[Looks like](https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1809891917435416636) we're signing Salford (and ex-Leeds) keeper Alex Cairns, likely to be third choice
Remember he played a stormed against us in the cup
Would help with homegrown players if we go up
[Leeds United goalkeeper Kristoffer Klaesson expected to join Polish club Raków Częstochowa on permanent deal. ](https://x.com/apopey/status/1809539331381481938)
🚨Leeds United is currently demanding around €10-12m for a sale of Maximilian #Wöber!
This is too much for @borussia. M‘gladbach would like to keep Wöber but could only do so with another loan. The 26 y/o central defender is informed about that.
The clear trend is that Wöber will leave Leeds United. Contract valid until 2027.
@SkySportDE 🇦🇹
https://x.com/Plettigoal/status/1809508314172080387?t=OEFxIm3F1icEmKG_94Uw9g&s=19
I hope the club stands firm and keep the price tag, he had a decent Euros, so no reason for these cheap fucks to want us to low the asking price, fuck off if they want to take advantage again with loans. Pay up.
I've been watching Copa America and there are a few Canadians who I think would do well at Leeds, would be great signings that wouldn't break the bank.
Alistair Johnston (Celtic), aggressive right back not afraid of putting in a hard tackle, fights hard, decent going forward, has a long throw. Jacob Shaffelburg (Nashville SC), fearless, pacey and direct, talented winger who scares defenders. Liam Millar (FC Basel, on loan at Preston last season), also talented winger with tricks up his sleeve, who we saw tear up the league last season and humble Archie Gray, one of the bright spots at Preston.
I assume we sell Cry, and Anthony is gone, so could use a quality winger.
We are in deep shit because apparently many of our key players (or their agents) are talking with other clubs about leaving: Summerville, Gnonto, Georgi, Pascal, Spiderboy, Kamara.
We need a chill summer not one where we lose Coops (yes he’s important!) and Archie, and then chunks of the spine jump ship.
Honestly wild how little loyalty they have guven that if they all stayed we are nearly a lock for pissing the league and going up as Champions.
Don’t stress until something concrete is reported by a good source.
As for rumours about Clubs expressing interest or agreeing personal terms, this kind of thing happens every window and probably more than we find out about. Especially as we are a Championship Club so European / lower PL Clubs will be looking for a good deal.
We don’t have to sell anybody. If a player pushes for an exit or hands in a request, do we even want that player around in an important season?
https://preview.redd.it/c3kz4cqalpad1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=084d510d1db5525dfe57945763e3ba2d28648eea
Love this and suggests it’s all rumours / offers that are being rejected at the minute.
You’re jumping to loads of conclusions here
It’s just as likely buying clubs are putting these stories out to unsettle the player. Agents trying to drum up moves doesn’t mean the player wants to move they all do that to drum up interest in their client.
Even if they all want to go, which is unlikely, the club isn’t going to sell the entire first team in one window
Hold your rage til the end of the window, so far the activity we have done has almost always come out the blue and mostly been good
Glen Kamara to leave?
From Popey:
“Ouest-France reporting today that Glen Kamara “already has an agreement” with Stade Rennais who want a box to box midfielder.
BUT crucially no deal agreed with Leeds United who are understood to want to keep the Finland international.”
https://x.com/apopey/status/1809193794429960697?s=46
[Charlie Cresswell expected to fly back to France this weekend and complete a move to Toulouse. Clubs had already agreed, should be straightforward to complete now.](https://x.com/GrahamSmyth/status/1809171524043030949)
Sky reporting that Shack is going to Sheffield United on a free. Not sure if this is old news or not but makes you think. To quote Matt Le Tiss
Shack not good enough for us but good enough for Sheff United. Rumours of Drameh joining Newcastle on a free too.
Are we missing a trick?. Past performances would suggest we are right to get rid 👍🏽. And I kind of think we are right to get rid.
What do we think?.
All I see is rumors about us selling selling and selling. Turning profit is all good but we have to make sure we have a team, the season start is just around the corner and we haven't signed any *new* players.
Not being funny but if we don’t have adequate cover at RB / LB / LCB / RCB and start putting square pegs in round holes then that doesn’t sound like “not fucking around with the playoffs again”.
Can’t allow Ampadu to have to play CB. No Gray in midfield / RB. Aaronson might turn out to be garbage in the Championship so need an O’Hare.
Incoming will Aaronson and Kristensen and we'll like it. Tbf if we only sell one or two more that wouldn't be terrible the squad we have should manage.
Euros are on, our owners don’t like to leak transfer news, guessing any leaks are coming from agents/other clubs involved, likely incoming transfer news will be just before players sign
[GFFN](https://x.com/LUFCFANZ0NE/status/1808813126139236772) saying Glen Kamara is close to joining Rennes
Was only yesterday afternoon that Graham Smyth said Leeds didn't intend to sell him, and that comes after Smyth saying there had been no enquiries for Archie Gray an hour before Tottenham agreed a deal, so wouldn't make a great week
Been a lot of slagging Graham off (not saying that’s what you were doing btw ZD) but people need to remember he’s the YEP correspondent so effectively faithfully reporting what the club is telling him
If we are negotiating with Stade Rennais it makes total sense the club would be saying that - because they aren’t going to say they don’t want him anymore while presumably trying to drive his price up
On his day Kamara was a beast and no doubt wouldn't look out of place in a mid-top half prem team - unfortunately that day was 1 in 5.
This deal only makes sense if :-
1. We make profit
2. We sign someone who offers the same physicality as Kamara but has a goal threat from midfield.
Edit: I am worried about the amount of change in our squad. Consistency is undervalued and always seemed like Kamara was well liked amongst the group. And having said that is 2-3m profit really going to swing the needle in the grand scheme.
Selling him makes a lot of sense to me
I don’t think he was that good last season and when we were playing badly he was never able to take a game by the neck like Ampadu or Gruev can
Really don’t think Farke’s system suits him. He’s a natural 8 who excels and taking the ball in tight spaces and moving it around under pressure. But in Farke’s system he needs to be able to make good long passes and press well and find spaces to break and he’s not particularly good at any of those. Paired with Gruev or Ampadu I think the midfield lacks balance
What we really need is either a proper destroyer (that frees up Gruev to find long passes and go clears) or someone more comfortable going forward to help the attack
If this funds that sort of player - it’s a good sale
tbh it seems all things are pointing towards Skipp coming. May be an upgrade but worried about his goal record and it being more of the same
Ampadu should be our destroyer, we need someone to break the lines and/or progress with the ball Box to Box. (Archie would have been perfect lol)
Yeah I’m not convinced by skipp but loads of pros and managers seem to like him. Maybe his game IQ will help.
My issue with relying on Amps in midfield is you we need another very good CB. Love Struijk but he’s struggled with fitness in every season. Can’t rely on him unfortunately
Max Wober if we can forgive and forget lol?
I don't think Struijks injury record is as bad as you make out - certainly nowhere near Firpo, Bamford, Shack levels
He only says Spurs could have a look at him in future it's nothing really. He's hardly saying they are trying to sign him now just that obviously as a good player if he turns out as good as Archie or better then they will obviously be interested.
