usually comes down to wild rivalries between modders. Or people who decided to get into a pissing contest with Genesis mods on the Genesis Discord.
I find the majority of the Kenshi community to be pretty chill compared to some other games.
I’ve released like 4-5 mods at this point and have never been harassed by the Genesis Modding Guild. I guess I’m just not cool enough to be cyberstalked /j
As someone who has made 2 small mods I haven’t seen any issues. I made vampiric fogmen and light speed beak things. I’m planning to make a mod called the Glock thing that is just a fast beak thing with a Glock for a head. If I can make it shoot projectiles even better.
Genesis deliberately has me break laws to accrue a massive bounty, then turns me in for the authorities and busts me out and starts the process all over again.
The Genesis guild has also sent me to jail for poverty multiple times
Imagine pretending someone who knows how to work Ogre3D has time to stalk or dox anybody.
Genuinely regarded schizo poster seeking attention with a completely made up story.
Mad ranting aside, i used to like the Genesis mod a few years ago. However, now it is filled with soooooooooo much crap, the game is barely recognizable. And a lot of the added content is questionably stable.
Dawg, it's a singleplayer game and mods are freely available on multiple platforms.
How *the fuck* would you figure out a group like this exists if they even do?
i just want a mod to make it so enemies at my gates don’t phase through my gate and go flying into my base through the gate when they get KOd by my crossbows. Also neutral patrols that shouldn’t be hostile become hostile to my base when they try to walk through it. Persistent and amateurish issues in the base game.
Is it good? Genesis? I never used it cuz its too big for me to edit it in fcs, i prefer UWE + LoK + Living/Reactive world, the rest is just animation and item stuff and my own mod.
Everyone, this is unfortunately true. When I published my Kenshi mods, I had to go through a rigorous testing period with the genesis modding cabal in order to get it onto the steam workshop.
The Spice must flow.
On a serious note, Genesis is so big a mod pack at this point that it runs even worse than vanilla Kenshi-if you think your mods are hot shit and need to be added to it, there should be heafty gatekeeping there. Prove it actually is worth having in there. Prove it plays well with the core mods. Prove it doesn’t add issues to the already overburdened Ogre engine. Prove it augments the core Kenshi experience instead of replacing it. If anything Genesis needs LESS mods.
Also, if you’re going to accuse someone of actual crimes, show receipts. In this day and age it’s very simple: if you can’t commit to a minimum of filing a police report and showing it, then you don’t think the crime actually happened. You’re just trying to emotionally manipulate people.
I barely have any mods on kenshi but all I do is just click subscribe on steam workshop things. Crucifixion,expanded cannibals and bandits etc (the ones with the funny armours) and reactive world, that's about it. I don even know what a genisis is
Sorry guys, this is true. Source - my dad is Genesis. He's taking me to Disney with all the bounty money we made.
I always suspected the Crabs had ties to organized crime...
You called them out by name, elite crab kill team are already en route to your house. May Okran guide your soul.
Don't you dare insult the beloved crabs. My beautiful baby crab doesn't deserve this disrespect
Son? this is Atlas Genesis the global leader of mod making. Please return home
Frick you dad, I'm busy making Equinox
quality schizoposting
based misinformation spreader
(Only if intentional)
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Interesting I’m pretty knew to the game, so I was like tf is this
“A joke orr” was what I thought
It's a joke, I get annoyed at the guy when he slides into the replies of the mildest criticism, but tbh he's alright and put a lot of work into Genesis. It's not his fault it was already a catastrophe
Kit the scale of the mods is just insane and covers too many unrelated fields. Is rather have it split up into a few chunks instead of being forced to combine everything. I just want better cities/trade and weed get better if those were two separate mods, then a third for factions 4th for crafting, 5th for weap/armor. Make them big but seperately so so I can choose what I want and the mod makers can have shit easier to work on idk damn.
>Make them big but seperately One issue with this is interdependencies, like if you want one of the new factions to be using some of the new armor and weapons. At minimum, doing this would likely require a compatibility patch between most of the individual component mods, which does increase the work needed to maintain and update.
Damn yeah that's true. Idk then maybe like a food installer where we can shit shit off I guess. I suppose there really isn't a great option then.
Results in the same problem, and the same solution. Need a compatibility patch, which is essentially a set of instructions for when the game runs into something unexpected. To use the above example, if you make the mod above with the new factions and the new weapons, and then mod a switch to turn off the weapons specifically, the faction mod which references those weapons when the faction members are spawned is going to freak out and wonder where the fuck its weapons are, so you need to write a set of instructions that says 'hey, no worries, if the faction weapons are turned off give them horse choppers.' That's still doable, but modding is still a ton of work already, and people do it largely for free as a hobby. That results in some mods where folks are willing and able to put in that sort of redundancy and others where they aren't or just don't have the time and resources. That's also why more robust modding support is something we're hoping for in Kenshi 2. Kenshi isn't terrible to mod, but it's limited by an antiquated engine and it isn't terribly well optimized.
