Domains take time to use, and someone would be able to react to the domain expanding. Even if someone like Gojo can do something like 0.1 second Shibuya domain
That's if he can everything in that verse scales lower so everything we're seeing in demon slayers is through the perception of regular humans, highly trained but still regular humans
Even the upper moons didn't really have solid feats in comparison to 15F sukuna
It's tough to really compare the two because yorichi in the JJK verse wouldn't have any cursed energy and wouldn't be able to compete with sorcerers
You don't say 'no CE no win' when power scaling â you compare abilities and feats as if they can directly compensate
I haven't watched demon slayer but I don't doubt that characters would be able to react and avoid/overpower a DE
He can't see it that's the problem, he can't perceive or see anything to do with any of sukunas attacks most sorcerers with CE can't even dodge or perceive cleave/dismantle
Yes he could But anyway yoriichi perception bltizes the verse and only loses to gojo bc infinity unless we make red blades work like inverted spear via verse equalization
It wouldnât help him against full power Sukuja either because heâs way too durable.
Yoriichiâs problem is that his sword is only effective because it negs demon regen. But demons arenât particularly durable.
Demons are extremely durable? Especially muzan, the mf yoriichi completely obliterated. And they only cancel regen when they behead someone, you can still regen everywhere else.
I think the swords are more extensions of the user rather than the tools that allow them to damage kn their own. Thats why tanjiro was able to cut that big ass boulder in half, even though most people wouldnât have been able to do so without breaking a katana. Hell with what we seen in the show they might just be normal swords that kill demons on beheading (and change color)
Not even beheading can off then permanently since demons that got a strong will can actually just straight up refuse to die like what happened to Muzan, Kokushibo and Akaza. Like I'm not saying they solo JJK and all but you gotta admit they hella durable for their build.
Sukuna survived a hollow purple, an attack that casually destroyed everything in a 1 km radius and lived through it. Yoriichi isnât doing shit to him.
Heâs also pretty much equal to Gojo in stats, who tanked a MS, an attack that as we saw can casually dice skyscrapers around it. Gojo tanked a stronger version.
The most Yoriichi would do to Sukuna is give him some light scratches.
Wait hanami also survived a hollow purple. And hanami died from being pushed against the wall. Im pretty sure you can put a thing in front of you, move, or both
I forgot what ms stands for so i cant speak for that, but gojo was definitely more physically powerful than sukuna, so putting them in the same bar is kinda unfair
Hanami got half her body vaporized by a purple and only lived because she was able to get out of the way. If she had been fully hit, there would be nothing left of her. Sukuna meanwhile tanked a stronger purple to the face and only lost an arm and two eyes.
MS stands for Malevolent Shrine, itâs basically what Yorriichi did to Muzan but for an extended period of time and dozens of times stronger.
Gojo was only better than Sukuna in h2h because of speed, their other stats are equal pretty much.
Nothing in demon slayer comes cose to destroying multiple city blocks, safe to say Sukuna who tanked attacks like that is able to survive anything yorichi throws at him.
Hanami survived hollow purple, he didnât tank it, sukuna tanked it, same way surving a bullet is a lot different then tanking it
Put like this, that shit went straight through hanami if gojo had aimed a little to the left hanami would just be dead
Hanami died from space itself fluctuating to crush her. Gojo also used a lesser version of Hollow Purple against Hanami. The one he used against Sukuna destroyed 4km
Sukuna used domain amplification to block hollow purple. Otherwise he wouldâve been deleted, he said it himself during the fight.
That said, I donât know if Yoriichi can cut through him, thatâs debatable. If he can, yoriichi would win, if he canât Sukuna would open his domain and itâs over.
That just not true, the weakest upper moon straight up destroyed a zone bigger than Sukunas domain and his neck was already harder than any of his own attacks wich the sound Pillar could cut through
Just because they use swords doesn't mean they don't have a lot of attack power after all, the main villains have a Hierarchy entirely based on their strength and have been stated multiple times to have attacks just as strong or stronger than steel
[it was 266 x 355 meters on size](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/g00885/%23:~:text%3DThe%2520Yoshiwara%2520district%2520was%2520around,by%2520a%2520large%2520central%2520gate.&ved=2ahUKEwi5qKbP-5CFAxXGD0QIHSTkDzgQFnoECBUQBQ&usg=AOvVaw07dKwSYCgMt0KS9QY3FjIR) thought wikipedia says it was almost double the size.
Can Goku blow up the planet? Yup, would he do it? Nah... would be funny
Gojo: Haha! You can't hit me!
Goku: Dang, I really can't hit him... I'm gonna pull a Vegeta.
Gojo: A what now?
Goku: KAMEHAME!
**Meanwhile**
Vegeta: Huh, I feel like something bad is going to happen, but I feel a bit proud...
