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odiin1731

Banshees by far, but I do have a soft spot for Babylon, that movie deserved to have done better both critically and commercially.


TomPearl2024

I managed to stay away from seeing the reception it got until after I'd seen it. Felt like I saw a completely different movie, obviously it had it's fair share of flaws but I thought it was a blast.


SoylentGreen-YumYum

There were stretches of Babylon I absolutely loved. And then moments of "wtf were you thinking with this sequence?!?" Such an odd one overall. I will definitely rewatch it someday (unless I get hit by a bus crossing the street tomorrow or something equally dramatic). Which is more than I can say about a lot of movies I see nowadays.


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Banshees, and it isn't even close. Absolutely remarkable film.


Tokyoodown

Amen. It feels like the culmination of all the things I love about McDonagh's work


FourAnd20YearsAgo

Felt like a major evolution for him honestly, In Bruges is decent but very much wannabe Ritchie/Tarantino. Seven Psychopaths is the same but a hundred times worse. Banshees doesn't even remotely feel like it's the same director, it's so much more restrained and sincere.


nectarquest

I somewhat agree but would push back on that categorization of In Bruges a bit. It’s far more existential than Tarantino/Ritchie tend to be, and that does a long way. (Still far less mature than something like Banshees but it’s not the furthest thing) Seven Psychopaths on the other hand I’ll agree with you on.


Happy_Philosopher608

As a McDonagh fan, Ive seen 7 Psychos 3 times yet i struggle to remember a single thing about it. Very weird. His other films though are iconic!


officious_twerp

Don't forget 3 Billboards


sqaurebore

I had heard of the script for a while and him not feeling ready to make it yet and he hit at the right time. Sad the Oscar’s didn’t award it enough


Frodolives42

That’s the right answer. ☝️


the_damned_actually

Banshees, it’s under two hours, uses that time well, is consistently well written and acted. Babylon has like a few good scenes stitched together with what felt like filler.


bambooshoots-scores

“Uses the time well” might be my new favorite way to describe a film! Banshees is an absolute masterpiece. I do think that there is a 90 minutes cut of Babylon in there somewhere. Perhaps between when Pitt first gets the ride home and up to that elegiac scene with Jean Smart.


CletusVanDamnit

Why are you even comparing the two? What do they have in common for a topic of conversation other than "they are, in fact, both movies."


Mysterious-Farm9502

I said Banshees was the best film of 2022 and my colleague said no Babylon is better… That’s it.


CletusVanDamnit

Ah. Well, you're both wrong, because neither are the best film of 2022. But you're...less wrong lol. I had Banshees in my top 5 for that year, I'm just messing around. Excellent movie.


Mysterious-Farm9502

So what was the best film of the year?


Visible_Season8074

Aftersun.


Indoril_Nereguar

I love that film but for me Banshees definitely clears it


PossiblyArab

Same. Aftersun takes a very close second but banshees made my top 5 all time


FourAnd20YearsAgo

The favourite film of every Letterboxer with daddy issues. Edit: Could someone give me the rest of whatever spiel DreamKillaNormnBates is going off on? Since evidently they're too dumb to realize I can't take in their scalding criticisms beyond what I see in the notif when they've already blocked me over a joke about Aftersun and for...liking Banshees of Inisherin?


Visible_Season8074

Lol, very true.


Theotther

Or Tar


SpookyHalloween1

That is indeed the right answer


taralundrigan

Can we actually pick the best film of a single year? There so many genres it seems like a silly debate.


StoicTheGeek

At their best, I love “best of” or GOAT discussions - they are a chance to reflect on and celebrate great works and what makes them great. There’s no answer of course, but the fun is in the journey


Syn7axError

I agree, but the whole industry picks a Best Picture, so we'll keep having it. Personally, I think they got it right that year.


trevy_mcq

Tár


Red_Goes_Faster57

Triangle of Sadness


Coffee-Comrade

Aftersun is my pick. Absolutely beautiful and heartbreaking film.


CletusVanDamnit

Dinner in America, no contest.


FueledFromFiction

Everything Everywhere All At Once, no contest


HyderintheHouse

“no contest” is an outrageous claim


Jskidmore1217

I support you.


CumDwnHrNSayDat

Couldn't even finish Babylon, Banshees is top 5 of the decade so far for me


bambooshoots-scores

Be wary around that friend. Jk, sort of.


zillman_

They both start with the letter B


CletusVanDamnit

On my movie shelf, I wholeheartedly agree. In reality, one of them technically starts with the letter T.


