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amairoc

I once waited 6 years for an audiobook and hated every moment listening to it.


Turbulent_Berry_

Lol this happened to me once too! Not the 6 years but it was a long wait. A canon event, I fear. šŸ˜ž


Ill_Ad4003

Oooh do you remember what it was? I hated a Kate Hope Day book I waited two years for after loving her other offerings


amairoc

Man in the High Castle. I couldnā€™t follow the show, so I tried giving the book a shot. Wasnā€™t super important to me so I didnā€™t mind waiting. I forced myself to finish that book even though I hated it so much purely because I waited so long.


zwitterion76

I couldnā€™t stand that book. I had several friends tell me, ā€œoh, since you love history and reading, youā€™ll love this book!ā€ No. No I did not. The entire book consisted of ā€œif I read one more chapter, maybe it will start to make sense.ā€


amairoc

Yes! I kept hoping for that too.


ZebraLionBandicoot

You have no idea how much relief I feel.


bookwormknitting

Originally, the publisher sold this audiobook to libraries but then decided to make it an Audible exclusive and stopped selling it to libraries. When the show was released, libraries couldnā€™t buy more copies and were left with only the ones that were initially purchased. Sometimes thatā€™s why hold lists are so long.


sofatruck

Another reason to say Fuck Amazon


amairoc

I had no idea! That makes so much since. I often wondered why they didnā€™t buy more copies if so many people were waiting


arrogantpiano

Very similar thing happened to me but not so extreme! I waited over a year for it and was so disappointed. I wanted to DNF but I couldnā€™t bring myself to do it after the long wait šŸ„² after that I decided that if the wait is going to be longer than ā€œa few monthsā€ Iā€™ll just buy the book elsewhere.


ImYourSafety

I felt the same way. Unfortunately I've noticed that some of the scifi written around this time has this rambling incoherent style that I don't appreciate. It's also unfortunate because many consider it to be the "golden age" of scifi but I can't seem to get into a lot of it.


arianebx

At "Sunk Cost Fallacy" in the dictionnary, there is this delightful anecdote ;P)


ward_grundy

Nooo lol I love that book. You have to like philip k dick's writing style tho


Guitar_Strings5043

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Byx222

They have that included in the Audible Plus catalog (US) along with maybe 500 more Great Courses titles. You might as well sign up for 1 month. Plus, they are currently having a cash sale. I bought like 20 audiobooks for $1.46 each. They have a lot of good audiobooks within the 2 to 3 dollar range.


AlarmingCover8532

Thanks for the advice! I should probably have just checked that option out sooner!


ForLark

Hoopla has a lot of Great Courses and bingo passes for them!


kathlin409

Binge passes are great!


ForLark

Bingo! Binge!


nothingtoseehere1316

You could probably sign up for the trial period for the great courses online and watch it before the trial expires.


AlarmingCover8532

Yeah, that's probably the smart thing to do. Actually... okay, I just checked Kanopy, and the course is free on there under a slightly different name. Huh... maybe I should have thought of that sooner. Whoops!


SnazzzyCat

Wait, how did you only move up one spot? I thought each rental had a maximum 21 days.


AlarmingCover8532

My understanding is that the book belongs to a different library, and their patrons get priority over me.


Of-Lily

Their patrons get priority over **all 40 of you**. I would be rofl if I werenā€™t so intimidated right now by the sheer concentration of grit implied. In all seriousness, I really think you can make a solid case to your library to invest in a few copies. If they do, youā€™ll probably jump straight to the front of the line.


jeloco

How do you know it belongs to a different library? Iā€™d like to be able to know this on mine.


nitropuppy

It says two lanes


jeloco

Are you able to tell if youā€™re in the fast/main lane or the slower one?


nitropuppy

Im not sure! Iā€™ve only ever seen it in posts here. My library doesnt have this!


JacobBenWolf

Often times library systems have reciprocal agreements with neighboring library systems in the broader region, which means patrons of one Library system are eligible to get a card in another system, even if they live outside of the second system's service area. I'm a patron of the Seattle Library, which through reciprocal agreements qualifies me for a card for both the Pierce County Library System to the South and Sno-Isle Libraries to the north. I signed up for cards with both systems and I've found that putting a hold on a Libby book in the smaller systems usually results in shorter waits. Might be worth looking into!


