Don't base your personal security on the opinions of others. They won't be there in court with you if it comes to that.
Make the decision yourself.
It definitely helps bump the numbers and that's a great price though!
just so you know, a combo class is kinda scamy. when you get your wear and carry, you get the hql for free. no need to pay for the extra prints or application
I paid $175.I refused to pay price gouging shops that claim they're for the people but inflated their prices directly after the ruling lol.
Stopped doing business with a few shops that did that.
Don't forget that you can still carry pretty much unrestricted in your vehicle and that alone is worth the price with all the carjackings going on. See the CCW as carjacking insurance. You still have to make it from your vehicle to inside your home.More insurance.
Nope, it excludes carrying in your vehicle. You are able to transport in an unreachable location with everything unloaded and separate.. so if you're carjacked you can't defend yourself/your family.
Please research the bill. Without a wear & carry you must have the gun unloaded with ammo out of reach. With a wear and carry you can have a loaded firearm on you while in the vehicle. (Guns can be loaded and on your person/ loaded in a locked container with a W&C - suggesting a biometric safe for the car off Amazon)
Please go to Maryland Shall Issue for a better understanding of SB1 restrictions
Exceptions from carry restrictions:
As noted, SB 1 creates exceptions from the bans in each of the two sections, Section 4-111 and Section 6-411, and those exceptions are different for each section. By definition, the exceptions are applicable only to the locations otherwise addressed by Section 4-111 or Section 6-411. The exceptions don't apply to other areas outside of those locations. As to these other areas, existing law continues to apply.
The exceptions applicable to Section 4-111 are:
- On private property, by persons authorized by the owner or lessee to wear and carry or transport a firearm for the purpose of employment as (1) a security guard OR (2) for the purpose of protecting any individual or property at the location with an express agreement between the parties, remuneration, or compensation.
- On public property, at locations being used with the permission of the person or governmental unit that owns, leases, or controls the location for organized shooting activities for educational purposes, historical demonstrations using firearms, or hunting or target shooting
-Firearms that are carried or transported in a motor vehicle if the firearm is locked in a container or handguns worn, carried, or transported in compliance with any limitations imposed under § 5-307 of the Public Safety Article by those who permits to wear, carry or transport handguns have been issued under Title 5, Subtitle 3 of the Public Safety Article. This does not affect transport of firearms under current law in areas unaffected by SB 1.
-Law enforcement officials or police officers as defined under § 3-201 of the Public Safety Article
-Members of the Armed Forces of the United States, the National Guard, or the Uniformed Services while on duty or traveling to or from duty
-Members of an ROTC program while participating in an activity for an ROTC program
-On-duty employees of a law enforcement agency authorized by the agency to possess firearms on duty or whose duty assignment involves the possession of firearms
-Correctional officers or wardens of a correctional facility in the State
-Railroad police officers appointed under Title 3, Subtitled 4 of the Public Safety Article
-Employees of an armed car company, if acting under the scope of employment and has valid permits to wear, carry, or transport handguns issued under Title 5, Subtitle 3 of the Public Safety Article
-Off-duty law enforcement officials or retired law enforcement officials in good standing from the United States, the State or another state, or a local unit in the State or another state who possesses a firearm if their badge or credential is carried in compliance with the requirements of the badge or credential and the firearm is carried or possessed by the official or person is concealed from view. (LEOSA)
> § 5-307 of the Public Safety Article by those who permits to wear, carry or transport handguns have been issued under Title 5, Subtitle 3 of the Public Safety Article
exactly, unloaded out of reach and in separate containers, its meant to sound better but if you know how to read you'll see only officers or security maintain the right to have a bearable arm within reach, no private citizens without explicit consent.
You are wrong. This issue has already been addressed on this site. Unloaded and out of reach applies if you do not have a W&C even after 10-1-23, you can still have a loaded gun in your vehicle if you have a W&C in Md. Information posted clearly states.