Fancy_Flatworm_8711

I love them both equally; Banshees is probably the better movie, but Babylon was so much fun and a great love letter to early cinema imo, though I know quite a few disagree with that


TheTattooOnR2D2sFace

Yeah, I gotta agree with this take. Banshees is technically the better movie but I think I enjoyed watching Babylon just that little bit more.


_within_cells_

The Banshees of Inisherin by heaps! acting, location, story, donkey, martin, brendan, colin.


y0buba123

Finger!


TheGirlWithTheLove

Banshees!


DerpyDinoXyX

Babylon is my favorite movie so…


Happy_Philosopher608

Thought i would have to endure Banshees but turned out to be one of ny favourite movies of the decade. Watched it like 6 times now, love it to pieces.


bambooshoots-scores

It also turns out to play well for almost anyone. First movie in a long time that I felt *compelled* to show people and everyone I’ve put it on for has loved it.


Happy_Philosopher608

McDonagh's bizarre and offbeat dark humour is right up my alley but his character work and unique dialogue are always delicious delights!


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miike-enjoyer

Banshees, my reason being I have not seen Babylon yet, thank you for letting me waste ur time


iamspok

Banshees by a country mile for me. The tone and the story, and the way it's performed - sublime.


hesnachoproblem

Kerry Condon out acts everyone in Babylon.


Happy_Philosopher608

Nah, everyone in that movie gave a 5 star Oscar worthy performance. Everyone. Even the nasty copper and the donkey lol I didnt know Colin had that in him tbf. Bit I just watched North Waters and man he's killing it recently.


pi_face_

Someone get her a glass of sherry!


Adequate_Images

Banshees I can’t even believe this is a real question.


helgapataki91

Banshees!


TheMightyCatatafish

I like Babylon and Banshees wins by a country mile. Really unfortunate that it came out the same year as EEAAO, because every single aspect of that movie was top tier.


DolphyAtmost

The Banshees


FilipsSamvete

Banshees because Babylon was boring try-hard cringy nonsense


TheRealStuPot

Banshees, how is this even a question? Its a modern masterpiece and one of the best films of all time. Babylon is fun to watch, thats about it.


P_art_y____

Banshees is 10/10


magvadis

Banshees is 10/10 all the way through. Felt like Babylon fell off for me in the finale and the third act in general just didn't do it for me.


Prestigious_Term3617

*Babylon*, it’s a more engaging story, with impeccable direction, and really fleshes out a time of history that’s largely lost to time.


babealien51

Banshees is actually a good film.


BowlerSea1569

I not a Babylon hate by any means, but it's Banshees for sure. 


RVend0r

Banshees


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Banshees for sure.


Shagrrotten

Babylon, by a huge margin. Banshees is a movie I just can’t seem to “get”. Like I get that it’s a metaphor for the Irish civil war and all that, but a metaphor has to work as a piece of fiction first and it just doesn’t set right with me. I don’t believe Gleason’s character would do what he does, and although it’s handsomely made and acted, it just doesn’t work for me. 5/10 Babylon, on the other hand, is sprawling and messy and its ambitions probably outweighs its abilities. I would also love to cut the montage of modern movies out of the end of it, and if I did that it might be a 10/10 movie for me instead of just a 9/10. But as is, it’s a 9/10 movie that should’ve had Margot Robbie an Oscar.


milkfree

Yeah, it’s a metaphor but the movie plays out like a fable or a tall tale. The things the characters do only make sense in that bubble and you cannot hold the characters to any sort of realistic expectation. For example, I don’t think that chick would have fucked the fish man in The Shape of Water lol


Kenny__Loggins

Realism isn't a useful measuring tool for fiction in general. It's not realistic for a boat captain to become consumed with hunting a singular whale or for a person who was turned into a bug to sit idly by allowing their family to dictate everything that happens. Characters sometimes have certain motives or traits overemphasized for stylistic reasons and dramatic effect.


Bigangrynaked

The “ain’t movies wonderful” ending is the only bad thing in that movie


bambooshoots-scores

Aw man. That’s the only part of the last 60 minutes that worked for me at all.


Proper-Spray-1333

Banshees because the acting is incredible and the chemistry between actors is also incredible. Plus it has a great depiction of legacy and friendship.


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I like both. Thumbs up - Ebert


Doctor--Spaceman

Maybe just a single thumb for Banshees though, if you know what I'm saying...


Periodic-Inflation

This is the most underrated comment in the entire thread.


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That naked cop tho.


Seanmoby

I loved the first 2/3rds of Babylon enough that I tolerate the 3rd act and I found Banshees to be a really tough watch despite it being incredibly well acted, directed and written. I prefer Babylon but that's more just a reflection of the types of movies I enjoy rather than a reflection on the quality of the movies.


