So I’m from a different state where we call sweet as “meeth” so you are going to get a lot of desserts instead.
Also another state I stayed would offer you fenugreek
Its the common form but not the only if you are in the US. There is the so called Wick VapoInhaler and these have L-Methamphetamin inside. Because they are inhaled they shouldn’t have the hydrochloride form of meth in it.
(I only had 2 years chemistry so don’t take my word for granted)
I meant just the ones appearing on the map, which I assume are the majority language in each area marked. Or maybe the most widely spoken language that is not Hindi besides Uttar Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh.
Just the fact that that is hard to discern actually reveals that there are definitely at least some labels and explanations missing from the map.
The origins are definitely what the comment is about though, Eastern India has no labels and it's so frustrating, I wanna know the origin for those too
only arunachal pradesh and mizoram dont have labels and thats because they have too many languages, thats why theyre labeled as various, and most of East India has labels
I can tell you that "uppu" country is comprised of the following languages: Malayalam, Kannada, Telegu, Tamil. They're the four primary languages of the Dravidian language family, which includes some other dialects and smaller languages mostly spoken in South India (though with the notable exception of Brahui, which is spoken in the Balochistan region of southwestern Pakistan).
In Bangladesh (in eastern side, can't speak for the whole country) I've heard more lobon than noon. My family never use noon. But I have heard it in the village.
The other person meant that lobon is a more formal word.
Diplomats often speak plethora of unanticipated jargon. They don't get wack shit coming out of their mouth.
I have spent a lot of time there. The guy that runs it does it as a passion project and is kind of a hero for the world in my book. I even discovered an indo European cognate he didn’t have one time and emailed him about. He didn’t say anything back, but a few weeks later he had added it in.
Unfortunately there is no consensus on how “Lavan” came to be. It’s used for both “salt” and “beauty”, like Lithuanian (another conservative IE language) does. But Lithuanian uses “saldus” which is cognate to “salt”.
Lithuania actually copy pasted their whole history or mythology from sanskrit corpus , i think post WW2 because they lost? some of their own . But yeah they loaned a lot of it from indo aryan .
Why Mizoram which is one of the few relatively homogenous states in the northeast 'various' while nagaland, a state where the largest ethnolinguistic group makes up barely 12% of the population just one single word?
Propaganda. Besides, they are only showing the Meitei word here for Manipur. What of half of Manipur? Who are not Meitei. Manipur and Nagaland should also be labeled as various, but no Manipur is only for Meitei right? So much so that, they even tried to make themselves a country-of only meiteis btw.
No wonder the state is in chaos. Racist government.
1L of water is 1000/18 moles
seawater is 1.33x10^9 cubic km which is 10^12 L
So 1.33x10^21 L.
Salt is 3.5% moles, so 2.586 x10^21 moles of salt
Just ordering 300 times the amount of salt in the ocean
This is a bit of a generalisation. There are regional languages within states in India (not just dialects, totally different languages) which will have different words for salt. Good map anyway, it would be impossible to make a fully accurate map with sub state boundaries.
I get the feeling that it might’ve been lun or smth similar in Hindi and Bengali but was later replaced by namak when Persian became the language of the elites.
I'm from Mizoram (Mizoland). The state which is marked as "Various" in the south of northeast India. We just call it "Chi". I don't know why the stupid op just tagged it as various while nagaland, a state which is so much more diverse in tribes that it has to use the language of Assam, is not labelled as "Various".
But apart from some areas of the NorthEast, English is not the sole official language of any state nor the most spoken. That's what this list seems to be based on.
Nope. Hindi is the sole official language for a number of states including Bihar, UP and Haryana. English is not. And the areas that don't speak Hindi likely speak another Indian language where that is the sole official language (e.g. Gujarati in Gujarat or Telugu in Telangana).
Except of some uneducated hyper-nationalistic types, nobody really cares. Even the educated RW people recognize how closely related Old iranian (Avestan) and Sanskrit were, and how many cognates these languages share.
When it comes to Arabic or Turkish loanwords, though, that's a different story.
Yeah... no. Indian here. In urban places, everyone knows atleast basic english. If you visit villages or rural areas, salt won't fly. Namak though is more or less understood everywhere in india.
Not sure if you are serious, but anyway: meth is short for "methamphetamine". The "meth" part of the word is a backformation of "methyl", which in turn comes from "methylene", a word made up by French chemists based on 2 Ancient Greek words, the first of which, methu, means wine. So technically, "meth" comes from an Ancient Greek word for wine (which is incidentally related to the Sanskrit word for "honey").
The Gujarati and Marathi words deriving from Sanskrit here have no discernible connection to the above.
Either way, neither meth nor meeth have anything to do with the substances in question being crystalline.
Fascinating! How is caste system called in every language? How is murdering your political opponents called? Is there word in every language for indoors plumbing?
