Part of that is because the odds on that box are set so you're twice as likely to pull a series 4 card than a series 5 card. If you're series 4 complete that means on average you'll only get a chance to pull a new card once every three tries.
They keep pretending that there are more series 4 cards than there are. Like how nearly every upcoming spotlight has one series 5 and one series 4 (or series 5 that is dropping soon), which is unsustainable without constantly recycling the same cards in spotlights unless they actually keep series 4 and 5 relatively similar in size.
Notice how the most impactful series 5 cards are the least likely to show up in spotlight caches
Look at the big cards that haven’t been in a spotlight in a while- iron lad, Loki, annihilus, ALIOTH (hasn’t been in a spotlight since 2023 lmao)
They hold back the cards that people are most likely to want
Is there actual data to back this up? I don't remember every random spotlight I've gotten, but I know I've gotten at least 5 S5 card from them, a few of which later dropped in January. That said, I don't really keep track of duplicates I get, but I know I've gotten X-23 a few times.
How do we know it’s not rigged?
Has their RNG been certified by a third party? Casinos usually have to have their slots and other rng machines checked and certified by an outside entity
The ONE time it gave me a new card was when I was opening for War Machine. Gave me Hercules 💀 I was so mad trying to gaslighting myself "at least is a new card for the collection" xD
I was hyped about those but they never came. Would make my first series 5 pull that was ghost a little better.
Edit: It was with the old system, I got here from a collector reserve.
I bought so many bad cards for 6k tokens like mold, howard and stegron because I thought it would be cool to have first ed badges on cards most people wouldnt buy lol
Yeah I'd have been more upset if I'd gotten Martyr as my random variant than the Dupe I got of Zemo.
Martyr is the only series drop heading to series 3 I don't own and I miss pushing that free claim button.
I did the risky click and got a duplicate Snowguard and Sasquatch on key 2.
I’m missing Martyr, Howard, Mirage and Silver Samurai so I started hoarding my collectors caches again. After this series drop though, the only pool 4 I’ll be missing is Lady Deathstrike so my Mystery Card is going to be 67% guaranteed 1,000 tokens.
The bigger problem is the 1k tokens. You need to get SIX duplicates to buy a series five card. That means you lose SIX keys in order to get ONE series five card. I have no idea how they think that is balanced. Either up the tokens or put in duplicate protection.
>I have no idea how they think that is balanced.
That's the best part—they don't. They've never tried to create a balanced system in any regard. It's a system designed to be unbalanced in a way that feels terrible for the player and drives FOMO.
> Dupe protection should be 100% implemented in situations like this
You can file that under "shit SD will never do"
The best we can hope for is more tokens from dups imo. Maybe 1200 or 1400 instead of 1000
That's exactly what happened to me. Pulled Havok twice in a row. And I haven't played in a year, I am missing all of the cards released in a year.
There should be dupe protection at least against the 3 cards in the cache. That and increasing the token conversion rate to 1.5k for S4 and 3k for S5.
Yea that and getting tokens instead of a new card are just straight up bad feelings this game gives out.
There's not many things that make me want to drop the game outright but using your 1 and only key in a week and coming away with 1000 tokens when there were 4 potential new cards is an absolute gut punch and easily the worst feeling this game can give you.
I am only missing a handful of cards, and I actually prefer the 1k tokens over the variants.
9 out of 10 spotlight weeks for me are new card, 2 spotlight variants, and the "mystery card" aka 1k tokens.
I'd much rather get 1k tokens than my 3rd Knull spotlight variant. As tokens at least give me something. I wish we could have the option to take 1k tokens instead of spotlight variants.
Yea, I'm not at that poin,t yet so that's why i specified "4 new cards " available
I don't spend much on this game and don't get my weekly 1.5 keys or whatever you can earn so most spotlights have atleast 3 new cards for me at this point so it's certainly unrewarding to walk away with something I can't immediately play with
I'm just going to say it.
Spotlight is trash.
1K token if you get duplicate.
Too many options if you want to get new card.
They need to fix this system.
Nor should you have to spend all 4 on multiple weeks to get the ONE card you don’t have.