HiMeeeIsARoomieFan

I still haven't seen Babylon somehow but I LOVE Banshees. Can't wait to finally get round to Babylon tho


sollyactivated

Is this a real question


thegremlinkings

Banshees, Babylon was good but I've seen banshees about 5 times and its one of my favorite films of the decade so far


Freecelebritypics

Easily Banshees. Babylon was fun, but shallow. Best part was the soundtrack.


ghostsmut

I haven't even seen Banshees and the answer is Banshees.


JoinDarkOrder85

Love them both, but Banshees gets the edge.


pkfreeze175

Easily Banshees. The writing, direction, editing, and cast are way better. However Banylon does have great production design, score, and cinematography. I just wish the last hour of the film was heavily cut down as it was a mess.


wiegraffolles

Banshees is a really good movie but aside from all the great comedic parts it's incredibly depressing. As someone who suffers from chronic depression it was a tough watch and I was basically debilitated with depression for a full day after watching it. I wouldn't necessarily say I liked it.


valkrycp

Bansheeeeeees


SenorChoncho

I was very surprised by Babylon but Martin Mcdonagh wins everytime.


ParticularJoker

Babylon was a mess, both in plot and theme. Banshees all the way


Ebony2100

Easily Banshees


darrylthedudeWayne

Banshees. It's not even close.


Longjumping_Gain_807

Banshees and it’s not even close. It’s a great movie with great characters and serves as a perfect allegory for the Irish Civil War


GuappDogg

Banshees


T-Spin_Triple

Hydrogen Bomb vs. Coughing Baby


trampaboline

Genuinely really enjoy both but Banshees is literally an all-time favorite and handily beats Babylon.


D3taco

for me 2 5 star films


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atclubsilencio

Banshees was great but so depressing that I don't think I'd watch it again. I'm in the camp that loved Babylon, and I've already seen it more than once, and it was one of my favorite films that year. So, Babylon.


stratticus14

Babylon for me. Banshees is very well made and powerful but it also feels very somber and mean spirited, not one I'd want to rewatch as often. Babylon on the other hand feels so full of life, every moment is a mesmerizing spectacle that continues to out-do itself. I found Manny, Nellie, Sydney, and Jack much more compelling and fleshed out than Padraic and Colm, and similarly felt Chazelle's direction was more unique and impressive. I do find it interesting how there are some similar themes explored between the two though. Babylon is all about the immortality of art and Colm's desire to be remembered for something reminds me a lot of the characters from Babylon and their ambitions.


Which_Performance_72

Banshees because it's one of the best films I've ever seen. However Babylon is excellent and the cinematography and set pieces are just incredible


randeaux_redditor

Banshees


AccomplishedLocal261

Banshees and it's not close


gildorratner

The Banshees of Inisherin was a moving, funny and remarkably poignant film with unforgettable performances, I can still quote it after a single viewing and certain shots of the film feel as close now as first watching it. Babylon is like an embarrassing fever dream that causes a slight headache trying to remember. I am going with The Banshees of Inisherin.


Telepath-1

Banshees 100%. Should’ve won best picture


Rich-Past-6547

One is a great film. The other is Babylon.


Tummy1818

I was looking at Banshees and thought it would be a quiet boring Irish film. Instead was beautiful and so intriguing, Colin Farrell doesn’t get enough respect


malkadevorah1

He is also great in The Beguiled, Sugar series, Killing of a Sacred Deer, The Lobster, and more. He is not just a pretty face.


Seamdogcoach

Banshees is light years better


hgreen1234

The Banshees of Inisherin is one of my favorite movies of all time. I fell in love with it the moment I started it.


Jadeidol65

Babylon. What a an insane ride. Made me want Brandy with Ether.


malkadevorah1

I couldn't watch it more than five minutes. But brandy and ether sounds wonderful.


jackthemanipulated

Banshees but it's like a 10 out of 10 vs a 9


MonkeyKing70-

Babylon for me. Banshees is wonderful and is great for what it is, but Babylon is really Chazelle going for it and some of those shots are all-timers for me. Think it may also be a matter of how much ambition plays into your appreciation of a particular film.


icouldbeaduck

I prefer Babylon However Banshees of Inisherin is undeniably the better film


Important_Bath4953

I got through the first hour of Babylon and didn’t care to finish. Is it worth? I’m a big Damian Chazelle fan


alexbrobrafeld

it's a cycle of rampant excess and collapse although it keeps escalating. you've pretty much seen what it has to offer in the first hour. I really enjoyed the vibe and want to watch it again eventually, but i wouldn't recommend you to finish it in a hurry. maybe give it a second chance eventually.


bambooshoots-scores

Babylon is like a nine year old telling you the Aristocrats joke,but there is a good movie in there somewhere in the middle. There is one great scene where a character has to cry that cements Robbie as a star, and a soundstage sequence that is really fun. Jean Smart gets a couple opportunities to steal the show. That being said, that last hour is rough.