Please not that, that is not proto dravidian script and whether it was actually a thing is still debated, but lexical analysis point to there being some sort of lone words within the dravidian languages, there is no definitive evidence that proto dravidian is the common ancestor of all these languages.
Coastal regions with Sanskrit descended languages having unclean meaning salt makes a lot of sense. “Unclean water” = “salt water” = ocean as opposed to clean fresh drinking water.
I’ll have a kilo of Meeth please. The blue one, yes.
Yeah that comment was full
Whether we have Sum Meeth or Nun, I’d give this the Thum Uppu.
That's namkin mate... here's an upvote
Waltuh
Put yo dick away waltuh
I'm not having sex with you right now, Waltuh.
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So I’m from a different state where we call sweet as “meeth” so you are going to get a lot of desserts instead. Also another state I stayed would offer you fenugreek
Fenu greek matlab methi?
There is actually meth salt… it’s the hydrochloride form of it
A.k.a the only form in which it is commonly available.
Its the common form but not the only if you are in the US. There is the so called Wick VapoInhaler and these have L-Methamphetamin inside. Because they are inhaled they shouldn’t have the hydrochloride form of meth in it. (I only had 2 years chemistry so don’t take my word for granted)
Benzedrex, the stupid teens meth that also comes with a really nice tummy ache
"Krishna, Priya! They're minerals!"
Jesse we need to cook.
Say my Namak!
Crystal meeth?
Is it up to Pollos standards?
It's actually pronounced like t in tomato
"Meeth" sounds way more like "meat" with an Indian accent. It used to confuse me a lot when talking with my family as a child
What accent?? मिठ = meeth and मीट = meat both, ट & ठ, have distinct pronunciations in Indian languages.
Mumbai I think. The aspiration is a little less noticeable at the end of a word
The mountain goats that climb vertical are meeeth addicts to the core. They literally die without.
Meethu
Pass the uppu. Thanks. I could get use to that.
We just say uppedu
Thank you for teaching me something today however little it might have been. I hope to pass it on to the next stranger. ❤️
We just say uppu in telugu.
Uppedu in Malayalam means take/pass the salt. Uppu is same in all South Indian languages.
And it is pronounced as Oo/pu instead of up/pu.
Might come in handy if you ever visit Kerala in the future ❤️
But in Tamil Nadu from the short periods I’ve visited I believe we j say “uppu” in Tamil.
Uppedu doesn't mean salt. It means 'take/pass the salt'. Same in Tamil, Malayalam, Tulu and Telugu. Source: I'm from Tamil Nadu.
Tamil isn't the entirety of south India 😑
In Tulu, uppad is pickle.
Meetuh salty, meetuh…
Put your lun away meetuh
😅lun laina lun? edit: for the uninitiated, its not supposed to be 'lun' but 'loon' . loon is salt, lun is dick.
# #MeToo
My pet name growing up was Mithu
Would be nicer to have all the languages labeled, too.
There would easily be hundreds of labels on this map then :’)
I meant just the ones appearing on the map, which I assume are the majority language in each area marked. Or maybe the most widely spoken language that is not Hindi besides Uttar Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh. Just the fact that that is hard to discern actually reveals that there are definitely at least some labels and explanations missing from the map.
There's only 4 unlabelled (6 if you count Various) colors on the map
Those are the origins of each word, not which languages they’re currently used in.
The origins are definitely what the comment is about though, Eastern India has no labels and it's so frustrating, I wanna know the origin for those too
Oh I see now. Yeah, the north east gets overlooked a lot.
only arunachal pradesh and mizoram dont have labels and thats because they have too many languages, thats why theyre labeled as various, and most of East India has labels
No, the map only shows the most spoken language in every state.
I can tell you that "uppu" country is comprised of the following languages: Malayalam, Kannada, Telegu, Tamil. They're the four primary languages of the Dravidian language family, which includes some other dialects and smaller languages mostly spoken in South India (though with the notable exception of Brahui, which is spoken in the Balochistan region of southwestern Pakistan).
\*Telugu
'Lobon' is formal language. In West Bengal, we almost always use the word 'noon'.
Same in Odia. Labana is formal, luna is informal.
Labana was my crush in school
You should've tasted her. She must've been tasted salty.
Yup am from Calcutta living in America, and my parents never said lobon, first time I’ve heard it! Noon is the word.
In Bangladesh (in eastern side, can't speak for the whole country) I've heard more lobon than noon. My family never use noon. But I have heard it in the village.
Lobon is also used in spoken language. Do remember that Bengal has many accents of Bengali.
Same with Bihar, we use "nimak" and "noon" in our local languages.
Huh? My parents say lobon, and they do not speak formally.
What's formal language? How does it differ from spoken (informal?) language? Or is formal language also spoken? Sorry, not familiar with the concept.