I’m confused are you agreeing with Graham or calling him a clown?. Sounds like you are a bit confused yourself mate. And you don’t know more than him I’m almost positive 😂
We talking about the same Graham Smyth who told the fans Brentford weren't interest in Gray whilst he was literally doing a medical, that Graham Smyth ye? Or is there another one I need to know about.
Harry is now in talks with a few teams due to how the Archie situation was handled.
But there is still a chance he stays. We will have to wait and see.
I wonder how much (if at all) our transfer strategy will be affected by Charlie Crew i.e could we potentially let one go if Farke thinks he'll breakthrough? We need a goalscoring midfielder regardless but perhaps Kamara could leave if Crew steps up this season.
How good actually is this kid? Generational or just a top prospect? Ive heard some Wales folk say they hope hes the new Ramsay for them, and ive seen him play a couple times at youth level and he looked tidy. I can't really comment much further
I've not done much more analysis of him other than watching the U21s games but he's definitely a good prospect. I think even if he was as good as Gray he might not be as noticed since he doesn't have the special connection that Archie did.
The main difference I see in them is mentality and personality. Crew is definitely talented and has more about him than others at his age, but what he hasn't shown yet that Gray did from very early on is the same presence on the pitch.
In both the U21s and championship Archie was flying into tackles, demanding the ball, not shying away from opposition players trying to get in his face, feeding off the crowd. Always involved. Crew still looks like he hasn't come out of his shell yet, hopefully that'll be this season, but at the moment he definitely comes off like a boy in a group of men.
It’s very interesting about the rumours about atm - very lopsided
There are loads of rumours of further outs:
- Bamford or Piroe
- Meslier
- Firpo
- Kamara (Stade Rennais)
- Rutter (Brighton)
- Summerville (various)
- Gnonto (Everton)
- Wober (BM)
Almost no rumours in other than OHare and that’s tenuous
Fits with the club being very very tight on briefing out to the media. Suggests a lot of this is coming from others that the club is then confirming or knocking down (other than Firpo and Bamford at that came from a source close to the 49ers)
I’d suspect the club has some plans up their sleeve….
I think just retaining the players we have would get me more excited than any players we could sign. If we are going to be selling the above mentioned players then we better have some Raphinha level gems unearthed because there's not many players about at this level that we know of that are on the level of Summerville, Rutter et al.
Anyone know what's going on with Callum O'hare situation? He is free agent and Coventry fans think he is Leeds bound. Do we have any ITK or rumours floating around?
One of the reliable WACCOE ITKs has said that our interest is genuine, plus [this guy](https://x.com/FPLG23/status/1808099519562727699) (who is hit or miss, but does have a couple hits)
9:18AM - [Popey](https://x.com/apopey/status/1808415051956498453) - Leeds United have rejected a bid from Real Betis for defender Diego Llorente.
There has also been initial interest from Stade Rennais for Glen Kamara but #LUFC are not looking to sell the midfielder.
Good. It'll be hard to replace Kamara so we should hold him tight. And for Llorente, I hope its because we have suitors with better offer or because we know Betis could offer more.
Bit torn on Kamara, I think he struggles in a double pivot. He’s not good defensively and offensively is great at knitting together simple passes but it’s quite ineffective in the zone of the pitch he plays in as he can’t really do long passes and isn’t confident going further forward
I wouldn’t be heartbroken if it’s good money
[Nico Schira](https://x.com/NicoSchira/status/1808380385836851526) (usually not super reliable): Glen Kamara is getting closer to Stade Rennais
So much for a stable summer, not that he isn't replaceable, but when importance has been but into this summer being more stable than the last, and our need for senior players, I don't see why we'd needlessly sell a senior player, who can do a good job, for what I doubt will be any real profit
Although saying that, I'm hoping this means that Farke realises we don't necessarily need three centre-mids who provide zero goal threat, and he'll be replaced by someone who takes more than three shots a season
**But** could still be BS, although I'm not sure if I saw Kamara on yesterday's pre-season vid
**EDIT: From what Graham Smyth has since said, it sounds like it is likely bollocks**
I think I'd keep Kamara, Ampadu and Gruev but certainly needs to add some goal threat as you said. Losing Archie / Shacks(If he would ever play there??) gives us slightly less midfield options, and god knows what we end up with at centre half, though I'm hoping we don't get forced into Ampadu there again (as good as he was with Rodon), would be much nicer to have options.
Am I alone in thinking selling Georgi wouldn't have been a bad thing? It's clear as day we need a natural 10, which he isn't. He's not exactly prolific Infront of goal either. Where does that leave him? (On the assumption we buy a 10)
Disagree, I think it would be awful.
First, because for what we paid for him, unless it's an irresistible offer, and when I mean irresistible, I am talking about 50m plus, it would generate almost no profit, one of our best players, we can't let him go for minimum profit.
Most importantly, after we lost Archie, he's the closest thing of fan favorite that we have in this squad, keep him no matter what.
No one would pay his current wages. We massively overpaid for a good but not exceptional player. He’s clearly far too ill disciplined for Premier League teams.
[Beren Cross reporting Leeds rejected a £30m offer for Rutter from Brighton. ](https://x.com/BerenCross/status/1808197271256740213?t=LlMrDgXOItI3bO5e9p_3cA&s=19)
No way in hell he leaves. One of our best players, and we spent a lot of money for him, unless we are seeing an offer that can gives us a huge profit, any team offering these silly fees can fuck off.
Thats the one thing that will keep him here IMO. Archie and Cre is pretty much all profit. Georgi was our record signing, so we're not as keen to sell.
Fuck off Brighton - make it 65 and now we are talking. People have spent years horrendously overpaying for your players time to share the wealth
If Rutter and Archie leave in the same window I’m on suicide watch
I think it's similar to Archie where no amount of money will really feel worth it - he brings so much enjoyment to watching Leeds play. To think he might be even better this season is getting me excited already haha
Supposedly rejected 25m from Dortmund and Lyon last season too. I wonder what the club see his selling price at, especially now with the Gray sale clearing some PSR room.
He was legitimately as bad at Celtic as Duffy was, we shouldn't be going near him. I'd imagine it's bollocks anyway considering that's an area we've decent depth in now.
O’Hare has officially left Cov now. Is there any concrete link to us other than Paul Robinson? Even the Paul Robinson story is just him saying oh yeah I reckon he’s the kind of player Leeds want.
Now we’ve brought some funds in, start making moves for Latte Lath kthnx. Him and O’Hare in would be decent signings for Champo football, and add decent depth in areas we need some more.
(Obviously also sign at least one RB & LB, yeah?)
I heavily doubt this. I just can't see PSG looking to buy someone like Summerville to replace Kylian Mbappe, makes no sense.
We are talking about a club that left Xavi Simmons go because he didn't get any game time. He might be on their watch list for the future but I'd be extremely surprised if they decided to go for him this summer. If they do we should ask for a stupid amount of money, they have more than enough of it.