AlarmingCover8532

Definitely, thanks for the advice! I'll have to check out what's available to me!


commanderquill

Sounds like you need to get a card with that library then.


niclovesphynxcats

at least on my libby, it doesnā€™t tell me what library iā€™m splitting lanes with. just that thereā€™s two lanes


Far_Away_63

I'm not sure, but I think you can check through your library's website. I remember years ago doing a search for a book that came up as electronic resource, or some similar title and I was not happy at the time because I wanted a physical copy. The electronic was the only copy.


eskarin4

I don't understand why this comment is getting downvoted. I have three library cards (used to have four, but my fourth expired within a year of me moving away after school and I never tried to fraudulently renew it). My third is inactive right now because I have to verify eligibility in person and I haven't been able to do that around three small children and a full-time job in almost a year. You can belong to as many libraries as you're eligible for. Some have residency requirements and some don't. I haven't had a NYPL card in a few years, but their collection is fantastic and you can apply for their ebook membership for nonresidents too next time you're in NYC.


Of-Lily

This sounds like a good suggestion to me. Since that library is probably near where OP lives, and because cards are issued according to the libraryā€™s policy, thereā€™s a good chance they are qualified to make use of the shared public asset. fwiw, definitely the type of advice I wouldā€™ve chimed in with if u/commanderquill hadnā€™t beat me to it.


commanderquill

I'm getting downvoted and tbh I don't know why. I have cards with multiple libraries so I can walk in and check things out when I'm in the area. Weird.


nyoelle

I think it's because people are against this practice because- edit: fraud or due to the cost of e-books for libraries. And the whole you should off set borrowing your digital loans with some hard copy loans. Or be part of the community that spends the money for that library area. --which I say is more complicated than all that. Some communities don't have excellent libraries and should have access to other libraries 'electronic materials. And that's why it depends on the library rules for getting a card. Some are lenient on not being a resident of the area.


Lil_Red_Ridings

21?! mine are all 14, wtf šŸ˜¬


According-Steak-4351

Itā€™s not a rental, itā€™s a loan. Rental implies that youā€™re paying to borrow it.


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According-Steak-4351

Iā€™m genuinely confused why people are upset about specificity of language. Maybe Iā€™m too autistic for Reddit, but dang. I would want to be corrected if I was using the wrong word


SnazzzyCat

I'm not offended by your correction and appreciate the knowledge.


According-Steak-4351

Thank you! I really appreciate that!


jsprusch

Libraries are partially funded by tax payer money so you're incorrect anyway. See how annoying that is?


According-Steak-4351

Not annoying. I think your conclusionā€™s a stretch, but Iā€™m always open to debate


lambwolfram

Does your library have Kanopy? Might be on there


AlarmingCover8532

Yeah, I just checked and it does! To my credit, I didn't spot it earlier because they titled it something else, but it appears to be the same exact content. I wish I'd figured that out sooner. Hopefully nothing important has happened in Russian history during the last two years that may have made this course outdated...


puzzlemetoday

lol


CampyUke98

I think You're good. I've heard Russias been pretty quiet recently /s


donnareads

Too funny; yes, it's time to admit defeat!


bang__your__head

In that case you should get the free month of Audible and listen.


Final-Performance597

Can you get hoopla at your library? Mine has a one week binge pack on all the Great courses ( renewable) and no waiting


AlarmingCover8532

Yeah, I just discovered it on Kanopy. I probably would have found it sooner, but the course has a different title. Hopefully it's worth the wait!


Savebrit

What is Kanopy?


DuckDuckSeagull

Streaming platform specifically for libraries.


momofeveryone5

Do yourself a favor and get the great courses for 3 months a year. Seriously. It's absolutely worth every penny. I can't commit to a whole year, so I do a few months at a time and then cancel, when I'm ready for another course or I have something going that makes me want a history binge, I resubscribe. The app is great to, you can pop between the video and the audio with little issue.