#### Exceptions from carry restrictions:
#### -Firearms that are carried or transported in a motor vehicle if the firearm is locked in a container or handguns worn, carried, or transported in compliance with any limitations imposed under [§ 5-307 of the Public Safety Article](https://govt.westlaw.com/mdc/Document/N09472EC09CE711DB9BCF9DAC28345A2A?viewType=FullText&originationContext=documenttoc&transitionType=CategoryPageItem&contextData=(sc.Default)) by those who permits to wear, carry or transport handguns have been issued under [Title 5, Subtitle 3 of the Public Safety Article](https://govt.westlaw.com/mdc/Browse/Home/Maryland/MarylandCodeCourtRules?guid=N5D2759909CC211DB9BCF9DAC28345A2A&transitionType=Default&contextData=%28sc.Default%29#N09472EC09CE711DB9BCF9DAC28345A2A). This does not affect transport of firearms under current law in areas unaffected by SB 1.
I'm just letting you know I had a session with 3 republican senators who are addressing this. no matter what you decided you cannot carry a loaded gun in your vehicle in these geographic areas. there are many Offices to interpret it as you said but it is subject to the departments discretion so you are wrong. Your rights are gone.
under 5-307 psa (b) The Secretary may limit the geographic area, circumstances, or times of the day, week, month, or year in which a permit is effective.
I would say that deal is almost to hard to pass up.
But I would also say go for it because SB1 will go into affect but who knows for how long. Could be dragged through courts for years or be struck down within 12 months (not likely but you never know).
One final point and to be that guy, never give up on your individual rights no matter how much they try and suppress it. But that’s just my opinion.
Yes. Because you can use it to get your PA carry and the class qualifies you for Florida. You can then carry in most states of the union at that point.
No.
While a MD permit will allow you to carry in VA and a number of other states, and will allow you to get a PA permit, Florida does NOT honor a Maryland permit.
And, if you spend time in Florida regularly, applying for a Florida permit (even a non-resident permit) is probably the right way to go.
That said, sitting through a Florida class from a competent instructor who can go over the lay of the legal landscape for Florida carry is probably worth while.
Definitely still worth man. My only question is…let’s say they decide to reinstate the whole “you need a reason good enough to get a CCW” again…are we going to be grandfathered in if we had licenses prior to them bringing that back, IF they even try to?
No need to worry about that. The good reason clause was ruled unconstitutional and even Maryland has not been dumb enough to try to uphold it. They even state in the recent legislation that the good reason clause is no longer being enforced. They are just trying other stalling tactics like SB1.
Well that’s not only surprising, but reassuring as well lol. Thanks man. Was definitely something I was worried about. I was gonna be writing letters asking for some refunds 😂
Some people think you can't still carry in your vehicle but be well versed to explain the law to certain officers because they too appear not to know the law. I am probably going to get a lawyer to write a statement that I can carry around in the car!
I don’t see why? It’s still concealed if it’s in your car lol. I keep my holster on and put mine tucked away. I think cops will be more receptive and respectful if ppl were up front with it also. It is a fairly new thing in our atrocious state lol so they need to get used to it a little. Feel comfortable knowing how many people are packing. I have no issues making sure they’re comfortable so I don’t get shot. BUT you will definitely not be taking my hardware away lol.
That’s a great price, and I think everyone is pretty confident this will all get overturned eventually, so for $100 I’d do it. I got mine at the peak of freedom and paid like $600 just to carry for less then a year…
If you have to ask yourself that then maybe it's not.
When I walk my dog around the neighborhood at night I wonder if a ccw is still worth it..
When I walk to the mailbox down the street I wonder if a ccw is still worth it..
When I'm putting gas in my car I wonder if ccw is still worth it..
When I walk into a gun store and want to buy a new gun because I already completed my HQL requirements I wonder if a ccw is still worth it..