No point on even dreaming of the possibility Summerville stays.
As I said here multiple times, the offers will come, and he will accept 100%.
What our board needs to do is stay firm and not selling him for chips, pay the valuation or fuck off.
Had already resigned myself to him leaving so this isn't as upsetting as Archie leaving, just hope we get lots of money for him and can get a good replacement in! Saw rumours about Anthony coming back, not inspired by that, didn't see much from him when he played
He has played LB before! He looks to be really good at tackling & intercepting but quite poor in the air, which is a bit of a shame considering how tall he is.
[This article](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13588041/Tottenham-closing-30m-signing-Leeds-starlet-Archie-Gray-Joe-Rodon-heading-way-separate-10m-deal.html) from Simon Jones, who has wrote 49ers puff pieces and Leeds news in the past (so I would be surprised if he wasn't used to leak certain info), says that Leeds expect to sell Firpo and one of Bamford and Piroe
You'd expect that to be Bamford out of the two, given I still think he'll have the higher wages and we'd need to sell Piroe for £10m+ to break even on FFP (which we wouldn't get this summer)
Honestly I’d be sad to see both go but if their wages are as high as sometimes reported neither anything close to worth it. Firpo has been brilliant this year but absolutely shite before that. I do think we could replace him for not that much money.
Pat is a Leeds icon, but you can’t spend that much money on a player made of biscuits
>You'd expect that to be Bamford out of the two, given I still think he'll have the higher wages
Sargent rumour fits in with that given they're a similar profile of player.
Losing Firpo would low-key be a massive loss in terms of attacking. We really need to sort out some good attacking fullbacks especially with the prospect of Gnonto and Summerville leaving.
Leeds looking at Sargent at Norwich according to caught offside
Probably Norwich’s best player last season
Knows farke
16 goals in 28 is a good return
I think we played best when bamford was up top and he’s a similar mold
This is a dreadful take. He is literally one of the best strikers in the championship and walks into our team if we signed him. Dont think he is premier league level yet but we would only have to worry about that when we get there
I promise you if he signs he is our starting striker. He wouldnt be my favourite choice of striker to sign but he is easily better than any other we have
Either Bamford is out of the picture or Joseph is not going to get a chance if we're buying another attacker
Also the links to US Soccer just won't fucking die lol
Okay, it's talkSPORTS, but:
Understand Joe Rodon is set to join [#LUFC](https://x.com/hashtag/LUFC?src=hashtag_click) as part of Archie Gray negotiations. Gray has already completed his medical with [#THFC](https://x.com/hashtag/THFC?src=hashtag_click)
[https://x.com/alex\_crook/status/1807711428956008856](https://x.com/alex_crook/status/1807711428956008856)
Graham Smyth:
Joe Rodon is part of the talks between Leeds United and Spurs. A separate deal but Rodon would be coming back permanently. Things are quite far down the line now in terms of negotations. Fee for Archie Gray in same ballpark as the Brenford deal (£40m)
[https://x.com/GrahamSmyth/status/1807716671852835190](https://x.com/GrahamSmyth/status/1807716671852835190)
If the outcome of this summer is we can afford to keep Summerville and we get Rodon and stay compliant that probably is an ok outcome with Archie leaving
[Talks still progressing with Tottenham for Archie](https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1807687389516599795) (Fabrizio)
I think as long as some documentation was submitted before the FFP deadline (which I assume would've been), it still counts towards the previous FFP window
I would think that’s true.. maybe some signed MOU or whatever between the parties.. I think in accounting terms you can also book it like that as well to hit the P&L in June
Didn't realise that's how it works. If we're desperate for a FFP sale surely Spurs have us over a barrel if they're the only one with documentation in before the deadline.
Hopefully Rodon coming back is true.
[Tottenham received verbal offer from Ipswich for Joe Rodon.](https://x.com/AlasdairGold/status/1807523005813129529)
Not having Rodon involved in the Gray deal is a bummer, not even a gentleman’s agreement as well...
We don't know what Tottenham's offer is full stop atm so who knows, and if there was a gentleman's agreement for them to sell Rodon to us in return, I don't think it would necessarily be reported like that
Relegate the club, sell all the players, and let's just forget everything that's happened and start again like it's 2007 lol.
The whole journey from -15 to the premier league with Bielsa has basically been eroded already.
Honestly shocking from the 49ers. They just pissed away all the trust we had in them. Fuck them.
They should have sold Gnonto last summer. Fucking bastards.
All the rumours is that the gray family are pissed off with this situation, might not be true but all the rumours have been spot on so far. So doesn’t sound like Harry will be here for long
I wouldn't be surprised if the relationship with the Grays is tainted after this, and he looks to consider his options elsewhere. We're in the position where we need to raise funds, which I totally understand, but money is just one aspect of football for us as fans and for the rare instances where players come through the ranks and feel a fondness for the club.
So we flopped in the playoff final with a manager who struggles with subs and now we're selling our best youth player for 20 years? God i hate this club sometimes
It's done.
35m to Brentford, medicals and everything in place. What a fucking joke!
[https://x.com/David\_Ornstein/status/1807075412905750727](https://x.com/David_Ornstein/status/1807075412905750727)
Graham now saying the club have told him about an enquiry from Brentford
I’d assume that change in tune means their aware of the public leak and change what they tell the press
https://x.com/grahamsmyth/status/1807070479045320889?s=46
[Charlie Creswell, set to be sold to Ligue 1 side Toulouse, for £3.8m.](https://x.com/apopey/status/1807050454011990379?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1807050454011990379%7Ctwgr%5E8be6bd644686856011d92a4a399a6ded15e6c002%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.waccoe.com%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fapopey%2Fstatus%2F1807050454011990379%3Fs%3D4626t%3DPAfL6g6GVlAlOjWQMR7WBw)
Cant get English tax on him so price is reduced for that and 30-35 mil is alot to risk for most clubs.
The previously rumoured interested clubs have have either got someone else in (Chelsea have done those PSR swaps with other clubs and got a young winger there and already have tons of them) or were only rumours, Liverpool as far as I am aware arent currently looking for a wide player).
Archie's price is for potential not where his is currently at.
I really don't know. What I know is in England there's a culture that teams love to go after talented English players without any hesitation, Archie is that.
Summerville probably have teams interested, but maybe teams at this moment aren't willing to pay what Leeds values him.
But the discount we are giving by selling Archie now instead of 2 years from now when he will be worth twice as much is way more than the haircut we take by selling Crysencio for £5-10 under his current value.
Eg I’d rather we lost £7 million today than £20 million two years from now.
The main issue is what seems to be the case is we are going to sell Archie because of PSR, and we need to sell until the end of the month. Archie has buyers in place at this moment, the rest of the players do not.
Bets are off on Sky for Gray to Brentford. Brother has also started following them on instagram within the last hour. Waccoe saying Eddie Gray & Archie aren't happy and its against their wishes. Don't want to just be a doomer ofc but could mean Harry more likely to leave for compensation if a big club comes in seeing how we treated Archie after he turned down big clubs to sign his professional contract at Leeds only to be flocked to Brentford as an FFP lever.