Na, it's not that hard - just need to logically chunk it. Equipment dissemination is core, then add vanilla faction/town overhauls (giving them the equipment, souping up the vanilla towns, could be two modules), new factions and towns, world states light, world states complete, and then 'ribbons' (i.e., it always annoyed me that genesis includes things like 'Let's Talk' which is just an annoying mod, but really difficult to rip out of the bundle in FCS on the users end.) But if the master file is all one big FCS project now, then moduling it out now will be pretty difficult. I think his dream was to create a mod where players could just have a single mod in their modlist - but players were never gonna do that.
Lmao I love how u describe him, it is a lot of dedication tho holy
A lot of hashish was done before he wrote this bs. But one thing is certain, kenshi mods are very lacking of actually quality content. The best armor mods are still miles away form vanilla samurai armor in terms of design.
You can't blame them either with whatever the framework we have. Then you have to test the armor to make it works for universal races. I have coded several RimWorld mods but gave up on this one.
The Ogre engine lives up to it's name (unfortunately.)
hard to imagine how Torchlight 1 and 2 was made on it
Bro what I didn't realize those were made on the same engine, that's insane
Sad there was only two of those games made
Give the Fate series a peek if you haven't already. They're basically the single dungeon predecessor to the Torchlight games.
What the… it’s the same engine?!?!
Is Kenshi 2 being made on the same engine?
Unreal 5
Oh sick! UE5 is powerful, but Epic can set some nasty pitfalls...
He must have walked into Flats Lagoon and bought the entire supply I sold to the shops there after my hash caravan came through
I found a reskin mod for the weapons that actually looks great, I think it's called pipe weapons or smth like that, it makes it so every weapon was visibly made from old plumbing pipes n shit, it really enhance the Mad-Max-ish ambiance of the game imo
As a daily hashish smoker I resent your notion. It was just a little bit of hashish done before he wrote that bs.
This discussion has been making me want to look into Kenshi modding. Sounds like it can be tricky, though
It’s really odd I will say that much I’ve made a mod before and creating a npc or faction is simple enough but some of the stuff is so weirdly implemented
I heard that the Guild also cannibalizes people who oppose them, which is honestly based and very much in the spirit of Kenshi. Glory to the Genesis Modding Guild, long may the mods live!
Genesis guys do kinda suck but they have absolutely no influence like described lol
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Why
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you're supposed to make me dislike him, not the reverse
ok
Interesting kinks, bro
And then he said, "It's Genesising time!" And Genesised all over the place.
Was almost a part of Genesis thanks to my Guild of Surgeons mod. It turns out I kinda suck at working with someone else's vision. I was also suffering a personal tragedy at the time, but still.
KEK, isnt that most people in general? well you made a great mod, even if the vision of it has changed it provided and exceptional focal point for genesis to graviate around when it came to medics. ANd you're more than welcome to hangout in the discord whenever and shoot the shit. Sorry to hear about your loss, hopefully years later you're doing better
I am doing far better thank you, keep meaning to try and get back to working on GoS and other mod ideas but life is very busy these days
yep i know that. working on a massive project for valheim atm.
Anyone who says "it's just a joke" are already on the pockets of big genesis.
Yes, the secret kenshi modding cabal is real They also eat infants for lunch
Average HN scizo poster
You fucking darkened
Chugging rn
We do bot claim this fiend. Take back your Narko worshipper!
I personally have seen it worse than what this guy says. The Genesis Modding Guild killed my dog. They threatened me and then took my children. I haven't seen them in weeks. The Guild has forced me to humiliate myself publicly, which has led to me being arrested multiple times. It's at the point that even my lawyer is scared of the Guild. Now, some of you will probably say that I never had kids, a dog, or even a lawyer. And honestly, thanks to the Guild, I don't even know anymore. Believe me when I say stay away from the kenshi modding community. It's toxic.
The Kenshi modding Mafia
This is your brain on Okran.
Bro switched kenshi and starsector
Wouldn't be surprised if true. This type of psychotic behavior is far too common in modding communities.
Anyone remember that Skyrim mod that put Oblivion Gates in all the towns, and the hubbub around that? I have tons of speculation why modding communities attract these types but it's all armchair psych shit. All I know is that whether it's Skyrim, Rimworld, Project Zomboid, or Kenshi, if you look close enough at a modding community you will find these kinds of people.
I heard some weird shit about Genesis creators. Like they were indeed over the head and believed that they ahould decide what are canon mods and whatnot (genesis is weird at places). But holy hell the lore became expanded. It's now a Guild.
There have definitely been variations of this as long as I've played the game. Not just with Genesis, but a number of self-proclaimed experts who are convinced their theories are actually Canon. I'm fine with certain things being widely accepted. There is a lot of fragments of scattered lore, and some people have put them together into very coherent packages. But they still have plenty of conclusions and gaps they filled that are still theories. Either way, I've heard weird things about Genesis. But it usually comes down to wild rivalries between modders. Or people who decided to get into a pissing contest with Genesis mods on the Genesis Discord. I find the majority of the Kenshi community to be pretty chill compared to some other games.
lol what?
İ think the real problem is the 45 people that believed and liked the comment
I’ve released like 4-5 mods at this point and have never been harassed by the Genesis Modding Guild. I guess I’m just not cool enough to be cyberstalked /j
Do… do you want to be cyberstalked? Can’t tell.