Something about that doesn’t seem ‘random’. Shit just make it a tier system where I have to spend all 4 to get the new card of the week but keys are easier to get.
Even if they don't implement full dupe protection, they should at the very least make the random card *not include the other three in the spotlight*. OP might value the variant even less than 1000 tokens.
I have 33 keys saved bc I refused to pull unless I need 2 cards at minimum, and they had better be useful. I got all 3 today and USAgent as a 4th, whom I did not have.
It should be: new card-2 old cards or variants
And the last slot either:
-A ultimate card variant.
-Let you choose one of several premium variants.
-Any card that you don’t own.
1000 credits is trash.
As much as I hate new currency, I almost feel like they should add something for this specifically, especially if they're talking about adding a spotlight shop in the future?
Like the currency could be based around "used keys" or broken keys or something, and on pulls that have less value, you would get more "broken key currency.
Then even if it's not 1:1, and even if it feels bad for getting the 1000 tokens, you could maybe at least get a spotlight card you missed
It could be something like:
Miss pool 4
6 broken key
Miss pool 5
5 broken key
Spotlight card pool 4
3 broken key
Spotlight card pool 5
2 broken key
New card (new week/ pool 5)
0 broken key
New card pool 4
1 Broken key
I love that I opened two last week for a BK variant and some garbage S4 then dropped two this week and got a repeat S4 and Havok. Love my incredible luck and filling out my collection with valuable cards such as Ravonna or Skaad
This JUST happened to me, but with Havoc. I agree, WTF man. I do t understand how this can even work out this way! Why is the system able to differentiate between the stock card that’s part of the random series 4/5 and the Spotlight variant, and then give you the random instead of the variant. I’ve always been under the strong belief that it should prioritize the Spotlights over the Random, especially if it’s giving you a duplicate you own.
Duuuuuude I got Thanos as my random S4/S5 when he and his comic cover variant were available and I was actually kinda stoked cuz I like the variant lol but I 100% agree it’s BS otherwise. I was just super lucky
But but...it makes me happy pulling Alioth for the 3rd time already! My keys will auto draw Alioth again for sure...although I have 20+ S4 & S5 cards missing. What a system.
Man, I remember when tokens were plentiful. Want a new card? Just pin it and save tokens for maybe 2 weeks.
I used to struggle to save up 6k not because of the grind but because I have poor spending habits and would constantly buy 3k cards lol
Now, I started the season with like 1200 tokens and today I have 2000.
I just want War Machine. Burned 3 keys for him during cache week, no luck. He finally showed up in my token shop like 2 weeks ago and I pinned him, but I have no idea how long it will be until I have 6000 tokens to buy the metal bastard.
I despise the Spotlight Cache system. I think it’s a great concept, get keys and then see what you unlock out of 4 possible cards. Just needs to be more rewarding.
If I want the new card and ONLY the new card, I shouldn’t have to save up 4 keys and potentially use them all just for 1 thing.
For example, I do want Sasquatch as I think he’ll go great with a few of the eternals (Thena mostly) but I have Ravonna and Havok already and don’t care for those variants. So I’m not gonna waste keys on that even though I want Sasquatch. That sucks, I should just be able to get Sasquatch if I want him.
Takes about 1 week to save 3 Keys if completing all challenges and not refreshing with gold, so in 1 month I can save about 10 keys (rounded up). Now, if I we assume I have to spend 4 keys to get the card I want, that means I can only get 2 cards per month from caches, which means I will miss out on half of every months releases and I need to pick and choose which ones I want to invest in. Just sucks man. I’d take even a small fix. Even if I got like 3k tokens instead of 1k that would be alright because two of those and I’ve got a new card anyway!
TL;DR: Spotlight system sucks, hate having to grind so hard just for 1 card, can we PLEASE get more tokens?
I got Sasquatch first pull and tried auto builder, which puts together a Cerebro 3 deco + Sasquatch.
Couldn't make sense of it. Played it for a few matches and kept getting locations that added power to cards.
10/10 regret getting Sasquatch
The last 6 times I opened a fresh spotlight cache, I got the "random" one and it was always a card I already had. I even got a couple hundred gold back for the crappy "its not working as intended" fix came through. The next 2 were exactly the same. After the last one, I decided it's just too greedy of a game and am now done spending anything, even on the seasons and will just play with the cards I have.
