Unprofessional? Homie you got a whole ass person with probably nothing better to do than hang out with a friend while they drive. If they do debate about politics it’s not that bad lol. Annoying sure but I find it hard to have expectations of people being professional when they paid like 20% of what the passenger pays them
It's 80% but yea it's still close to minimum wage once you add up the gas you pay for, car maintenance, and the insane amount of taxes you will have to pay at end of year. It's just not worth it at all.
fogetabouit .Not to mention entrapment traffic cameras in places like DC with 200$ ticket in the mail per infraction.They are like everwhere in DC .Driving Uber/Lift is only good till you get another job.
Against policy and grounds to revoke the drivers ability to work for Lyft. Part of the social agreement with ride sharing is that you know you’re being picked up by a licensed driver who has passed a criminal background check. Not some “friend” who’s a stranger
That’s funny because I just had a ride where the girl was the one picking me up and the guy was driving. I don’t care but I could see that being a problem for some.
Okay, I am wrong. I got approved so quickly I didn't believe they could do a complete check in that amount of time. That's rough--a misdemeanor from over 20 years ago.
Against policy for sure. I once had two dudes pick me up and it was dead silence for the 30 minute ride. I could see the driver constantly looking at me through the rear view. Definitely an uncomfortable ride.
Would have loved to be in your situation!
I had one with a boyfriend and girlfriend that were fighting. He was the driver and the girlfriend was apparently there to make sure he didn’t fuck anyone. They kept making jokes between themselves about white people (am white). It was a shitty ride.
I don’t understand why you would get into the car knowing they aren’t supposed to have another person to begin with. That would be so dangerous and uncomfortable as a rider. As a driver, I understand why it would be safer to have a second person. It really is a no-win situation.
From this frequent riders perspective, it is against policy. For starters, it’s distracting for the passenger — I prefer to ride with some mellow music or silence, so two people talking for a longer ride would annoy me for sure.
Also, Lyft standard I think says up to 4 passengers. If there is someone in the front seat, that’s a problem, unless you’re in a minivan.
Also, from a safety standpoint, the driver has been background checked. The passenger probably hasn't. Everything you mentioned is the icing on the cake. It's against policy, it takes up a seat. If it wasn't against policy and the driver told me in advance, I might feel differently but the fact that she just expected the OP to be fine with it with no forewarning...that's arrogant.
Just to play devil's advocate, in regards to the background check it's not like Lyft passengers get background checked before they're allowed to use the platform. How is it fair to expect the drivers to put themselves at risk? There's been multiple videos showing passengers attacking drivers.
That's my point. If a customer is paying for a service, the emphasis for safety is going to be for the customer
They paid. If you get into a car where the driver is already breaking policy, what else are they willing to do? Who's the person in the passenger seat? I don't know, don't want to find out.
War in Ukraine, war in Israel, gas prices sky high, murder, rape and famine in the world and you're prayers are for people who reply on Reddit. Who needs to touch grass?
That exact thing happened just 2 miles from my house (Tacoma, Wa) a couple weeks ago. Lady stabbed an elderly ride share driver (can't remember if uber/lyft etc) *with a fucking axe*, near Point Defiance 😳
The original post was about women. It would be one thing if the driver were a guy. Girls should stay in groups of two in my opinion. I have no issue w them bringing along a co Pilot if it makes them feel safe. Isn’t that the top priority? Say the riders are a whole crew and there isn’t room, simply unassign oneself as the driver for the ride.
Maybe I'm not understanding what you mean when you say "it would be one thing if the driver were a guy...". I don't see how the argument on either side should be dictated by gender. I'm not sure if you are a driver or if you are familiar with Lyft and Uber, but technically we aren't allowed to have weapons in the car as well. I've disagreed with this for years, but I'm not going to brazenly flaunt a weapon on my front seat. In this story, it appears the friend never identified herself and never added any context "Hi, my name is ****, I'm [driver's name] friend and I'm just here for safety". None of that. Nobody here still knows who that person was. And if you or somebody else wants to start a company similar to Lyft/Uber and initiate the two person rule, go ahead. It still doesn't justify the driver in this specific story.
Here's a simple clue...when you are the only one doing something and that thing happens to be against a law or policy or social standards, it's probably a good reason why nobody else is doing it. Know wut I mean, dawg?
You should read Lyft's terms of service before acting like you know the policy and treating people like they're stupid for disagreeing with you. Having a passenger not provided/assigned by Lyft during a Lyft ride is not barred by their policies in any way, and section 19 clearly explains that Lyft does not and can not control how a driver operates their vehicle or business. Additionally, your social norms are not someone else's social norms, and nobody is legally or morally required to follow anyone else's standards.
Edit: I was wrong, see below.
So, I went and read the TOS, and it does seem to be prohibited.
[https://www.lyft.com/terms](https://www.lyft.com/terms)
Section 10:
You will not engage in reckless behavior while driving or otherwise providing Rideshare Services, drive unsafely, operate a vehicle that is unsafe to drive, **permit an unauthorized third party to accompany you in the vehicle while providing Rideshare Services**,
That's interesting. Maybe I should take my own advice. That line is new since my last read-through while I was driving a couple years ago, and section 19 has changed making it a lot more vague. I did scan the new terms before making my comment but that was mostly to get the number for the 'relationship with Lyft' section, so I missed the changes. I suspect that specific line would be considered unenforceble if anyone had the desire and resources to take it through arbitration and ultimately court (if it got that far), but that's purely speculation. Calling them a copilot, intern, or employee should technically make them not a third party, rather they would be part of the 'business', but the language in section 19 that used to specifically point out that Lyft can't control employees and business partners of the Driver has been removed/replaced with something much more vague.
I'll leave my previous comment up, the only reason to significantly edit or delete it would be to hide my hypocrisy.
Great point. I own a company, and as long as my girlfriend is an employee of that company, and that company is driving for Lyft, then I can have her operate as my co-pilot, according to these terms.
You're something else. I have no need or desire to apologize, I haven't treated anyone here poorly. You on the other hand....
Edited to add: You couldn't even refute my comment until someone else did the research to do it for you. I feel like this situation as a whole says a lot more about you than it does me.
That's amazing. You reply to me trying to act holier than thou and then you misread, misinterpret and misquote the terms of service and you're not going to apologize. Now, someone who reads your post thinks it's OK to ride with an unauthorized party, carry weapons in their car, etc etc. Now, if they want to break policy, that's their decision. But don't go around saying it's not against policy because you misread something while (ironically) trying to educate me.
if we want to argue safety.. our riders don't have background checks. so why should the drivers backgrounds matter at this point? ive been attacked and had all kinds of crazy in my riders over the last 8 years. I have a clean background but have to pickup people and we never get to see their profile pic, actual name and they have no background checks for riders.. I guess as a driver we are less of a person so we don't deserve to have our riders also checked.
Doesn’t Lyft have both the drivers’ AND riders’ information in case anything happens?
Isn’t the issue that normally they have the information of both parties in the car, but now a totally unknown third party is being introduced?
When you have to pay the customers to ride in your vehicle, you can ask for background checks...
Edit - But if being a driver is that dangerous for you, find a different gig. There are plenty that don't require you to interact in close quarters with the customer. And you are required to do a background because we as customers are paying for the ride and agreeing to allow someone we don't know to have our safety in their hands.
does the courthouse have to pay you to get your information and search you for weapons?
Does a cna get paid to get their live scan done just so they can be certified?
Do I get paid to get a cpr license and maintain it?
no.. so what you said is stupid.. I shouldn't have to pay a rider for them to have a background check. I pay for my vehicle and I am selling them my time, my gas, my energy. So I am technically their employee and last time I checked a employer is supposed to provide legal info and have traceable accreditation to run a company including their own LLC or at the very least a dba. So don't comment nonsense.
you pay for the ride to have someone take you around. You don't pay me to take you around, you pay uber to have uber pay someone else give you a ride. and I pay Uber to offer a ride to you. we both pay Uber. So I should have equal rights to you because my safety is just as important as yours. or more so, I am the one taking the risk of getting car jacked and robbed, not you. lol
freaking idiot. shut that stupidity the hell up. 🤣
Should fast food restaurants have customers provide background checks in order to gain access and order food? Crazy/dangerous people go in there and harrass/assault employees. You're the idiot. How are you our employee when you are contracted with the company to drive? 🤣
Seeing you get defensive because you are being told to find a different job if you don't feel safe working the one you are in now is the icing on the cake. Sounds like the frustration from realizing you cant do better. It's a shame that you feel that way but I'm okay with it. It's very satisfying knowing YOU know you aren't going to do anything differently and/or succeed. LMAO
Edit - and your "wish" is moronic. Since you are the type that needs to have a point shoved into your face...
what I said 100% went over your tiny little brain about who is the employee.. let me know when you catch up and understand what I was getting at..
and lol saying that I can't do better.. now that's hilarious.
