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MightGuy420x

I enjoy their first few albums but I don't really listen to them as much as I used to. Waking the fallen is one of my favorite albums ever though. That shit goes hard.


ShaquilleOatmeal54

I like all of their work but no album by them will ever beat Waking the Fallen. That being said exist is one of my favorite closers to an album


ContentlyQuestionabl

Not my style. They’re a good gateway band. Decent guitar work, but I don’t like the vocals. This is also probably the 946th time this question has been asked about this same band.


JonnyTN

Ok then. Enough of that tired question then. Let's ask something fresh here. What do you think of Five Finger Death Punch? /s


InsufferableKant

Why does metalcore get so much hate?


JonnyTN

Is Panera overrated?


Karman_is_a_bitch

What do you think about the Mommy part from Down With the Sickness?


Ornery_Medicine4518

*paneer


P3rcy_J4cks0n

I feel bad for Matt. Hereally blew his voice during the metalcore work they did. Hes really been working on strengthening it but it sounds horse to me still, especially live.


the-redacted-word

I saw him live a couple months ago and the vocals were amazing


black-winter-

I saw them live last September (my gf at the time was a massive A7X fan) and I thought he sounded great


alex_is_the_name

I’m not even suprised I was shocked at how insane his vocal ability is but I can imagine it took it’s toll


polkemans

The point is that his vocal ability is *not* good. Poor technique leads to vocal injury. People who don't know think he sounds cool. People who do think he's mediocre at best. Because he's been working on coming back from vocal injury he's only recently started singing with solid ability.


Brucecx

His recent vocal cord injury was not due to singing. He took vocal lessons before their 3rd album and his vocal ability is great


polkemans

You don't know what you're talking about. https://blabbermouth.net/news/avenged-sevenfold-m-shadows-looks-back-on-his-throat-surgery Try again. TL;DR: He had surgery on his vocal folds back in 2002 after being a young kid with no training who's band struck it big and blew out his voice.


Brucecx

Is 2002 recent? Bonehead


polkemans

Obviously not. The point is his voice has been irreparably damaged for a long time. I.E. He's been a dogshit singer most of his career. If you think his vocal technique is great I can only assume you don't know what you're talking about and likely aren't a vocalist yourself. It's *better* now because he knows it's the only way he can keep what he has left alive. But that's not saying much these days. To be fair what he has managed to keep does show in LIBAD. His best performance to date despite how tired his chords are. If he had more vocal surgery recently that only proves my point. Your vocal chords don't just get infected out of nowhere.


ContentlyQuestionabl

I’ve just never been a fan of his singing. His singing is too nasal for me to enjoy.


Karman_is_a_bitch

10/10 band. If I was given the chance, I would make an unbearable post that nobody will care about


hayatetst

Do it!


Karman_is_a_bitch

Sounding the seventh trumpet is an album that I think is overlooked. Sure shadows don't sound intelligible, but most artists with their first album aren't good anyway. But there are good songs in there. And I think it's cool that The Rev drummed the whole album in one take. Waking the Fallen was a lot of our first album that we tried. And for a good reason too! Synyster Gates hopped in as the lead guitarist, Shadows sounds intelligible, the drumming is more clean, overall, the change was all for the better. The vocals have a mix of singing and screaming. It was my favorite record of theirs for a whole year. City of Evil was the album where they got rid of screaming for the most part. Creatively, it was their peak, even if people didn't like it at first. The Rev had his time to finally shine on the kit and I couldn't have been happier. It made me wish I could've heard what he did in the previous two albums. The solos had even more soul to the sound. Vocals were on point. And I will admit that if it wasn't for the Rev, I wouldn't have really liked the album. Ah the self titled album. When the Rev made it to the microphone. And the sound changed as well. This was the album when people loved to hate them. Yet nobody questioned ALOPH and still didn't. It's an album that I used to put on repeat along with WtF and Nightmare. This was my opinion that they were at an all time high creatively. Diamonds in the Rough. Man nobody ever talks about this album. And only because it's scrapped material. But this album was polished to be released for a reason. They knew the songs were good but not good enough to be in an album, and I still disagree with their decision on Demons and Crossroads. Those should've been in their correct album. Nightmare was their masterpiece in 2010. The album has the darkest lyrics of them all, the heaviest burden of a fallen soldier, and just trying to move on. With Mike Portnoy filling in for Jimmy, it just works so well. And the tracks in the album are always pulling on my heart strings. Victim, Save Me, Fiction, Danger Line, it's no wonder why it's my personal favorite album of theirs. I'll put Black Reign here. With Arin Ilejay filling in after Mike, he did them justice on the Call of Duty songs. But I never played that game so I don't have much to say other than the songs are A tier. (Yes I know Brooks did Mad Hatter. I'll praise him later.) Hail to the King. The classic dad rock album without being dad rock... as of now anyway. Using inspiration from old idols to create songs. Sometimes blatantly ripping off songs like This Means War/Metallica's Sad but True. But I honestly feel like the deep cuts of the album and Acid Rain are the real saviors of the album. Gimme some Coming Home and we are talking. The Stage. Maaaan where do I begin on this masterpiece? The Stage, Paradigm, all of the tracks in a row and including the deluxe. It's all perfect for me. But just like everyone, I didn't care much for it in the beginning. Now, I've placed it at #2 in my brooks. The vocals are on point. Syn/Zacky guitars are a chefs kiss. Jonny Christ our Lord and Savior killed the bass as usual. And Brooks? Showing up and bringing the band to its former glory. He was the perfect person to pick up where they left off. And he's tasteful with it too. This is an album where I would tell my younger self that I'm gonna listen to it no matter how many times it took until I got why it was so good. Stupid naïve Carmen... Aaaaand Life is But a Dream. It's gonna take time for me to like it but I only like Mattel-Cosmic + G and Life is But a Dream. Those are the tracks I'll praise forever. But Game Over, Easier, (O)rdinary and (D)eath are still weird to me. I used to think Retrovertigo was weird but I grew a liking to it. I doubt I'm gonna be weird on those 4 forever. Did this get annoying to read?