AlarmingCover8532

I've definitely got to check that out. I love listening to the Great Courses on Libby, but since my library's started using two lanes, they've been way more difficult to get ahold of. This isn't the only course I've tried to borrow where I've spent months making no progress in the line.


momofeveryone5

I've done this one you posted specifically and it was fantastic btw, also the one about the eastern European block is good too. I did both in a month while doing a large sewing project and they played off each other really nicely- if you're looking for a rec after this one!


AlarmingCover8532

Ooh, thanks for the recommendation! I just used my newly freed hold slot to place a hold for it. They've got three copies of that one, so hopefully my progress should be faster!


dalinar78

You can also just buy it used for $6 at Abebooks.


Status_You_8732

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bassetbooksandtea

Do you have hoopla? My hoopla has it where you can get a binge pass for great courses plus that last about a week at a time. Also if you have xfinity cable, you typically get temporary free access to great courses for two weeks to a month in the summer. I donā€™t know if they still do this since I dropped the cable part two years ago.


Said-id-never-join

I have it on hoopla as well. I just donā€™t know if the bingepasses are a hoopla feature that every library gets access to or if itā€™s a library specific feature


AlarmingCover8532

I don't have Hoopla, but I did finally find it under Kanopy, where it was hiding under a different title. I'm two lectures in and I'm really enjoying it.


Creepy-Lion7356

Sounds like my experience. Glad/not glad that I'm not the only one.


RegencyFungus

Is it a great courses book? You should see if you have access to Kanopy through your library, I believe those are on there!


AlarmingCover8532

Thanks! Yeah, it's on Kanopy. Though for some reason it has a different title, which accounts for me not finding it sooner. I'm just glad I can abandon this hold without the guilt of giving up!


hufflepuffmom215

Try getting a card at another library. Some counties give cards for anyone in their state, and others give cards to non-residents for a small fee.


MoulinSarah

I would just buy it at that point


meadowbunny713

It's not about the destination it's about the journey


Dino-chicken-nugg3t

Okay would it work to delete the hold and then place a new hold? If itā€™s been two years maybe thereā€™s some issue or glitch?


AlarmingCover8532

I think it's because the book belongs to a specific library in our system, and their patrons get priority over everyone else. Luckily I found the course on Kanopy, so I can finally cancel this hold.


Dino-chicken-nugg3t

Yay!


Mycroft_xxx

How does this happen? Donā€™t people get them for two weeks at a time?


siempreslytherin

There are 2 lanes. The book is shared between libraries, but one library has priority. Anyone from that library who wants the book gets it before anyone who isnā€™t from that library no matter when they request it. Iā€™ve been on both ends of that one.


Mycroft_xxx

Ah gotcha. Thats rough


SideWalkChalk7210

Never give in. Never surrender.


AlarmingCover8532

Ha! Not gonna lie, part of me wants to see how long I can keep this going for. Like, having a ten-year wait would be kind of funny.


SideWalkChalk7210

Exactly!!


lassywoof

NO! Don't give up! They can break your spirit but they will NOT defeat you! DO NOT let them win. It's a matter of principle now! šŸ˜…šŸ˜‚


AlarmingCover8532

Ha! There's a part of me that does think it would be hilarous to let it sit on my holds shelf for ten years, just for the laugh.


lil_retro_futurist

If you have Spotify premium, they now have (some) audioboks for free!


AlarmingCover8532

Oh, I didn't know that! Thanks!


Amyx231

Youā€™re probably using a network libraryā€™s resources. By design, their own patrons (that pay them taxes) get priority.


bubbamike1

You must be in the non-resident line.


mylifeisathrowaway10

Oh wow, and on a Great Courses book too? Usually those barely have a waitlist!


beeonkah

what is a Great Course? I feel like iā€™m missing something cool!


ElectricJellyfish

Theyā€™re university level lecture series, mostly by professors. Theyā€™re great, Iā€™ve listened to and enjoyed many of the history series.


beeonkah

oh wow that sounds awesome. i love this. thank you


South_Oread

Why not try Hoopla? It is better in most ways than Libby. You can also request books through your local library?


raeliant

How does this even happen? Are there unlimited renewals in your system??


AlarmingCover8532

I guess there are two lines for this book, and the other one gets priority over mine. I wish I knew more about how the system works, because it seems like as long as there's a single person in the first line, no one in the second line will ever move up.