No, the player (Archie) is being sold against both his an Eddie's own wishes. They apparently wanted to stay at Leeds for at least another season.
Oh sorry, do you mean no way Archie leaves if he doesn't want to?
For the Archie story (that looks to be legit based on those discussing it on WACCOE), it sounds like we need to raise a decent sum (around £35m) by the end of this FFP period (end of Sunday), and Summerville doesn't have any immediate takers, so Archie is really our only makeweight
Difficult to know what the alternative is, if we assume that is the case
We'll know within 36 hours if that's all bullshit or not
WACCOE is talking a lot about Brentford, seriously if we lose our best academy product over 20 years, who comes from a family with decades of history in this club to fucking Brentford, things won't look good for the 49ers. They will lose a lot of support, and to get it back, they will have to do some incredible miracles, like keeping Summerville and Gnonto, and I don't even know if it would be enough.
Yeah I can remember the shock when it came out that it was Brentford who were signing Jansson, and although Brentford are PL now, Archie has significantly higher ability and infinitely higher potential than Jansson did, so this will be like that multiplied by a thousand
I agree, I don't want to lose Archie, at all, if we lose to a team like Tottenham, and they give us Rodon as part of the deal, I would still be sad, but I'd understand if the price is right.
But Brentford?
They are going to be fine. Not a single club since us 20 years ago has had points deductions affect their future as a club. Points deductions don’t mean shit.
Hahaha no way? They have lost their manager and are set to sell their best players. Read up on this, they are totally hamstrung with FFP from overspending in the prem last time.
They are literally one of the favourites. Check the bookies.
lol bookies had us staying up in 2023 and going up in 2024. Bookies are wrong all the time.
Enzo left because a better club wanted him. Leicester will suffer now cheat later. That’s how it’s done.
Sigh.
I’m not suggesting Leicester have no chance of staying up. And I’m aware bookies are wrong.
I’m saying right now they are in a mess. Their manager left with a new guy who isn’t popular with the fanbase due to being a Forest manager. They have to sell players and currently can’t spend money. They are well above FFP limit.
You said there’s no chance they go down. They are in a mess. Read anything about them currently, the journalists that cover them, the fan base.
There’s a reason they have been labelled favourites right now. Acting like there’s ‘no chance’ is foolish.
Happy to bookmark this.
It's a gamble, if they get points deductions in the Premier League, get relegated again, the EFL is coming for them, they already wanted to go after Leicester this past season. If you get points deduction in the EFL, and you can't spend money because of restrictions, things can get ugly.
Look at what happened to Wigan, Derby, Reading, Bolton to name a few.
I know it is fucked up, I will be very angry at the 49ers if we lose Archie, especially to teams like Brentford because they could've avoided this way prior, but I would be more furious if we end up in League One or something because of FFP and PSR. We've been there.
Leicester isn’t getting relegated. Come on. Thats nonsense. They are a big club that would have stayed up in the PL last year had they been in it. No chance they get relegated this year. Taking the points deduction is ALWAYS worth it. Look at Everton!
Their violations are considered bigger than Everton's and Forest's, so we are looking at a superior points deductions compared to them. They lost their manager, they are going to lose Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall and potentially more players because they need to sell, and I believe the level of competition at the bottle of the table will be much better compared to how it went this past season.
No I'm arguing we don't sell Archie - i don't care if we sell Summerville or Gnonto or Meslier or Gruev or Cresswell or Greenwood or Gelhardt or Piroe or James etcetc...
Gray is different, it's more than just selling another star player
Problem is, this whole rumor is based on the fact we need to sell by the end of the month, and Summerville, Gnonto, Meslier and the others don't have a buyer in place at this moment, and looks like Archie has.
[Looks like](https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1809891917435416636) we're signing Salford (and ex-Leeds) keeper Alex Cairns, likely to be third choice Remember he played a stormed against us in the cup Would help with homegrown players if we go up
If Archie going means we can make signings like this then it was worth it.
[Leeds United goalkeeper Kristoffer Klaesson expected to join Polish club Raków Częstochowa on permanent deal. ](https://x.com/apopey/status/1809539331381481938)
🚨Leeds United is currently demanding around €10-12m for a sale of Maximilian #Wöber! This is too much for @borussia. M‘gladbach would like to keep Wöber but could only do so with another loan. The 26 y/o central defender is informed about that. The clear trend is that Wöber will leave Leeds United. Contract valid until 2027. @SkySportDE 🇦🇹 https://x.com/Plettigoal/status/1809508314172080387?t=OEFxIm3F1icEmKG_94Uw9g&s=19 I hope the club stands firm and keep the price tag, he had a decent Euros, so no reason for these cheap fucks to want us to low the asking price, fuck off if they want to take advantage again with loans. Pay up.
Seems cheap, would like him back for us this season
Presume that’s the break even cost for PSR
I've been watching Copa America and there are a few Canadians who I think would do well at Leeds, would be great signings that wouldn't break the bank. Alistair Johnston (Celtic), aggressive right back not afraid of putting in a hard tackle, fights hard, decent going forward, has a long throw. Jacob Shaffelburg (Nashville SC), fearless, pacey and direct, talented winger who scares defenders. Liam Millar (FC Basel, on loan at Preston last season), also talented winger with tricks up his sleeve, who we saw tear up the league last season and humble Archie Gray, one of the bright spots at Preston. I assume we sell Cry, and Anthony is gone, so could use a quality winger.
Bring in Johnson and Millar.
If some hated Aaronson for how frail he was, then they’ll have a heart attack at Shaffelburg
None of them are good enough
I don't know about you but replacing Cry with any one of those three does not scream AUTO's
It’s obvious we are going to do a trade deal Cry for Salah.
Greenwood to PNE!
Mad if that’s true. He’s a talent.
We are in deep shit because apparently many of our key players (or their agents) are talking with other clubs about leaving: Summerville, Gnonto, Georgi, Pascal, Spiderboy, Kamara. We need a chill summer not one where we lose Coops (yes he’s important!) and Archie, and then chunks of the spine jump ship. Honestly wild how little loyalty they have guven that if they all stayed we are nearly a lock for pissing the league and going up as Champions.
Not that wild how little loyalty they have. The club holds no more loyalty to its players when it's selling Archie when he wants to stay
Don’t stress until something concrete is reported by a good source. As for rumours about Clubs expressing interest or agreeing personal terms, this kind of thing happens every window and probably more than we find out about. Especially as we are a Championship Club so European / lower PL Clubs will be looking for a good deal. We don’t have to sell anybody. If a player pushes for an exit or hands in a request, do we even want that player around in an important season?
https://preview.redd.it/c3kz4cqalpad1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=084d510d1db5525dfe57945763e3ba2d28648eea Love this and suggests it’s all rumours / offers that are being rejected at the minute.
Simply do not sell them. We don’t have to if we do not want to.