**Sees explosion in the distance**
Vegeta: SON OF B-
i also think someone scaled gojo and his Infinity, and it came to like you only need light speed to bypass it. Iâm really not sure how accurate that is I donât scale but Goku is way beyond light and so are a lot of other shonen
I mean, he's glazed for a reason. >!He negged the prime version of muzan, every demon slayer and actual demon (other than dkt) are weaker than a heavily poisoned muzan with permanent scars from yoriichi, further impeding his strength!<
At least the most prime he could get, since he got permanent scars after that fight, and lost most of the mass for his hearts and brains, making him much weaker
I mean I guess that depends on verse equalisation and how Sukuna can be killed. Yoriichi is so much faster than anyone in jjk that he can cut sukuna in a thousand pieces like he did to Muzan before getting hit. Would that be enough to kill Sukuna? Honestly idek
Sukuna open his domain and yoriichi dies, but if yorichii can approach Sukuna fast enough then Sukuna honestly just dies (remember jjk characters have ass slash resistance and Kusakabe can cut Sukuna)
What tf is up with power scaling Kuskabe fought one of sukuna weakest form and was able to slash him, with the added boost from his simple domain, full powered 20 finger sukuna has some of the best durability in the entire series, Kuskabe is not an anti feat
With verse equalization, either Yorichi will have cursed energy or he will be a heavenly restriction type of guy, he is already faster than allist everything in JJK but with the heavenly boost...alright idk
No clue what /ul means but OFF is a RPG maker game from the early 2010's, it's an incredible game that I would recommend you play or watch someone like CoryXKenshin play, since no explanation I can give will do it justice
The low resolution of this image somehow makes it extremely funny
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DS fans when they realize Yorichi doesnât have any actual measurements of speed or feats and his cutting up Muzan is the equivalent of Toji stabbing Dagon a lot
Goku fans are relatively normal compared to other fans, like Sukuna fans. I've been seeing them say shit like he beats Asta and Deku, forget beating Goku if he can't get past them.
Goku fans are absolutely not normal bruh, they're easily the worst powerscalers out of any fandom and are genuinely the most obnoxious in any of these debates.
Gege already confirmed that this was an extreme lowball of their speed and we have pre ts Hakari partially dodging Kashimo's lightning. Both Gojo and Sukuna are several blitz tiers above this.
Yeah he doesnât dodge but he is able to react quickly enough when it gets sent into his forehead to vent the CE out of his nose so his whole brain doesnât get fried. Not exactly dodging lightning but it does show that his reaction time is close to the speed of lightning
As far as I can tell he didn't dodge considering it would have been mentioned by kashimo that He actually managed to dodge it or least redirected to another part of the body.
Yes indeed! Sukuna literally point blank dodges Kashimos EM waves as well no? Not to mention this was after getting purpled in the face. Also I always figured thereâs a fair chance that Kashimoâs cursed lightning is faster than normal lightning (which would make the jump from dodging lightning to dodging light a tad less nuts even tho Gojo/Sukuna are leagues above pre ts Hakari)
That's basically what nerfing is
"My characters are actually stronger than what I showed them in the story but I still made their limit lower than what is supposed to be"
Stop with that lightning bs.
Lightning can't even be dodge in real life, Gege doesn't know shit about science.
(And no you can't react to it, lightning will strike either you move or not, the closest thing to reality that feat was is simply that Kashimo didn't intend to actually kill Hakari)
anyways, let's not speed scalling with this fight, it's clearly not a good reflection of reality.
Honestly that statement is quite probably the weakest type of evidence. Contradicted evidence.
Maki was dealing with mach 3 during the goodwill event easily with handgun ammunition being around that level w/o cursed enargy, and later on maki can face sukuna on equal footing said sukuna who feats wise at a wank is light speed but the author likely intended lightning speed with the kashimo fight.
All in it's very weak downplay evidence.
I ain't saying sukuna wins but this "evidence" is just silly.
Mach 3 is inconsistent as Gege said himself, we have Hakari and Sukuna reacting to Lightnings of Kashimo, They are characters above that speed, at the very least in reaction speed, and speed is not everything, Sukuna breathes and Yoriichi is a salad.
In regards to the speed. Sukuna literally speed blitzed maki while he was severely weakened and didn't have a functioning heart.
They are characters that are much faster than Maki and Toji.
Even Gege has said the Mach 3 thing was silly when we have charicters like pre ts Hakari reacting to lightning and pre awakening Maki catching bullets as well as Sukuna dodging Kashimos electromagnetic waves
Given his feats against Muzan and comparing it to Maki's performance against Sukuna...if Yoriichi can manage not being saladed by Dismantle and MS...and can close the distance...he can damage Sukuna more than anyone has in the series so far....