Chocolateheartbreak

Usually theres a line for the county then a line for the whole consortium. If you live in some states, you can get great courses thru other means


SuzyQ93

Check out physical media at a library near you, too. The library I work at gets these things donated to us - one of our professors has a friend who apparently subscribes, then passes them to his friend, who passes them on to us. Sure, it's DVD (or CD, occasionally), but it includes the physical guidebook(s) as well. Obviously not every library is going to find these important enough to their patron population to stock them, but it's probably worth taking a peek.


AlarmingCover8532

That's a good tip. Unfortuantely, my library's a bit of a long distance from me, but I may need to schedule a trip down there to take adventage of the physical media.


corenee89

Maybe the library accepted their defeat too and got another copy


Tiramissu_dt

Contact your library, this doesn't seem right. Books usually have certain period they can be borrowed for and if that expires or the person doesn't borrow the book the line moves. It must be a bug.


jkraige

You're right. And unlike physical books, you can't just hold onto it. It gets returned automatically once your borrowing period is up


AlarmingCover8532

I'm sure the long wait has to do with the "two lane" system my library has for some books. Though I am curious what the response would be if I sent them this screenshot.


wixkedwitxh

wtf? Does a digital license even last that long?


Otherwise-Actuary-99

Iā€™ll bet some academic checked it out for graduate work and they got to keep the book over a longer term. At this point I would try interlibrary loan for the actual book.


Dohagen

Thereā€™s no need to cancel unless you canā€™t put a hold on something else you want more due to hold limits. Just let it ride.


shortinha

Don't give up. I doesn't cost anything. I waited 3 years and I finally got it. Unfortunately, this was part of a series and I couldn't remember what I read previously so I had to reread parts of the previous books.


Joey_Marie

I just received an audiobook 2 weeks ago that I had placed a hold on in December... of 2021. Lol. Unfortunately, it wasn't as good as I was hoping, but that giddy feeling I got from finally receiving it, was completely, 100 percent worth it. Lol


AlarmingCover8532

Ha! Congratulations! Well, now I feel silly for complaining!


Joey_Marie

Are you kidding? I almost gave up a hundred times! Lol.


wdmk8

Worth the wait .


Polaris5126

Lol I had no idea people are lining up for a history of Russia. Who are these people? Including you!


AlarmingCover8532

Honestly? I've always liked history, but my high school only covered US history and Western civ, so I was hoping to fill in a big knowledge gap. Also, a large chunk of great literature comes from Russia, and I figure some background in the country might help if I ever try to tackle "Anna Karenina" or "Crime and Punishment."


Polaris5126

I was just joking in my previous comments lol. It is very commendable of you to further your history knowledge through self learning. Iā€™m just surprised there was such a line and long wait for such a niche book/text.


AlarmingCover8532

Ha! That makes sense. Though now that you mention it though, I'm also starting to wonder why this particular course has so many people waiting for it.


MizzSkywalker

"It is wise to study the ways of one's adversary." ... Jack Ryan


Polaris5126

Yes any day now you will be over powered by the Russians. They are coming to take your favorite shirt


MizzSkywalker

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HoneyHoneyHi

Enjoy? [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuZ-NE\_Kas3\_nb5ctYb0fcwg9RUhoLu4a](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuZ-NE_Kas3_nb5ctYb0fcwg9RUhoLu4a) (The lecture playlist) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWKUsg5zzAI&ab\_channel=TheSecularApe](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWKUsg5zzAI&ab_channel=TheSecularApe) (Part 1) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n\_9yhdeKvSs&ab\_channel=TheSecularApe](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_9yhdeKvSs&ab_channel=TheSecularApe) (Part 2) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4IIGEYDgK0&ab\_channel=TheSecularApe](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4IIGEYDgK0&ab_channel=TheSecularApe) (Part 3) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7QlyfLINRo&ab\_channel=TheSecularApe](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7QlyfLINRo&ab_channel=TheSecularApe) (Part 4) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W\_bBCrhK4U4&ab\_channel=TheSecularApe](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_bBCrhK4U4&ab_channel=TheSecularApe) (Part 5) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkXFvrcF\_6Y&ab\_channel=TheSecularApe](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkXFvrcF_6Y&ab_channel=TheSecularApe) (Part 6)


AlarmingCover8532

Ooh, that's definitely intersting. It looks like the older edition of the course! After I've finished with the current one on Kanopy, it might be fun to check this one out. Thanks!