I'm a mechanical electrical engineer and work as a QA on the side. I am also a music producer and metal artist... you dweeb. 🤣 So wherever you got the idea that I can't do better or succeed is hilarious. and of the two of us. I'm the only one here that can backup anything I claim to show that I'm a someone with a future. Go pet your grass you weak little vegetarian.. 🤣
I can easily send you proof of my credentials for accountability. take your nobody ass on some where. 🤣
It's not my imagination dictating anything -- it appears in their posted guidebook:
[https://www.lyft.com/hub/posts/guidebook](https://www.lyft.com/hub/posts/guidebook)
The third item down says:
**Free up every seat** While we’d all love to bring our buddies, please don’t bring friends or family along when giving rides. Most regulators require anyone transporting passengers to pass a background check. You may also have all seats full on any given ride.
I'm not a lawyer, but this to me says don't bring your friends, and that in most cases you bringing them may violate the regulatory requirements requiring them to have passed a background check since they are with you in the car, and then goes on to say that that you may have all seats full. Every regular lift shows 4 passengers for me, which typically means 3 seats (with seatbelts) in the back and one in the front-passenger seat.
I’m a middle-aged business traveler, so I don’t want to hear other people’s conversations when I am in the car. I think Lyft also has a policy against driver use of their cellphones during rides. I don’t mind if someone has a quick and critical call come in, and whenever that’s happened, the driver has apologized and/or explained and I said “I understand, no worries” (and I’ve not held it against them).
My one experience with someone else in the car was a pickup at LAX where the driver was brand new, and their friend who was more experienced was giving them pointers of what to do — greet the passenger, start the ride, wish the passenger well, end the ride, etc. I was fine with this.
It’s should be against policy for riders to have loud conversations ON SPEAKER PHONE. This is a regular occurrence for me and I fking hate it.
It’s rude, distracting and completely unnecessary. If you need to yap so much, buy a good pair of headphones and keep it down.
I mark all these riders as “rude” and give them 1 star.
It is annoying but I always have my own head set to put on when I don’t want to hear it. Who does that speaker phone nonsense is a special kind of person. And apparently there’s a lot of them.
Why do you rate them poorly? It's annoying and something I would not personally do, but you are providing a service to move people from point A to B. Restrictions on activities that affect the vehicle like eating make sense, however I think dictating the noise volume of passengers, whether they are talking person or in the phone, is too far. Every job has great customers and those that aren't so great. Personally I am very polite and respectful to drivers, staying rather quiet and gently closing doors. Ultimately in my view it is not the job of the rider to serve the driver, the rider is paying for the service. The riders should need to adhere to certain guidelines, like those involving safety of the driver and vehicle, as well as potential damage to the vehicle I personally do not think talking on the phone or voice volume is a reasonable restriction.
As a driver, if you do the slightest thing wrong, people will rate you low… and they don’t give a crap about your ability to earn a living.
Bet you don’t care about that.
If you are actually bad at the job, you will notice your ratings going down and you have time to make adjustments if you want to keep your job.
It goes both ways. If someone is going to be disrespectful and distracting to the point of making the ride unsafe… They should be made to know that their bad behavior will not be tolerated.
When two people are talking over each other at a very loud volume and one of those voices is through a speakerphone cranked all the way up… It’s very f’n distracting.
I’m talking about conversations so loud that I can’t hear the GPS directions. This forces me to rely on looking at the map… Which involves me taking my eyes off the road more often than I normally would. This is dangerous.
It was so loud I had to put in my own AirPods, and turn on noise cancellation. I could still hear them, and now I can’t hear the natural sounds of traffic. This is dangerous.
Just the other day I picked up a doctor from his country club. He was in a group meeting with other physicians, talking about patients with the speakerphone cranked all the way up. It’s technically a HIPAA violation.
Do you want your doctor blabbing about your private health information in front of a stranger? What if this person ended up being someone you knew? These people need to invest in some AirPods at the very least.
If I give them a one star rating, when they earn it. Maybe they will think twice about their obnoxious behavior. A single one star rating won’t prevent them from using the service, but it may encourage them to be more respectful instead of entitled.
Why don’t you tell me how this isn’t fair? Do you think people should be completely unaccountable for their poor behavior?
I mean, the chances of them looking in their ratings and realizing that their random one star is from that time they talked on the phone is super slim.
I have one random one star and I have no idea what I did to piss the driver off or even what ride it was from.
Then maybe more people should do it, and not be afraid or act like they have a boss.
Seems like the mentality of a defeated employee to let people walk all over you and do whatever they please.
At the end of the day for each driver… It is their own business.
It’s up to each person to decide who they will do business with. This “customer is always right” bullshit… Is just that.
Technically, they're paying for the service of privacy by taking a service. They aren't on a bus or a train, where privacy is an issue. They are the customer, paying for a comfortable, PRIVATE ride. Your comfort is the least of their concerns. Their comfort should be your main concern. I suggest doordash or ubereats if you want silence from your PAYING passengers. Business people sometimes need to take impromptu calls. I'd be damned if i told a million dollar client that i couldn't talk because I'd make my driver upset. For the duration of the ride, as long as im respectful, it's technically like you rented your car out, w you as the driver.
If you were in my ride acting out like a petulant child or trying to come across as a “big deal“ just because you’re materialistic and entitled… You’d be telling the person on the other end of the phone about how I kicked you out of my ride.
After that… I would mark you as “rude” and give you one star.
Then, because of my 5-Star “Elite” status… I would talk to somebody at Lyft, explain the situation… And it would not affect me in the least.
That’s the reality. Deal with it.
So, taking a call from a client - from the job paying them that in turn pays you - is acting like any of this? No, it's called a job. I pay you to drive so i can speak with clients, if need be. If you want silence, deliver food instead of interacting with/driving people.
You have the mentality of an idiot, victim, slave… And talk about “reading comprehension”… You’re still not getting the point. Go back and read again… This time pay attention.
You might “pay me to drive”… But that doesn’t absolve you of all human decency and responsibility. If you don’t think so… You’re a narcissistic sociopath.
Never heard of the “right to refuse service“?
You are an entitled, narcissistic sociopath. It would be my pleasure to kick you out of my ride. 🥰
Are you saying you’re incapable of talking with an indoor voice either directly into your phone or with headphones on?
That is the essence of what I posted… In case you weren’t paying attention.
I don’t give a 💩 people are on their phone speaking at a respectful volume. You are capable of making distinction between “respectful volume“ and LOUD distracting volume creating unnecessary risk, aren’t you?
No one has ever had to ask me to turn down my music, I can assess the situation and create an appropriate environment.
if you’re a passenger and your driver is playing, super loud music… Wouldn’t you consider it disrespectful if they didn’t turn it down?
Do you think the driver has to eat shit just because the entitled, unconscious passenger is acting a fool? If so, you are against humanity and fairness.
If certain riders had the same appreciation that they were in a confined space with another human being, it wouldn’t be a problem. Especially considering they are basically a “guest“ in another person‘s property.
You sound like a guilty, entitled sociopath, who happens to be anti-worker. Also seems you think there are exceptions to human decency.
What are these exceptions to human decency floating around in your head? 🤔
I lost interest after the first paragraph. Your tirade of responses tells us EVERYTHING we need to know about your false sense of self-importance. Again, want silence? Deliver food or find another job 🤷🏼♀️
I did see you write "guest in your car." WRONG. You're essentially my employee, for that car ride, who happens to be using their vehicle. It's all within the transaction of you being paid to be a driver. You're not their bestie or neighbor giving them a ride out of the kindness of your heart. You're being paid to drive. That's it.
No… Retard. It’s a privilege for you to be in my vehicle. If you act up, I’m kicking you the F out.
It must be your stone brain that prevents you from understanding what entitled, narcissist means. That is you, retard.
Maybe get a backbone. You don’t make any more money for putting up with bullshit. What the hell is a “million dollar client” in a ride-share? 😂😂😂
Sort of pathetic that you would allow someone with money to treat you like dirt. People should be judged on the content of their character… Not how much money they have.
You get paid the same rather they make minimum wage or they’re a billionaire.
Why not rate them down? If the driver is being rude and making passengers uncomfortable they should know that. Drivers that are t rude and making passengers uncomfortable will be rated highly.
I certainly don’t think 1 star is appropriate but neither is 5.