[deleted]

Agreed. Nightmare is their masterpiece


Karman_is_a_bitch

Thank you for reminding me


Karman_is_a_bitch

Oh my God I forgot about HTTK Deathbat. It's really underrated but I've never played the game. The music is something that is certainly unique, but they made it work. It's my secret 9th album that is placed in 8th place


DancingQueen19

Agreed. They’re the best at what they do. Lots of certified bangers for the gym


Ciprich

They're fantastic. LIBAD was one of my top albums last year


CompetitiveComputer4

That album really is something special. Kind of have to get past expectations to see how they really passed themselves to do something different.


moneyBaggin

Ppl hate em and they got some cringe, but they also have some fuckin BANGERS


LokiOfTheStorm

Awesome. Great. Very good.


MrToad21

I love em, most here hate em


TomServo31k

I really think they peaked with City of Evil.


JonnyTN

Yeah after the vocal change, the band kind of dropped off for me. Still enjoy their older stuff.


masterofdread

Fruity as hell.


rattlehead42069

Avenged sevenfold is music for guys who slap their own ass during sex


mentally_fuckin_eel

Simultaneously overrated AND overhated.


Santosfran2001

My childhood band, how I got into metal. Barely listen to them these days but gonna see them for the first time on sunday and Im stoked


[deleted]

Like a handful of songs but that’s it. Not the worst just not my style


Cool_Owl7159

my favorite band 🖤 I love how every album of theirs is a different genre of metal, and the bands that influenced them (Metallica, Iron Maiden, Pantera, Black Sabbath, and recently Daft Punk) are some of my other all-time favorites.


redflagsmoothie

They are pretty good. They get a lot of unnecessary hate. They’ve evolved into a weird prog band and I’m really here for it.


_austinm

Damn, I really need to listen to their last couple of albums then. After Hail to the King I kinda lost interest in their new releases.


redflagsmoothie

Oh believe me, same. That album was beyond disappointing.


Just_Another_Gamer67

Good gateway band and the more prog oriented hard rock that they are doing rn is really cool


ExhaustedFlyersFan

City of Evil was the first “heavy” CD I bought. 10 y/o me and 28 y/o me dearly love most of their records and respect them for constantly pushing boundaries instead of rewriting the same record over and over again. LIBAD kicked serious tail and they put on a killer show each time I’ve seen them.


thebassist9510

Never liked them, but it's hard to argue their talent level


Paja03_

self titled is amazing


rashestkhan

They got me into metal.


VogonPoetry19

I kinda dislike their vocals but willing to put that aside for LIBaD and CoE which I really enjoy 


lglas421

Admittedly I haven't heard anywhere near their entire discography but I always thought of them as kinda corny. But life would be boring if everyone liked the same things.


Pure-Jellyfish734

I’d say they’re a nice blend of classic metal sounds (think Iron Maiden or Metallica) and more modern metal sounds from genres like Metalcore. Also, just for a little opinion of mine, I’ve always considered their album City Of Evil as the album that essentially “saved” metal in the 21st century.