None of this has happened so like why get mad on rumours
You’re jumping to loads of conclusions here It’s just as likely buying clubs are putting these stories out to unsettle the player. Agents trying to drum up moves doesn’t mean the player wants to move they all do that to drum up interest in their client. Even if they all want to go, which is unlikely, the club isn’t going to sell the entire first team in one window Hold your rage til the end of the window, so far the activity we have done has almost always come out the blue and mostly been good
Glen Kamara to leave? From Popey: “Ouest-France reporting today that Glen Kamara “already has an agreement” with Stade Rennais who want a box to box midfielder. BUT crucially no deal agreed with Leeds United who are understood to want to keep the Finland international.” https://x.com/apopey/status/1809193794429960697?s=46
Torino want struijk according to di marzio
LUFCFanzone posted it, can't find it anywhere else... certainly not on his twitter, unless anyone has found a source??
Torino have no money, not a chance lol
No way we sell Struijk
[Charlie Cresswell expected to fly back to France this weekend and complete a move to Toulouse. Clubs had already agreed, should be straightforward to complete now.](https://x.com/GrahamSmyth/status/1809171524043030949)
Hasn’t he already done this once!?
Sky reporting that Shack is going to Sheffield United on a free. Not sure if this is old news or not but makes you think. To quote Matt Le Tiss Shack not good enough for us but good enough for Sheff United. Rumours of Drameh joining Newcastle on a free too. Are we missing a trick?. Past performances would suggest we are right to get rid 👍🏽. And I kind of think we are right to get rid. What do we think?.
Are the rumours of Drameh signing for Newcastle in the room with us right now?
All I see is rumors about us selling selling and selling. Turning profit is all good but we have to make sure we have a team, the season start is just around the corner and we haven't signed any *new* players.
Not being funny but if we don’t have adequate cover at RB / LB / LCB / RCB and start putting square pegs in round holes then that doesn’t sound like “not fucking around with the playoffs again”. Can’t allow Ampadu to have to play CB. No Gray in midfield / RB. Aaronson might turn out to be garbage in the Championship so need an O’Hare.
Don't expect many incomings. There will be some but not as many as some will hope.
Incoming will Aaronson and Kristensen and we'll like it. Tbf if we only sell one or two more that wouldn't be terrible the squad we have should manage.
Charlie Crew will probably get some minutes this season as well.
Hopefully this will be Archie Gray 2.0
Euros are on, our owners don’t like to leak transfer news, guessing any leaks are coming from agents/other clubs involved, likely incoming transfer news will be just before players sign
I agree, I think what happened to Max Aarons last summer really pissed them off, so, we will see even less leaks.
[GFFN](https://x.com/LUFCFANZ0NE/status/1808813126139236772) saying Glen Kamara is close to joining Rennes Was only yesterday afternoon that Graham Smyth said Leeds didn't intend to sell him, and that comes after Smyth saying there had been no enquiries for Archie Gray an hour before Tottenham agreed a deal, so wouldn't make a great week
Been a lot of slagging Graham off (not saying that’s what you were doing btw ZD) but people need to remember he’s the YEP correspondent so effectively faithfully reporting what the club is telling him If we are negotiating with Stade Rennais it makes total sense the club would be saying that - because they aren’t going to say they don’t want him anymore while presumably trying to drive his price up
On his day Kamara was a beast and no doubt wouldn't look out of place in a mid-top half prem team - unfortunately that day was 1 in 5. This deal only makes sense if :- 1. We make profit 2. We sign someone who offers the same physicality as Kamara but has a goal threat from midfield. Edit: I am worried about the amount of change in our squad. Consistency is undervalued and always seemed like Kamara was well liked amongst the group. And having said that is 2-3m profit really going to swing the needle in the grand scheme.
Selling him makes a lot of sense to me I don’t think he was that good last season and when we were playing badly he was never able to take a game by the neck like Ampadu or Gruev can Really don’t think Farke’s system suits him. He’s a natural 8 who excels and taking the ball in tight spaces and moving it around under pressure. But in Farke’s system he needs to be able to make good long passes and press well and find spaces to break and he’s not particularly good at any of those. Paired with Gruev or Ampadu I think the midfield lacks balance What we really need is either a proper destroyer (that frees up Gruev to find long passes and go clears) or someone more comfortable going forward to help the attack If this funds that sort of player - it’s a good sale
tbh it seems all things are pointing towards Skipp coming. May be an upgrade but worried about his goal record and it being more of the same Ampadu should be our destroyer, we need someone to break the lines and/or progress with the ball Box to Box. (Archie would have been perfect lol)
Yeah I’m not convinced by skipp but loads of pros and managers seem to like him. Maybe his game IQ will help. My issue with relying on Amps in midfield is you we need another very good CB. Love Struijk but he’s struggled with fitness in every season. Can’t rely on him unfortunately
Max Wober if we can forgive and forget lol? I don't think Struijks injury record is as bad as you make out - certainly nowhere near Firpo, Bamford, Shack levels
Good point - had basically mentally written him off as an option
Wober would be the best cb in the league. I’d happily have him back.
He’d be up there yeah, I just meant I’d mentally already assumed he won’t be here come August
Alistair Gold (spurs tier 1) suggesting Harry Gray could soon be going to Spurs.
He only says Spurs could have a look at him in future it's nothing really. He's hardly saying they are trying to sign him now just that obviously as a good player if he turns out as good as Archie or better then they will obviously be interested.
They are taking more than a little look into him.
Graham Smyth says there's no suggestion Harry is leaving too so should be fine for bow
Graham Smyth is a total clown unfortunately.
I’m confused are you agreeing with Graham or calling him a clown?. Sounds like you are a bit confused yourself mate. And you don’t know more than him I’m almost positive 😂
We talking about the same Graham Smyth who told the fans Brentford weren't interest in Gray whilst he was literally doing a medical, that Graham Smyth ye? Or is there another one I need to know about.
Guess that's the end of the Grays at Leeds then until Archie or Harry retire, move back to Leeds and have children here.
Archie in his leaving post also said he hoped Harry would play for Leeds soon so I'd imagine hell stay a bit
Harry is now in talks with a few teams due to how the Archie situation was handled. But there is still a chance he stays. We will have to wait and see.
Would totally make sense to keep him at home until he's at least 17/18, it's not like Leeds are Sutton United.
[Team Talk](https://t.co/B8Lu7m7QFv) suggesting Liam Cooper is leaving Leeds
I wonder how much (if at all) our transfer strategy will be affected by Charlie Crew i.e could we potentially let one go if Farke thinks he'll breakthrough? We need a goalscoring midfielder regardless but perhaps Kamara could leave if Crew steps up this season. How good actually is this kid? Generational or just a top prospect? Ive heard some Wales folk say they hope hes the new Ramsay for them, and ive seen him play a couple times at youth level and he looked tidy. I can't really comment much further
I've not done much more analysis of him other than watching the U21s games but he's definitely a good prospect. I think even if he was as good as Gray he might not be as noticed since he doesn't have the special connection that Archie did. The main difference I see in them is mentality and personality. Crew is definitely talented and has more about him than others at his age, but what he hasn't shown yet that Gray did from very early on is the same presence on the pitch. In both the U21s and championship Archie was flying into tackles, demanding the ball, not shying away from opposition players trying to get in his face, feeding off the crowd. Always involved. Crew still looks like he hasn't come out of his shell yet, hopefully that'll be this season, but at the moment he definitely comes off like a boy in a group of men.