I mean it’s not appropriate when the driver is minorly annoying by talking loudly on the phone or driving with a passenger. If they do something unsafe or extremely offensive, sure, go low…
Being in a lift with a copilot after spending 3 hours at the airport, 3-6 hours on a flight, and another 30-60 minutes to leave the airport; then 50 minutes of driving? Fuck. No. If you don't work travel regularly, say 10 out of every month of business days, probably doesn't seem like much to deal with.
When you're constantly stressed with travel + the job? Fuck no. I need those 50 minutes in that Uber/lyft/taxi to be peaceful and quiet. It's typically the most relaxing part of the travel, and I need that before getting down to business.
The only time I had an issue with a driver taking a call was when they took 3 different phone calls in 15 minutes and in one said “no I’m not busy what’s up” like sir you are at work wtf!?!
If one of my kids calls I ask they don't mind just to make sure they're ok. Then I tell them I have a rider and if they are ok I'll call them later. Everyone has been totally cool with that. Then I get off the phone immediately. I have a huge car screen so I'm not looking at my phone or anything.
Like the above person mentioned, it's an issue because if you have 4 people and order a sedan and the driver has someone with them upfront, now they can't accommodate the correct amount of people.
If they were just doing Uber eats or DD or something it wouldn't be an issue.
Also imagine you're a lone female and it's two guys sitting upfront, would you still be comfortable "closing your eyes for 10 minutes" ?
My point? Simple. You’re being unrealistic and delusional and trying to let that dictate other peoples lives.
Do you think that’s fair?
Does the world need to pander to your insecure, paranoid narcissism?
I took the ride and talked about it the whole time to them and complained to Lyft afterwards.
It made me really, really curious like what if there were two riders? Would she cancel or would she drop one of her brothers off at the pickup location? And they didn’t seem to think too much about that. Are her brothers that disposable?
I’m guessing they were already headed somewhere and she turned it on to try to get some cash on the way. No other way I’d see a driver and three people in the car riding around to pick people up. Thats way too many. That’s kind of wild lol
Many will think it is no problem, until there is an accident. The copilot is NOT insured for anything. I do understand two women, but then what happens if the driver gets a ride with 4 people?
Its a false sense of security as I as a male driver cannot do anything against someone with a gun or knife that is sitting behind me. You would end up with two victims instead of one. just my thoughts.
I sort of get it, I’m a woman and I’d not feel super comfortable being alone with a man in my car. Hense- bring a friend. Being a customer alone with 2 dudes? Sus.
That said, as a customer I’m fine with being alone with a male driver lol. I think it’s a question of volume? Like if I take 1 Lyft per month the chances of something shady happening is low. But if I’m giving like 20 rides a day that changes the equation for me
So on some cities they have shared Lyft rides but a friend or extra person in the car other then the driver in a not shared ride will get them deactivated since that person didn't pass the same background check as the driver it's a safety issue and that's an easy way for bad things to happen like being trafficked
A driver once had a puppy in the passenger seat during my ride. I loved it lol but the driver also stopped for gas during the ride, and I've never had that happen before. I wasn't in a rush, but it just seems against policy lol
There's probably something before going online that the driver needs to click saying that they have enough fuel, the car is in a clean, drivable state, etc. before taking rides. But I can imagine after a couple hours of rides, if they are coming in consistently, that the driver comes upon a low fuel warning during a ride, and also drives by their favored gas station, then they would get gas there. Did they ask you if it was alright? Or did they just pull in and put gas in without hesitation?
It's not a taxi. There's no checklist before you get in your car. They expect you to know what to do I guess. But you should definitely have gas. And if you know you're going to need gas you need to stop between rides. The only exception I would say is if you're in the middle of a bonus run and one of your rides is super long but then I would have to ask the passenger first.
Weird. When I drove for UberEats a couple years ago, it asked if you had your car fueled up, phone charged, food bag handy, and I don't remember if it was every time I went online or just often, but I also had to take a selfie to verify that it was me before going online. And I pretty much agree with you, 99% of the time, you shouldn't have to worry about getting gas on a ride, but for that 1%, you should ask the passenger first
Yeah, she did ask! I didn't report it. I think the reason is because it was going to be an hour drive into the city. She probably wanted to avoid the higher gas prices.
It’s your car, but Lyfts platform. If you don’t feel safe driving at night by yourself, you should probably just stick to day time driving. I refuse to take a Lyft or Uber with anyone but the driver. I report it every time it happens to me, which thankfully is rare
There are definitely some good points here. How many of you have cameras in the vehicle? I think almost everyone I’ve taken do have them.
Back to the liability question above, that does make total sense.
Ok last question… if you got in the car and there was a pilot and co-pilot do you just cancel the trip and report ?
As a pax I only had one ride in 7 years where there was someone else and she introduced her sister and it was chill. I would not always be ok with that, though. Once, a guy had his small child in the front seat and I felt uncomfortable for the kid's safety during rush hour but I needed the ride and it was clear he was brand new and needed the fare. Another time, the driver rolled down their window and explained as they were pulling up why their car was different than in their bio and it was fine.
As a driver I got a camera and started strategizing my customer interactions before I took my first trip. As a woman I know how to use all of my safety tools properly and I would not put passengers in the position of getting into a car with an unexpected third person.
You’d love me as a Driver. I don’t bring a co-pilot but I speak to the imaginary one the whole ride. The Netflix playing on my iPad is for the imaginary co-Pilot so you don’t have to worry about me being distracted.
I have only ever asked or needed to fuel once with a passenger and I asked and she was totally fine. There isn’t enough access on the app. It’s took black and white. They need us to do more. We cant change addresses for people who clearly are tech disabled.. or add stops on their behalf. Maybe it’s a safety thing. But I find weekly issues with this and it becomes annoying because we can’t do anything about it. We’re highly limited and overused. There is no driver advantage
yeah I once had a lady driver and her grandma was the passenger. It was late at night and thought probably brought her along for safety because she literally had an oxygen tank.
I dont know what to do in the situation but it’s definitely against policy as I was a driver at one time.
I once had a Lyft pick me up at DFW and she had her 8 year old daughter in the front seat. I didn’t think anything of it. She can’t make money if she has to pay for a babysitter while driving.
Like I said before I probably would have been comfortable. I didn’t know the policy, and that’s why I started the thread.
With that being said, I am 6’5 255. The only thing I usually feel uncomfortable with is the size of the car.
I could definitely see though where people some people could fear for their safety.
On another note: I really feel it’s way more dangerous for the driver right? You have no idea who or what group you’re picking up.
“If so…it shouldn’t be.”
Yea, it absolutely should be. The person has not been background checked. And two…I’m going to take a wild guess that you aren’t a woman?
It already is scary for us to get in cars with strangers. We rely on Lyft to make sure those people are at least background checked. And even then drivers are constantly creeps. Which is why I now only use the “woman only” version. And our chances are much better escaping from one person than 2.
I had a driver pull up a month or so ago and had a man in the passenger seat. I refused to get in and reported them. It’s not okay.
It’s crazy out here I wish they can give you an option to have a friend with you I heard so many stories about drunk people and sexual harassment and also people getting into shootouts
That sounds way more lovely than what I imagined.
The one time I had a driver with a co-pilot, it was a guys gf and he told my gf and I that they never get to see each other because they work so much so she sometimes joins him. It would have been cute had she not stayed dead silent the whole ride. It did not feel like they were actually in a relationship.
Not really, it’s a safety thing. The driver has gone through a background and safety check, but this passenger hasn’t and we don’t know who this person is. No Karen at all here.
Yes it is against policy. But there are times where when I have my wife in the car, and we are going a good distance, I may turn on Lyft, and set the filter to pick up rides on the way. If a ride pops up, I would text and let them know the situation. If they were uncomfortable with it, I would cancel.
But that has never happened.
F36 driver of five years. I really wish it actually was allowed! There have been a few occasions that I've had a ride along.
#1 it was starting to snow and my 50F friend I'd been hanging out with didn't want me to leave yet. So we stayed together so she could coach me on driving and so if anything happened when I didn't have a rider I wouldn't be stuck by myself (there would also be another body to push if necessary)
#2 a friend who refused to let me go back to work. Insisted on riding along. I think she was also curious what it was like. Ended up that everyone I tried to pick up had four people so I had to cancel three rides, I got one ride, but missed all the surge pricing I was chasing anyway.
#3 I rode with a friend who had just started driving. She felt like she wasn't using the AP to it's potential and wanted help driving.
#4 again a (different) friend didn't want me to leave and was very curious what the driving was like.
All the times were fine. I would announce upon arrival what was going on because people are always surprised when someone is in the front seat (of course they would be!) it was kinda nice to take the pressure off of me. Mostly my copilot would say hello and the two would chat. A couple times it was clear people didn't want to talk. I have a go-to two try rule and after that I leave them be. The second try is out of politeness for those of us awkward peeps who might need a second probe to come out of their shell.
