Op, I have been a moderator for years on this sub, but this account has gotten too much harassment so opened an alt, and that is the account you see, u/BlueberryBubblyBuzz (notice the fruit and the alliteration and the banned pictues in each.) If you go look at how long I have been modding here, you will not be able to see, because I left and came back, but you will see that my postition is second on the modteam list, right under Belle.
Your post will not be restored. These commenters are not trolls, you can see that by looking at their accounts. You made a bad post that pits women and LGBTQ people against each other and you made it seem like the LGBTQ community had not been persecuted before, when they still do not have the amount of rights as women, not to mention that tons of women ARE LGBTQ so they are not even seperate communites. I am LGBTQ and I take offense to this and so did others. The correct course of action would have been to apologize and say that you did not mean offense but you undestand why everyone was upset.
Also, the appropiate thing to do is to go to modmail if you have an issue. If you would like to discuss this there, feel free to do so.
Oh, only since recorded history.
While we were fucking other human-like species into extinction, I'm sure we were mighty tolerant of non-heterosexual behaviour.
yup , just like christianity.
It has ALWAYS followed the teachings of christ up until Trump got a hold of the evangelical vote.
NOW christianity has become so corrupt
just like the lgbtq community has always lived in harmony with the rest of society and never been persecuted until NOW
/s
There are people who become enraged and insist that LGBTQ people are a new phenomena because of the history of people hiding their personalities to avoid persecution and almost certain murder.
Much like there were suddenly more left handed people when it stopped being a sign of satanic or demonic possession.
Three religions, and I am going to get people pissed off at this, created because someone tossed a woman in the desert who got pregnant as the wife, Sarai, of Abram wanted her to do. Pretty hateful towards the LGBTQ + community ( They can mostly agree on that)
WTH! LGBTQ + community has always been targeted and oppressed. Moral majority, Anita Bryant and her orange juice crap, and AIDS at the beginning of the fight. Stupid
It's probably directed at the gay conservatives who insist that all this rhetoric is truly about protecting kids from pedos and groomers.
Rather than an expression by homophobic conservatives that the only reason why kids can also be LGBT is because somewhere, somehow they got abused.
This meme is dumb. This meme implies that the persecution of lgbtq+ people is something new compared to the persecution of women, when both classes have been persecuted throughout history.
This meme feels like something meant to cause meaningless infighting about which group is more oppressed.
Gotta love election season, where memes are made online to radicalize and factionalize people! It doesn't help some popular "left wing" subs were taken over by right-wingers and now post shit to get people infighting. I legit saw people saying that "I'm a leftist and I think Trump is a better option than Biden" and other people were believing it despite it being an obvious false flag.
I'm just gay-up going to assume, for the rest of the year, that anyone making those "don't vote, Biden is just as bad as Trump" posts is a bad actor trying to sabotage the election. I saw this same tactic in 2020 and 2016. I'm not falling for it.
If voting didn't do anything, Republicans wouldn't be trying so hard to repress voting rights. It's not a panacea by any means, but staying at home and making memes about "both sides bad!" isn't doing anything either.
Just get your ass to the polls and then donate to the PCRF. Right now, we need to keep Project 2025 from coming to fruition.
How does this have ANY upvotes? This is an incredibly asinine take. At what point in time has the LGBTQ ever been safe from right wing terrorists?
FFS the actual Nazis for which this sub is named went after the LGBTQ community immediately after grabbing power.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_homosexuals_in_Nazi_Germany
The passage of paragraph 175 of the German Criminal Code which they used to imprison members of the community had in fact been signed into law since 1871.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragraph_175
Oscar Wilde would like a word. Like the only time I can think of when being gay was not persecuted was ancient Greece, and that was probably only true for the wealthy Patrician families.
and that honestly, wasn't really gay. that was older men taking advantage of young boys, and when the young boys got older, they grew out of it. it was heavily frowned upon to be the reciever, only the giver.
so basically, it was pedophilia, not homosexuality
yeah, no.
this is both trying to drive a wedge between various leftist groups, AND implying that LGBTQIA+ people have not been persecuted until recently, which anyone with a brain knows is a complete falsehood.
so f whoever made this meme, and f the OP for posting it.