Honestly I might get hate for this, but I feel it in my bones that the current system is still not the final form. As in, it'll get a lot worse, slowly. This is the modus operandi of mtx company
I once pulled Lady Deathstroke having already owned her, whilst she was in the spotlight so only got 1k tokens… I know there is a rule for it but that doesn’t make any sense to me
Duplicates are so stupid, NO ONE benefits from them.
If you're a F2P/light spender, 1000 tokens will never amount to the same value as getting a card you don't own (considering that they're all Series 4/5, aka 3000/6000 tokens); if you're a whale, 1000 tokens will likely mean nothing to you, I reckon an ultimate variant or something of that sort that isn't already owned is way better.
Maybe they don't want to have full dupe protection but they should definitely have it so that the random card can't be one of the other cards in the spotlight caches.
Funny how people were generally ok with the tokens, until they changed how it revealed. At first it just showed you tokens, then they showed you exactly what card you randomly drew and showed an animation of it being converted to tokens. People didn't get their knickers in a twist when they didn't know exactly what was going on behind the scenes.
Like yeah, 1000 tokens isn't a great reward, complain about that if you want, whining about which card you randomly were given won't change anything
I was going to write how it's been pretty sweet recently... I've pulled the new card 4 times in a row with 1 key...
Then I remember EVERY other time, I've pulled Lady Deathstrike 5 times as a standard draw.
I was lucky to get her on the first key... Sasquatch looks fine, but not for every game.
I wish I could get him too, but I d be up with bad luck, using 3 keys to get him... That's usually the case
After having this happen to me, I just quit. The game is fun but when the devs start putting in all these avenues for higher monetization (ex. Borders and albums) - you'd at least hope they make the experience better for F2p players especially when it comes to card acquisition.
Nope, 1k tokens for dupes. I just think they care when they can profit off whales.
I have once pulled a card I needed. It was during Red Hulk week I believe and the first card I pulled was Nico, who I had pinned in the store and needed. I legit sat there stunned for a few seconds because I was so shocked that for once the system didn't fuck me.
Edit - And the next card I pulled was Red Hulk, so didn't have to blow all 4 keys like usual.
Used up all my luck that week.
Happened to me some time ago with Gladiator. I pulled him as the fixed drop and right after that as the random card, which turned into 1k tokens. I couldn't believe it.
Knull for the third time in a row from the 4th "card" fucking stupid greedy system. I was missing all the 3 cards but paying a tax 1 key for 1000 token every time is disgusting
Happened to me several weeks ago when Echo was in the spotlight cache. It is such bullshit and this is considering there are more than several series 5 cards I still don’t have.
If everyone stopped spending money things would change...but ppl and their addictions whether its drugs, women, or snap....addiction is tough thing to break for change... They exploit us b/c a majority of the community has no self control.
The other mind-numbingly frustrating part about this whole system too is; if you pull the Random S4/5 card; and it happens to be a Series 5 card you already own... we should get 2,000 Tokens and not 1,000. \*It'd mean you'd get exactly 1/3rd of the price of the card back, in both circumstances\*
My issue that the Random series 4/5 has NEVER given me a card I didn’t own. One key is not worth 1k tokens.
Part of that is because the odds on that box are set so you're twice as likely to pull a series 4 card than a series 5 card. If you're series 4 complete that means on average you'll only get a chance to pull a new card once every three tries.
Laughable when we have twice as many series 5 compared to series 4
They keep pretending that there are more series 4 cards than there are. Like how nearly every upcoming spotlight has one series 5 and one series 4 (or series 5 that is dropping soon), which is unsustainable without constantly recycling the same cards in spotlights unless they actually keep series 4 and 5 relatively similar in size.
Notice how the most impactful series 5 cards are the least likely to show up in spotlight caches Look at the big cards that haven’t been in a spotlight in a while- iron lad, Loki, annihilus, ALIOTH (hasn’t been in a spotlight since 2023 lmao) They hold back the cards that people are most likely to want
Is there actual data to back this up? I don't remember every random spotlight I've gotten, but I know I've gotten at least 5 S5 card from them, a few of which later dropped in January. That said, I don't really keep track of duplicates I get, but I know I've gotten X-23 a few times.