Oh ffs a weaker version of Maki literally out scales the âMach 3 statementâ when she catches a bullet point blank. That and the fact that Sukuna should at least be able to react to lightning when heâs fighting Kashimo
Yoriichi after he cuts off sukunas head only for sukuna to regenerate and hit him with a malevolent shrine (malevolent shrine is faster than some bum ass sexist cursed sprit)
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Imma be real, demon slayers are just regular highly trained people with a somewhat supernatural ability that kills them at 25 top of the verse can't even conceive basic level curses
A demon who isnât even an upper moon is easily large city block level and the weakest upper moon destroyed the entire entertainment district stop down playing ds characters just because you believe jjk is the greatest thing to exist
You mean how Gyutaro had to die to blow up the Entertainment District? Reminds me of how Yuki turned into a black hole after she got hit by Kennyâs small Uzumaki
There is an immense difference between any damage caused in demon slayers and shibuya let alone how much damage was done during the shinjuku showdown
Power=/=good demon slayers story, worldbuilding and character writing is league's beyond JJK so it is just objectively the better piece of manga but trying to scale these two in a fight is not ideal, truth is all those demons, lost to regular people, trained people but regular people nonetheless none of those slayers had actual powers kokushibo, akaza all of them died to regular swordsmen
None of them besides the demons would be able to tank any of sukunas slashes, and the demons would definitely not be able to escape being atomized by either Malevolent shrine or sukunas flames
And I'll remind you mahoraga has at least equivalent if not greater levels of healing then muzan considering everything he went through against sukuna
I donât think x ray Vision and being able to magically summon a scar on yourself which then proceeds to massively boost your physical capabilities a normal person thing
Tanjiro's first feat was cutting through a boulder larger than he was. Even after years of training afterward the hashira were too fast for him to see and effortlessly decapitated demons that took him levels of exertion so extreme it almost caused his death to even harm.
The very first thing the protagonist did is something no human in history could ever achieve, while being not a single iota of the power that characters who get fodderized by the power ceiling exert casually.
Ds is a far more powerful verse than you're making it out to be.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:LIFE_OF_KING/Jujutsu_Kaisen_-_Finger_Bearer_evaporates_a_cave
15F Sukuna speed: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Totiseda/JJK:_15F_Sukuna_Speed
Now using the 5x multiplier because it was 15 fingers we get 565,185 Mach
Also speed feats from other characters: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Totiseda/Jujutsu_Kaisen:_Speed_Calculations
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:LIFE_OF_KING/Jujutsu_Kaisen_-_Todo_creates_an_imagination_in_0.01_seconds
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:BreezeHM/Sukuna_Intercepts_Electromagnetic_Waves
In conclusion: I need to go outside, also take this as you will
well doing calculations, muzan out scales both gojo and sukuna as daki alone took out a chunk of the whole entertainment district with a single attack meaning the higher the rank the more powerful meaning muzan can be scaled to planetary but as for this, idk who wins this but the only reason muzan can't beat gojo and sukuna is due to hollow purple but muzan could break infinity with, again, speed calculations, so erm actually >!demon king tanjiro solos!<
light speed attacks and attacks that cut through space both can break infinity, muzan is much much faster then bullets and such and his attacks are also much faster then anyone would think
But light speed attacks don't break infinity, if you say this because light itself touches gojo that's because he himself let's it go through but in a fight even if he can't perceive an attack he will keep infinity up for anything thats not light and air so i don't see how lightspeed would surpass infinity since anything with a travel time from a point A to B will be infinitely slowed down by gojo
Imma be real with you chief if muzan had those powers everyone would be dead in demon slayer they're all just highly trained swordsmen author confirmed
Muzan lost to a bunch of slightly powered up but still human swordsmen.....there are no actual powers outside of the demons in demon slayers all the water and fire effects we see are just that effects for our entertainment
Malevolent shrine atomizes everything gg no re
you do know >!yorichi did worse!< then malevolent shrine and muzan was fine right? Your ignoring the whole regen thing and those human swordsman only >!**won because muzan was heavily prisoned** !<
Well considering the fact that cursed energy is a supernatural ability and not something muzans equipped to handle we can both agree being turned to dust via giant fireball or infinite slashes will kill him
If there's nothing to regenerate from he can't regenerate
fire only slightly slows regen , it doesn't stop it completely, please read the manga and cursed energy isn't doing much when it comes to sukuna because again, not a single one of his attacks are the literal sun, fire only slows regen, it doesn't stop it completely and this was shown in the anime and manga multiple times and muzan is quite literally equipped to deal with anything sukuna could throw at him as again, sukuna doesn't have access to a single one of muzan's weaknesses
Yeah but again if there isn't a single piece of you left to regenerate after being hit by a veritable nuke you aren't regenerating
You're underscaling feats here to serve your own narritive, he didn't just destroy shibuya he reduced it to literal nothing, he atomized and erased every last thing for miles, he didn't just blow up the entertainment district there was nothing left but a crater
Sukuna is the strongest character in all of fiction
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Yorichi or whatever overwanked and mid. Demon slayer mid as fuck. Middest as fuck. My little sister can write a better story and direct it better than whatever tf the author of ds did and shes not even born yet. L. GoodnightÂ
im all seriousness no considering how hakari has lightning speed attacks while the entire DS doesnt have anything about lightning speeds, at least sukuna has FTL scaling
Sukuna wanked to shit has ftl scaling also a damaged tanjiro was dodging lightning in sword smith village arc without the slayer mark and tanjiro isnt even top 5
Anti sword technique he hasn't used since the heian era gg
That's why he had to resort to off screening my boy kusakabe đ¤
Sukuna unleashes âStrong off-screenâ and wins in one chapter, maybe four if we are lucky.