ReddsionThing

Bandsaws of Insulin


mae1347

It’s not a fair comparison. So the debate is pointless.


mae1347

I really enjoyed both of them. But they are profoundly different works.


ghostfacestealer

I havent seen Babylon yet but I really enjoyed Banshees


Beesh_EEEcup_1997

Both


DrNogoodNewman

That’s like having to choose between a well-crafted, nuanced bowl of soup made with the finest ingredients or gorging yourself at a high-end buffet.


benniprofane1

Apples and oranges. Both equally delectable.


unkellGRGA

I'm a Babylon stan through and through so while that is my choice out of these two, Banshees is a fantastic bittersweet little film that deserve all the accolades Don't see the need to stack them against each other since they're not playing to the same tune at all really, sort of like pitting Eyes Wide Shut against The Matrix just because they both released in '99


CrossBarJeebus

It's Banshees, but I do like Babylon.


YackDIZZLEwizzle

Just wildly different movies but I’d say by the time I’m dead I’ll probably have watched banshees more than Babylon. At least all the way through. Babylon has lots of great moments but idk how often I’m gonna watch that in its entirety.


Coffee-Comrade

Not sure why these two would even be in competition. Like debating whether an MLB team is better than a local little league.


NormanBates2023

Both are good in their own right and very well made


luckycsgocrateaddict

I prefer Babylon but I think banshees is a better movie


midlife_mikey

Banshees because I haven't seen Babylon! Lol


DrDreidel82

Lol


ParzivalTheFirst

I have to go with Babylon. I went in somewhat blind and it was an incredible whirlwind of an experience. I loved every aspect of it. Banshees was brilliant but very painful to get through, a lot more than I expected, and in the end I didn’t totally feel like I got the message but I did get most of it, I just felt like the trauma I went through to get there might not have been worth it 😭


burneraccidkk

The Babylon set-up


IDigRollinRockBeer

Haven’t seen them


clubpenguinMLG

they're both so close but the soundtrack of babylon edges it out for me


Ironmonger38

Banshees has a really solid script and less bombastic performances from its cast. Babylon is a party from start until almost the end, with big energy to match it. It’s really hard to compare these two movies as they have different energies. Banshees is the better film, but Babylon is still really great.


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Banshee is a deep movie, you sit down, watch alone and just analyse it. More melancholic and grey in visuals and also emotion. Babylon is an experience, music and unique visuals combining, giving you a pretty crazy ride (kinda bit too long) but ending it in a full mix of emotions.


MrAwesome73

Babylon because I haven’t watched banshees…


QuantumPhylosophy

It is a shame, both were disappointments to me, despite loving both directors previous work. While I definitely prefer the premise and themes of Banshees more, I found it "soulless," while Babylon was executed slightly better. Honestly, I found both pretty boring to watch, and rather superficial. Babylon was a more preferable OUaTiH for me. Both were 4-5/10 at best for me.


calebburns

Apples and Oranges


ZeddOTak

Banshees got me wondering what was the point of the movie while Babylon got me pumped and hyped up. Banshees is great but I couldn't fully grasp it, while Babylon is definitely my jam and its theme & message absolutely speak to me


luukse

Babylon is a 2 hour masterpiece, up until the whole Toby Maguire piece. Banshees didn't really struck a chord with me.


kukeszmakesz

Babylon because Banshees is rated fairly both critically and commercially while Babylon was shat on by both Academy and wider audience despite being made by Damien fucking Chazelle. Plus if I have to watch something I'd rather the wild ride of Babylon. But you know... it's an opinion


peperonibologne

Banshees is such a great film, and it's really hard to compete with. Babylon DOES get super close to it, though


Dr_5trangelove

Banshees by far. It’s a perfectly crafted movie. I had a hard time getting through Babylon. It was trying to do too much.


herequeerandgreat

obviously someone is in a 2022 mood


Adventurous_Goat_417

Both were in my top 10 of the year, but I think Banshees was a little tighter. Babylon was a little messier.


Successful-Pumpkin35

Babylon for me, I find the scale of the whole journey just more captivating. That being said Banshees is beautiful with stellar performances throughout. Babylon was a 4.5 for me and Banshees a 4.


StyleSquirrel

I haven't seen Babylon yet but Banshees is probably in my top 10 of all time so I don't see Babylon beating it when I eventually get to it.