It’s closer to 3x
24 vs 49. how is that closer to 3x?
Rounding error
He's using SD's "3x Value" bundle equation.
I finally pulled a new S5 last week....Hercules
Same lol I never got anything new in this random spotlight, and when I did, it was Hercules...
I thought I was unlucky, but you guys changed my mind. Already got Jeff, Snowguard and Blob from the random spotlight
Same :(
I already opened 13 random series and got 1 variant (old spotlight system) and 12k tokens. Never got a new card. It is what it is 😂
Exactly the same for me. The one variant was just a 700g one to add to the insult.
That is absolutely insane that you have never pulled a new card. Snap must got some real beef with you.
I think it's insane that I've pulled any (three, actually, and I'm almost at CL 14,000).
How do we know it’s not rigged? Has their RNG been certified by a third party? Casinos usually have to have their slots and other rng machines checked and certified by an outside entity
everytime i got a new card it was a card that was already in the spotlight cache that week lol
Bro, that's even more unlucky lol
it's even more unlucky than that cuz it was garbage like man thing and hercules lol
My third month playing I got a duplicate in this spot. I did not have many series 4 or 5 cards but somehow I managed to score 1000 credits.
Happened to me too. I had 5 series five cards at that point, and it gave me the High Evo I already owned.
B-b-but it's a catch-up mechanic!
In the entirety of the spotlight system the “random” one has given me a single card. That was today lol
Bro I'm CL 3.2k and I've alrody gotten 3 dupes from this shitty season. I barely have a collection yet!
I got Jeff once and have lost the right to complain
3 weeks in a row I got Silver Samurai. So fucking annoying, when I have so many unowned S4/5.
Gross. I wanted Sasquatch and I was cool with Ravonna... I got: Dupe High Evo for the 3rd time Ravonna Havok Sasquatch Absolute pain.
The only time I've pulled a card I didn't already own was Kang, and that somehow felt worse.
What is crazy is I've never got a duplicate. I've only gotten 3 of the rando cards but they have been Gladiator, Annilus, and USAgent.
Been playing since June 2022. Ever since the spotlight caches began, it gave me a new card _once_.
Lucky.
It's happened once for me in 11 months (Silver Samurai).
I got corvus glaive and iron lad from the random, somehow
I just got black knight this week which I don't own so I feel great
It gave me proxima midnight earlier and I didn't have her, so it does happen.
This season I pulled Living Tribunal, then pulled the same base variant again the following week
I got US Agent in the random 4/5 pull last week. Now I know all my luck has run out for the year
The ONE time it gave me a new card was when I was opening for War Machine. Gave me Hercules 💀 I was so mad trying to gaslighting myself "at least is a new card for the collection" xD
Last card I got from there was Loki that was like 4 months ago.
At least you didn’t get a series 4 card dropping to series 3 next week like how I got Spider-Man 2099
But at least you'll get a first edition badge! /s
LMAO
It's absurd that they made an announcement, prob had dozens of meetings about this and they just ignored it. Weird company for sure
I was hyped about those but they never came. Would make my first series 5 pull that was ghost a little better. Edit: It was with the old system, I got here from a collector reserve.
I bought so many bad cards for 6k tokens like mold, howard and stegron because I thought it would be cool to have first ed badges on cards most people wouldnt buy lol
Same. I got Gladiator. Like, why..? Of all s5 cards, why?
Maybe a little off topic but I LOVE gladiator, easily one of my favorite cards. Feels well balanced, the risk/reward hits just right
Yeah I'd have been more upset if I'd gotten Martyr as my random variant than the Dupe I got of Zemo. Martyr is the only series drop heading to series 3 I don't own and I miss pushing that free claim button.
I did the risky click and got a duplicate Snowguard and Sasquatch on key 2. I’m missing Martyr, Howard, Mirage and Silver Samurai so I started hoarding my collectors caches again. After this series drop though, the only pool 4 I’ll be missing is Lady Deathstrike so my Mystery Card is going to be 67% guaranteed 1,000 tokens.