I think u/WarCrimesAreBased just hates Jujutsu Kaisen
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If yoriichi had the simple domain powers like kusakabe would he sweep the verse, yes or no
I'ma be honest I don't think he'd really need it, all he'd need is that one heaven piercing dagger
Nah he gets clapped by any domain expansion give him simple domain and he solos
aren't u able to speed blitz before domains become effective, correct me if I'm wrong
Domains take time to use, and someone would be able to react to the domain expanding. Even if someone like Gojo can do something like 0.1 second Shibuya domain
That's if he can everything in that verse scales lower so everything we're seeing in demon slayers is through the perception of regular humans, highly trained but still regular humans Even the upper moons didn't really have solid feats in comparison to 15F sukuna It's tough to really compare the two because yorichi in the JJK verse wouldn't have any cursed energy and wouldn't be able to compete with sorcerers
You don't say 'no CE no win' when power scaling â you compare abilities and feats as if they can directly compensate I haven't watched demon slayer but I don't doubt that characters would be able to react and avoid/overpower a DE
He can't see it that's the problem, he can't perceive or see anything to do with any of sukunas attacks most sorcerers with CE can't even dodge or perceive cleave/dismantle
Yes he could But anyway yoriichi perception bltizes the verse and only loses to gojo bc infinity unless we make red blades work like inverted spear via verse equalization
He has no cursed energy? He just straight can't see it? At all no one in the entire verse can see cursed energy
Give Yoriichi ISOH and he slaughters everyone before they can think of using a domain
~~Verse equalize red blades and inverted spear~~
EasyÂ
Gojo still stomps him lol
Probably but thats like, it. And thatâs mostly because yoriichi cant get past infinity
It wouldnât help him against full power Sukuja either because heâs way too durable. Yoriichiâs problem is that his sword is only effective because it negs demon regen. But demons arenât particularly durable.
Demons are extremely durable? Especially muzan, the mf yoriichi completely obliterated. And they only cancel regen when they behead someone, you can still regen everywhere else. I think the swords are more extensions of the user rather than the tools that allow them to damage kn their own. Thats why tanjiro was able to cut that big ass boulder in half, even though most people wouldnât have been able to do so without breaking a katana. Hell with what we seen in the show they might just be normal swords that kill demons on beheading (and change color)
Not even beheading can off then permanently since demons that got a strong will can actually just straight up refuse to die like what happened to Muzan, Kokushibo and Akaza. Like I'm not saying they solo JJK and all but you gotta admit they hella durable for their build.
My point is no one in demon slayer comes close to Sukunaâs durability level. Thus Yoriich canât hurt him.
How you know that? Their durability seems pretty similar
Sukuna survived a hollow purple, an attack that casually destroyed everything in a 1 km radius and lived through it. Yoriichi isnât doing shit to him. Heâs also pretty much equal to Gojo in stats, who tanked a MS, an attack that as we saw can casually dice skyscrapers around it. Gojo tanked a stronger version. The most Yoriichi would do to Sukuna is give him some light scratches.
Wait hanami also survived a hollow purple. And hanami died from being pushed against the wall. Im pretty sure you can put a thing in front of you, move, or both I forgot what ms stands for so i cant speak for that, but gojo was definitely more physically powerful than sukuna, so putting them in the same bar is kinda unfair
Hanami got half her body vaporized by a purple and only lived because she was able to get out of the way. If she had been fully hit, there would be nothing left of her. Sukuna meanwhile tanked a stronger purple to the face and only lost an arm and two eyes. MS stands for Malevolent Shrine, itâs basically what Yorriichi did to Muzan but for an extended period of time and dozens of times stronger. Gojo was only better than Sukuna in h2h because of speed, their other stats are equal pretty much.
Nothing in demon slayer comes cose to destroying multiple city blocks, safe to say Sukuna who tanked attacks like that is able to survive anything yorichi throws at him.