I'd downvote this if I could.
The Oppression Olympics is counterproductive.
Also, LGBT+ folks aren't newly oppressed. Shit's been going on for *millennia*.
This is a very stupid meme. It was literally illegal to practice homosexuality in this country until like the 60s. Police used to regularly raid gay bars and arrest everyone there. Gay people weren’t allowed to marry until 2015. Women’s rights are being taken away but this meme format makes absolutely zero sense in reference to LGBT people
Until the 60s? Lawrence vs Texas (the SCOTUS decision which shut down sodomy laws still in effect across various states) only happened in 2003. I'm afraid the Lawrence decision is going to be a prime target shortly.
This is a bad meme and you should feel bad, this would not be the LGBTQ community's "first time" getting persecuted, I mean they have had a few rights for like a minute and those were hard fought and not absolute.
This has been removed and I would love to know why you did not respond to any of the comments with legitimate criticism but that is probably not going to happen, so just know I will be discussing with other mods if there should be further mod actions taken.
Seriously? Damnnnn although it says we both left our comments two hours ago so it could have just been that you loaded reddit before I removed it and then saw it after I did. I mean but reddit is also spectacularly bad at its job too, so it def could just be that. I could not even click on your comment from my list of notifications on the resedesign. It kept telling me "comment has been removed" so I thought you blocked me or something, but it happened on the other comments too, so I had to open it it in new reddit (which by that I mean old reddit, but not old old reddit, and this shit is getting confusing.) I have to use 3 versions of reddit and my mobile device to just to do all the stuff I am supposed to be allowed to do on all of them.
Ok that was a rant and half but I just so annoyed by the redesign, although I do think it looks good, but it just does not function very well and is super slow too :(((
Oh! Maybe? I guess I didn’t look at the timestamp enough to make note one way or another, though it would also not be the first time it’s happened and those other posts I know I arrived hours after the post was allegedly removed for whatever reason
You seem to forget that it's really only in the last few decades that you could be openly gay without being arrested for it. Like it just flat out used to be illegal to be gay in the US until the 60s or so (sometimes later depending on the state).
Bro...
Sodomy laws were only struck down in 03....
Stonewall...Castration...republicans would like laws that execute gay people SIMPLY for being gay, groomer and basically blood libel, celebrations of mass shootings against us.
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What the fuck is this? Are you a goddamn TERF or something? This is so condescending, SMUG AF, and, frankly, stupid. Do you think queer people JUST started getting legislated against? Are you somehow not aware that their right to exist has NEVER been legal in every US state and a lot of them only legalized or let laws lapse that criminalized being queer during the last, like, 15 years? Also, are you SERIOUSLY not aware that like, half of all queer people are women?
Is this a joke? Are you trolling? Or just dense? Maybe some combo? And who here is vector stupid enough to be upvoting this? Are we getting brigade or something?
Goddamn what a dumb post.
(deep sigh) Here you go, OP, since you clearly need it: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality)
Op, I have been a moderator for years on this sub, but this account has gotten too much harassment so opened an alt, and that is the account you see, u/BlueberryBubblyBuzz (notice the fruit and the alliteration and the banned pictues in each.) If you go look at how long I have been modding here, you will not be able to see, because I left and came back, but you will see that my postition is second on the modteam list, right under Belle. Your post will not be restored. These commenters are not trolls, you can see that by looking at their accounts. You made a bad post that pits women and LGBTQ people against each other and you made it seem like the LGBTQ community had not been persecuted before, when they still do not have the amount of rights as women, not to mention that tons of women ARE LGBTQ so they are not even seperate communites. I am LGBTQ and I take offense to this and so did others. The correct course of action would have been to apologize and say that you did not mean offense but you undestand why everyone was upset. Also, the appropiate thing to do is to go to modmail if you have an issue. If you would like to discuss this there, feel free to do so.
Call me crazy but I have a hunch the lgbt community *may* have been persecuted in the past once or twice.
Like consistently and forever lol?
Oh, only since recorded history. While we were fucking other human-like species into extinction, I'm sure we were mighty tolerant of non-heterosexual behaviour.
This meme is literally downplaying how bad it is for them.