It’s very interesting about the rumours about atm - very lopsided There are loads of rumours of further outs: - Bamford or Piroe - Meslier - Firpo - Kamara (Stade Rennais) - Rutter (Brighton) - Summerville (various) - Gnonto (Everton) - Wober (BM) Almost no rumours in other than OHare and that’s tenuous Fits with the club being very very tight on briefing out to the media. Suggests a lot of this is coming from others that the club is then confirming or knocking down (other than Firpo and Bamford at that came from a source close to the 49ers) I’d suspect the club has some plans up their sleeve….
I think just retaining the players we have would get me more excited than any players we could sign. If we are going to be selling the above mentioned players then we better have some Raphinha level gems unearthed because there's not many players about at this level that we know of that are on the level of Summerville, Rutter et al.
Yep to be able to start this season wheels turning, would be a NICE change of pace compared to the drama of last years Tsf Window and Start of season.
Anyone know what's going on with Callum O'hare situation? He is free agent and Coventry fans think he is Leeds bound. Do we have any ITK or rumours floating around?
One of the reliable WACCOE ITKs has said that our interest is genuine, plus [this guy](https://x.com/FPLG23/status/1808099519562727699) (who is hit or miss, but does have a couple hits)
9:18AM - [Popey](https://x.com/apopey/status/1808415051956498453) - Leeds United have rejected a bid from Real Betis for defender Diego Llorente. There has also been initial interest from Stade Rennais for Glen Kamara but #LUFC are not looking to sell the midfielder.
Good. It'll be hard to replace Kamara so we should hold him tight. And for Llorente, I hope its because we have suitors with better offer or because we know Betis could offer more.
Bit torn on Kamara, I think he struggles in a double pivot. He’s not good defensively and offensively is great at knitting together simple passes but it’s quite ineffective in the zone of the pitch he plays in as he can’t really do long passes and isn’t confident going further forward I wouldn’t be heartbroken if it’s good money
[Nico Schira](https://x.com/NicoSchira/status/1808380385836851526) (usually not super reliable): Glen Kamara is getting closer to Stade Rennais So much for a stable summer, not that he isn't replaceable, but when importance has been but into this summer being more stable than the last, and our need for senior players, I don't see why we'd needlessly sell a senior player, who can do a good job, for what I doubt will be any real profit Although saying that, I'm hoping this means that Farke realises we don't necessarily need three centre-mids who provide zero goal threat, and he'll be replaced by someone who takes more than three shots a season **But** could still be BS, although I'm not sure if I saw Kamara on yesterday's pre-season vid **EDIT: From what Graham Smyth has since said, it sounds like it is likely bollocks**
I think I'd keep Kamara, Ampadu and Gruev but certainly needs to add some goal threat as you said. Losing Archie / Shacks(If he would ever play there??) gives us slightly less midfield options, and god knows what we end up with at centre half, though I'm hoping we don't get forced into Ampadu there again (as good as he was with Rodon), would be much nicer to have options.
Am I alone in thinking selling Georgi wouldn't have been a bad thing? It's clear as day we need a natural 10, which he isn't. He's not exactly prolific Infront of goal either. Where does that leave him? (On the assumption we buy a 10)
Disagree, I think it would be awful. First, because for what we paid for him, unless it's an irresistible offer, and when I mean irresistible, I am talking about 50m plus, it would generate almost no profit, one of our best players, we can't let him go for minimum profit. Most importantly, after we lost Archie, he's the closest thing of fan favorite that we have in this squad, keep him no matter what.
No one would pay his current wages. We massively overpaid for a good but not exceptional player. He’s clearly far too ill disciplined for Premier League teams.
Brighton are willing to pay £30m transfer fee but wouldn't be willing to pay his £50k a week (after relegation reductions) wages?
Looks like that’s Wober and Aaronson back at TA soon then.
Probably Jr. and Willy replacements.
[Beren Cross reporting Leeds rejected a £30m offer for Rutter from Brighton. ](https://x.com/BerenCross/status/1808197271256740213?t=LlMrDgXOItI3bO5e9p_3cA&s=19)
Unless we got 50m it wouldn't really make much financial sense to let Rutter go this window.
No way in hell he leaves. One of our best players, and we spent a lot of money for him, unless we are seeing an offer that can gives us a huge profit, any team offering these silly fees can fuck off.
Wouldn't surprise me if he had a release clause
Thats the one thing that will keep him here IMO. Archie and Cre is pretty much all profit. Georgi was our record signing, so we're not as keen to sell.
Fuck off Brighton - make it 65 and now we are talking. People have spent years horrendously overpaying for your players time to share the wealth If Rutter and Archie leave in the same window I’m on suicide watch
I think it's similar to Archie where no amount of money will really feel worth it - he brings so much enjoyment to watching Leeds play. To think he might be even better this season is getting me excited already haha
My heart dropped when I saw TalkLeeds post this on IG. Georgi is such a gem Luckily I read the “rejected” quickly
Supposedly rejected 25m from Dortmund and Lyon last season too. I wonder what the club see his selling price at, especially now with the Gray sale clearing some PSR room.
I assume it would take a huge figure as we paid 35m for him so 25 would barely turn a profit for the regulations
Just seen the first Nat Phillips article from "Leeds United News" that's 4 or 5 windows we've now been linked with him.
He was legitimately as bad at Celtic as Duffy was, we shouldn't be going near him. I'd imagine it's bollocks anyway considering that's an area we've decent depth in now.
Waiting for the links to Dwight Gayle to reappear
To play up front with Nahki Wells.
How does Ryan Kent fit into all this?
Gary Hooper a good shout
O’Hare has officially left Cov now. Is there any concrete link to us other than Paul Robinson? Even the Paul Robinson story is just him saying oh yeah I reckon he’s the kind of player Leeds want.
Coventry fans seem convinced he’s Leeds-bound but I’m not sure why
Now we’ve brought some funds in, start making moves for Latte Lath kthnx. Him and O’Hare in would be decent signings for Champo football, and add decent depth in areas we need some more. (Obviously also sign at least one RB & LB, yeah?)
Intrigued to see if Lath will continue his form
https://x.com/mikeverweij/status/1808134343572738526?s=46 PSG in for Summerville according to dutch media
I heavily doubt this. I just can't see PSG looking to buy someone like Summerville to replace Kylian Mbappe, makes no sense. We are talking about a club that left Xavi Simmons go because he didn't get any game time. He might be on their watch list for the future but I'd be extremely surprised if they decided to go for him this summer. If they do we should ask for a stupid amount of money, they have more than enough of it.