I was very stressed because I was worried I'd be deactivated, but at least no one got mad at me. Have heard of other F drivers having someone along for safety. I think Lyft should allow this and allow us to say there are only three seats available and only link us to people getting 3 or less riders.
Yeah, it's against policy. (And for good reason) If we lived in a better society, it wouldn't, but people are gonna "people," regardless. Besides, all seats need to be available. 🙄
One time my lyfts boyfriend kidnapped her at knife point and was forcing her to drive around picking up rides. I would imagine he was in control of her bank account and taking the money for himself. He had the knife to her the whole time I was in the back seat, he had it under a t shirt pressed up against her side. At one point he grabbed the steering wheel while we were going about 45-50mph and jerked it hard to his side of the car. I asked them to stop at a gas station so I could use the atm, I went inside had the worker at the gas station call 911, I walked up to her side of the car reached in the window turned the ignition off pulled the keys out and then pulled my pistol out and stood in front of the car with the gun pointed at his head through the front windshield until the police showed up.
Yeah. It shouldn’t be against policy. What if a mom has nowhere for her kid to go and needs to work? It’s true, the driver having their own passenger in the front does make it feel a lot more comfortable.
I once called a ride kind of late leaving my ex BF’s friend’s house , my ex walked me out to meet the driver. My driver was in a dark colored car with music blasting at an astronomical volume. He had a sketchy passenger guy with his hood up and when he pulled up in front of us and rolled down the windows smoke was literally blasting out . My ex took one look in and told him to cancel the trip. Scary to think I’d even get in that car by myself.
You didn't order a lyft share ride did you? Too many times I've had passengers surprised that there's another passenger in the car, or that I'm picking up someone else cause they didn't know what lyft or uber share was
It absolutely should be and here’s why: Lyft rides are for up to 4 people.
I’ve been in an awkward scenario where I and three others needed a ride, called a Lyft, and the person showed up with a co-pilot. They tried to get me to cancel the ride. Then, they told me they were going to press that they’d picked me up and start driving. I told them they were welcome to it and called an Uber :/
It’s a shame that the vehicle is the drivers and not Lyfts. It might matter what Lyft policy was on the subject. I love private contractors they can authorize whomever they wish to be there.
I have my puppy with my sometimes when I drive. To put my front seat out of use 😂 and it’s not uncommon I’ve taken rides before where a friend tagged alone. Some women don’t feel safe or probably had an uncomfortable experience so has someone drive with them.
One reason I’ve been a Lyft rider for so long, is that one of the first Ubers I used (also sharing with other passengers to save a buck at the time)
This couple started arguing next to me and one of them even opened the car door while driving. Shit was wild. They were both drunk and arguing about one of them getting hit on
I can understand wanting to have someone with you for safety reasons.
Someone is less likely to tey something when there are 2 people there instead of just one
Had one in Vegas when Lyft first started with a "trainer". We'd ordered a Lyft for 4 people... in a 5 person vehicle... the math doesn't work. Stood there for like 5 minutes staring at the lady before the driver just put us all in the back seat. Guess they didn't want to be the one to cancel.
If genders were reversed in this situation you would not feel comfortable getting in a car with an unknown passenger picking you up. Even with genders as is those women could’ve been setting you up to get robbed or worse. If it isn’t against policy it should be. Also what if it had been you and three buddies and someone was going to need to sit in the front seat? How would that have worked out?
I mean but that rule could easily get pushed… well, why can’t I Lyft and have my crying baby in the front seat? Why can’t I also drive my dog around while I Lyft? Idk slippery slope in my eyes
It's such bullshit. LYFT will throw up to 3 fuckin strangers in your car at one time (to maximize profit).
But when a female driver wants to feel safe driving G at night, so she brings a friend... Nope... Against policy. LYFT fuckin sucks...
My husband and I are both registered drivers for Lyft and used to "team drive" sometimes for my safety and because having 2 cellphones available in the car in case of an emergency is nice.
For the people who say "well what if it was 4 passengers", I didn't let any passengers ride in front with me anyway so that was not a valid concern for me. I don't care if Lyft says I can take 4 passengers, it is my car and if I'm not comfortable with a stranger sitting close to me in the front seat,I don't have to let them sit there.
This exact thing actually happened to me a few nights ago. I hit a pothole and it blew my tire out. Happened to be right in front of a tire shop and it was about 10 at night so I figured I’d leave my car there and come back in the morning to get it replaced.
Called a Lyft and a pair of women show up. Threw me off at first but they were both totally cool. It seemed like it would be safer for them and they kept up the bulk of the conversation so I was cool with just sitting and listening. Made the ride seem quick and it was probably the most comfortable ride I’ve had.
Took a Lyft back the next morning and got an awkward guy who I really couldn’t understand because of his accent. He wasn’t rude but he wasn’t welcoming either. I preferred the two women way more. I’m a man if that makes any difference.
It’s absolutely against policy, it should be, and you should be reporting it. First of all, we’re supposed to be able to carry four passengers, and that doesn’t leave room for a friend. Second, drivers are background checked, and their friends are not. And no matter how well you know someone, you can’t say for sure unless you’ve run a background check on them, which most friends do not do. It would be a serious safety risk to allow drivers to just bring anybody along. And while you may have been comfortable with it, every woman I know has a story of riding with an uncomfortable driver. Imagine if they’d had a friend?
Sorry, this isn’t what you want to hear but encouraging sketchy behavior does not make people safer.
Such a double standard. I understand it but it’s just messed up. I’ve picked up 2 female passengers and wish I had somebody in the car with me for how uncomfortable it was. I also can understand why a female driver would be uncomfortable if she had a ride with 4 dudes in the middle of the night. Maybe Lyft should make passenger limits to 3 unless xl because as an independent contractor, I think I should have some say in my own safety for my own car.
The last time I had 2 girls chattering away it turned into a political abortion debate, Jesus I wanted to tell them to stfu
That’s a tough spot and totally unprofessional of them.
Unprofessional? Homie you got a whole ass person with probably nothing better to do than hang out with a friend while they drive. If they do debate about politics it’s not that bad lol. Annoying sure but I find it hard to have expectations of people being professional when they paid like 20% of what the passenger pays them
Ya and as dangerous as it is today i say more power to 'em.
It's 80% but yea it's still close to minimum wage once you add up the gas you pay for, car maintenance, and the insane amount of taxes you will have to pay at end of year. It's just not worth it at all.
fogetabouit .Not to mention entrapment traffic cameras in places like DC with 200$ ticket in the mail per infraction.They are like everwhere in DC .Driving Uber/Lift is only good till you get another job.
what side were you on
Against policy and grounds to revoke the drivers ability to work for Lyft. Part of the social agreement with ride sharing is that you know you’re being picked up by a licensed driver who has passed a criminal background check. Not some “friend” who’s a stranger
That’s funny because I just had a ride where the girl was the one picking me up and the guy was driving. I don’t care but I could see that being a problem for some.
Probably because the guy got deactivated and using his girl's credentials/phone to make a new account.
Or his name isn’t on the car/insurance so he borrowed her account. Either way he’s wrong
Agreed
Lyft does not do criminal background checks on their drivers.
From Lyfts website: “Lyft conducts a criminal background check as a part of the application process.” So yes, at least in the US they do
Yes they do, you’re absolutely wrong here
Yes they do. I got denied by them recently … misdemeanor simple assault in 2001
Okay, I am wrong. I got approved so quickly I didn't believe they could do a complete check in that amount of time. That's rough--a misdemeanor from over 20 years ago.
Yes they do.
They do .however .its not worth it driving for lyftt in slow times
Against policy for sure. I once had two dudes pick me up and it was dead silence for the 30 minute ride. I could see the driver constantly looking at me through the rear view. Definitely an uncomfortable ride. Would have loved to be in your situation!
30 min of dead silence is exactly the kind of ride I want.
There are two kinds of people
I had one with a boyfriend and girlfriend that were fighting. He was the driver and the girlfriend was apparently there to make sure he didn’t fuck anyone. They kept making jokes between themselves about white people (am white). It was a shitty ride.
That’s terrible to hear.
Ah that’s tough. Yeah I may have cut that ride short. Haha
This is exactly what I was thinking- if it’s two women (I am also a woman) I’d be cool with it. If it’s two dudes? Hell no
I don’t understand why you would get into the car knowing they aren’t supposed to have another person to begin with. That would be so dangerous and uncomfortable as a rider. As a driver, I understand why it would be safer to have a second person. It really is a no-win situation.