Hanami survived hollow purple, he didnât tank it, sukuna tanked it, same way surving a bullet is a lot different then tanking it Put like this, that shit went straight through hanami if gojo had aimed a little to the left hanami would just be dead
Hanami died from space itself fluctuating to crush her. Gojo also used a lesser version of Hollow Purple against Hanami. The one he used against Sukuna destroyed 4km
Sukuna used domain amplification to block hollow purple. Otherwise he wouldâve been deleted, he said it himself during the fight. That said, I donât know if Yoriichi can cut through him, thatâs debatable. If he can, yoriichi would win, if he canât Sukuna would open his domain and itâs over.
That just not true, the weakest upper moon straight up destroyed a zone bigger than Sukunas domain and his neck was already harder than any of his own attacks wich the sound Pillar could cut through Just because they use swords doesn't mean they don't have a lot of attack power after all, the main villains have a Hierarchy entirely based on their strength and have been stated multiple times to have attacks just as strong or stronger than steel
Thatâs not really enough to harm or kill Sukuna tho. Proof the zone was bigger than Sukunaâs domain?
[it was 266 x 355 meters on size](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/g00885/%23:~:text%3DThe%2520Yoshiwara%2520district%2520was%2520around,by%2520a%2520large%2520central%2520gate.&ved=2ahUKEwi5qKbP-5CFAxXGD0QIHSTkDzgQFnoECBUQBQ&usg=AOvVaw07dKwSYCgMt0KS9QY3FjIR) thought wikipedia says it was almost double the size.
Destroyed how though? Over time, in a single attack? And how destroyed?
No. People keep saying he is faster but we don't have a clear speed feat or statement.
He only really need ce to imbue on his weapon
The most glazed character in Demon Slayer vs. The most glazed character in JJK.
the most glazed character of jjk is gojo, i've seen dumbasses say he could beat rimuru and goku and featherine đđđđ
Gojo has an army of fangirls and glazers irl. Therefore he transcends fiction since his army is reality. Only one who can beat him is Goku obv
âBut infinity đ¤đ¤đ¤â Planet go boom 𤯠(simple way without going in depth about the haxs each character has)
Can Goku blow up the planet? Yup, would he do it? Nah... would be funny Gojo: Haha! You can't hit me! Goku: Dang, I really can't hit him... I'm gonna pull a Vegeta. Gojo: A what now? Goku: KAMEHAME! **Meanwhile** Vegeta: Huh, I feel like something bad is going to happen, but I feel a bit proud... **Sees explosion in the distance** Vegeta: SON OF B-
blow up the planet summon namek sehnlong ask to revive everyone goku blew up except gojo gg ez
You know he can just use the evil containment wave
i also think someone scaled gojo and his Infinity, and it came to like you only need light speed to bypass it. Iâm really not sure how accurate that is I donât scale but Goku is way beyond light and so are a lot of other shonen
I mean, he's glazed for a reason. >!He negged the prime version of muzan, every demon slayer and actual demon (other than dkt) are weaker than a heavily poisoned muzan with permanent scars from yoriichi, further impeding his strength!<
"prime version of Muzan" ??????
At least the most prime he could get, since he got permanent scars after that fight, and lost most of the mass for his hearts and brains, making him much weaker
Bro got cooked so hard he lost weight
Yeah it was prime muzan, what's the problem?
I mean I guess that depends on verse equalisation and how Sukuna can be killed. Yoriichi is so much faster than anyone in jjk that he can cut sukuna in a thousand pieces like he did to Muzan before getting hit. Would that be enough to kill Sukuna? Honestly idek
What do you mean before getting hit? Yoriichi never got hit by muzan
Well ye I meant before he got a chance to be hit
Sukuna open his domain and yoriichi dies, but if yorichii can approach Sukuna fast enough then Sukuna honestly just dies (remember jjk characters have ass slash resistance and Kusakabe can cut Sukuna)
By the time Sukuna lift his hands to use the domain he is already in more pieces than kashimo
Now imagine Yoriichi with the soul splitting sword.
What tf is up with power scaling Kuskabe fought one of sukuna weakest form and was able to slash him, with the added boost from his simple domain, full powered 20 finger sukuna has some of the best durability in the entire series, Kuskabe is not an anti feat
Commas are tough
He is not much faster than jjk characters you guys need to stop thinking every character is mhs lol
Yes he is. JJK caps at MHS at best (no Sukuna didn't do a FTL feat against Kashimo), Yoriichi is much faster
He is not. None of these characters is mhs.
? There are specific calcs for this, coming from the multiple lightning dodging feats in KnY
Jjk has that too. Those calcs are never reliable. Statements > calcs
With verse equalization, either Yorichi will have cursed energy or he will be a heavenly restriction type of guy, he is already faster than allist everything in JJK but with the heavenly boost...alright idk
Ngl I think the Batter from OFF would unironically sweep the JJK verse if they could get through the infinity that Gojo has
OFF mentioned wtf is a sequel?!?!??!