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I'd say even if you think it's not worth it in the short term, I believe the training is good for 2 or 3 years. So IF the private property aspects get thrown out, you could submit your paperwork after.
Still a win in my opinion.
Like others have mentioned, Md's permit is accepted in a handful of states and gives you the ability to apply for PA's permit which will give you even more states. Also FL will accept MD's class as a substitute for their own.
You meant to say $300 for NWT's combined class.. At least that's what they show on their site.
As got getting a CCW permit, do it! As you should know by now, they're going to make it harder and harder to do anything related to your self defense! And you're better off getting grandfathered into something, because you already have it, rather than having them pass more bogus laws that make it harder to get, down the road.
I would ask them if they are UT certified instructors as well. Good deal if you only want MD and a few other states. When I did mine, my instructor was Utah-certified so I can carry in almost every State. If they aren't Utah certified, your coughing up money for another class and sinking in more time.
SB1 is *blatantly* unconstitutional. It's employing tactics already called out in *Bruen* as impremissible. So, it's really only a matter of time before most, if not all of SB1 falls. The question isn't if, but how long before it happens.
To be able to legally carry 1/10 places is still worth it, and some other states recognize it, so if you ever go to VA or WV then you're covered.
WV is Constutional carry true constitutional carry and in VA you dont need a permit to open carry
>Being that Sb1 passes on the first of October And the legal challenges are already underway. Expect a lot of them to fall under the Bruen standard.
Don't base your personal security on the opinions of others. They won't be there in court with you if it comes to that. Make the decision yourself. It definitely helps bump the numbers and that's a great price though!
This is the truest statement ever
where the hell is doing a 2 day 16 hour course for 100 dollars? you sure u aren't getting scammed?
Nightwolf tactical
yeah its the standard 300 dollars like everywhere else. but whatever you say if u got a deal good for you
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just so you know, a combo class is kinda scamy. when you get your wear and carry, you get the hql for free. no need to pay for the extra prints or application
true, but $100 for W&C alone is a good deal
ohbits a good price, but he should tell you about the free hql part
It’s not a combo class… they’re saying if you do the W&C class you get your HQL, which is true
Oh nice, like other states giving out free magazines before mag bans. Nice deal if you live nearby
That is a damn good deal. Might have to go for it
I paid $175.I refused to pay price gouging shops that claim they're for the people but inflated their prices directly after the ruling lol. Stopped doing business with a few shops that did that.
I'd prefer your way if I had a choice, but my time is worth more than the savings
Get it. There will be legal challenges dropping following SB1. And, as I always say, concealed is concealed.
What they don't know will only hurt their feelings 😎
Get it.
Get it! Keep the numbers going. Renewed mine last year and boy was that number way higher. Excellent to see. Also get it and join MSI if you haven't.
Don't forget that you can still carry pretty much unrestricted in your vehicle and that alone is worth the price with all the carjackings going on. See the CCW as carjacking insurance. You still have to make it from your vehicle to inside your home.More insurance.
Nope, it excludes carrying in your vehicle. You are able to transport in an unreachable location with everything unloaded and separate.. so if you're carjacked you can't defend yourself/your family.