I check my mirrors constantly and I'm always worried my passengers think I'm looking at them in the mirrors. 😬
From this frequent riders perspective, it is against policy. For starters, it’s distracting for the passenger — I prefer to ride with some mellow music or silence, so two people talking for a longer ride would annoy me for sure. Also, Lyft standard I think says up to 4 passengers. If there is someone in the front seat, that’s a problem, unless you’re in a minivan.
Also, from a safety standpoint, the driver has been background checked. The passenger probably hasn't. Everything you mentioned is the icing on the cake. It's against policy, it takes up a seat. If it wasn't against policy and the driver told me in advance, I might feel differently but the fact that she just expected the OP to be fine with it with no forewarning...that's arrogant.
Just to play devil's advocate, in regards to the background check it's not like Lyft passengers get background checked before they're allowed to use the platform. How is it fair to expect the drivers to put themselves at risk? There's been multiple videos showing passengers attacking drivers.
That's my point. If a customer is paying for a service, the emphasis for safety is going to be for the customer They paid. If you get into a car where the driver is already breaking policy, what else are they willing to do? Who's the person in the passenger seat? I don't know, don't want to find out.
god my hope and prayer for some of you is to touch grass once in your lives
Is this supposed to mean something, or is it just "I can't think of anything to say so I'll post some generic inspirational quote"?
you have to touch grass, be one with grass, to truly understand the divinity
Risk Management
War in Ukraine, war in Israel, gas prices sky high, murder, rape and famine in the world and you're prayers are for people who reply on Reddit. Who needs to touch grass?
🤣point proven thanks
So it seems you understand the risks involved for women who choose to be Uber/lyft drivers. Specifically the rape and murder aspect of this reply…
I seem to remember sometime in the last year of a woman passenger that murdered a rideshare driver that was a male and it was unprovoked.
that’s fair brother, it can go both ways. I was just trying to argue 🥹🥹🥹
That exact thing happened just 2 miles from my house (Tacoma, Wa) a couple weeks ago. Lady stabbed an elderly ride share driver (can't remember if uber/lyft etc) *with a fucking axe*, near Point Defiance 😳
So you took the aspects of what I wrote to add your own context...interesting. Why do you only include this risk for women? Just curious...
The original post was about women. It would be one thing if the driver were a guy. Girls should stay in groups of two in my opinion. I have no issue w them bringing along a co Pilot if it makes them feel safe. Isn’t that the top priority? Say the riders are a whole crew and there isn’t room, simply unassign oneself as the driver for the ride.
Maybe I'm not understanding what you mean when you say "it would be one thing if the driver were a guy...". I don't see how the argument on either side should be dictated by gender. I'm not sure if you are a driver or if you are familiar with Lyft and Uber, but technically we aren't allowed to have weapons in the car as well. I've disagreed with this for years, but I'm not going to brazenly flaunt a weapon on my front seat. In this story, it appears the friend never identified herself and never added any context "Hi, my name is ****, I'm [driver's name] friend and I'm just here for safety". None of that. Nobody here still knows who that person was. And if you or somebody else wants to start a company similar to Lyft/Uber and initiate the two person rule, go ahead. It still doesn't justify the driver in this specific story.
People like U make me mad ur reading too far into this shit
Here's a simple clue...when you are the only one doing something and that thing happens to be against a law or policy or social standards, it's probably a good reason why nobody else is doing it. Know wut I mean, dawg?
You should read Lyft's terms of service before acting like you know the policy and treating people like they're stupid for disagreeing with you. Having a passenger not provided/assigned by Lyft during a Lyft ride is not barred by their policies in any way, and section 19 clearly explains that Lyft does not and can not control how a driver operates their vehicle or business. Additionally, your social norms are not someone else's social norms, and nobody is legally or morally required to follow anyone else's standards. Edit: I was wrong, see below.
So, I went and read the TOS, and it does seem to be prohibited. [https://www.lyft.com/terms](https://www.lyft.com/terms) Section 10: You will not engage in reckless behavior while driving or otherwise providing Rideshare Services, drive unsafely, operate a vehicle that is unsafe to drive, **permit an unauthorized third party to accompany you in the vehicle while providing Rideshare Services**,
That's interesting. Maybe I should take my own advice. That line is new since my last read-through while I was driving a couple years ago, and section 19 has changed making it a lot more vague. I did scan the new terms before making my comment but that was mostly to get the number for the 'relationship with Lyft' section, so I missed the changes. I suspect that specific line would be considered unenforceble if anyone had the desire and resources to take it through arbitration and ultimately court (if it got that far), but that's purely speculation. Calling them a copilot, intern, or employee should technically make them not a third party, rather they would be part of the 'business', but the language in section 19 that used to specifically point out that Lyft can't control employees and business partners of the Driver has been removed/replaced with something much more vague. I'll leave my previous comment up, the only reason to significantly edit or delete it would be to hide my hypocrisy.
Great point. I own a company, and as long as my girlfriend is an employee of that company, and that company is driving for Lyft, then I can have her operate as my co-pilot, according to these terms.
Did you apologize yet? I won't go any further if you apologize...
You're something else. I have no need or desire to apologize, I haven't treated anyone here poorly. You on the other hand.... Edited to add: You couldn't even refute my comment until someone else did the research to do it for you. I feel like this situation as a whole says a lot more about you than it does me.
That's amazing. You reply to me trying to act holier than thou and then you misread, misinterpret and misquote the terms of service and you're not going to apologize. Now, someone who reads your post thinks it's OK to ride with an unauthorized party, carry weapons in their car, etc etc. Now, if they want to break policy, that's their decision. But don't go around saying it's not against policy because you misread something while (ironically) trying to educate me.
if we want to argue safety.. our riders don't have background checks. so why should the drivers backgrounds matter at this point? ive been attacked and had all kinds of crazy in my riders over the last 8 years. I have a clean background but have to pickup people and we never get to see their profile pic, actual name and they have no background checks for riders.. I guess as a driver we are less of a person so we don't deserve to have our riders also checked.
Doesn’t Lyft have both the drivers’ AND riders’ information in case anything happens? Isn’t the issue that normally they have the information of both parties in the car, but now a totally unknown third party is being introduced?
The passenger isn't in control of a multi-ton death machine that can be manipulated to lock the passenger in.
now I wanna play cod zombies.. I hate you.. 🤣
When you have to pay the customers to ride in your vehicle, you can ask for background checks... Edit - But if being a driver is that dangerous for you, find a different gig. There are plenty that don't require you to interact in close quarters with the customer. And you are required to do a background because we as customers are paying for the ride and agreeing to allow someone we don't know to have our safety in their hands.
does the courthouse have to pay you to get your information and search you for weapons? Does a cna get paid to get their live scan done just so they can be certified? Do I get paid to get a cpr license and maintain it? no.. so what you said is stupid.. I shouldn't have to pay a rider for them to have a background check. I pay for my vehicle and I am selling them my time, my gas, my energy. So I am technically their employee and last time I checked a employer is supposed to provide legal info and have traceable accreditation to run a company including their own LLC or at the very least a dba. So don't comment nonsense. you pay for the ride to have someone take you around. You don't pay me to take you around, you pay uber to have uber pay someone else give you a ride. and I pay Uber to offer a ride to you. we both pay Uber. So I should have equal rights to you because my safety is just as important as yours. or more so, I am the one taking the risk of getting car jacked and robbed, not you. lol freaking idiot. shut that stupidity the hell up. 🤣
Should fast food restaurants have customers provide background checks in order to gain access and order food? Crazy/dangerous people go in there and harrass/assault employees. You're the idiot. How are you our employee when you are contracted with the company to drive? 🤣 Seeing you get defensive because you are being told to find a different job if you don't feel safe working the one you are in now is the icing on the cake. Sounds like the frustration from realizing you cant do better. It's a shame that you feel that way but I'm okay with it. It's very satisfying knowing YOU know you aren't going to do anything differently and/or succeed. LMAO Edit - and your "wish" is moronic. Since you are the type that needs to have a point shoved into your face...
what I said 100% went over your tiny little brain about who is the employee.. let me know when you catch up and understand what I was getting at.. and lol saying that I can't do better.. now that's hilarious. I'm a mechanical electrical engineer and work as a QA on the side. I am also a music producer and metal artist... you dweeb. 🤣 So wherever you got the idea that I can't do better or succeed is hilarious. and of the two of us. I'm the only one here that can backup anything I claim to show that I'm a someone with a future. Go pet your grass you weak little vegetarian.. 🤣 I can easily send you proof of my credentials for accountability. take your nobody ass on some where. 🤣
This is amazing point🩵
You’re being paid, the passenger is not.