/ul what is OFF?
No clue what /ul means but OFF is a RPG maker game from the early 2010's, it's an incredible game that I would recommend you play or watch someone like CoryXKenshin play, since no explanation I can give will do it justice
L is pretty close to J on the keyboard, so maybe a /unjerk typo
Nah its unlobotomy
That makes way more sense. Am I stupid?
Is he stupid?
One fuck fan
I have no idea what the ''march 3rd statement'' is, but i know that march 3rd is Bulgaria's national holiday.....
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DS fans when they realize Yorichi doesnât have any actual measurements of speed or feats and his cutting up Muzan is the equivalent of Toji stabbing Dagon a lot
That's just power scalers in general. Some are straight up delulu. Especially the goku fans
Goku fans are relatively normal compared to other fans, like Sukuna fans. I've been seeing them say shit like he beats Asta and Deku, forget beating Goku if he can't get past them.
Goku fans are absolutely not normal bruh, they're easily the worst powerscalers out of any fandom and are genuinely the most obnoxious in any of these debates.
You'd be surprised at how wrong you are.
Sure we're gonna pretend the hordes of kids spamming "but can they beat Goku though" don't exist now
That's literally mostly on YouTube and tiktok, and I see way more downplay of Goku on both.
Gege already confirmed that this was an extreme lowball of their speed and we have pre ts Hakari partially dodging Kashimo's lightning. Both Gojo and Sukuna are several blitz tiers above this.
Panda literally said kashimo Lightning is basically a Guaranteed hit you can't partially dodge something either Dodge it or not.
Yeah he doesnât dodge but he is able to react quickly enough when it gets sent into his forehead to vent the CE out of his nose so his whole brain doesnât get fried. Not exactly dodging lightning but it does show that his reaction time is close to the speed of lightning
You can. He managed to move his head out of the way sure it still hit him but it shows that he is not completely outclassed by that kind of speed
As far as I can tell he didn't dodge considering it would have been mentioned by kashimo that He actually managed to dodge it or least redirected to another part of the body.
It's undodgeable because it's homing, the point is that Hakari reacted to it.
Yes indeed! Sukuna literally point blank dodges Kashimos EM waves as well no? Not to mention this was after getting purpled in the face. Also I always figured thereâs a fair chance that Kashimoâs cursed lightning is faster than normal lightning (which would make the jump from dodging lightning to dodging light a tad less nuts even tho Gojo/Sukuna are leagues above pre ts Hakari)
scan of gege confirming he was lowballing?
It's stupid thing to say to begin with The author admits he is nerfing his verse? Then his verse wasn't as strong as people believed to begin with
No he admits that considering other feats the number he gave was quite low, he is not nerfing shit.
That's basically what nerfing is "My characters are actually stronger than what I showed them in the story but I still made their limit lower than what is supposed to be"
Stop with that lightning bs. Lightning can't even be dodge in real life, Gege doesn't know shit about science. (And no you can't react to it, lightning will strike either you move or not, the closest thing to reality that feat was is simply that Kashimo didn't intend to actually kill Hakari) anyways, let's not speed scalling with this fight, it's clearly not a good reflection of reality.
Are you stupid? This is a FICTION characters can dodge light if they want too.
Interesting.
Hasnât jjk characters done feats faster then the Mach 3 statement?
Yes, not to mention the fact that Sukuna straight up blitzes a version of Maki who slammed Naoya
Sukuna wins lmao
Kenjaku reacted to a black hole point blank which actually upscales Gojo and Sukuna so erm check mate đ¤
Honestly that statement is quite probably the weakest type of evidence. Contradicted evidence. Maki was dealing with mach 3 during the goodwill event easily with handgun ammunition being around that level w/o cursed enargy, and later on maki can face sukuna on equal footing said sukuna who feats wise at a wank is light speed but the author likely intended lightning speed with the kashimo fight. All in it's very weak downplay evidence. I ain't saying sukuna wins but this "evidence" is just silly.
Yoriichi cuz he's cool
Mach 3 is inconsistent as Gege said himself, we have Hakari and Sukuna reacting to Lightnings of Kashimo, They are characters above that speed, at the very least in reaction speed, and speed is not everything, Sukuna breathes and Yoriichi is a salad.
In regards to the speed. Sukuna literally speed blitzed maki while he was severely weakened and didn't have a functioning heart. They are characters that are much faster than Maki and Toji.
I mean Sukuna did dodge a point blank Electromagnetic Wave from Kashimo, so do with that what you will
HE dodge kashimo not the attack.
If you look at the panel you can see what looks like the beginning of a wave or pulse coming from Kashimoâs hand
At this point you need to call Arale to beat Sukuna
Akutami would downplay his characters to mach 3 and have sukuna looking like squidward after the sea bear attack dodge EM waves.
