Can I ask it differently? Castello's remains were found roughly 3 mo after her disappearance. Did RH's campaign of serial murder end then? Or did it continue with him using a different stretch of Ocean Pkwy to dispose of his victims? Or a totally unrelated spot?
I think thats a good question and that once they started finding remains in that area, he started looking for/found another place to dispose of his victims.
I 100% believe there are more victims, but to your point, I think he found a different place to get rid of any remains.
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I am interested to hear why. No evidence of trauma or of foul play, apparently. Strange coincidence that someone would commit suicide there. Why do you think Rex/somebody murdered her?
There are many reasons to believe her death is not a suicide:
- why drive from her home in Queens all the way to Ocean Parkway to drown yourself when there are plenty of accessible waterways minutes from your home.
- she was involved in sex work
- Natasha’s Mom said that Natasha felt she was being stalked leading up to her “death”
- the instantaneous narrative created by SCPD when her body was found 3 months later in virtually the same location she was alleged to have entered the water and with relatively little decomp.
- further narrative that was was bipolar
- further narrative from Newsday (basically controlled by Spota/Burke at that time) that Natasha went in AND came back on the ocean side of ocean parkway…astronomically improbable based on ocean currents.
- another (west)Gilgo beach ocean parkway victim
- in a recent FOIA request, a picture (redacted) of her body includes (apparently) yellow rope connected to her body (possibly indicating being bound)
At the end of the day, it is possible she committed suicide but IMHO and Occam’s Razor, unlikely.
If it were evidence there would have been charges would you agree? I’ll also point your attention to the fact that I said rather clearly that this was IMHO which means “in my humble opinion”.
It means in my honest opinion, but ok. No I do not agree there would be charges just if there was evidence of a crime, that is nonsensical. There are millons of crimes that have evidence a crime was committed without charges being brought against someone. Do you really believe that any time there is evidence a crime was committed they immediately charge someone? You laid out points, as though they were evidence and none of them are evidence or even a factual statement other than to call her a victim, but once again no evidence of that at all.
Why are people constantly trying to make people that just died out of bad luck or their own doings to be victims. Sometimes shit just doesn't go peoples way, and they die. It doesn't make them a bad person. Someone loved every single one of them. It sucks, but let the families get over it and stop trying to sensationalize their deaths, I promise you it hurts more in the long run than helps.
When Sandy came through in '12, she came roaring in from the South. It's fair to say that unless the victims were killed/disposed of after 2012 most everything was washed away.
Jmho.
well all the bodies were dumped on the bay side. idk the extent of the damage, i didn't live here at the time, but obviously there might be a cooling off period where he might not have continued dumping bodies after the search/possibly the hurricane. but once he saw that they stopped searching and things settled down, i could definitely see him returning to use it as a dump site.
The bodies were found on the ocean side of the barrier island right off Ocean Pkwy. When Sandy came through, she washed right over parts of the barrier island. There was so much sand pushed in out there that some of the Pkwy bridges were impassable, and that was on LI itself, not just the barrier islands.
I'm sorry, but the bodies weren't found on the Bay side. They were found on the ocean side. The sand you see to the South is the ocean beach.
ETA: Your link is broken.
I respect your position. I personally don't think 20 feet off of OP to North right near Gilgo Beach (an ocean beach) is the Bay side, but that's just me.
That said, any updates on what's going on in Manorville !?
[the north part of the barrier island (where the bodies were dumped, NORTH of ocean parkway) is on the BAY side of the island. you can access that side of the island from the bay, not from the ocean. dropped a pin exactly where bodies were dumped. that's why they speculate that he could have a boat and accessed the dumping ground FROM THE BAY.](https://imgur.com/gallery/m1XuobK)
hope this helps!
what's with the downvotes? I'm from LI and I would definitely consider from that picture the victims to have been dumped on the "bay side," of the barrier island, at least.
Born, raised, still live here, and i've never heard anyone refer to "bay side" as meaning on the main island, towards the bay. That is most certainly the bay side of the barrier island.
You and OP are absolutely correct. Born and raised on LI, Town of Babylon. Surfed Gilgo for years. Definitely bayside. I was early of the opinion that they were possibly brought to the dump site by boat by a clammer (because of the “burlap” clue). Then I saw the map and how close they were to the parkway, thinking why trudge through that thicket to dump them closer to a spot more likely to be discovered.
The dissenter here must not be from LI. You have the main island, which is just “the island,” then you have the bay side and ocean side of the barrier islands.