What is this even trying to say? Do you think LGBTQ+ people have had an easy ride, and are first now being persecuted?
yup , just like christianity. It has ALWAYS followed the teachings of christ up until Trump got a hold of the evangelical vote. NOW christianity has become so corrupt just like the lgbtq community has always lived in harmony with the rest of society and never been persecuted until NOW /s
There are people who become enraged and insist that LGBTQ people are a new phenomena because of the history of people hiding their personalities to avoid persecution and almost certain murder. Much like there were suddenly more left handed people when it stopped being a sign of satanic or demonic possession.
Three religions, and I am going to get people pissed off at this, created because someone tossed a woman in the desert who got pregnant as the wife, Sarai, of Abram wanted her to do. Pretty hateful towards the LGBTQ + community ( They can mostly agree on that) WTH! LGBTQ + community has always been targeted and oppressed. Moral majority, Anita Bryant and her orange juice crap, and AIDS at the beginning of the fight. Stupid
There were a lot more Christians that actually followed Jesus before Pat Robertsons 700 club death cult got mainstream
I thought that too. They are being oppressed now?
It's a deliberate attempt to pit one target of fascism against another. It's not even remotely subtle.
It's probably directed at the gay conservatives who insist that all this rhetoric is truly about protecting kids from pedos and groomers. Rather than an expression by homophobic conservatives that the only reason why kids can also be LGBT is because somewhere, somehow they got abused.
Yet at the same time Republicans want to legalize marriage to 12 year olds.
10 year olds in Arizona!
I'm sorry, WHAT?! That is absolutely revolting and disturbing. 16 is bad enough, but 12 or 10?!
The hypocrisy is intentional and proudly performed. It is the very central pillar of fascism.
This meme is dumb. This meme implies that the persecution of lgbtq+ people is something new compared to the persecution of women, when both classes have been persecuted throughout history. This meme feels like something meant to cause meaningless infighting about which group is more oppressed.
It also ignores that half of LGBTQ+ people are women. They are not mutually exclusive.
The first brick at Stonewall was thrown by a trans woman ffs!
They also left out that Conservatives are the ones persecuting both.
Pick one. This meme was: * Made by an idiot * Made to factionalize the left * Both
Gotta love election season, where memes are made online to radicalize and factionalize people! It doesn't help some popular "left wing" subs were taken over by right-wingers and now post shit to get people infighting. I legit saw people saying that "I'm a leftist and I think Trump is a better option than Biden" and other people were believing it despite it being an obvious false flag.
I'm just gay-up going to assume, for the rest of the year, that anyone making those "don't vote, Biden is just as bad as Trump" posts is a bad actor trying to sabotage the election. I saw this same tactic in 2020 and 2016. I'm not falling for it. If voting didn't do anything, Republicans wouldn't be trying so hard to repress voting rights. It's not a panacea by any means, but staying at home and making memes about "both sides bad!" isn't doing anything either. Just get your ass to the polls and then donate to the PCRF. Right now, we need to keep Project 2025 from coming to fruition.
Maybe we should just respond to this with "go away fed"
Both
How does this have ANY upvotes? This is an incredibly asinine take. At what point in time has the LGBTQ ever been safe from right wing terrorists? FFS the actual Nazis for which this sub is named went after the LGBTQ community immediately after grabbing power. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_homosexuals_in_Nazi_Germany The passage of paragraph 175 of the German Criminal Code which they used to imprison members of the community had in fact been signed into law since 1871. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragraph_175
This is a stupid meme. Erase this.
Let’s not make it a contest, LGBTQ people have been persecuted across most of history, as have women
Oscar Wilde would like a word. Like the only time I can think of when being gay was not persecuted was ancient Greece, and that was probably only true for the wealthy Patrician families.
and that honestly, wasn't really gay. that was older men taking advantage of young boys, and when the young boys got older, they grew out of it. it was heavily frowned upon to be the reciever, only the giver. so basically, it was pedophilia, not homosexuality
Alan Turing also chiming in. Mods should remove this post.
I just removed it and left a top comment for Op
yeah, no. this is both trying to drive a wedge between various leftist groups, AND implying that LGBTQIA+ people have not been persecuted until recently, which anyone with a brain knows is a complete falsehood. so f whoever made this meme, and f the OP for posting it.