Can Yoriichi even hurt Sukuna? His sword negs demon regen but other than that Itâs not really that special.
Goku solos. Batgos negs.
Even Gege has said the Mach 3 thing was silly when we have charicters like pre ts Hakari reacting to lightning and pre awakening Maki catching bullets as well as Sukuna dodging Kashimos electromagnetic waves
I like Muzanâs final form more than Sukunaâs his just looks scarier
https://preview.redd.it/no80tog17iqc1.jpeg?width=553&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f418adfd2b59aaa42a3ceb42a8cf50cf632a8af blitz this regard
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Sukuna standing 100 metres away launching MS:
Given his feats against Muzan and comparing it to Maki's performance against Sukuna...if Yoriichi can manage not being saladed by Dismantle and MS...and can close the distance...he can damage Sukuna more than anyone has in the series so far....
Imagine thinking aim-dodging a gunshot makes you faster than the bullet.
Yoriichi when bumkuna uses malevolent kitchen (He cannot see his cursed technique)
could Sukuna even beat Kokushibo?
Bitches will say a cheetah beats a bear by speed blitzing it
i read once someone saying that the mach 3 statement was retcanon'd,true or not miwa solos
The mach 3 statement has been disproven multiple times, jjk is hypersonic without wank
***can't scale gojo against planet destroying characters*** If there is no breathable air it's really easy to cheese gojo
Oh ffs a weaker version of Maki literally out scales the âMach 3 statementâ when she catches a bullet point blank. That and the fact that Sukuna should at least be able to react to lightning when heâs fighting Kashimo
The Mach 3 thing is inconsistent with the rest of the verse ngl wiz-
pixel scalers when the mangaka just thought it looked cool:
Ah yes, my âSpeed Equalizedâ Technique I havenât used since using VS battles as a source
Outerversal Yoriichi solosÂ
Yoriichi after he cuts off sukunas head only for sukuna to regenerate and hit him with a malevolent shrine (malevolent shrine is faster than some bum ass sexist cursed sprit) https://preview.redd.it/39kgzxhi1lqc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=121a93b0e98c795e3bd6adcbb1d90683a6a7e8de
Sukuna negs Yoriichii
Demon slayer fans when you say that the physical properties the vfx would have if they actually existed don't apply to scaling.
yoriichis blade is red cause its literally hot
People actually thought sukuna or gojo were planetary???
Sukuna i could see, i mean he did slash literally the world and space itself and cut through an infinite mass
Sukuna slams
Kny verse is not that fast either lol. Anyway sukuna wins.
Mach three Maki
Tbh JJk universe is so weird to scale
Sukuna oneshots using the slash Yoriichi canât see.
Sukuna is faster than curse naoya simple and has sure hit anyway + longer range he still slams
Ok but domain expansion
Imma be real, demon slayers are just regular highly trained people with a somewhat supernatural ability that kills them at 25 top of the verse can't even conceive basic level curses
A demon who isnât even an upper moon is easily large city block level and the weakest upper moon destroyed the entire entertainment district stop down playing ds characters just because you believe jjk is the greatest thing to exist
You mean how Gyutaro had to die to blow up the Entertainment District? Reminds me of how Yuki turned into a black hole after she got hit by Kennyâs small Uzumaki
Gyutaro did that as a last resort after getting his head cut off
And he didnât even die to the explosion
He died before the explosion lmao, he got decapitated then his head disappeared, and then his body blew up
He died after did you just skip anything after the explosion
Ig I forgot lol, anyways that explosion was nothing compared to a black hole
And that black hole is the best thing jjk has
Yet Kenny was able to block itđ
That was plot armor đ
There is an immense difference between any damage caused in demon slayers and shibuya let alone how much damage was done during the shinjuku showdown Power=/=good demon slayers story, worldbuilding and character writing is league's beyond JJK so it is just objectively the better piece of manga but trying to scale these two in a fight is not ideal, truth is all those demons, lost to regular people, trained people but regular people nonetheless none of those slayers had actual powers kokushibo, akaza all of them died to regular swordsmen None of them besides the demons would be able to tank any of sukunas slashes, and the demons would definitely not be able to escape being atomized by either Malevolent shrine or sukunas flames And I'll remind you mahoraga has at least equivalent if not greater levels of healing then muzan considering everything he went through against sukuna
I donât think x ray Vision and being able to magically summon a scar on yourself which then proceeds to massively boost your physical capabilities a normal person thing
Sorry they have a relative bump in stats that kills them at 25
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Can any of the demon slayers core completely atomize 30 Miles of land in an instant
Can jjk characters cross a whole mountain in Less then a millisecond
Yes
No stop wanking them
I forgot to mention being able to sniff where to cut become way stronger by breathing and fight while asleep
Tanjiro's first feat was cutting through a boulder larger than he was. Even after years of training afterward the hashira were too fast for him to see and effortlessly decapitated demons that took him levels of exertion so extreme it almost caused his death to even harm. The very first thing the protagonist did is something no human in history could ever achieve, while being not a single iota of the power that characters who get fodderized by the power ceiling exert casually. Ds is a far more powerful verse than you're making it out to be.