Same, this is BS. I got Silver Samurai today. What a day
Same for me, but with Howard the Duck. Lose a key to get a card I would have gotten within a week anyway.
The bigger problem is the 1k tokens. You need to get SIX duplicates to buy a series five card. That means you lose SIX keys in order to get ONE series five card. I have no idea how they think that is balanced. Either up the tokens or put in duplicate protection.
>I have no idea how they think that is balanced. That's the best part—they don't. They've never tried to create a balanced system in any regard. It's a system designed to be unbalanced in a way that feels terrible for the player and drives FOMO.
That’s incredibly wrong and shouldn’t happen at all. Dupe protection should be 100% implemented in situations like this
Agreed and makes sense, but SD simps will downvote you anyway.
I posted this exact same thing weeks ago and they came in droves
> Dupe protection should be 100% implemented in situations like this You can file that under "shit SD will never do" The best we can hope for is more tokens from dups imo. Maybe 1200 or 1400 instead of 1000
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Wow that’s somehow even worse than what happened to me. Absolutely brutal luck
That's exactly what happened to me. Pulled Havok twice in a row. And I haven't played in a year, I am missing all of the cards released in a year. There should be dupe protection at least against the 3 cards in the cache. That and increasing the token conversion rate to 1.5k for S4 and 3k for S5.
Thats terrible.
Wow 😳 - filthy luck 😡
I hate this entire system.
Yea that and getting tokens instead of a new card are just straight up bad feelings this game gives out. There's not many things that make me want to drop the game outright but using your 1 and only key in a week and coming away with 1000 tokens when there were 4 potential new cards is an absolute gut punch and easily the worst feeling this game can give you.
It's the 1000 tokens that's absolutely killer. That is 1/6th of a new card, which is ridiculous.
What do you expect from a single key? Like if you had it your way?
I am only missing a handful of cards, and I actually prefer the 1k tokens over the variants. 9 out of 10 spotlight weeks for me are new card, 2 spotlight variants, and the "mystery card" aka 1k tokens. I'd much rather get 1k tokens than my 3rd Knull spotlight variant. As tokens at least give me something. I wish we could have the option to take 1k tokens instead of spotlight variants.
Yea, I'm not at that poin,t yet so that's why i specified "4 new cards " available I don't spend much on this game and don't get my weekly 1.5 keys or whatever you can earn so most spotlights have atleast 3 new cards for me at this point so it's certainly unrewarding to walk away with something I can't immediately play with
Always wait until you have 4 keys to pull just in case. That way you don't leave disappointed; and if it takes less than 4 keys then you're out ahead
I’ve pulled a duplicate base card immediately after opening a new card twice. It feels bad but that’s the system for now.
I got you beat 4 weeks in a row pulling a dup first
3 weeks i pulled 2 dupes and 1 new card, Kang…
Yup, I got Mobius twice in a row from keys and reported it as a bug before I figured out that it was in fact the system behaving as intended.
> I’ve pulled a duplicate base card immediately after opening a new card twice Why keep going after pulling the new card?
I'm just going to say it. Spotlight is trash. 1K token if you get duplicate. Too many options if you want to get new card. They need to fix this system.
what happens when you get a duplicate of a base card
You get the princely sum of 1000 tokens. Spend wisely (after you reroll 5 more dupes)
"JuSt MaKe SuRe YoU pUlL wHeN yOu HaVe 4 SpOtLiGhT kEyS tO gUaRaNtEe YoU gEt WhAt YoU wAnT" I shouldn't have to do that.
Nor should you have to spend all 4 on multiple weeks to get the ONE card you don’t have. Something about that doesn’t seem ‘random’. Shit just make it a tier system where I have to spend all 4 to get the new card of the week but keys are easier to get.
You shouldn’t. But you do. It remains the best advice.
Wow, thats fucking trash!
Even if they don't implement full dupe protection, they should at the very least make the random card *not include the other three in the spotlight*. OP might value the variant even less than 1000 tokens.
The worst part is they are about to give Ravonna the Zabu treatment and nerf her to the dumpster Just watch
Haven't seen this topic 300 other times
I got Spider-Ham 💀 Atleast I don't need to worry about his ugly ass anymore 😭
Same here, 3 keys, both variants and a dupe. The fucking nerve
And it’s the 3rd time in a row it’s happened to me
I have 33 keys saved bc I refused to pull unless I need 2 cards at minimum, and they had better be useful. I got all 3 today and USAgent as a 4th, whom I did not have.