Cultural-Fondant-955

Never heard of em.


Plus_Story4436

Bad


Severe-Put9154

i love them and unholy confessions was one of my introductions to metal


indamoufofmadness

I respect the musicianship of the rest of the members, but I cannot stand the vocals.


Brockovich614

They've been one of my favorites for nearly 20 years now.


ChetdyKrueger

Got into them too late but they definitely got a sound and some talented AF musicians


Accomplished_Gur2501

i think they’re great, didn’t really care for them at first but now they’re one of my faves


TheDarkEternalKnight

Really dislike them


Odd_Radio9225

Was never the biggest fan, but I never hated them. Though it's been a long time since I listened to them.


the-redacted-word

They’re fine. Cosmic is an amazing song


Fair-Bus-4017

Great band although I don't ever listen to them anymore.


TheHighTierHuman

All of their albums are straight bangers


howsitgoingmann

I guess they're fi ye yi ye yine


OvenForward20

2nd favorite metal band of all time


OrangeStock3517

I love them! They're definitely a favorite and I listen to a ton of their stuff all the time. I've got a tattoo appointment for an A7X tattoo this week 🎉🎉


TheBatCreditCardUser

I think they’re alright, but my kid FUCKING loves them.  He makes me blast Hail to the King when I drive him to school.  Honestly, I can’t complain, it’s a banger song.


buttabean2275

They are one of the bands that got me into metalcore and metal in general. So I have fond memories of them and still listen to their new music when they put it out


Mettabox452

They get too much hate. They are very talented musicians, and have some excellent songs, especially off of their self titled album, and Nightmare. Sure M. Shadows's voice is very whiny, and their last album was a bit too directionless. But theyre a solid band.


twosuitsluke

Their career has some real highs and lows, but in 2024, I love them. LIBAD was my album of the year last year and just blew me away. I never expected an album like that from them. It's just fantastic.


ProblemGamer18

Love them. They were my gateway band for metal. Just saw them for the first time last October with Falling in Reverse, and it honestly was pretty bad. Not a fan of FIR, and A7X played a lot of their LIBAD songs (which was expected of course). The AI crap was wacky, too. I will say, I still respect them immensely, and I will die on a hill for them. Don't care if their not traditional metal, it's good music.


Don_Tommasino_5687

One of my favourite bands! My album rankings of theirs… 1. White Album 2. City Of Evil 3. The Stage 4. Nightmare 5. Life Is But A Dream… 6. Hail To The King 7. Waking The Fallen 8. STST …bare in mind, on any given day the top 4 could all switch around! Love them!


jackpumpkim

regardless of what you think about them, it's cool to see a band trying to do something out of their comfort zone, i really enjoyed the stage and libad


shieldvortex17

Horrible band


TheVeilsCurse

I got into their Waking The Fallen album during the metalcore craze and liked the big songs off of City of Evil and the song Almost Easy but that’s as far as I got. Nothing else interested me.


FaluninumAlcon

Sometimes I can listen so some of their songs


Practical_Table1407

Good for what they are but it isn't my style. I appreciate them but they are closer to the hard rock side than the real metal side. Now judge me gate keepers.


reamkore

Not a fan. Always thought they were corny as hell.


P3rcy_J4cks0n

When I was a young metalhead I loved their stuff. I think its a good introduction into the genre. However, I find that most people outgrow their music. They were definitely more of a force when the Rev was still around.


nothing_in_my_mind

Very, very mid band. They have so many influences, but execute them so uninterestingly. They have moments of brilliance but it's almost always lost in between many minutes of mediocre uncreative music.


SpiritualDish8329

I could never tell the difference between this band and three day grace Kinda thought both were pretty fruity for years. Still kinda do. I mean I was really trying to give it a go because a lot of my friends liked it. But Much like that other group that sang about waking up and putting on makeup La La La La. It just didn’t take, and just ended up annoying me. Can’t deny that they’re talented.


voivod1989

Pretty terrible


Far_Lifeguard5220

Awaken the fallen and city of evil are great. Everything else kind of misses the mark for me.


ibnQoheleth

I'm not really fussed with them on album but I saw them live back in 2017 and thought they were fantastic. I won't sit down to listen to them, but I definitely *got* them when I got the live experience.


grumpy_enraged_bear

Never liked them. None of the albums, none of the songs, from first to last. Never understood why people like them either.


IronManDork

is this the one with Kang?


MapachoCura

I really like Waking the Fallen and City of Evil. I dont know their newer stuff well but when I checked it out nothing spoke to me as much so I think I might just prefer their older stuff.