Demon Slayer power scaling makes no sense
Sukuna can actually be shown to be SOL-FTL if you push it
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:LIFE_OF_KING/Jujutsu_Kaisen_-_Finger_Bearer_evaporates_a_cave 15F Sukuna speed: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Totiseda/JJK:_15F_Sukuna_Speed Now using the 5x multiplier because it was 15 fingers we get 565,185 Mach Also speed feats from other characters: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Totiseda/Jujutsu_Kaisen:_Speed_Calculations https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:LIFE_OF_KING/Jujutsu_Kaisen_-_Todo_creates_an_imagination_in_0.01_seconds https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:BreezeHM/Sukuna_Intercepts_Electromagnetic_Waves In conclusion: I need to go outside, also take this as you will
well doing calculations, muzan out scales both gojo and sukuna as daki alone took out a chunk of the whole entertainment district with a single attack meaning the higher the rank the more powerful meaning muzan can be scaled to planetary but as for this, idk who wins this but the only reason muzan can't beat gojo and sukuna is due to hollow purple but muzan could break infinity with, again, speed calculations, so erm actually >!demon king tanjiro solos!<
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what bout the 3rd option? What about it being semi-bait while it's also factual? đ¤¨
How does he break infinity with speed tho??
light speed attacks and attacks that cut through space both can break infinity, muzan is much much faster then bullets and such and his attacks are also much faster then anyone would think
But light speed attacks don't break infinity, if you say this because light itself touches gojo that's because he himself let's it go through but in a fight even if he can't perceive an attack he will keep infinity up for anything thats not light and air so i don't see how lightspeed would surpass infinity since anything with a travel time from a point A to B will be infinitely slowed down by gojo
Imma be real with you chief if muzan had those powers everyone would be dead in demon slayer they're all just highly trained swordsmen author confirmed
Bait used to be believable
it's only half bait but actually looking into it, sukuna wouldn't win against characters like muzan
Muzan lost to a bunch of slightly powered up but still human swordsmen.....there are no actual powers outside of the demons in demon slayers all the water and fire effects we see are just that effects for our entertainment Malevolent shrine atomizes everything gg no re
you do know >!yorichi did worse!< then malevolent shrine and muzan was fine right? Your ignoring the whole regen thing and those human swordsman only >!**won because muzan was heavily prisoned** !<
absolutely didn't Malevolent shrine atomized shibuya
and? again, won't do much since muzan only has 2 weaknesses and sukuna doesn't have access to either one
Well considering the fact that cursed energy is a supernatural ability and not something muzans equipped to handle we can both agree being turned to dust via giant fireball or infinite slashes will kill him If there's nothing to regenerate from he can't regenerate
fire only slightly slows regen , it doesn't stop it completely, please read the manga and cursed energy isn't doing much when it comes to sukuna because again, not a single one of his attacks are the literal sun, fire only slows regen, it doesn't stop it completely and this was shown in the anime and manga multiple times and muzan is quite literally equipped to deal with anything sukuna could throw at him as again, sukuna doesn't have access to a single one of muzan's weaknesses
Yeah but again if there isn't a single piece of you left to regenerate after being hit by a veritable nuke you aren't regenerating You're underscaling feats here to serve your own narritive, he didn't just destroy shibuya he reduced it to literal nothing, he atomized and erased every last thing for miles, he didn't just blow up the entertainment district there was nothing left but a crater
Nah, we know that but like... Never power scale again
Sukuna is the strongest character in all of fiction https://preview.redd.it/o6ay6p916jqc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ecaa866ecdc9f843764d1621b032737897282a9
Yorichi or whatever overwanked and mid. Demon slayer mid as fuck. Middest as fuck. My little sister can write a better story and direct it better than whatever tf the author of ds did and shes not even born yet. L. GoodnightÂ
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What do you think
im all seriousness no considering how hakari has lightning speed attacks while the entire DS doesnt have anything about lightning speeds, at least sukuna has FTL scaling
Sukuna wanked to shit has ftl scaling also a damaged tanjiro was dodging lightning in sword smith village arc without the slayer mark and tanjiro isnt even top 5
"wanked to shit" you mean highball? at worst? because as far as im aware ds doesnt even have SOL scaling lol
And neither does jjk
it does have ftl scaling for sukuna tho?
No it doesn't, Sukuna is not FTL. Saying he is fucks up so much of JJK.
sukuna has ftl scaling, no it doesnt fuck up a thing in jjk
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great argument, i will totally change my mind with this
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