I'm the dissenter, and I am from LI. I don't consider 20 or so feet off of OP to the N to be the Bay side. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and that's mine. Especially when each of the Gilgo 4 were found near Gilgo Beach, which is an ocean beach.
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It doesn't. That's not the Bay side. It's the Ocean side. I'm guessing you've either never been or are new to Long Island. With respect, I don't need your help.
how do you get there from the ocean? you would have to cross a beach and ocean parkway. the ocean is south. the south end of the barrier island is the ocean side. the north is accessible from the bay. what are you getting confused? i literally swim at coast guard cove all the time. in the BAY. on the NORTH side of the barrier island. NORTH of ocean parkway, right next to where the bodies were dumped.
do you not know north and south?
Blah blah blah. As an example, if you are driving east (on Ocean Pkwy) with the ocean on your right, there are little crossways that allow you to cross from Eastbound to Westbound. It's not that difficult to grasp. It's also in close proximity to the ocean, not Bay.
holy shit dude, yes you can cross, from the ocean side of the island to the bay side. [purple line is ocean parkway. all bodies were dumped NORTH of ocean parkway. if the ocean is on your right, the bay and the bodies were dumped....ON THE LEFT.](https://imgur.com/gallery/qcnR2oB)
It looks like RH drove east on Ocean Parkway (his house is to the west, correct?) to scope out for witnesses and cops. When he didn't see any he did a U turn, headed west, and dumped the bodies on the side of the westbound road, the north side of Ocean Parkway. If that pattern continues, where would the next logical dump site be west of Costello? Does the earth/road change right there? I'm just wondering where he would dump a body using that pattern after Costello. Thanks
If you're heading Westbound on Ocean parkway, Amber's body was dumped where I think he felt there was enough land to effectively hide it before the parking area for Gilgo Beach begins. I think he didn't want to get too close to the parking field, because IIRC, you can bring dogs onto the beach.
I'm completely speculating here. If a body were too close to the last parking spot and a person happened to get out of a car with a dog, it's possible the dog would pick up the scent.
Where have you seen that Rex worked as a lifeguard at Gilgo Beach?
I've seen it [reported](https://nypost.com/2023/07/17/accused-gilgo-beach-serial-killer-rex-heuermann-allegedly-had-just-one-question-for-his-jailers/) that he was a seasonal employee at Jones Beach State Park in the summer of 1981 and from 3/05/82 through 10/24/84. Jones Beach State Park is on the west end of the island, a separate area from Gilgo Beach.
I realized this is where my mistake was. This article mentions his job at Jones Beach and the next sentence is a quote from a lifeguard at Tobay Beach.
[https://nypost.com/2023/07/28/punching-bag-rex-heuermann-really-scared-peers-former-classmates/](https://nypost.com/2023/07/28/punching-bag-rex-heuermann-really-scared-peers-former-classmates/)
the water gets very close to the parkway within a half a football field, Then beyond that, it's about a half a football field to the parking area.
I wish we could attach photos to comment posts.
It looks like Coast Guard Cove is about 50 yards away, then on the other side of the cove its about 200 yards to the end of "Cottage Walk" which is a little road that runs parallel to the parkway with homes/cottages and looks like it has a shared entrance with the parking area.
I think his connection to Gilgo and the fact that where they were dumped you will be able to see the furthest whats coming behind you, are the keys here. I think the next logical spot would be on the other side of Gilgo Beach at the next little "knuckle" or pullover area(its not a pull over area anymore because of the Green Line, but they even contoured the Green Line to show it. The Gilgo Four were found near one of these pullovers. The bramble looks much thicker on the other side of Gilgo on Google right now in 2024 btw.
thanks. I was trying to figure out from google maps and memory. It's been a very long time since I've even been down to Jones Beach, I moved away in 1988 and haven't been to LI in a couple of years now.
You're being obtuse and OP is correct. The bodies were found on the north side of Ocean Parkway along the westbound lanes, aka the bay side of the barrier Island. Yes if you look due south, theres the Atlantic but, duh, it's a barrier Island.
I'm not being anything I asked OP to stop talking to me. I was not rude or condescending, unlike OP, was to me. I simply don't agree with OP, but I don't feel like having a reddit pissing contest with imgur links.
You literally did this to op when they were explaining something to you that you were wrong about. Just helping you understand how op felt when you did that to them.