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It's not my imagination dictating anything -- it appears in their posted guidebook: [https://www.lyft.com/hub/posts/guidebook](https://www.lyft.com/hub/posts/guidebook) The third item down says: **Free up every seat** While we’d all love to bring our buddies, please don’t bring friends or family along when giving rides. Most regulators require anyone transporting passengers to pass a background check. You may also have all seats full on any given ride. I'm not a lawyer, but this to me says don't bring your friends, and that in most cases you bringing them may violate the regulatory requirements requiring them to have passed a background check since they are with you in the car, and then goes on to say that that you may have all seats full. Every regular lift shows 4 passengers for me, which typically means 3 seats (with seatbelts) in the back and one in the front-passenger seat.
Wouldn't it have been more weird if they both sat in silence?
I wonder if I used it more frequently I would feel the same as you.
I’m a middle-aged business traveler, so I don’t want to hear other people’s conversations when I am in the car. I think Lyft also has a policy against driver use of their cellphones during rides. I don’t mind if someone has a quick and critical call come in, and whenever that’s happened, the driver has apologized and/or explained and I said “I understand, no worries” (and I’ve not held it against them). My one experience with someone else in the car was a pickup at LAX where the driver was brand new, and their friend who was more experienced was giving them pointers of what to do — greet the passenger, start the ride, wish the passenger well, end the ride, etc. I was fine with this.
It’s should be against policy for riders to have loud conversations ON SPEAKER PHONE. This is a regular occurrence for me and I fking hate it. It’s rude, distracting and completely unnecessary. If you need to yap so much, buy a good pair of headphones and keep it down. I mark all these riders as “rude” and give them 1 star.
It is annoying but I always have my own head set to put on when I don’t want to hear it. Who does that speaker phone nonsense is a special kind of person. And apparently there’s a lot of them.
Literally just had another. At least the volume was lower
Why do you rate them poorly? It's annoying and something I would not personally do, but you are providing a service to move people from point A to B. Restrictions on activities that affect the vehicle like eating make sense, however I think dictating the noise volume of passengers, whether they are talking person or in the phone, is too far. Every job has great customers and those that aren't so great. Personally I am very polite and respectful to drivers, staying rather quiet and gently closing doors. Ultimately in my view it is not the job of the rider to serve the driver, the rider is paying for the service. The riders should need to adhere to certain guidelines, like those involving safety of the driver and vehicle, as well as potential damage to the vehicle I personally do not think talking on the phone or voice volume is a reasonable restriction.
As a driver, if you do the slightest thing wrong, people will rate you low… and they don’t give a crap about your ability to earn a living. Bet you don’t care about that. If you are actually bad at the job, you will notice your ratings going down and you have time to make adjustments if you want to keep your job. It goes both ways. If someone is going to be disrespectful and distracting to the point of making the ride unsafe… They should be made to know that their bad behavior will not be tolerated. When two people are talking over each other at a very loud volume and one of those voices is through a speakerphone cranked all the way up… It’s very f’n distracting. I’m talking about conversations so loud that I can’t hear the GPS directions. This forces me to rely on looking at the map… Which involves me taking my eyes off the road more often than I normally would. This is dangerous. It was so loud I had to put in my own AirPods, and turn on noise cancellation. I could still hear them, and now I can’t hear the natural sounds of traffic. This is dangerous. Just the other day I picked up a doctor from his country club. He was in a group meeting with other physicians, talking about patients with the speakerphone cranked all the way up. It’s technically a HIPAA violation. Do you want your doctor blabbing about your private health information in front of a stranger? What if this person ended up being someone you knew? These people need to invest in some AirPods at the very least. If I give them a one star rating, when they earn it. Maybe they will think twice about their obnoxious behavior. A single one star rating won’t prevent them from using the service, but it may encourage them to be more respectful instead of entitled. Why don’t you tell me how this isn’t fair? Do you think people should be completely unaccountable for their poor behavior?
I mean, the chances of them looking in their ratings and realizing that their random one star is from that time they talked on the phone is super slim. I have one random one star and I have no idea what I did to piss the driver off or even what ride it was from.
Then maybe more people should do it, and not be afraid or act like they have a boss. Seems like the mentality of a defeated employee to let people walk all over you and do whatever they please. At the end of the day for each driver… It is their own business. It’s up to each person to decide who they will do business with. This “customer is always right” bullshit… Is just that.
Technically, they're paying for the service of privacy by taking a service. They aren't on a bus or a train, where privacy is an issue. They are the customer, paying for a comfortable, PRIVATE ride. Your comfort is the least of their concerns. Their comfort should be your main concern. I suggest doordash or ubereats if you want silence from your PAYING passengers. Business people sometimes need to take impromptu calls. I'd be damned if i told a million dollar client that i couldn't talk because I'd make my driver upset. For the duration of the ride, as long as im respectful, it's technically like you rented your car out, w you as the driver.
If you were in my ride acting out like a petulant child or trying to come across as a “big deal“ just because you’re materialistic and entitled… You’d be telling the person on the other end of the phone about how I kicked you out of my ride. After that… I would mark you as “rude” and give you one star. Then, because of my 5-Star “Elite” status… I would talk to somebody at Lyft, explain the situation… And it would not affect me in the least. That’s the reality. Deal with it.
So, taking a call from a client - from the job paying them that in turn pays you - is acting like any of this? No, it's called a job. I pay you to drive so i can speak with clients, if need be. If you want silence, deliver food instead of interacting with/driving people.
You have the mentality of an idiot, victim, slave… And talk about “reading comprehension”… You’re still not getting the point. Go back and read again… This time pay attention. You might “pay me to drive”… But that doesn’t absolve you of all human decency and responsibility. If you don’t think so… You’re a narcissistic sociopath. Never heard of the “right to refuse service“? You are an entitled, narcissistic sociopath. It would be my pleasure to kick you out of my ride. 🥰
What else would you like the freedom to do in MY vehicle? Would you like to be able to shit your pants and smear it all over the windows? 😂😂😂
Stoned and bored is no way to go through life, retard 🤣🤣🤣
Imagine you having “clients” 🤣🤣🤣
Are you saying you’re incapable of talking with an indoor voice either directly into your phone or with headphones on? That is the essence of what I posted… In case you weren’t paying attention. I don’t give a 💩 people are on their phone speaking at a respectful volume. You are capable of making distinction between “respectful volume“ and LOUD distracting volume creating unnecessary risk, aren’t you? No one has ever had to ask me to turn down my music, I can assess the situation and create an appropriate environment. if you’re a passenger and your driver is playing, super loud music… Wouldn’t you consider it disrespectful if they didn’t turn it down? Do you think the driver has to eat shit just because the entitled, unconscious passenger is acting a fool? If so, you are against humanity and fairness. If certain riders had the same appreciation that they were in a confined space with another human being, it wouldn’t be a problem. Especially considering they are basically a “guest“ in another person‘s property. You sound like a guilty, entitled sociopath, who happens to be anti-worker. Also seems you think there are exceptions to human decency. What are these exceptions to human decency floating around in your head? 🤔
I lost interest after the first paragraph. Your tirade of responses tells us EVERYTHING we need to know about your false sense of self-importance. Again, want silence? Deliver food or find another job 🤷🏼♀️
I did see you write "guest in your car." WRONG. You're essentially my employee, for that car ride, who happens to be using their vehicle. It's all within the transaction of you being paid to be a driver. You're not their bestie or neighbor giving them a ride out of the kindness of your heart. You're being paid to drive. That's it.
No… Retard. It’s a privilege for you to be in my vehicle. If you act up, I’m kicking you the F out. It must be your stone brain that prevents you from understanding what entitled, narcissist means. That is you, retard.
Maybe get a backbone. You don’t make any more money for putting up with bullshit. What the hell is a “million dollar client” in a ride-share? 😂😂😂 Sort of pathetic that you would allow someone with money to treat you like dirt. People should be judged on the content of their character… Not how much money they have. You get paid the same rather they make minimum wage or they’re a billionaire.
Why not rate them down? If the driver is being rude and making passengers uncomfortable they should know that. Drivers that are t rude and making passengers uncomfortable will be rated highly. I certainly don’t think 1 star is appropriate but neither is 5.
The rating of one ⭐️ exists for a reason. If it becomes a matter of safety while driving… It seems appropriate. What else would you use it for?