Hope so They’ll pay stupid money for him
No point on even dreaming of the possibility Summerville stays. As I said here multiple times, the offers will come, and he will accept 100%. What our board needs to do is stay firm and not selling him for chips, pay the valuation or fuck off.
Had already resigned myself to him leaving so this isn't as upsetting as Archie leaving, just hope we get lots of money for him and can get a good replacement in! Saw rumours about Anthony coming back, not inspired by that, didn't see much from him when he played
Summerville won't be staying this summer. We will be PSR champions of the world so that's nice.
Jordan Torunarigha from Gent for €4m is the latest rumour. Interest from Leeds & Hoffenheim.
Good stats and I imagine he can play LB too. Wouldn’t complain
He has played LB before! He looks to be really good at tackling & intercepting but quite poor in the air, which is a bit of a shame considering how tall he is.
Sad about Archie - but hoping it lets us reinvest to invigorating the squad and (I pray) lets us keep Summerville at least.
[This article](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13588041/Tottenham-closing-30m-signing-Leeds-starlet-Archie-Gray-Joe-Rodon-heading-way-separate-10m-deal.html) from Simon Jones, who has wrote 49ers puff pieces and Leeds news in the past (so I would be surprised if he wasn't used to leak certain info), says that Leeds expect to sell Firpo and one of Bamford and Piroe You'd expect that to be Bamford out of the two, given I still think he'll have the higher wages and we'd need to sell Piroe for £10m+ to break even on FFP (which we wouldn't get this summer)
Honestly I’d be sad to see both go but if their wages are as high as sometimes reported neither anything close to worth it. Firpo has been brilliant this year but absolutely shite before that. I do think we could replace him for not that much money. Pat is a Leeds icon, but you can’t spend that much money on a player made of biscuits
>You'd expect that to be Bamford out of the two, given I still think he'll have the higher wages Sargent rumour fits in with that given they're a similar profile of player. Losing Firpo would low-key be a massive loss in terms of attacking. We really need to sort out some good attacking fullbacks especially with the prospect of Gnonto and Summerville leaving.
Wonder if Firpo’s wages are too high
Leeds looking at Sargent at Norwich according to caught offside Probably Norwich’s best player last season Knows farke 16 goals in 28 is a good return I think we played best when bamford was up top and he’s a similar mold
Sargent who has consistently looked absolutely atrocious whenever we have played them in both leagues? No thanks.
Or someone who scored nearly a goal every 90 mins last season for a meh team, can head a ball, and hold a ball up? I'd be happy.
There are better strikers in League One.
That’s just not true is it
This is a dreadful take. He is literally one of the best strikers in the championship and walks into our team if we signed him. Dont think he is premier league level yet but we would only have to worry about that when we get there
‘Walks into our team’ - dear God, no
I promise you if he signs he is our starting striker. He wouldnt be my favourite choice of striker to sign but he is easily better than any other we have
Then we won’t be going up. He’s not better than Bamford or Piroe.
yo crazy take
meh
Either Bamford is out of the picture or Joseph is not going to get a chance if we're buying another attacker Also the links to US Soccer just won't fucking die lol
I would be very disappointed if Sargent came to us, he’s very average but if he did I’d support him as with any other player of ours
If Archie died just so we could buy sideshow fucking bob I swear to god I am flying to California and burning down that shit stadium
haha class
Okay, it's talkSPORTS, but: Understand Joe Rodon is set to join [#LUFC](https://x.com/hashtag/LUFC?src=hashtag_click) as part of Archie Gray negotiations. Gray has already completed his medical with [#THFC](https://x.com/hashtag/THFC?src=hashtag_click) [https://x.com/alex\_crook/status/1807711428956008856](https://x.com/alex_crook/status/1807711428956008856)
Graham Smyth: Joe Rodon is part of the talks between Leeds United and Spurs. A separate deal but Rodon would be coming back permanently. Things are quite far down the line now in terms of negotations. Fee for Archie Gray in same ballpark as the Brenford deal (£40m) [https://x.com/GrahamSmyth/status/1807716671852835190](https://x.com/GrahamSmyth/status/1807716671852835190)
If the outcome of this summer is we can afford to keep Summerville and we get Rodon and stay compliant that probably is an ok outcome with Archie leaving
[Talks still progressing with Tottenham for Archie](https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1807687389516599795) (Fabrizio) I think as long as some documentation was submitted before the FFP deadline (which I assume would've been), it still counts towards the previous FFP window
I would think that’s true.. maybe some signed MOU or whatever between the parties.. I think in accounting terms you can also book it like that as well to hit the P&L in June
Didn't realise that's how it works. If we're desperate for a FFP sale surely Spurs have us over a barrel if they're the only one with documentation in before the deadline. Hopefully Rodon coming back is true.
[Tottenham received verbal offer from Ipswich for Joe Rodon.](https://x.com/AlasdairGold/status/1807523005813129529) Not having Rodon involved in the Gray deal is a bummer, not even a gentleman’s agreement as well...
We don't know what Tottenham's offer is full stop atm so who knows, and if there was a gentleman's agreement for them to sell Rodon to us in return, I don't think it would necessarily be reported like that
Fucking tractor fuckers
Rennes interested in Kamara L’Equipe
£35 million?...🤞😢
Leeds reject Brentford bid for Gray over “payment structure” Chelsea and spurs remain keen to
Good
Why is the thread deleted about Archie Gray?
Opened the door for Red Bull, sold Archie Gray - what can the 49ers possibly do to restore good will now? Win us the champions league maybe? Lol
Rumours of Farke walking now to top it off.
Relegate the club, sell all the players, and let's just forget everything that's happened and start again like it's 2007 lol. The whole journey from -15 to the premier league with Bielsa has basically been eroded already.
I wouldn’t go that far 😅 If he leaves though, I hope we find out today. Days already ruined.
Honestly shocking from the 49ers. They just pissed away all the trust we had in them. Fuck them. They should have sold Gnonto last summer. Fucking bastards.
Only thing I'm clinging on to to cope is that we still have Harry to come through next lol
All the rumours is that the gray family are pissed off with this situation, might not be true but all the rumours have been spot on so far. So doesn’t sound like Harry will be here for long
I wouldn't be surprised if the relationship with the Grays is tainted after this, and he looks to consider his options elsewhere. We're in the position where we need to raise funds, which I totally understand, but money is just one aspect of football for us as fans and for the rare instances where players come through the ranks and feel a fondness for the club.
Graham and Poppy saying the fee is 40m plus add ons
The Gray news is absolutely gutting. Played a massive part last season along with Rutter and Ampadu in making the next few years seem bright. FFS.
So we flopped in the playoff final with a manager who struggles with subs and now we're selling our best youth player for 20 years? God i hate this club sometimes
The margins are honestly hilarious. One mistake led to one goal and that was it, whole season a waste, heart ripped out of the club right after.
yeah its shitty.