JerkRussell

I just gave this away in cd form this weekend! Iā€™m laughing a little because you waited patiently for it whilst Iā€™m over here with a huge box of Great Courses that I couldnā€™t give away for free for months.


AlarmingCover8532

Ha! Well, the good news is that I eventually found it on Kanopy, so I'm finally enjoying it. And I didn't have to betray my cheapskate principles and spend money!


ChasingPotatoes17

Can you do an Audible trial? They have a lot of Great Courses available. That library queue is wild. Iā€™m never going to complain about the occasional 16 week wait again.


AlarmingCover8532

I was eventually able to find the video version of this course on Kanopy, so I'm finally getting to check it out. (It's pretty good. Not worth a two year wait... but still pretty good!) And yeah, this hold has deinitely made all my other holds seem tame in comparision!


sleepsucks

Audible has some great courses. You can get them for 1 credit.


AlarmingCover8532

Yeah, youre right. Luckly, I found the course on Kanopy, so I can remain a cheapskate.


tonna33

Oh no. At this point I wouldn't even care if I listened to the whole thing, but it would definitely staying in my Holds. I'd need to see how long it would take. It would be more entertaining for me than the actual book. Or maybe just additional entertainment, in addition to the book.


AlarmingCover8532

Part of me definitely thinks that it would be fun to check back in ten years and see that no progress has been made. I suppose it depends on if the spot on my holds shelf is more valuable than the laugh I'd get from looking at it!


ifimhereimnotworking

[https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/history-of-russia-volume-one-from-the-beginnings-to-the-empire-of-peter-the-great/19048390/?resultid=fa9ae59f-291d-4540-a14e-1035383579e0#edition=70560540&idiq=62679449](https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/history-of-russia-volume-one-from-the-beginnings-to-the-empire-of-peter-the-great/19048390/?resultid=fa9ae59f-291d-4540-a14e-1035383579e0#edition=70560540&idiq=62679449)


ifimhereimnotworking

Audio format [https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/history-of-russia-from-peter-the-great-to-gorbachev\_mark-d-steinberg/1857414/?resultid=694affee-af8f-4e39-812f-f6529f43c456#edition=8559795&idiq=46922097](https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/history-of-russia-from-peter-the-great-to-gorbachev_mark-d-steinberg/1857414/?resultid=694affee-af8f-4e39-812f-f6529f43c456#edition=8559795&idiq=46922097)


AlarmingCover8532

Thanks for that! There's definitely a point where time is more valuable than money, you're absolutely right.


ifimhereimnotworking

sometimes I decide my time is more valuable and just go find whatever it is secondhand


thishful-winking

I've been waiting for The Prince Of Tides audiobook since September 2022. There is one copy and hundreds of people in line...


AlarmingCover8532

Oh no... well now I feel silly for complaining! Good luck with your wait!


thishful-winking

At any given time I have a dozen holds! Something is always popping up! šŸ˜†


QueeringHope

Try other libraries if you havenā€™t already. Nowadays a lot more libraries offer free digital cards even to people who arenā€™t local. Iā€™ve got cards for libraries Iā€™ve never had the chance to visit in person.


New-Stick-3828

This book seems to be available with an Audible subscription (part of their "free" collection, not for a credit). I know they have a $0.99/month for 3 months deal going on, maybe you should try that.


UsualHour1463

Never give up!


themodern_prometheus

Idk if this is an option for you, but in my state you can get a library card at any library as long as you have a state ID, or piece of mail with an in-state address. My GF and I run an elaborate library card racket, in which we get a library card at every town we stop in when we are on the road. This allows us to check out books on Libby from lots of different libraries. I find that if a hold is obscenely long at one library, it is often shorter elsewhere. Might be worth looking into for you.


kandlbeauty

2 years! šŸ˜Æ. That is absolutely wild!