It should be: new card-2 old cards or variants And the last slot either: -A ultimate card variant. -Let you choose one of several premium variants. -Any card that you don’t own. 1000 credits is trash.
I pulled Ravonna Spotlight, Havok Spotlight, Havok Base (1000 tokens), then Sasquatch lol
Duplicate Zemo, Ravonna variant, (at least it's a nice variant) Havock, Squatch. Guess I'm skipping the next few weeks. Sorry Eternals.
See you guys next week for the same exact post!
The only people who like the spotlight system are SD and they've made it very clear that they don't give 2 shits about how we feel about it.
This has happened to me twice lol. Once with Kitty, another time with Daken.
That happened to me last week with BK.
I got ravonnas variant + nico (which i already had so.. 1000 tokens)
This same thing happened to me, except it was Havok.
I had the the same effing experience opening today. Such a feelbad moment.
The same thing happened to me. I even pulled the spotlight ravonna first. It's so infuriating!
I got a Nebula, in spot light, already owned. It happens.
Could work the other way in your benefit though. It has personally for me
It got leaked in discord that Ravonna getting nerfed the patch after her spotlight
I'm sorry, what?
If it guarantees a series 4 or 5,why do we get 1k tokens rather than 3k which is the cost of a series 4 card in the shop? 🤔
I got silver samurai last week. You can imagine my fury since it will be series 3 next week.
That random 4/5 needs to go. It never feels good.
As much as I hate new currency, I almost feel like they should add something for this specifically, especially if they're talking about adding a spotlight shop in the future? Like the currency could be based around "used keys" or broken keys or something, and on pulls that have less value, you would get more "broken key currency. Then even if it's not 1:1, and even if it feels bad for getting the 1000 tokens, you could maybe at least get a spotlight card you missed It could be something like: Miss pool 4 6 broken key Miss pool 5 5 broken key Spotlight card pool 4 3 broken key Spotlight card pool 5 2 broken key New card (new week/ pool 5) 0 broken key New card pool 4 1 Broken key
I just experienced an even worse version of this: Havok > Ravonna (spotlight) > Ravonna (random) > Sasquatch, so I didn’t even get a variant. Brutal.
I love that I opened two last week for a BK variant and some garbage S4 then dropped two this week and got a repeat S4 and Havok. Love my incredible luck and filling out my collection with valuable cards such as Ravonna or Skaad
This JUST happened to me, but with Havoc. I agree, WTF man. I do t understand how this can even work out this way! Why is the system able to differentiate between the stock card that’s part of the random series 4/5 and the Spotlight variant, and then give you the random instead of the variant. I’ve always been under the strong belief that it should prioritize the Spotlights over the Random, especially if it’s giving you a duplicate you own.
THat's how I got conned out of getting Living Tribunal last round. As a free players its getting harder and harder to keep up nowadays I feel like.
Why does it make less sense to pull a dupe of a card featured that week? Why does it feel worse? Seems the same to me (bad).
They don’t give a shit. Which is the problem.
First time? Lol
Duuuuuude I got Thanos as my random S4/S5 when he and his comic cover variant were available and I was actually kinda stoked cuz I like the variant lol but I 100% agree it’s BS otherwise. I was just super lucky
It should not be
I’m with you that’s bullshit
Had only 1 key and pulled Sasquatch lol tbf, still don’t have Ravonna so wouldn’t have minded her either
But but...it makes me happy pulling Alioth for the 3rd time already! My keys will auto draw Alioth again for sure...although I have 20+ S4 & S5 cards missing. What a system.
Yo that’s so bullshit. Fuck this.