It's done. 35m to Brentford, medicals and everything in place. What a fucking joke! [https://x.com/David\_Ornstein/status/1807075412905750727](https://x.com/David_Ornstein/status/1807075412905750727)
Nizaar Kinsella (BbC) Brentford in pole position to sign Gray. https://x.com/nizaarkinsella/status/1807072373964701698?s=46
The club claim Brentford haven’t expressed interest in Gray yet. https://x.com/grahamsmyth/status/1807057270942916852?s=46
Graham now saying the club have told him about an enquiry from Brentford I’d assume that change in tune means their aware of the public leak and change what they tell the press https://x.com/grahamsmyth/status/1807070479045320889?s=46
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I’d anticipate a lot of that ITK came from his brother following Brentford
If we have to sell Archie can it atleast be to a champions league club rather than fucking Brentford
[Charlie Creswell, set to be sold to Ligue 1 side Toulouse, for £3.8m.](https://x.com/apopey/status/1807050454011990379?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1807050454011990379%7Ctwgr%5E8be6bd644686856011d92a4a399a6ded15e6c002%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.waccoe.com%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fapopey%2Fstatus%2F1807050454011990379%3Fs%3D4626t%3DPAfL6g6GVlAlOjWQMR7WBw)
Shocking that we can’t unload Summerville and have to sell Archie instead. What don’t we know about Crysencio that is keeping clubs away from him?
Cant get English tax on him so price is reduced for that and 30-35 mil is alot to risk for most clubs. The previously rumoured interested clubs have have either got someone else in (Chelsea have done those PSR swaps with other clubs and got a young winger there and already have tons of them) or were only rumours, Liverpool as far as I am aware arent currently looking for a wide player). Archie's price is for potential not where his is currently at.
I really don't know. What I know is in England there's a culture that teams love to go after talented English players without any hesitation, Archie is that. Summerville probably have teams interested, but maybe teams at this moment aren't willing to pay what Leeds values him.
But the discount we are giving by selling Archie now instead of 2 years from now when he will be worth twice as much is way more than the haircut we take by selling Crysencio for £5-10 under his current value. Eg I’d rather we lost £7 million today than £20 million two years from now.
We apparently need 30 mil by tomorrow so Summerville would need to go for 30, cant change the price.
The main issue is what seems to be the case is we are going to sell Archie because of PSR, and we need to sell until the end of the month. Archie has buyers in place at this moment, the rest of the players do not.
Bets are off on Sky for Gray to Brentford. Brother has also started following them on instagram within the last hour. Waccoe saying Eddie Gray & Archie aren't happy and its against their wishes. Don't want to just be a doomer ofc but could mean Harry more likely to leave for compensation if a big club comes in seeing how we treated Archie after he turned down big clubs to sign his professional contract at Leeds only to be flocked to Brentford as an FFP lever.
No way a player goes against their wishes
Absolutely players go against their wishes. Happens all the time, if not most of the time.
No, the player (Archie) is being sold against both his an Eddie's own wishes. They apparently wanted to stay at Leeds for at least another season. Oh sorry, do you mean no way Archie leaves if he doesn't want to?
For the Archie story (that looks to be legit based on those discussing it on WACCOE), it sounds like we need to raise a decent sum (around £35m) by the end of this FFP period (end of Sunday), and Summerville doesn't have any immediate takers, so Archie is really our only makeweight Difficult to know what the alternative is, if we assume that is the case We'll know within 36 hours if that's all bullshit or not
When Will Ferrell and Paris Hilton hear about this they will block the move we dont have to worry
WACCOE is talking a lot about Brentford, seriously if we lose our best academy product over 20 years, who comes from a family with decades of history in this club to fucking Brentford, things won't look good for the 49ers. They will lose a lot of support, and to get it back, they will have to do some incredible miracles, like keeping Summerville and Gnonto, and I don't even know if it would be enough.
Yeah I can remember the shock when it came out that it was Brentford who were signing Jansson, and although Brentford are PL now, Archie has significantly higher ability and infinitely higher potential than Jansson did, so this will be like that multiplied by a thousand
I agree, I don't want to lose Archie, at all, if we lose to a team like Tottenham, and they give us Rodon as part of the deal, I would still be sad, but I'd understand if the price is right. But Brentford?
Just take the points deduction, do a Leicester
Leicester are currently in a lot of trouble
They are going to be fine. Not a single club since us 20 years ago has had points deductions affect their future as a club. Points deductions don’t mean shit.
I meant they have to sell now. They have to sell to balance their books and can buy until then. They are favourites to go back down.
They won’t go back down. No way. They will sell now. And then cheat again to buy. I don’t think Leicester is on any danger.
Hahaha no way? They have lost their manager and are set to sell their best players. Read up on this, they are totally hamstrung with FFP from overspending in the prem last time. They are literally one of the favourites. Check the bookies.
lol bookies had us staying up in 2023 and going up in 2024. Bookies are wrong all the time. Enzo left because a better club wanted him. Leicester will suffer now cheat later. That’s how it’s done.
Sigh. I’m not suggesting Leicester have no chance of staying up. And I’m aware bookies are wrong. I’m saying right now they are in a mess. Their manager left with a new guy who isn’t popular with the fanbase due to being a Forest manager. They have to sell players and currently can’t spend money. They are well above FFP limit. You said there’s no chance they go down. They are in a mess. Read anything about them currently, the journalists that cover them, the fan base. There’s a reason they have been labelled favourites right now. Acting like there’s ‘no chance’ is foolish. Happy to bookmark this.
Bookmark it. Leicester will be fine. Ipswich not. Soton maybe not. But Leicester will be fine. They are cheats and cheats win in the PL
Well they played the system and theyre in the prem and we’re in the championship
It's a gamble, if they get points deductions in the Premier League, get relegated again, the EFL is coming for them, they already wanted to go after Leicester this past season. If you get points deduction in the EFL, and you can't spend money because of restrictions, things can get ugly. Look at what happened to Wigan, Derby, Reading, Bolton to name a few. I know it is fucked up, I will be very angry at the 49ers if we lose Archie, especially to teams like Brentford because they could've avoided this way prior, but I would be more furious if we end up in League One or something because of FFP and PSR. We've been there.
Leicester isn’t getting relegated. Come on. Thats nonsense. They are a big club that would have stayed up in the PL last year had they been in it. No chance they get relegated this year. Taking the points deduction is ALWAYS worth it. Look at Everton!
Their violations are considered bigger than Everton's and Forest's, so we are looking at a superior points deductions compared to them. They lost their manager, they are going to lose Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall and potentially more players because they need to sell, and I believe the level of competition at the bottle of the table will be much better compared to how it went this past season.
And they are currently in a lot of trouble and have to sell their best players? Aren’t you arguing we need to not sell our best players?
No I'm arguing we don't sell Archie - i don't care if we sell Summerville or Gnonto or Meslier or Gruev or Cresswell or Greenwood or Gelhardt or Piroe or James etcetc... Gray is different, it's more than just selling another star player
Problem is, this whole rumor is based on the fact we need to sell by the end of the month, and Summerville, Gnonto, Meslier and the others don't have a buyer in place at this moment, and looks like Archie has.
Well thats even worse - makes it seem like the 49ers have been twiddling their thumbs for the last 6 months