The other person meant that lobon is a more formal word. Diplomats often speak plethora of unanticipated jargon. They don't get wack shit coming out of their mouth.
Same, my husband from Kolkata taught me noon
In Romani, an Indian language now exclusively spoken outside of India, the word for salt is Lund, kinda similar to Rajasthani and Punjabi
How's is pronounced tho? Also, hello, the descendant of the first NRIs.
L-oh-nd
Phew then, otherwise "Lund" pronounced L-uh-nd in the subcontinent means penis.
oh no 😂, for us kar means penis which is also on the map
Lol, languages came full circle 😅
I wonder if these sanskrit words have any english cognates
You might be able to find some by messing around in etymonline.com. It’s pretty comprehensive.
seems like a website I could waste hours on tbf
I have spent a lot of time there. The guy that runs it does it as a passion project and is kind of a hero for the world in my book. I even discovered an indo European cognate he didn’t have one time and emailed him about. He didn’t say anything back, but a few weeks later he had added it in.
Unfortunately there is no consensus on how “Lavan” came to be. It’s used for both “salt” and “beauty”, like Lithuanian (another conservative IE language) does. But Lithuanian uses “saldus” which is cognate to “salt”.
Lavan means "white" in Hebrew, probably similar in Arabic or other semitic languages. Maybe they're just called it that white stuff.
In arabic we say « abyad » أبيض
Yeah i wonder if its a coincidence or not
Lithuania actually copy pasted their whole history or mythology from sanskrit corpus , i think post WW2 because they lost? some of their own . But yeah they loaned a lot of it from indo aryan .
Why Mizoram which is one of the few relatively homogenous states in the northeast 'various' while nagaland, a state where the largest ethnolinguistic group makes up barely 12% of the population just one single word?
Propaganda. Besides, they are only showing the Meitei word here for Manipur. What of half of Manipur? Who are not Meitei. Manipur and Nagaland should also be labeled as various, but no Manipur is only for Meitei right? So much so that, they even tried to make themselves a country-of only meiteis btw. No wonder the state is in chaos. Racist government.
Oh look the Kangleipak dislike squad is here too
It's Loon as in Noon and Moon.
Yea I got so confused and then I remembered learning it in punjabi class. Lun is used for....something else commonly here in punjab lol.
I'm glad it wasn't just me haha
The famous university in Sweden yes.
Lmao, yes, the top class Lund University!
lun and lūn have quite the different meanings
Please pass 6.022 ×10^23 moles of sodium chloride
2.35225 kg of salt comin right up
You realise 1 mole of NaCl is 58g of NaCl? So 6.022x 10²³ moles = 58gx 6.022x 10²³?? That's 3.49x10¹⁹ tonnes.
1L of water is 1000/18 moles seawater is 1.33x10^9 cubic km which is 10^12 L So 1.33x10^21 L. Salt is 3.5% moles, so 2.586 x10^21 moles of salt Just ordering 300 times the amount of salt in the ocean
I'm from one of central state and it's called "noon" here in local dialect, don't know why you would put namak for.
You can mention the state. There are millions of us Indians on reddit alone, no one will recognise who you are.
I recognize you, Ramesh.
Which central state are you from?
Chhattisgarh
Oh is it in the surgujia language that your talking about or ChhattisgarhI?
No surgujia, just chhattisgarhi.
Really? In Telugu we call oil noon. I think in Punjabi they call salt 'noon" too. What language is it? Chhattisgarhi?
That’s nune (noon+eh)
Rei , noon is different from "noon+eh".
Yeah chhattisgarhi.But don't know if it's regional as in district level or everywhere in chhattisgarh.
So piccolo is originally from the planet salt?
Noon in kashmiri
I love noon chai
Love these etymology/word comparison maps.
Lonu in Dhivehi (spoken) in the Maldives. Surprised that it doesn’t have Proto-Dravidian roots.
Odisha ☠️
People from the north-east : I'll take a kg of various.
Lol gujrat calls salt meeth which sounds like meetha or sweet .. now we know why they put sugar in all their dishes.
Prachand chutiya
My family is from Gujarat, no known ancestral connection to any other state, and everyone calls it namak.
Lund?
Looण not Lund
retroflex nasal my beloved
This is a bit of a generalisation. There are regional languages within states in India (not just dialects, totally different languages) which will have different words for salt. Good map anyway, it would be impossible to make a fully accurate map with sub state boundaries.
It's not LUN it's Loon.
I get the feeling that it might’ve been lun or smth similar in Hindi and Bengali but was later replaced by namak when Persian became the language of the elites.
Ah yes, I would like some table various please
This food could use some "various" & pepper
Namak is the closest to NaCl, so I choose that one.
Interesting
Punjabis: Lun?
Namak shamak?