I mean it’s not appropriate when the driver is minorly annoying by talking loudly on the phone or driving with a passenger. If they do something unsafe or extremely offensive, sure, go low…
Being in a lift with a copilot after spending 3 hours at the airport, 3-6 hours on a flight, and another 30-60 minutes to leave the airport; then 50 minutes of driving? Fuck. No. If you don't work travel regularly, say 10 out of every month of business days, probably doesn't seem like much to deal with. When you're constantly stressed with travel + the job? Fuck no. I need those 50 minutes in that Uber/lyft/taxi to be peaceful and quiet. It's typically the most relaxing part of the travel, and I need that before getting down to business.
The only time I had an issue with a driver taking a call was when they took 3 different phone calls in 15 minutes and in one said “no I’m not busy what’s up” like sir you are at work wtf!?!
If one of my kids calls I ask they don't mind just to make sure they're ok. Then I tell them I have a rider and if they are ok I'll call them later. Everyone has been totally cool with that. Then I get off the phone immediately. I have a huge car screen so I'm not looking at my phone or anything.
I mean that’s totally understandable
Like the above person mentioned, it's an issue because if you have 4 people and order a sedan and the driver has someone with them upfront, now they can't accommodate the correct amount of people. If they were just doing Uber eats or DD or something it wouldn't be an issue. Also imagine you're a lone female and it's two guys sitting upfront, would you still be comfortable "closing your eyes for 10 minutes" ?
If you’re a secure woman aware of actual statistics that MIST WOMEN ARE NOT SEXUALLY ASSAULTED IN RIDE SHARES
Sure and most planes don't crash either, doesn't mean someone can't be uncomfortable with flying. Your point ?
My point? Simple. You’re being unrealistic and delusional and trying to let that dictate other peoples lives. Do you think that’s fair? Does the world need to pander to your insecure, paranoid narcissism?
About 4-5 years ago I got in the car and it was a girl driver and her three brothers. One seat for me.
lol that’s tough. That might have been an auto cancel.
I took the ride and talked about it the whole time to them and complained to Lyft afterwards. It made me really, really curious like what if there were two riders? Would she cancel or would she drop one of her brothers off at the pickup location? And they didn’t seem to think too much about that. Are her brothers that disposable?
I’m guessing they were already headed somewhere and she turned it on to try to get some cash on the way. No other way I’d see a driver and three people in the car riding around to pick people up. Thats way too many. That’s kind of wild lol
A couple tried to pick me up before I refused to get in and reported.
Good job! That’s a terribly unsafe situation to put yourself in.
This is the only correct action.
It's against the policy but unless there was some serious issue with the ride It's not worth reporting it.
Would you have been as comfortable if it were two men in the front seat?
Many will think it is no problem, until there is an accident. The copilot is NOT insured for anything. I do understand two women, but then what happens if the driver gets a ride with 4 people? Its a false sense of security as I as a male driver cannot do anything against someone with a gun or knife that is sitting behind me. You would end up with two victims instead of one. just my thoughts.
This is a really interesting point. BRB driving now.
Could it have been a shared ride?
But why make a post about it asking if it's against policy if you didn't care?
Make conversation? I’m curious?
Maybe I want to start driving?
Would it make a difference if 2 dudes showed up? I feel like as a guy having 2 girls is great but if 2 dudes showed up idk
I sort of get it, I’m a woman and I’d not feel super comfortable being alone with a man in my car. Hense- bring a friend. Being a customer alone with 2 dudes? Sus. That said, as a customer I’m fine with being alone with a male driver lol. I think it’s a question of volume? Like if I take 1 Lyft per month the chances of something shady happening is low. But if I’m giving like 20 rides a day that changes the equation for me
Lol it's actually the other way around
Definitely been picked up by multiple people and thought I was getting robbed (mainly cause they looked like meth heads but still)
So on some cities they have shared Lyft rides but a friend or extra person in the car other then the driver in a not shared ride will get them deactivated since that person didn't pass the same background check as the driver it's a safety issue and that's an easy way for bad things to happen like being trafficked
It’s against policy. Not allowed
it is 100% against the policy. No co riders or pets are allowed.
I've had drivers who brought their pets along on multiple occasions this year. Didn't know it was against policy.
yeah wish I could screenshot for you and post it. on your app try looking through the help section for pets and see if you find it for drivers.
Not allowed at all , it's against Lyft and Uber policy.
I know someone that got deactivated for this. Personally I wouldn’t have gotten in the car and reported it immediately.
shut my eyes for 10 mins???🤣🤣🤣🤣
A driver once had a puppy in the passenger seat during my ride. I loved it lol but the driver also stopped for gas during the ride, and I've never had that happen before. I wasn't in a rush, but it just seems against policy lol
There's probably something before going online that the driver needs to click saying that they have enough fuel, the car is in a clean, drivable state, etc. before taking rides. But I can imagine after a couple hours of rides, if they are coming in consistently, that the driver comes upon a low fuel warning during a ride, and also drives by their favored gas station, then they would get gas there. Did they ask you if it was alright? Or did they just pull in and put gas in without hesitation?
It's not a taxi. There's no checklist before you get in your car. They expect you to know what to do I guess. But you should definitely have gas. And if you know you're going to need gas you need to stop between rides. The only exception I would say is if you're in the middle of a bonus run and one of your rides is super long but then I would have to ask the passenger first.
Weird. When I drove for UberEats a couple years ago, it asked if you had your car fueled up, phone charged, food bag handy, and I don't remember if it was every time I went online or just often, but I also had to take a selfie to verify that it was me before going online. And I pretty much agree with you, 99% of the time, you shouldn't have to worry about getting gas on a ride, but for that 1%, you should ask the passenger first
Yeah, she did ask! I didn't report it. I think the reason is because it was going to be an hour drive into the city. She probably wanted to avoid the higher gas prices.
Against policy but I agree, our car, our rules especially at night.
It’s your car, but Lyfts platform. If you don’t feel safe driving at night by yourself, you should probably just stick to day time driving. I refuse to take a Lyft or Uber with anyone but the driver. I report it every time it happens to me, which thankfully is rare
Totally get it
As a female, can be scary to drive at night. Safety in numbers and all that. Plus it can get lonely if slow night. I would let it go.
There are definitely some good points here. How many of you have cameras in the vehicle? I think almost everyone I’ve taken do have them. Back to the liability question above, that does make total sense. Ok last question… if you got in the car and there was a pilot and co-pilot do you just cancel the trip and report ?
As a pax I only had one ride in 7 years where there was someone else and she introduced her sister and it was chill. I would not always be ok with that, though. Once, a guy had his small child in the front seat and I felt uncomfortable for the kid's safety during rush hour but I needed the ride and it was clear he was brand new and needed the fare. Another time, the driver rolled down their window and explained as they were pulling up why their car was different than in their bio and it was fine. As a driver I got a camera and started strategizing my customer interactions before I took my first trip. As a woman I know how to use all of my safety tools properly and I would not put passengers in the position of getting into a car with an unexpected third person.
I had a driver with their todler in the car. Not saying I cared but it is definitely against the policy.
That’s so unsafe because how do they know you aren’t a psycho and now their kid is in danger.
You’d love me as a Driver. I don’t bring a co-pilot but I speak to the imaginary one the whole ride. The Netflix playing on my iPad is for the imaginary co-Pilot so you don’t have to worry about me being distracted.
Scoop me up, heading to the airport in 3 hours. Bring a tin of Copenhagen and an Arnold Palmer please.
I have only ever asked or needed to fuel once with a passenger and I asked and she was totally fine. There isn’t enough access on the app. It’s took black and white. They need us to do more. We cant change addresses for people who clearly are tech disabled.. or add stops on their behalf. Maybe it’s a safety thing. But I find weekly issues with this and it becomes annoying because we can’t do anything about it. We’re highly limited and overused. There is no driver advantage
yeah I once had a lady driver and her grandma was the passenger. It was late at night and thought probably brought her along for safety because she literally had an oxygen tank. I dont know what to do in the situation but it’s definitely against policy as I was a driver at one time.
I once had a Lyft pick me up at DFW and she had her 8 year old daughter in the front seat. I didn’t think anything of it. She can’t make money if she has to pay for a babysitter while driving.
Last night my driver asked me if he could pick up his friend lmao, like no way dude
You were comfortable with another female co-pilot. Now imagine if it was a bigger guy that you weren't expecting.
Like I said before I probably would have been comfortable. I didn’t know the policy, and that’s why I started the thread. With that being said, I am 6’5 255. The only thing I usually feel uncomfortable with is the size of the car. I could definitely see though where people some people could fear for their safety. On another note: I really feel it’s way more dangerous for the driver right? You have no idea who or what group you’re picking up.