What you don't get is I don't care. React in a flurry of downvotes. Who cares!? I was born at Good Sam and grew up out there. To me, they were found on the ocean side. It's that simple.
Other people can have other opinions, and that's fine. This isn't about being right.
The desire to crush people who don't agree is a cringe worthy show of insecurity. If it makes you feel better, have at it. I simply don't care.
Nope, I didn't. And what's your point other than to harrass me? If you want to consider 20 or so feet off of Ocean Parkwy to the N to be the bay side, that's your prerogative. I don't. Especially when each of the Gilgo 4 were found near Gilgo Beach, which is an ocean beach.
Do me favor, please stop talking to me.
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No your wrong the bodies were on the bay side. If you walk through the bramble of where the victims were found you’re walking into the bay. You need to cross 2 lanes of roadway, a median (also filled with shrubbery), and then another two lanes of roadway to be on the beach aka the ocean side. Like it’s ok to be wrong there’s irrefutable proof proving you wrong. I grew up and still live 7 min from where the victims were found. Take the loss.
Sandy washed over the entire barrier island and surged a considerable distance inland on the mainland too. If there were more bodies there, it's unlikely they will be found.
In addition to Superstorm Sandy stripping the shoreline along Ocean Parkway, [the state also completed a bike path in 2021](https://www.liherald.com/elmont/stories/ocean-parkway-bike-paths-10-mile-extension-is-open-three-months-early,131036) after many years of construction -- which means the authorities have probably gone over that stretch of land with a fine toothed comb.
i don't think so. the bramble is so difficult to navigate, i just know they cut down exactly what they needed to and paved it over and were done with it. if they were present during construction, it would have been noticed. they dragged their feet and twiddled their thumbs for 4 months just getting people out to search there when they had just found multiple bodies. they're not combing brush during sidewalk construction, i guarantee it.
plus the bodies were dumped on the bay side
The bodies were between the far side of the greenline and the road, so the if they were there after Sandy, they would of been found unless the MO was changed and he put them further from the road.
>i thought cops were tough guys
What was that elementary school again where they all huddled up scared and crying to each other afraid to intervene while they listened to the shooter take out more and more children? They’re soft nancies anymore since they got hamstrung by Derek chauvin
Also if I were am SK and the investigators found my hiding spot, I’d have to change things up. I don’t doubt there are more bodies buried in the area than but I suspect they’d be from before the find
hahahaha what a great point 😂
idk, if my true crime special interest has taught me anything, it's that some serial killers like to taunt the police. rex seems like the type, per his google searches.
I think maybe he’s too self preserved to taunt the police, but sisters of his victims that could never find him, sure. He’s still in the pretending he’s innocent stage of accepting his arrest
I remember when I first heard about Rex using the phone to contact the family-reminded me of ear/ons crank calling a victims home phone years later . So depraved
Yep..disgusting…And SCPD called off the search because “it was cold out” bet Mid Dec 2010 and March 2011. I heard an interview w a NYC missing persons det. That said “Sorry we would not have stopped because of cold weather. That’s ridiculous!” Come on!
The difference between NYC and that area of LI tho, there’s frozen marshes, areas that were impassable in summer, now half frozen with mud muck, dead branches, etc. They had to bring in machines that looked like tanks on bottom with a flatbed with a railing on top. I’m sure there’s still vids up because it was on the news all the time
The real delay here was Burke, not the weather. Burke could have had them out looking when these girls went missing, each in way warmer months. They only finally started looking because it was pretty obvious someone was killing sex workers and they couldn’t get people and journalists to stop bothering them about it.
This is a good point! We know that some of the dismembered victims still have body parts missing - which I am sure were placed somewhere.
Even the search of Manorville is way late after finding bodies there.
Areas like this should be training grounds for K9 cadaver dogs.
They can cover smaller areas over a period of time.
It’s hard to believe that Rex started his spree at such a late age.
Many believe that the other victims do not fit his MO - yet look at Steve Lorenzo (Florida) his first victim was 12/20 and he and his accomplice allegedly dismembered the victim (body never found as they dumped the parts in various dumpsters around Tampa) the second victim was the very next night 12/21 and he was not dismembered. That’s going back something like 20 years ago when it happened but the trial was only recently over.
I do believe that it was Rex’s domain & territory - he just had to bring part of them where he could drive by each day. I still hope that “Peaches & her toddler” are named and the same for “Asian doe”
Law enforcement said they arrested Rex when they did because he was buying burner phones etc. and had been observing for something like a year. Which leads me to believe he didn’t stop, he was still on the prowl but they had only just found out about him. So what did he get up from 2010?