I'd downvote this if I could. The Oppression Olympics is counterproductive. Also, LGBT+ folks aren't newly oppressed. Shit's been going on for *millennia*.
Why could you not downvote it? And I have removed it, sorry it was up for so long!!
This is a very stupid meme. It was literally illegal to practice homosexuality in this country until like the 60s. Police used to regularly raid gay bars and arrest everyone there. Gay people weren’t allowed to marry until 2015. Women’s rights are being taken away but this meme format makes absolutely zero sense in reference to LGBT people
Until the 60s? Lawrence vs Texas (the SCOTUS decision which shut down sodomy laws still in effect across various states) only happened in 2003. I'm afraid the Lawrence decision is going to be a prime target shortly.
Reality called, and op forgot to pick up the phone. Imma just hit that block button and improve my experience here ever so sightly more lmao
Because queer people haven’t ever been discriminated against in the history of history?
This is a bad meme and you should feel bad, this would not be the LGBTQ community's "first time" getting persecuted, I mean they have had a few rights for like a minute and those were hard fought and not absolute. This has been removed and I would love to know why you did not respond to any of the comments with legitimate criticism but that is probably not going to happen, so just know I will be discussing with other mods if there should be further mod actions taken.
I am still getting suggested it in my home feed. Reddit is so spectacularly bad at its job
Seriously? Damnnnn although it says we both left our comments two hours ago so it could have just been that you loaded reddit before I removed it and then saw it after I did. I mean but reddit is also spectacularly bad at its job too, so it def could just be that. I could not even click on your comment from my list of notifications on the resedesign. It kept telling me "comment has been removed" so I thought you blocked me or something, but it happened on the other comments too, so I had to open it it in new reddit (which by that I mean old reddit, but not old old reddit, and this shit is getting confusing.) I have to use 3 versions of reddit and my mobile device to just to do all the stuff I am supposed to be allowed to do on all of them. Ok that was a rant and half but I just so annoyed by the redesign, although I do think it looks good, but it just does not function very well and is super slow too :(((
Oh! Maybe? I guess I didn’t look at the timestamp enough to make note one way or another, though it would also not be the first time it’s happened and those other posts I know I arrived hours after the post was allegedly removed for whatever reason
It’s really giving white feminism
Idk man, I think there’s a reason people pretend not to be gay but women don’t generally disguise themselves as dudes
You seem to forget that it's really only in the last few decades that you could be openly gay without being arrested for it. Like it just flat out used to be illegal to be gay in the US until the 60s or so (sometimes later depending on the state).
OP: “Stonewall was just a fun party! Also, what’s a lesbian?”
How does this trash have 600 up votes?
man this shit is ignorant lol
I don't think this is giving the message you think it's giving.
i don’t know about you but women weren’t executed for being women in the <1800s
libs thinking queer people only existed after the legalization of gay marriage in the united states of america and nowhere else
Bro... Sodomy laws were only struck down in 03.... Stonewall...Castration...republicans would like laws that execute gay people SIMPLY for being gay, groomer and basically blood libel, celebrations of mass shootings against us. What is this?
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What movie is this meme from?
Ballad of Buster Scruggs on Netflix.
Great movie.
I know people get tired of the references to Russia, but the orange bastard “killing” FISA is just kind of obvious now
Republicans are traitors. Vote them ALL out.
I'm still waiting for them to legally classify all non-whites as non-humans.
I get what this was aiming for, but.....no
...like... no, it's definitely not our first time?
What the fuck is this? Are you a goddamn TERF or something? This is so condescending, SMUG AF, and, frankly, stupid. Do you think queer people JUST started getting legislated against? Are you somehow not aware that their right to exist has NEVER been legal in every US state and a lot of them only legalized or let laws lapse that criminalized being queer during the last, like, 15 years? Also, are you SERIOUSLY not aware that like, half of all queer people are women? Is this a joke? Are you trolling? Or just dense? Maybe some combo? And who here is vector stupid enough to be upvoting this? Are we getting brigade or something? Goddamn what a dumb post.
Don’t fucking do oppression olympics
terfs suck
(deep sigh) Here you go, OP, since you clearly need it: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality)
This has a scarily high number of upvotes