Man, I remember when tokens were plentiful. Want a new card? Just pin it and save tokens for maybe 2 weeks. I used to struggle to save up 6k not because of the grind but because I have poor spending habits and would constantly buy 3k cards lol Now, I started the season with like 1200 tokens and today I have 2000. I just want War Machine. Burned 3 keys for him during cache week, no luck. He finally showed up in my token shop like 2 weeks ago and I pinned him, but I have no idea how long it will be until I have 6000 tokens to buy the metal bastard. I despise the Spotlight Cache system. I think it’s a great concept, get keys and then see what you unlock out of 4 possible cards. Just needs to be more rewarding. If I want the new card and ONLY the new card, I shouldn’t have to save up 4 keys and potentially use them all just for 1 thing. For example, I do want Sasquatch as I think he’ll go great with a few of the eternals (Thena mostly) but I have Ravonna and Havok already and don’t care for those variants. So I’m not gonna waste keys on that even though I want Sasquatch. That sucks, I should just be able to get Sasquatch if I want him. Takes about 1 week to save 3 Keys if completing all challenges and not refreshing with gold, so in 1 month I can save about 10 keys (rounded up). Now, if I we assume I have to spend 4 keys to get the card I want, that means I can only get 2 cards per month from caches, which means I will miss out on half of every months releases and I need to pick and choose which ones I want to invest in. Just sucks man. I’d take even a small fix. Even if I got like 3k tokens instead of 1k that would be alright because two of those and I’ve got a new card anyway! TL;DR: Spotlight system sucks, hate having to grind so hard just for 1 card, can we PLEASE get more tokens?
That’s why I stopped opening caches if I own the two other cards. I open them rarely if I like a card a lot.
I got Sasquatch first pull and tried auto builder, which puts together a Cerebro 3 deco + Sasquatch. Couldn't make sense of it. Played it for a few matches and kept getting locations that added power to cards. 10/10 regret getting Sasquatch
The last 6 times I opened a fresh spotlight cache, I got the "random" one and it was always a card I already had. I even got a couple hundred gold back for the crappy "its not working as intended" fix came through. The next 2 were exactly the same. After the last one, I decided it's just too greedy of a game and am now done spending anything, even on the seasons and will just play with the cards I have.
I saw nothing I wanted this week, so Im saving my keys for next weke. Dont want Sasquatch or Havok, already have Ravonna.
It happened to me twice in a row
I pulled sasquatch first key but I'm kind of keen to get havok but I could just save keys
I once got living tribunal two weeks in a row, 2k token for 2 keys...
Honestly I might get hate for this, but I feel it in my bones that the current system is still not the final form. As in, it'll get a lot worse, slowly. This is the modus operandi of mtx company
I've had many duplicates and only two new cards, one being Thanos which was obviously awesome, with the other being Hercules who I've never used.
I got 3 havoks how's your day ?
I literally thought this was impossible. Fucking gross
Yeah. Had the same experience with Sage week. Got Tribunal as random drop and next one got fixed Tribunal. Super frustrating.
Same exact thing happened to me
I use 1 key a week n got the variant, i hope sasquatch n havok are trash lol
Got 3 dupes and no new cards. AGAIN. Losing the will to play.
Yea frustrating is part of the design. It’s gambling, you need a part where it’s really, really bad.
i got a dupe. ravonna (already had). ha ok. then sasquatch. feels terrible.
If it makes you feel any better I got sasquatch on my first key. I don't have ravona or havok but I'm not gonna go for them.
I once pulled Lady Deathstroke having already owned her, whilst she was in the spotlight so only got 1k tokens… I know there is a rule for it but that doesn’t make any sense to me
I got tokens on my second key, I didn't really want to use it since I got rav on my first. It hurts
Duplicates are so stupid, NO ONE benefits from them. If you're a F2P/light spender, 1000 tokens will never amount to the same value as getting a card you don't own (considering that they're all Series 4/5, aka 3000/6000 tokens); if you're a whale, 1000 tokens will likely mean nothing to you, I reckon an ultimate variant or something of that sort that isn't already owned is way better.
Maybe they don't want to have full dupe protection but they should definitely have it so that the random card can't be one of the other cards in the spotlight caches.
It is a catch-up mechanic for new/returning players and is designed to slow down your progress the more cards you own...