When I look at how many unsolved murders there are my heart sinks and I feel awful for the victims and family.
We don’t remember victim names as much as we do the serial killer. Which is sad. I know Shannan Gilbert will be remembered and most of these victims because their families were such passionate advocates. Just like Gabby Petito.
I still feel that Shannan didn’t just die of natural causes:
1. She said someone was trying to kill her (and she died)
2. If she was that drugged how did she make it as far as she did?
3. She was on the phone for 23 minutes with 911 - (maybe longer because I am not totally convinced that we heard the entire call)
4. The Hackett story is suspect- no matter how much gaslighting about him being a busy body.
5. Her driver who was meant to be her protector left her - in an isolated place.
6. She is found dead in an area not far from 10 other bodies
7. It took far too long to find Shannan and yet she was right there all along - enough time to destroy evidence
All that is way too much to be a coincidence.
Law enforcement corruption failed all the victims.
Maybe there needs to be a law/bill passed regarding serial murders. That more than one law enforcement agency has to automatically be involved.
If I look at the Wilder case which started in Florida - I think they waited too long to make it public. So many young women died.
#1 #1 #1 !! She called 911 for help cause "they" were trying to kill her and she ends up dead. Insane she is not found! #7 ...your post has so many good points!
How did they NOT find her? For so long 18 months or something
It’s shoddy police work - corruption at the top - these victims need our focus in them or they will not get justice
You’d want brush pants and carhart. Neoprene and leather would get destroyed. You’d need a machete or something powered to clear your way through it if it’s that dense. Definitely want to hire some beagles too.
Dude, it is rough over there. I use to surf this spot called hemlocks not far from there and the brush is all over. You dont wanna go in there the ticks are real bad plus poison ivy used as borders that went all over the island. Mosquitoes tend to congregate there too. But yea it should totally be searched because it is the best place to hide a body.
I was a canine handler in a New York agency and the only time we went out to ocean parkway was for training exercises with the dogs. I was in high school during 2010 2011 and often took “beach runs” down to tobay/gilgo and would always wander the bay side during sunsets. To think of how many times I’ve been there, alone or with a few other girls, while Rex could have possibly been there, or victims, is alarming. Also- I went to high school down the block from Rex’s Massapequa home. The house was always creepy. When his headshot was circling in 2011, I immediately knew he was the guy. It’s just all over a sickening thing filled with creepy variables that make perfect sense. You’re right.
Yes. I dove DEEP into possible suspects and then again when the documentary came out a few years ago. He was mentioned on Long Island for years. Maybe it’s because I was located so close to him, being from the same area of massapequa. Idk. But I’m going to try to link the headshot he used for his architecture firm. [Rex headshot](https://images.app.goo.gl/yvyixdqVies4eiqbA)
Can I ask it differently? Castello's remains were found roughly 3 mo after her disappearance. Did RH's campaign of serial murder end then? Or did it continue with him using a different stretch of Ocean Pkwy to dispose of his victims? Or a totally unrelated spot?
I think thats a good question and that once they started finding remains in that area, he started looking for/found another place to dispose of his victims. I 100% believe there are more victims, but to your point, I think he found a different place to get rid of any remains. Edited for much needed clarity.
Well, there’s Tanya Rush, and Natasha Jugo, and half a dozen males…
Natasha Jugo was almost certainly an unrelated suicide. The others, not sure.
Respectfully disagree.
I am interested to hear why. No evidence of trauma or of foul play, apparently. Strange coincidence that someone would commit suicide there. Why do you think Rex/somebody murdered her?
There are many reasons to believe her death is not a suicide: - why drive from her home in Queens all the way to Ocean Parkway to drown yourself when there are plenty of accessible waterways minutes from your home. - she was involved in sex work - Natasha’s Mom said that Natasha felt she was being stalked leading up to her “death” - the instantaneous narrative created by SCPD when her body was found 3 months later in virtually the same location she was alleged to have entered the water and with relatively little decomp. - further narrative that was was bipolar - further narrative from Newsday (basically controlled by Spota/Burke at that time) that Natasha went in AND came back on the ocean side of ocean parkway…astronomically improbable based on ocean currents. - another (west)Gilgo beach ocean parkway victim - in a recent FOIA request, a picture (redacted) of her body includes (apparently) yellow rope connected to her body (possibly indicating being bound) At the end of the day, it is possible she committed suicide but IMHO and Occam’s Razor, unlikely.