“If so…it shouldn’t be.” Yea, it absolutely should be. The person has not been background checked. And two…I’m going to take a wild guess that you aren’t a woman? It already is scary for us to get in cars with strangers. We rely on Lyft to make sure those people are at least background checked. And even then drivers are constantly creeps. Which is why I now only use the “woman only” version. And our chances are much better escaping from one person than 2. I had a driver pull up a month or so ago and had a man in the passenger seat. I refused to get in and reported them. It’s not okay.
It’s crazy out here I wish they can give you an option to have a friend with you I heard so many stories about drunk people and sexual harassment and also people getting into shootouts
That sounds way more lovely than what I imagined. The one time I had a driver with a co-pilot, it was a guys gf and he told my gf and I that they never get to see each other because they work so much so she sometimes joins him. It would have been cute had she not stayed dead silent the whole ride. It did not feel like they were actually in a relationship.
No it’s not normal, yes you should report it.
Would you have been as comfortable if it was two men tho?
I’m starting to not like passengers more and more for the entitlement y’all put in these comments
Why are you being a Karen? Smh
Not really, it’s a safety thing. The driver has gone through a background and safety check, but this passenger hasn’t and we don’t know who this person is. No Karen at all here.
Are ride services more likely to have the pic match the person than food delivery? All my food deliveries are from scammers.
Probably for safety.
Yes it is against policy. But there are times where when I have my wife in the car, and we are going a good distance, I may turn on Lyft, and set the filter to pick up rides on the way. If a ride pops up, I would text and let them know the situation. If they were uncomfortable with it, I would cancel. But that has never happened.
F36 driver of five years. I really wish it actually was allowed! There have been a few occasions that I've had a ride along. #1 it was starting to snow and my 50F friend I'd been hanging out with didn't want me to leave yet. So we stayed together so she could coach me on driving and so if anything happened when I didn't have a rider I wouldn't be stuck by myself (there would also be another body to push if necessary) #2 a friend who refused to let me go back to work. Insisted on riding along. I think she was also curious what it was like. Ended up that everyone I tried to pick up had four people so I had to cancel three rides, I got one ride, but missed all the surge pricing I was chasing anyway. #3 I rode with a friend who had just started driving. She felt like she wasn't using the AP to it's potential and wanted help driving. #4 again a (different) friend didn't want me to leave and was very curious what the driving was like. All the times were fine. I would announce upon arrival what was going on because people are always surprised when someone is in the front seat (of course they would be!) it was kinda nice to take the pressure off of me. Mostly my copilot would say hello and the two would chat. A couple times it was clear people didn't want to talk. I have a go-to two try rule and after that I leave them be. The second try is out of politeness for those of us awkward peeps who might need a second probe to come out of their shell. I was very stressed because I was worried I'd be deactivated, but at least no one got mad at me. Have heard of other F drivers having someone along for safety. I think Lyft should allow this and allow us to say there are only three seats available and only link us to people getting 3 or less riders.
Okay how the eff did the size of the font change like that?
Yeah, it's against policy. (And for good reason) If we lived in a better society, it wouldn't, but people are gonna "people," regardless. Besides, all seats need to be available. 🙄
If it’s a 3rd party sure. If it’s another rider that was part of your shared ride then no.
One time my lyfts boyfriend kidnapped her at knife point and was forcing her to drive around picking up rides. I would imagine he was in control of her bank account and taking the money for himself. He had the knife to her the whole time I was in the back seat, he had it under a t shirt pressed up against her side. At one point he grabbed the steering wheel while we were going about 45-50mph and jerked it hard to his side of the car. I asked them to stop at a gas station so I could use the atm, I went inside had the worker at the gas station call 911, I walked up to her side of the car reached in the window turned the ignition off pulled the keys out and then pulled my pistol out and stood in front of the car with the gun pointed at his head through the front windshield until the police showed up.
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Yeah. It shouldn’t be against policy. What if a mom has nowhere for her kid to go and needs to work? It’s true, the driver having their own passenger in the front does make it feel a lot more comfortable.
I once called a ride kind of late leaving my ex BF’s friend’s house , my ex walked me out to meet the driver. My driver was in a dark colored car with music blasting at an astronomical volume. He had a sketchy passenger guy with his hood up and when he pulled up in front of us and rolled down the windows smoke was literally blasting out . My ex took one look in and told him to cancel the trip. Scary to think I’d even get in that car by myself.
You didn't order a lyft share ride did you? Too many times I've had passengers surprised that there's another passenger in the car, or that I'm picking up someone else cause they didn't know what lyft or uber share was
It absolutely should be and here’s why: Lyft rides are for up to 4 people. I’ve been in an awkward scenario where I and three others needed a ride, called a Lyft, and the person showed up with a co-pilot. They tried to get me to cancel the ride. Then, they told me they were going to press that they’d picked me up and start driving. I told them they were welcome to it and called an Uber :/
I’ve seen this movie before
I thought this was going in a different direction…..
It’s a shame that the vehicle is the drivers and not Lyfts. It might matter what Lyft policy was on the subject. I love private contractors they can authorize whomever they wish to be there.
I have my puppy with my sometimes when I drive. To put my front seat out of use 😂 and it’s not uncommon I’ve taken rides before where a friend tagged alone. Some women don’t feel safe or probably had an uncomfortable experience so has someone drive with them.
lol Lyft isn’t professional had a girl driving with a guy passenger that said he couldn’t hold a job so he tagged along with the girlfriend. Smh
One reason I’ve been a Lyft rider for so long, is that one of the first Ubers I used (also sharing with other passengers to save a buck at the time) This couple started arguing next to me and one of them even opened the car door while driving. Shit was wild. They were both drunk and arguing about one of them getting hit on
Yes against policy
I can understand wanting to have someone with you for safety reasons. Someone is less likely to tey something when there are 2 people there instead of just one
Had one in Vegas when Lyft first started with a "trainer". We'd ordered a Lyft for 4 people... in a 5 person vehicle... the math doesn't work. Stood there for like 5 minutes staring at the lady before the driver just put us all in the back seat. Guess they didn't want to be the one to cancel.
You guys should have gone to taco bell
If genders were reversed in this situation you would not feel comfortable getting in a car with an unknown passenger picking you up. Even with genders as is those women could’ve been setting you up to get robbed or worse. If it isn’t against policy it should be. Also what if it had been you and three buddies and someone was going to need to sit in the front seat? How would that have worked out?
I mean but that rule could easily get pushed… well, why can’t I Lyft and have my crying baby in the front seat? Why can’t I also drive my dog around while I Lyft? Idk slippery slope in my eyes
It's such bullshit. LYFT will throw up to 3 fuckin strangers in your car at one time (to maximize profit). But when a female driver wants to feel safe driving G at night, so she brings a friend... Nope... Against policy. LYFT fuckin sucks...
My husband and I are both registered drivers for Lyft and used to "team drive" sometimes for my safety and because having 2 cellphones available in the car in case of an emergency is nice. For the people who say "well what if it was 4 passengers", I didn't let any passengers ride in front with me anyway so that was not a valid concern for me. I don't care if Lyft says I can take 4 passengers, it is my car and if I'm not comfortable with a stranger sitting close to me in the front seat,I don't have to let them sit there.
This exact thing actually happened to me a few nights ago. I hit a pothole and it blew my tire out. Happened to be right in front of a tire shop and it was about 10 at night so I figured I’d leave my car there and come back in the morning to get it replaced. Called a Lyft and a pair of women show up. Threw me off at first but they were both totally cool. It seemed like it would be safer for them and they kept up the bulk of the conversation so I was cool with just sitting and listening. Made the ride seem quick and it was probably the most comfortable ride I’ve had. Took a Lyft back the next morning and got an awkward guy who I really couldn’t understand because of his accent. He wasn’t rude but he wasn’t welcoming either. I preferred the two women way more. I’m a man if that makes any difference.
Yes report them
No
It’s absolutely against policy, it should be, and you should be reporting it. First of all, we’re supposed to be able to carry four passengers, and that doesn’t leave room for a friend. Second, drivers are background checked, and their friends are not. And no matter how well you know someone, you can’t say for sure unless you’ve run a background check on them, which most friends do not do. It would be a serious safety risk to allow drivers to just bring anybody along. And while you may have been comfortable with it, every woman I know has a story of riding with an uncomfortable driver. Imagine if they’d had a friend? Sorry, this isn’t what you want to hear but encouraging sketchy behavior does not make people safer.
Such a double standard. I understand it but it’s just messed up. I’ve picked up 2 female passengers and wish I had somebody in the car with me for how uncomfortable it was. I also can understand why a female driver would be uncomfortable if she had a ride with 4 dudes in the middle of the night. Maybe Lyft should make passenger limits to 3 unless xl because as an independent contractor, I think I should have some say in my own safety for my own car.
You do have some say. You can decide not to do this job. 🙄