I'm from Mizoram (Mizoland). The state which is marked as "Various" in the south of northeast India. We just call it "Chi". I don't know why the stupid op just tagged it as various while nagaland, a state which is so much more diverse in tribes that it has to use the language of Assam, is not labelled as "Various".
Can you sell me a handful of meth, my dear sir?
That's why it's spelled Meeth not meth. Alternative spelling could be MITH.
Lun? As in penis?
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It is, if you add a 'd' at the end
The pronunciation is loon,. Penis is lund
I am from Jharkhand and in our dialect it is called 'Noon' !
Sometimes is just salt, since you can speak english too...
But apart from some areas of the NorthEast, English is not the sole official language of any state nor the most spoken. That's what this list seems to be based on.
Just like some areas don't speak hindi too, so my argument of sometimes being just salt keeps valid.
Nope. Hindi is the sole official language for a number of states including Bihar, UP and Haryana. English is not. And the areas that don't speak Hindi likely speak another Indian language where that is the sole official language (e.g. Gujarati in Gujarat or Telugu in Telangana).
Namak is what majority of speakers say
India is twice as populated as Europe
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Europe is twice populated by Indians than India populated by European.
O-okay.
Random much?
Ok????
And your point is?
Whats your point?
OMG Namak is from Persian. Time to ban that word and pick one from Sanskrit to upkeep our bharatiyata. Let all chaddis assemble here.
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Except of some uneducated hyper-nationalistic types, nobody really cares. Even the educated RW people recognize how closely related Old iranian (Avestan) and Sanskrit were, and how many cognates these languages share. When it comes to Arabic or Turkish loanwords, though, that's a different story.
Ya, I know I’m late, but I’m from Bihar, In Bhojpuri Salt is called as nimak (निमक) but in Maithili it is called Nun (नून), don’t know about Magahi.
More?
wtf is lun
its لونڑ mein bhi confuse ho gya tha ke kya behuda map bnaya ha.
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Yeah... no. Indian here. In urban places, everyone knows atleast basic english. If you visit villages or rural areas, salt won't fly. Namak though is more or less understood everywhere in india.
Yeah that comment was full of shit. I always say uppu in telugu when speaking to family.
Lmao, I'm from tamilnadu and just got to know namak means salt. I fail to understand how hindians think hindi is just understood everywhere in India
Is there any linguistic connection with meeth and meth? Both are basically crystals and look the same...?
Not sure if you are serious, but anyway: meth is short for "methamphetamine". The "meth" part of the word is a backformation of "methyl", which in turn comes from "methylene", a word made up by French chemists based on 2 Ancient Greek words, the first of which, methu, means wine. So technically, "meth" comes from an Ancient Greek word for wine (which is incidentally related to the Sanskrit word for "honey"). The Gujarati and Marathi words deriving from Sanskrit here have no discernible connection to the above. Either way, neither meth nor meeth have anything to do with the substances in question being crystalline.
Damn, as I read through that I was hoping that PIE does its magic again. Seems like not this time
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You forgot the D after Lun
Haha lun
I am from one of those pink regions and have never heard the word 'लूण'/'lun' before.
Why did they misspell Meth as Meeth?
Meeth is more pure than Meth.
Bs I've never heard of anything other than namak
avg uneducated bimaru resident
Tf I'm from Maharashtra
Yourmom
yo I don't think that's salt, marathis and gujratis
Fascinating! How is caste system called in every language? How is murdering your political opponents called? Is there word in every language for indoors plumbing?
uppu cut is a legit move against ghosts now. Meanwhile pass me that lun. *Sexual harrasment ensues.
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Yeah, murdering Canadian terrorists while their PM alleges that they're peaceful plumbers.
Canadian source : Trust me bro
The correct answer is curry.
The correct answer is [this.](https://youtu.be/7C18au9FSxU?t=59)
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Please not that, that is not proto dravidian script and whether it was actually a thing is still debated, but lexical analysis point to there being some sort of lone words within the dravidian languages, there is no definitive evidence that proto dravidian is the common ancestor of all these languages.
I cant Meet Thum because i have Meeth in my teeth
Jesse, we need to dig salt
Yellow guys on the west be using dragonborn thuum to salt things bruh
In WB we say noon. Lobon is a very formal term.
In Bihar nun is also used
Its time to learn a new Thum, dragonborn
In my entire life I’ve never heard a Bengali call salt ‘Laban’. I’ve always heard people call it ‘noon’
We, in Bengal, don't call it Laban anymore since the 1950s. It's noon here now.
Interesting because meetha in Hindi means sweet
Don't they say "noon" in West Bengal? Where is that from?
Coastal regions with Sanskrit descended languages having unclean meaning salt makes a lot of sense. “Unclean water” = “salt water” = ocean as opposed to clean fresh drinking water.
Wait, lun?