Don’t we all want to be wanted?
Genesis does have creeps in there but they're relatively easy to ignore.
As someone who has made 2 small mods I haven’t seen any issues. I made vampiric fogmen and light speed beak things. I’m planning to make a mod called the Glock thing that is just a fast beak thing with a Glock for a head. If I can make it shoot projectiles even better.
Genesis deliberately has me break laws to accrue a massive bounty, then turns me in for the authorities and busts me out and starts the process all over again. The Genesis guild has also sent me to jail for poverty multiple times
Can confirm, bro is spittin fax(Was doxed by Big Genesis once. Would not recommend going against them)
This guy's name is P. Sherman. 32 Wallaby Way, Sydney AU. -- Big G
42 Wallaby***
As a member of Big Genesis, I am required to be both evil and incompetent.
Imagine pretending someone who knows how to work Ogre3D has time to stalk or dox anybody. Genuinely regarded schizo poster seeking attention with a completely made up story.
This smells of GPT
Context to the situation?
Genesis and The Guild were in the closet making mods and I saw one of the mods and the mod looked at me
The time spent to tear down other people’s content could be better spent to improve your own.
Looks like an interesting copypasta
Buddy was so unhinged his review was taken off steam and he had to find other places to post it😂
With 12,000 dollars kenshi 2 would already be released
Mad ranting aside, i used to like the Genesis mod a few years ago. However, now it is filled with soooooooooo much crap, the game is barely recognizable. And a lot of the added content is questionably stable.
Is this ai generated?
No clue just saw tryna learn about the game
It’s a single player game, just do your own thing…
He mixed up Blizzard with Genesis
Source: Trust me bro.
Source: It came to me in a dream.
Source: I came in a dream
Source: I came.
Source: I saw.
Source: I
Conquered
No cut efficiency enjoyer take
Trueee
Based schizo
Genesis is a weird overhaul mod, I really didn't like it. it added too much shit that doesn't make sense.
it's true
I'd like to know what kind of stuff does this guy take
Imagine playing this game for some modding guild and not because you love beep, shek women and green numbers lmao
They are a right nasty bunch of bellends, but they don't have any power, money, or skills necessary to do 1% of what that nutter claims.
wrong game. This shit *actually exists* tho.
Out of curiosity, what game has a modding community this fucked up?
Skyrim has more than it's fair share of ego-trippers.
Arma 3 lol
I think you all are pretty great.
Less capping, more yapping honestly.
This game start mod any good tho…?
Bro just Yappin you mean
This guy Holy Nations.
Mfw I spread lies and misinformation on the internet
He’s got the Kenshi spirit
What a freaking nerd.
Bro is yapping
Lying? Is the guy lying? Too many kids flooding grandpas reddit with their dumb words.
I don't even use Genesis...
Dawg, it's a singleplayer game and mods are freely available on multiple platforms. How *the fuck* would you figure out a group like this exists if they even do?
this guy is genuinely just a paranoid schizophrenic
i just want a mod to make it so enemies at my gates don’t phase through my gate and go flying into my base through the gate when they get KOd by my crossbows. Also neutral patrols that shouldn’t be hostile become hostile to my base when they try to walk through it. Persistent and amateurish issues in the base game.
Is it good? Genesis? I never used it cuz its too big for me to edit it in fcs, i prefer UWE + LoK + Living/Reactive world, the rest is just animation and item stuff and my own mod.
Bro forgot you're supposed to SELL the hashish, not INHALE it.
A 9am
Everyone, this is unfortunately true. When I published my Kenshi mods, I had to go through a rigorous testing period with the genesis modding cabal in order to get it onto the steam workshop.
The Spice must flow. On a serious note, Genesis is so big a mod pack at this point that it runs even worse than vanilla Kenshi-if you think your mods are hot shit and need to be added to it, there should be heafty gatekeeping there. Prove it actually is worth having in there. Prove it plays well with the core mods. Prove it doesn’t add issues to the already overburdened Ogre engine. Prove it augments the core Kenshi experience instead of replacing it. If anything Genesis needs LESS mods. Also, if you’re going to accuse someone of actual crimes, show receipts. In this day and age it’s very simple: if you can’t commit to a minimum of filing a police report and showing it, then you don’t think the crime actually happened. You’re just trying to emotionally manipulate people.
So why not just kill the members of the mod guild? Violence works.
I've only heard bad things about genesis, I still doubt they're doxxing people though; if they were more people would be talking about it by now.
I barely have any mods on kenshi but all I do is just click subscribe on steam workshop things. Crucifixion,expanded cannibals and bandits etc (the ones with the funny armours) and reactive world, that's about it. I don even know what a genisis is
Lol somebody believes this
No clue, but unsurprising if true
It's true that Kenshi Discord and Reddit is controlled by a guild, it's just not that guild.
Shek boobies guild
not far off to be honest
Is it the merchant's guild?
No, it's the Ssethzeentach African Approval Committee.
no
Dude wtf
i mean people who know, people who dont know memw
he is right????
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