ImaginaryMagazine9

Banshees is objectively better, but they’re both 5 star films for me.


DatabaseFickle9306

Babylon is a spectacular movie that few were prepared for.


Exact-Preparation397

Banshees because it is so much better


whitneyahn

Babylon’s highs are higher but Banshees is more consistent throughout. I lean Babylon because I’m always here for a big swing, but I do think they’re pretty equal peers tbh


HaughtStuff99

I liked Babylon a lot of Banshees has a special place in my heart


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^HaughtStuff99: *I liked Babylon* *A lot of Banshees has a* *Special place in my heart* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


ParsleyEither895

Babylon 100%. Many great scenes, great performances, and re-watchable.


Fuckaguybaked

Banshees by quite a bit


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Banshees. Babylon felt like a very fancy remake of Boogie Nights.


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^OkTap3378: *Banshees. Babylon* *Felt like a very fancy* *Remake of Boogie Nights.* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


weird_veil

I haven’t see Babylon but banshees is PERFECT


cherryultrasuedetups

One's good one's bad.


MagnusAntoniusBarca

You all suck. Babylon easily clears and it is not even close. I think about that shit every day, and Banshees hasn't crossed my mind more than a few times since I saw it in theatres. Banshees will go on to be a very solid part of McDonagh's, Gleeson's and Farrel's catalogue. Babylon will go on to be a modern classic.


LimeLauncherKrusha

They’re both fantastic


Disastrous_Tie_7923

Babylon because Banshees makes me too sad.


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Banshees for me. Babylon is a child playing at being an adult.


fudgepuppy

Banshees made me cry and laugh. Babylon made me so uncomfortable in a claustrophobic sense that I got nauseous and had to stop watching after 40 minutes.


desiigner1

I didn't enjoy Babylon at all sadly so Banshees


Sccar4712

Babylon easily, one of my favorite movies of all time. It basically appeals to everything I want in a movie, especially that outrageously good score. Free my guy from director jail already


Cvh2000

Babylon just by a hair


mistermiracleis

Both are great, but I prefer Babylon by a lot. However, I'm a sucker for movies about Hollywood/movie production so there's a strong bias there.


paolmmm

Babylon by far, banshees bored me


insideman56

I love Babylon threads because it shows how many people got filtered by it


Ciredem6345

I’m going to go against everyone here and say Babylon. This film touched me a lot. And I think its extravagent tone really makes people feel like it’s less deep than Banshees, somehow. I deeply love both film and they both left a big mark on me, but I seriously think the more contemplative vibes of The Banshees of Inisherin just makes it feel more ✨prestigious✨.


axemexa

Too late, a lot of people already said Babylon before you


Jusdurham

Banshees. The performances and setting are 🤌🏻


Impossible_Ad_2517

Definitely Banshees but I am a Babylon defender


inchargeofthedoor

Odd choice to compare the two


SillyAdditional

Banshees is great Babylon was just entertaining with three great scenes


dandaman64

Definitely Banshees, Babylon is good but definitely feels overrated by Film Twitter, and people who saw like 5 movies from 2022


Hatchaback

Banshees is great and Babylon is 3 hours of hollywood brown-nosing


MarvelPugs

Babylon is insanely entertaining and the better of the two movies. The filmmaking on display is crazy. The soundtrack just jacks up your heart rate by levels, the characters are all ones you care for. It’s so emotional and the visuals are stunning. Not to mention the acting.


Timothee-Chalimothee

Banshees isn’t bloated and doesn’t end with a montage of “look at all of da movies”. That montage really took me out of the scene, which is a problem when that scene is the ending.


SirDurante

Banshees is one of my favourite films of the past 10 - 20 years and a modern masterpiece... I don’t think about Babylon much.


ShaneMP01

Banshees is the better film but Babylon is more my preferred style: over-the-top and rewatchable. It’s like my new Casino (1995).


malkadevorah1

Was there finger breaking in it?


Devilock_

Banshees. Babylon seemed way too pretentious.


aniruddhk94

Babylon was a mess imo. Banshees of inisherin is way better.


thewarinspector

Babylon - it's going to be reappraised as a masterpiece, time will be very kind to it.


spiritofbuck

This is like comparing a Michelin star meal and the crumbs at the bottom of your toaster.


Artichoke-Fantastic

Banshees. Because every scene contributes to plot and/or character, unlike the bloated meandering odyssey of Babylon


Durangomike

Babylon, it is a better story


egg-sanity

Banshees


FWC_Disciple

I prefer Babylon but Banshees is still phenomenal


AgentClucky

Banshees is amazing, Babyloyn was just a massive circlejerk and cringe.