I always had a hard time believing she committed suicide. Like you said, it's possible, but imho improbable.
Literally not one single thing you said is evidence of a crime.
If it were evidence there would have been charges would you agree? I’ll also point your attention to the fact that I said rather clearly that this was IMHO which means “in my humble opinion”.
It means in my honest opinion, but ok. No I do not agree there would be charges just if there was evidence of a crime, that is nonsensical. There are millons of crimes that have evidence a crime was committed without charges being brought against someone. Do you really believe that any time there is evidence a crime was committed they immediately charge someone? You laid out points, as though they were evidence and none of them are evidence or even a factual statement other than to call her a victim, but once again no evidence of that at all. Why are people constantly trying to make people that just died out of bad luck or their own doings to be victims. Sometimes shit just doesn't go peoples way, and they die. It doesn't make them a bad person. Someone loved every single one of them. It sucks, but let the families get over it and stop trying to sensationalize their deaths, I promise you it hurts more in the long run than helps.
“Let the Familes get over it”… that’s all you needed to say..I hope you have a day you deserve.
When Sandy came through in '12, she came roaring in from the South. It's fair to say that unless the victims were killed/disposed of after 2012 most everything was washed away. Jmho.
well all the bodies were dumped on the bay side. idk the extent of the damage, i didn't live here at the time, but obviously there might be a cooling off period where he might not have continued dumping bodies after the search/possibly the hurricane. but once he saw that they stopped searching and things settled down, i could definitely see him returning to use it as a dump site.
The bodies were found on the ocean side of the barrier island right off Ocean Pkwy. When Sandy came through, she washed right over parts of the barrier island. There was so much sand pushed in out there that some of the Pkwy bridges were impassable, and that was on LI itself, not just the barrier islands.
[here's a better quality picture of the dump sites](https://imgur.com/gallery/j2975v1)
I'm sorry, but the bodies weren't found on the Bay side. They were found on the ocean side. The sand you see to the South is the ocean beach. ETA: Your link is broken.
Cop here. The bodies were found on the bay side. I was born and raised just a few blocks away from Rex’s house and I am a former k9 handler.
I respect your position. I personally don't think 20 feet off of OP to North right near Gilgo Beach (an ocean beach) is the Bay side, but that's just me. That said, any updates on what's going on in Manorville !?
[the north part of the barrier island (where the bodies were dumped, NORTH of ocean parkway) is on the BAY side of the island. you can access that side of the island from the bay, not from the ocean. dropped a pin exactly where bodies were dumped. that's why they speculate that he could have a boat and accessed the dumping ground FROM THE BAY.](https://imgur.com/gallery/m1XuobK) hope this helps!
what's with the downvotes? I'm from LI and I would definitely consider from that picture the victims to have been dumped on the "bay side," of the barrier island, at least. Born, raised, still live here, and i've never heard anyone refer to "bay side" as meaning on the main island, towards the bay. That is most certainly the bay side of the barrier island.
You and OP are absolutely correct. Born and raised on LI, Town of Babylon. Surfed Gilgo for years. Definitely bayside. I was early of the opinion that they were possibly brought to the dump site by boat by a clammer (because of the “burlap” clue). Then I saw the map and how close they were to the parkway, thinking why trudge through that thicket to dump them closer to a spot more likely to be discovered.
The dissenter here must not be from LI. You have the main island, which is just “the island,” then you have the bay side and ocean side of the barrier islands.
I'm the dissenter, and I am from LI. I don't consider 20 or so feet off of OP to the N to be the Bay side. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and that's mine. Especially when each of the Gilgo 4 were found near Gilgo Beach, which is an ocean beach. Edited for clarity*
I don't consider the Bay side to mean the main island only.
It doesn't. That's not the Bay side. It's the Ocean side. I'm guessing you've either never been or are new to Long Island. With respect, I don't need your help.
how do you get there from the ocean? you would have to cross a beach and ocean parkway. the ocean is south. the south end of the barrier island is the ocean side. the north is accessible from the bay. what are you getting confused? i literally swim at coast guard cove all the time. in the BAY. on the NORTH side of the barrier island. NORTH of ocean parkway, right next to where the bodies were dumped. do you not know north and south?