Funny how people were generally ok with the tokens, until they changed how it revealed. At first it just showed you tokens, then they showed you exactly what card you randomly drew and showed an animation of it being converted to tokens. People didn't get their knickers in a twist when they didn't know exactly what was going on behind the scenes. Like yeah, 1000 tokens isn't a great reward, complain about that if you want, whining about which card you randomly were given won't change anything
I was going to write how it's been pretty sweet recently... I've pulled the new card 4 times in a row with 1 key... Then I remember EVERY other time, I've pulled Lady Deathstrike 5 times as a standard draw.
I was lucky to get her on the first key... Sasquatch looks fine, but not for every game. I wish I could get him too, but I d be up with bad luck, using 3 keys to get him... That's usually the case
Last week, I had none of the cards. Used my spotlight key and got the tokens. It's fucking stupid.
After having this happen to me, I just quit. The game is fun but when the devs start putting in all these avenues for higher monetization (ex. Borders and albums) - you'd at least hope they make the experience better for F2p players especially when it comes to card acquisition. Nope, 1k tokens for dupes. I just think they care when they can profit off whales.
Lol
Yeah took 4 keys to get sasquatch and getting the caiera duplicate felt like a slap in the face.
Mine has Havoc which got allready not clicking
I have once pulled a card I needed. It was during Red Hulk week I believe and the first card I pulled was Nico, who I had pinned in the store and needed. I legit sat there stunned for a few seconds because I was so shocked that for once the system didn't fuck me. Edit - And the next card I pulled was Red Hulk, so didn't have to blow all 4 keys like usual. Used up all my luck that week.
Glad to see I wasn’t the onlyperson who had the exact same pulls from 2 keys.
Yeah, is a straigh Steal
Yes this week was not worth the keys.
I got at first try: Nocturne, Namora, Sasquatch :) Sage never tried
She’s the only one I wanted. She’s the only one I haven’t gotten …
Tbh, I get Ravona for the random spotlight card compared to other random cards
I’ve got Daken a good 5 times when opening spotlight caches, it’s so annoying lol.
Happened to me some time ago with Gladiator. I pulled him as the fixed drop and right after that as the random card, which turned into 1k tokens. I couldn't believe it.
Knull for the third time in a row from the 4th "card" fucking stupid greedy system. I was missing all the 3 cards but paying a tax 1 key for 1000 token every time is disgusting
This may be one of the few cases where the base card is not top notch.
I got Sasquatch first case
They at least give 3k tokens if you already own the card
Happened to me several weeks ago when Echo was in the spotlight cache. It is such bullshit and this is considering there are more than several series 5 cards I still don’t have.
The base cards have always been a possibility for me, I thought that was why it shows them on the other side of the chest
Better question: Why do you feel like you need every single card in the game?
Spoight cache is a huge bad tasting joke
This is def pandemonium 🤣
I got ANOTHER Kang. I think this was my 4th time pulling him
Sucker for using ANY keys at all with a Series Drop a week out....you deserved to pull Howard the Duck
Agreed
Me and my son both played it took 4 keys... and we both pulled card we own - havok -new ravonna - sasquatch
1st key Sasquatch here
Just Snap being Snap lol But here we all are, still pulling on the arm of the slot machine!
I'd be soooo pissed lmao. That 4th slot is just fucking scummy and should be removed or changed to 3k token
If everyone stopped spending money things would change...but ppl and their addictions whether its drugs, women, or snap....addiction is tough thing to break for change... They exploit us b/c a majority of the community has no self control.
Hit Monkey..
It's feels bad only
Happened to me like 2 spotlights ago. So frustrating
The other mind-numbingly frustrating part about this whole system too is; if you pull the Random S4/5 card; and it happens to be a Series 5 card you already own... we should get 2,000 Tokens and not 1,000. \*It'd mean you'd get exactly 1/3rd of the price of the card back, in both circumstances\*
They did it to me last spotlight
Last spotlight I got two Skaars lol. I already had Skaar so I've gotten Skaar three times now.
Its happen to me with Knull base card. I already have the card loooong time ago, yet it still come up on my spotlight.
Absolutely ridiculous, so unfair.
It be nice to buy physical cards and ar scan them in to the game
This bums me out too. At least give tokens worth the amount you'd have to use to get the card if you already have it.
That is insane dude I’m sorry
1 key. 1 pull. It’s sassy boy.
Awful!!!