Please research the bill. Without a wear & carry you must have the gun unloaded with ammo out of reach. With a wear and carry you can have a loaded firearm on you while in the vehicle. (Guns can be loaded and on your person/ loaded in a locked container with a W&C - suggesting a biometric safe for the car off Amazon) Please go to Maryland Shall Issue for a better understanding of SB1 restrictions Exceptions from carry restrictions: As noted, SB 1 creates exceptions from the bans in each of the two sections, Section 4-111 and Section 6-411, and those exceptions are different for each section. By definition, the exceptions are applicable only to the locations otherwise addressed by Section 4-111 or Section 6-411. The exceptions don't apply to other areas outside of those locations. As to these other areas, existing law continues to apply. The exceptions applicable to Section 4-111 are: - On private property, by persons authorized by the owner or lessee to wear and carry or transport a firearm for the purpose of employment as (1) a security guard OR (2) for the purpose of protecting any individual or property at the location with an express agreement between the parties, remuneration, or compensation. - On public property, at locations being used with the permission of the person or governmental unit that owns, leases, or controls the location for organized shooting activities for educational purposes, historical demonstrations using firearms, or hunting or target shooting -Firearms that are carried or transported in a motor vehicle if the firearm is locked in a container or handguns worn, carried, or transported in compliance with any limitations imposed under § 5-307 of the Public Safety Article by those who permits to wear, carry or transport handguns have been issued under Title 5, Subtitle 3 of the Public Safety Article. This does not affect transport of firearms under current law in areas unaffected by SB 1. -Law enforcement officials or police officers as defined under § 3-201 of the Public Safety Article -Members of the Armed Forces of the United States, the National Guard, or the Uniformed Services while on duty or traveling to or from duty -Members of an ROTC program while participating in an activity for an ROTC program -On-duty employees of a law enforcement agency authorized by the agency to possess firearms on duty or whose duty assignment involves the possession of firearms -Correctional officers or wardens of a correctional facility in the State -Railroad police officers appointed under Title 3, Subtitled 4 of the Public Safety Article -Employees of an armed car company, if acting under the scope of employment and has valid permits to wear, carry, or transport handguns issued under Title 5, Subtitle 3 of the Public Safety Article -Off-duty law enforcement officials or retired law enforcement officials in good standing from the United States, the State or another state, or a local unit in the State or another state who possesses a firearm if their badge or credential is carried in compliance with the requirements of the badge or credential and the firearm is carried or possessed by the official or person is concealed from view. (LEOSA)
> § 5-307 of the Public Safety Article by those who permits to wear, carry or transport handguns have been issued under Title 5, Subtitle 3 of the Public Safety Article exactly, unloaded out of reach and in separate containers, its meant to sound better but if you know how to read you'll see only officers or security maintain the right to have a bearable arm within reach, no private citizens without explicit consent.
You are wrong. This issue has already been addressed on this site. Unloaded and out of reach applies if you do not have a W&C even after 10-1-23, you can still have a loaded gun in your vehicle if you have a W&C in Md. Information posted clearly states. #### Exceptions from carry restrictions: #### -Firearms that are carried or transported in a motor vehicle if the firearm is locked in a container or handguns worn, carried, or transported in compliance with any limitations imposed under [§ 5-307 of the Public Safety Article](https://govt.westlaw.com/mdc/Document/N09472EC09CE711DB9BCF9DAC28345A2A?viewType=FullText&originationContext=documenttoc&transitionType=CategoryPageItem&contextData=(sc.Default)) by those who permits to wear, carry or transport handguns have been issued under [Title 5, Subtitle 3 of the Public Safety Article](https://govt.westlaw.com/mdc/Browse/Home/Maryland/MarylandCodeCourtRules?guid=N5D2759909CC211DB9BCF9DAC28345A2A&transitionType=Default&contextData=%28sc.Default%29#N09472EC09CE711DB9BCF9DAC28345A2A). This does not affect transport of firearms under current law in areas unaffected by SB 1.
I'm just letting you know I had a session with 3 republican senators who are addressing this. no matter what you decided you cannot carry a loaded gun in your vehicle in these geographic areas. there are many Offices to interpret it as you said but it is subject to the departments discretion so you are wrong. Your rights are gone. under 5-307 psa (b) The Secretary may limit the geographic area, circumstances, or times of the day, week, month, or year in which a permit is effective.
I would say that deal is almost to hard to pass up. But I would also say go for it because SB1 will go into affect but who knows for how long. Could be dragged through courts for years or be struck down within 12 months (not likely but you never know). One final point and to be that guy, never give up on your individual rights no matter how much they try and suppress it. But that’s just my opinion.
yes its worth it
Yes. Because you can use it to get your PA carry and the class qualifies you for Florida. You can then carry in most states of the union at that point.