Blah blah blah. As an example, if you are driving east (on Ocean Pkwy) with the ocean on your right, there are little crossways that allow you to cross from Eastbound to Westbound. It's not that difficult to grasp. It's also in close proximity to the ocean, not Bay.
holy shit dude, yes you can cross, from the ocean side of the island to the bay side. [purple line is ocean parkway. all bodies were dumped NORTH of ocean parkway. if the ocean is on your right, the bay and the bodies were dumped....ON THE LEFT.](https://imgur.com/gallery/qcnR2oB)
[nope, here's a map of where the bodies were located. all on the bay side.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgo_Beach_serial_killings)
It looks like RH drove east on Ocean Parkway (his house is to the west, correct?) to scope out for witnesses and cops. When he didn't see any he did a U turn, headed west, and dumped the bodies on the side of the westbound road, the north side of Ocean Parkway. If that pattern continues, where would the next logical dump site be west of Costello? Does the earth/road change right there? I'm just wondering where he would dump a body using that pattern after Costello. Thanks
If you're heading Westbound on Ocean parkway, Amber's body was dumped where I think he felt there was enough land to effectively hide it before the parking area for Gilgo Beach begins. I think he didn't want to get too close to the parking field, because IIRC, you can bring dogs onto the beach. I'm completely speculating here. If a body were too close to the last parking spot and a person happened to get out of a car with a dog, it's possible the dog would pick up the scent.
I see that. And I totally think something happened to him while life guarding at that beach, that is significant to his make up.
Where have you seen that Rex worked as a lifeguard at Gilgo Beach? I've seen it [reported](https://nypost.com/2023/07/17/accused-gilgo-beach-serial-killer-rex-heuermann-allegedly-had-just-one-question-for-his-jailers/) that he was a seasonal employee at Jones Beach State Park in the summer of 1981 and from 3/05/82 through 10/24/84. Jones Beach State Park is on the west end of the island, a separate area from Gilgo Beach.
I realized this is where my mistake was. This article mentions his job at Jones Beach and the next sentence is a quote from a lifeguard at Tobay Beach. [https://nypost.com/2023/07/28/punching-bag-rex-heuermann-really-scared-peers-former-classmates/](https://nypost.com/2023/07/28/punching-bag-rex-heuermann-really-scared-peers-former-classmates/)
Oh, I totally could be wrong then. Whatever I read had me thinking he was right there. I see that is several miles away.
How close? Roughly a football field or closer? Just an estimate would be great. Tyvm
the water gets very close to the parkway within a half a football field, Then beyond that, it's about a half a football field to the parking area. I wish we could attach photos to comment posts.
It looks like Coast Guard Cove is about 50 yards away, then on the other side of the cove its about 200 yards to the end of "Cottage Walk" which is a little road that runs parallel to the parkway with homes/cottages and looks like it has a shared entrance with the parking area. I think his connection to Gilgo and the fact that where they were dumped you will be able to see the furthest whats coming behind you, are the keys here. I think the next logical spot would be on the other side of Gilgo Beach at the next little "knuckle" or pullover area(its not a pull over area anymore because of the Green Line, but they even contoured the Green Line to show it. The Gilgo Four were found near one of these pullovers. The bramble looks much thicker on the other side of Gilgo on Google right now in 2024 btw.
The dump location is about 3/4 mile east of the eastern end of the Gilgo parking lot.
thanks. I was trying to figure out from google maps and memory. It's been a very long time since I've even been down to Jones Beach, I moved away in 1988 and haven't been to LI in a couple of years now.
I know where the bodies were found. I grew up there. If you look to the immediate south of the bodies, you'll see the Atlantic Ocean.
You're being obtuse and OP is correct. The bodies were found on the north side of Ocean Parkway along the westbound lanes, aka the bay side of the barrier Island. Yes if you look due south, theres the Atlantic but, duh, it's a barrier Island.
I'm not being anything I asked OP to stop talking to me. I was not rude or condescending, unlike OP, was to me. I simply don't agree with OP, but I don't feel like having a reddit pissing contest with imgur links.
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You literally did this to op when they were explaining something to you that you were wrong about. Just helping you understand how op felt when you did that to them.
What you don't get is I don't care. React in a flurry of downvotes. Who cares!? I was born at Good Sam and grew up out there. To me, they were found on the ocean side. It's that simple. Other people can have other opinions, and that's fine. This isn't about being right. The desire to crush people who don't agree is a cringe worthy show of insecurity. If it makes you feel better, have at it. I simply don't care.
