Why have I not tried clog before.. Didn't have Cull or Grandmaster. However, added Oden and Black Panther. Both have come in clutch, giving me different win conditions but also providing less predictability to opponents. Also, took out DD for Beast. On lane control, its a free win for the opponent, but an easy retreat.
Thanks for the share!
Hmm you could try green goblin, but that's going to be strictly worse. Any low cost on reveal should work a bit
Edit: scorpion might be the best replacement after some thought.
Black widow kinda removes a card from the hand, because instead of drawing a normal card, they have a 0 cost replacing it that they will always play next turn, whereas the draw could be a 6 cost or whatever
For surprise Ronan or hiding mystique and maximus? Sure. I don't know what you ditch for it, but there are flex spots for sure. Black widow for example
Here's the version I've ended the day with:
# (1) Spider-Ham
# (1) Iceman
# (2) Grand Master
# (2) Master Mold
# (2) White Widow
# (2) Maximus
# (3) Mystique
# (4) Iron Lad
# (4) Crossbones
# (4) Cull Obsidian
# (5) Ronan the Accuser
# (6) Skaar
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UPDATE: I have played about 60 games with this and my win rate is at a much more reasonable but still very high 63.8%. I had a bit of a losing streak while I played on mobile earlier, but when I got home I switched Dr. Doom for Skaar so I could knock out the weekend mission. I think I'll keep that change.
Playing Cull on four, Ronan on 5, and some combination of Mystique, Skaar, and Maximus on six has been great. I might flex Crossbones instead of Black Widow to make that line more consistent.
Ronan is not the main way this deck wins actually. That's why the win rate is high but the cubes are low. The disruptive aspect forces retreat more often than not. But you can feel free to sub if you'd like.
Edit: I should mention that master mold into black widow into grandmaster and something else negates that downside completely
Master Mold is such a piece of shit. I hate getting it played to me but love dealing it out.
It won me the game earlier! I rogued their quinjet and played them along with a Ironman to throw a curve.
I just pulled Master Mold into Grandmaster. I don't think my opponent was happy.
Nice! Any thoughts for replacement of Cull?
Yeah crossbones is basically the same card, but a slightly worse restriction.
Crossbones feels like it would a great fit, could easily be played on the White Widow lane
Why have I not tried clog before.. Didn't have Cull or Grandmaster. However, added Oden and Black Panther. Both have come in clutch, giving me different win conditions but also providing less predictability to opponents. Also, took out DD for Beast. On lane control, its a free win for the opponent, but an easy retreat. Thanks for the share!
Beast does the grandmaster role in a way, so solid replacement! IDK odin has decent enough synergy I guess. Interesting subs for sure.
3.5k CL problems lol
Fair enough. I doubt that the version I shared is the most optimal list anyway.
Any replacement for white widow? Only card I'm missing from this list
Hmm you could try green goblin, but that's going to be strictly worse. Any low cost on reveal should work a bit Edit: scorpion might be the best replacement after some thought.
I feel like the buffed WWBN might cook in this deck idk who you replace though
You can swap Black Widow. Let me know if you have luck with that!
I'm gonna play a few now but I also swapped mystique for beast to add some bounce to the deck
That could work too, but you can't double the Ronan effect. WWbN should help mitigate those lost points though
Black widow kinda removes a card from the hand, because instead of drawing a normal card, they have a 0 cost replacing it that they will always play next turn, whereas the draw could be a 6 cost or whatever
Sure but playing it on turn three after master mold with grandmaster in hand means a guaranteed two more sentinels for them
Have you tested the new baron mordo with this?
No and I don't plan to. It might be good here, but feels like it wouldn't be impactful enough
what about Supergiant?
For surprise Ronan or hiding mystique and maximus? Sure. I don't know what you ditch for it, but there are flex spots for sure. Black widow for example
deck code....
Here's the version I've ended the day with: # (1) Spider-Ham # (1) Iceman # (2) Grand Master # (2) Master Mold # (2) White Widow # (2) Maximus # (3) Mystique # (4) Iron Lad # (4) Crossbones # (4) Cull Obsidian # (5) Ronan the Accuser # (6) Skaar # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiR3JhbmRNYXN0ZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkljZW1hbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSXJvbkxhZCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTWFzdGVyTW9sZCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTWF4aW11cyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiUm9uYW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNwaWRlckhhbSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiV2hpdGVXaWRvdyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTXlzdGlxdWUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkN1bGxPYnNpZGlhbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2thYXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkNyb3NzYm9uZXMifV19 # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
UPDATE: I have played about 60 games with this and my win rate is at a much more reasonable but still very high 63.8%. I had a bit of a losing streak while I played on mobile earlier, but when I got home I switched Dr. Doom for Skaar so I could knock out the weekend mission. I think I'll keep that change. Playing Cull on four, Ronan on 5, and some combination of Mystique, Skaar, and Maximus on six has been great. I might flex Crossbones instead of Black Widow to make that line more consistent.
Black Widow isn’t very good here. It just replaces a card your opponent would have drawn with a card that costs 0 to play, making your Ronan smaller
Ronan is not the main way this deck wins actually. That's why the win rate is high but the cubes are low. The disruptive aspect forces retreat more often than not. But you can feel free to sub if you'd like. Edit: I should mention that master mold into black widow into grandmaster and something else negates that downside completely
Debrii may be a good substitute, especially to counter the Namora decks for the weekend mission
Excellent choice