No. While a MD permit will allow you to carry in VA and a number of other states, and will allow you to get a PA permit, Florida does NOT honor a Maryland permit.
But the class works for a Florida permit
And, if you spend time in Florida regularly, applying for a Florida permit (even a non-resident permit) is probably the right way to go. That said, sitting through a Florida class from a competent instructor who can go over the lay of the legal landscape for Florida carry is probably worth while.
Definitely still worth man. My only question is…let’s say they decide to reinstate the whole “you need a reason good enough to get a CCW” again…are we going to be grandfathered in if we had licenses prior to them bringing that back, IF they even try to?
No need to worry about that. The good reason clause was ruled unconstitutional and even Maryland has not been dumb enough to try to uphold it. They even state in the recent legislation that the good reason clause is no longer being enforced. They are just trying other stalling tactics like SB1.
Well that’s not only surprising, but reassuring as well lol. Thanks man. Was definitely something I was worried about. I was gonna be writing letters asking for some refunds 😂
Some people think you can't still carry in your vehicle but be well versed to explain the law to certain officers because they too appear not to know the law. I am probably going to get a lawyer to write a statement that I can carry around in the car!
I don’t see why? It’s still concealed if it’s in your car lol. I keep my holster on and put mine tucked away. I think cops will be more receptive and respectful if ppl were up front with it also. It is a fairly new thing in our atrocious state lol so they need to get used to it a little. Feel comfortable knowing how many people are packing. I have no issues making sure they’re comfortable so I don’t get shot. BUT you will definitely not be taking my hardware away lol.
Read *Bruen.*
That’s a great price, and I think everyone is pretty confident this will all get overturned eventually, so for $100 I’d do it. I got mine at the peak of freedom and paid like $600 just to carry for less then a year…
If you have to ask yourself that then maybe it's not. When I walk my dog around the neighborhood at night I wonder if a ccw is still worth it.. When I walk to the mailbox down the street I wonder if a ccw is still worth it.. When I'm putting gas in my car I wonder if ccw is still worth it.. When I walk into a gun store and want to buy a new gun because I already completed my HQL requirements I wonder if a ccw is still worth it..
Also Gives you “reciprocity” in other states
What states recognize MD that aren't Constitutional Carry? I think we're back to pre-Bruen and a UT is the simplest option.
Not necessarily reciprocal, but when you have md, you can get your pa ltcf, without any bs.
Virginia, for one
Virginia recognizes and PA allows you to get a non-resident permit.
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Yes
I'd say even if you think it's not worth it in the short term, I believe the training is good for 2 or 3 years. So IF the private property aspects get thrown out, you could submit your paperwork after. Still a win in my opinion. Like others have mentioned, Md's permit is accepted in a handful of states and gives you the ability to apply for PA's permit which will give you even more states. Also FL will accept MD's class as a substitute for their own.
You meant to say $300 for NWT's combined class.. At least that's what they show on their site. As got getting a CCW permit, do it! As you should know by now, they're going to make it harder and harder to do anything related to your self defense! And you're better off getting grandfathered into something, because you already have it, rather than having them pass more bogus laws that make it harder to get, down the road.
He’s doing a deal for $100 rn
How does one get this deal? I was speaking with a friend last night that was interested in a low cost class.
Reach out to him at the number provided. I just got the deal.
I would ask them if they are UT certified instructors as well. Good deal if you only want MD and a few other states. When I did mine, my instructor was Utah-certified so I can carry in almost every State. If they aren't Utah certified, your coughing up money for another class and sinking in more time.
SB1 is *blatantly* unconstitutional. It's employing tactics already called out in *Bruen* as impremissible. So, it's really only a matter of time before most, if not all of SB1 falls. The question isn't if, but how long before it happens.
I just got back from Texas. It’s worth it.