You might have grown up there, but you obviously skipped geography.
Nope, I didn't. And what's your point other than to harrass me? If you want to consider 20 or so feet off of Ocean Parkwy to the N to be the bay side, that's your prerogative. I don't. Especially when each of the Gilgo 4 were found near Gilgo Beach, which is an ocean beach. Do me favor, please stop talking to me. Edited for clarity ***
Butting in here. I can’t help but ask, If that is the bay side, can I ask which is the ocean side?
I personally think it's the ocean side.
Which side of the barrier island, north or south?
No your wrong the bodies were on the bay side. If you walk through the bramble of where the victims were found you’re walking into the bay. You need to cross 2 lanes of roadway, a median (also filled with shrubbery), and then another two lanes of roadway to be on the beach aka the ocean side. Like it’s ok to be wrong there’s irrefutable proof proving you wrong. I grew up and still live 7 min from where the victims were found. Take the loss.
It’s a very narrow strip. I don’t think bay-side v. ocean side matters. The water probably flooded over the road.
Exactly, plus there is a greenway where the bodies would be now.
I agree, and I think the ocean met the Bay.
I don't agree.
Sandy washed over the entire barrier island and surged a considerable distance inland on the mainland too. If there were more bodies there, it's unlikely they will be found.
In addition to Superstorm Sandy stripping the shoreline along Ocean Parkway, [the state also completed a bike path in 2021](https://www.liherald.com/elmont/stories/ocean-parkway-bike-paths-10-mile-extension-is-open-three-months-early,131036) after many years of construction -- which means the authorities have probably gone over that stretch of land with a fine toothed comb.
i don't think so. the bramble is so difficult to navigate, i just know they cut down exactly what they needed to and paved it over and were done with it. if they were present during construction, it would have been noticed. they dragged their feet and twiddled their thumbs for 4 months just getting people out to search there when they had just found multiple bodies. they're not combing brush during sidewalk construction, i guarantee it. plus the bodies were dumped on the bay side
The bike path is on the bay side of ocean parkway
i know! i was just saying the stripped shoreline is on the ocean side, not the bay/bodies/bike path side
Sorry - misunderstood
no worries!
The bodies were between the far side of the greenline and the road, so the if they were there after Sandy, they would of been found unless the MO was changed and he put them further from the road.
They were barely in the bramble, right where the greenway currently sits.
Hurricane Sandy probably destroyed / buried any evidence.
I think Gilgo was swept thoroughly and they know it, but Manorville wasn’t and that’s why they’ve been there
>i thought cops were tough guys What was that elementary school again where they all huddled up scared and crying to each other afraid to intervene while they listened to the shooter take out more and more children? They’re soft nancies anymore since they got hamstrung by Derek chauvin Also if I were am SK and the investigators found my hiding spot, I’d have to change things up. I don’t doubt there are more bodies buried in the area than but I suspect they’d be from before the find
They did intervene, they stopped parents from going in to try to save their children.
I can’t even wrap my head around that one! I couldn’t watch anything on that anymore because it made me physically ill!!
That was the tragedy in Uvlade, Texas.
Fucking disgusted
hahahaha what a great point 😂 idk, if my true crime special interest has taught me anything, it's that some serial killers like to taunt the police. rex seems like the type, per his google searches.
I think maybe he’s too self preserved to taunt the police, but sisters of his victims that could never find him, sure. He’s still in the pretending he’s innocent stage of accepting his arrest I remember when I first heard about Rex using the phone to contact the family-reminded me of ear/ons crank calling a victims home phone years later . So depraved
That's damage that lasts your whole life. I cannot imagine having that in my head.
Yep..disgusting…And SCPD called off the search because “it was cold out” bet Mid Dec 2010 and March 2011. I heard an interview w a NYC missing persons det. That said “Sorry we would not have stopped because of cold weather. That’s ridiculous!” Come on!
The difference between NYC and that area of LI tho, there’s frozen marshes, areas that were impassable in summer, now half frozen with mud muck, dead branches, etc. They had to bring in machines that looked like tanks on bottom with a flatbed with a railing on top. I’m sure there’s still vids up because it was on the news all the time The real delay here was Burke, not the weather. Burke could have had them out looking when these girls went missing, each in way warmer months. They only finally started looking because it was pretty obvious someone was killing sex workers and they couldn’t get people and journalists to stop bothering them about it.
What about all the bodies they found in The East river over the years in the winter in the strongest currents ever?
Yeah, Uvalde.
This is a good point! We know that some of the dismembered victims still have body parts missing - which I am sure were placed somewhere. Even the search of Manorville is way late after finding bodies there. Areas like this should be training grounds for K9 cadaver dogs. They can cover smaller areas over a period of time. It’s hard to believe that Rex started his spree at such a late age. Many believe that the other victims do not fit his MO - yet look at Steve Lorenzo (Florida) his first victim was 12/20 and he and his accomplice allegedly dismembered the victim (body never found as they dumped the parts in various dumpsters around Tampa) the second victim was the very next night 12/21 and he was not dismembered. That’s going back something like 20 years ago when it happened but the trial was only recently over. I do believe that it was Rex’s domain & territory - he just had to bring part of them where he could drive by each day. I still hope that “Peaches & her toddler” are named and the same for “Asian doe” Law enforcement said they arrested Rex when they did because he was buying burner phones etc. and had been observing for something like a year. Which leads me to believe he didn’t stop, he was still on the prowl but they had only just found out about him. So what did he get up from 2010? When I look at how many unsolved murders there are my heart sinks and I feel awful for the victims and family. We don’t remember victim names as much as we do the serial killer. Which is sad. I know Shannan Gilbert will be remembered and most of these victims because their families were such passionate advocates. Just like Gabby Petito. I still feel that Shannan didn’t just die of natural causes: 1. She said someone was trying to kill her (and she died) 2. If she was that drugged how did she make it as far as she did? 3. She was on the phone for 23 minutes with 911 - (maybe longer because I am not totally convinced that we heard the entire call) 4. The Hackett story is suspect- no matter how much gaslighting about him being a busy body. 5. Her driver who was meant to be her protector left her - in an isolated place. 6. She is found dead in an area not far from 10 other bodies 7. It took far too long to find Shannan and yet she was right there all along - enough time to destroy evidence All that is way too much to be a coincidence. Law enforcement corruption failed all the victims. Maybe there needs to be a law/bill passed regarding serial murders. That more than one law enforcement agency has to automatically be involved. If I look at the Wilder case which started in Florida - I think they waited too long to make it public. So many young women died.
#1 #1 #1 !! She called 911 for help cause "they" were trying to kill her and she ends up dead. Insane she is not found! #7 ...your post has so many good points!
How did they NOT find her? For so long 18 months or something It’s shoddy police work - corruption at the top - these victims need our focus in them or they will not get justice
It's suspicious Shannan was found last. Had she been found earlier, would some of the bodies have been left undiscovered?
That's an interesting question. They would have never bothered searching the other side.
You’d want brush pants and carhart. Neoprene and leather would get destroyed. You’d need a machete or something powered to clear your way through it if it’s that dense. Definitely want to hire some beagles too.
Or a wildfire at this point. Anything not bone or metal would be gone by now
Isn’t one of the theories about why Rex stopped was that he was getting too old to handle the cleanup and the body disposal?
Dude, it is rough over there. I use to surf this spot called hemlocks not far from there and the brush is all over. You dont wanna go in there the ticks are real bad plus poison ivy used as borders that went all over the island. Mosquitoes tend to congregate there too. But yea it should totally be searched because it is the best place to hide a body.
Absolutely agree!! They just don’t care because it was sex workers! They re not people to them!
The bodies were within the area that is now a greenway, they weren't way out in the bramble, just inside it.
Ohh for sure
Rex couldn't go far into the bramble..how could there be more undiscovered at that location?
I was a canine handler in a New York agency and the only time we went out to ocean parkway was for training exercises with the dogs. I was in high school during 2010 2011 and often took “beach runs” down to tobay/gilgo and would always wander the bay side during sunsets. To think of how many times I’ve been there, alone or with a few other girls, while Rex could have possibly been there, or victims, is alarming. Also- I went to high school down the block from Rex’s Massapequa home. The house was always creepy. When his headshot was circling in 2011, I immediately knew he was the guy. It’s just all over a sickening thing filled with creepy variables that make perfect sense. You’re right.
Headshot!?
Yes. I dove DEEP into possible suspects and then again when the documentary came out a few years ago. He was mentioned on Long Island for years. Maybe it’s because I was located so close to him, being from the same area of massapequa. Idk. But I’m going to try to link the headshot he used for his architecture firm. [Rex headshot](https://images.app.goo.gl/yvyixdqVies4eiqbA)