TheAwkwardGamerRNx

Liked them and saw them in concert back in high school. Haven’t really listened to them in a while, now that I think about it.


Indiana_J_Frog

City of Evil is made up of both good and great songs, but might be a little overly ambitious. Their debut really sucked, though.


House_Whargoul

Saw them on an Ozzfest and they just aren't my cup of tea. I can recognize the talent of the musicians, but the vocals and delivery aren't what I'm looking for.


ComfortableNo2879

I love em


alex_is_the_name

Massive part of my teenage years. Not a fan of their newer stuff. Saw them at download for the first time this year and performed really well but their setlist was all over the place and was disappointed with their finishing song. They didn’t play enough of their old stuff


9HumpWump

Eh. Just not for me but I can recognize why people are fans and how well of a gateway band they are including for myself. Thing is shortly after discovering them I found metal that was more suited to my tastes and thus I became a metalhead.


BibFortunaCookie

Buttrock.


NoBoysenberry257

I like them


No_Mix_1943

Kid metal


Vengeance9149

Waking the Fallen is their Ascendancy, Nightmare is their Shogun


thebox34

boring ass hard rock w/breakdowns


polkemans

I know I'm in the minority but I think everything before LIBAD is garbage made by edge lords who think they're way more clever than they are. LIBAD has some issues but it's a step in a much better direction away from their radio rock standards.


MushroomScarab

The Rev was an amazing drummer, didn't really like them outside of that and haven't heard many songs since he passed


Barqck

They got me into metal, but the only albums I still enjoy are Nightmare and the Stage


misterguy1020

The guitarists are very talented, like some of their songs but haven't commited to listening a full album.


Roboticpoultry

I loved them in high school. I still occasionally listen to songs from Waking the Fallen through Nightmare but I didn’t really care for much after that. That one long prog song (Exist?) they did was pretty cool too. I’d probably still see them live for nostalgia’s sake


DjakeToBreak000

Enjoyed a couple songs when I was first getting into metal, but I kinda find them a lil corny. Overall good musicians tho


ramblingpariah

I remember liking them for about three or four months when they hit big, then suddenly, it was like a switch went off in my brain, and I just couldn't listen to them (especially the lyrics) anymore.


[deleted]

Rev was a hell of a drummer on CoE. I think their ballads shine through, stylistically they have a lot of talent to make a sort of 80s-reminiscent ballads. Seize The Day & So Far Away are two of my favorite songs of all time.


HearJustSoICanPost

Not a fan, primarily because of vocals.


RevolutionaryJoke21

Over rated, don’t get the hype


Deathmetalfan901

All round and amazing band not a single bad album


ItsTimeDrFreeman

Their self titled album is really the only thing worth listening to imo


Carolus-Rex-

I love them and how they aren't afraid to evolve, musically and personally. Life is But a Dream is definitely my favorite album by them right now


histo320

They are the Guns N Roses of the 2000s. Good, solid musicians, some classic songs, legendary band, an overall really good band. For me, songs are hit or miss. The good ones are really good but the bad ones are really bad.


_austinm

I love all their albums up to Nightmare. They’re all skilled musicians, but without The Rev helping with songwriting it just doesn’t do it for me.


Desperate_Hippo_60

Not bad, good for beginner metalheads, hail to the king is fire


Ant_1_ITA

I love them, they are my 2nd favourite band


FARMEANDOSERETONINAX

irregular band


CodeN3gaTiV3

Boring, but not the worst entry level band


GodspeedHarmonica

Saw them live a couple of days ago and it was really sad. Used to be a cool band now it’s just cringe


PrimaryComrade94

I thought Hail to the King was a great album, and self titled and Waking the Fallen were okay, but the rest are pretty forgettable, and I don't really have interest in them anyway.


El_Archidan

City of Evil is a GOATED album... the rest is meh


AvatarIII

Fine, a few great songs but generally kind of mid. Kind of like the black album era Metallica of the 21st century.


DM725

M. Shadows is nails on a chalkboard for me.


judas_prius

Cringe poser music for lifetime fast food employees, military jackoffs and cops


[deleted]

They said Avenged Sevenfold not Five Finger Death Punch chill man


MelodicMasterpiece67

Pass


vercingetorix78

Like System of A Down, I fooled myself into liking them for a while because the music was solid, until I came to the realization that I hate the singer's voice with a fiery passion and now it's literally nails on a chalkboard.


grahsam

They are blue stripe, Kirkland brand metal. They are the Nickleback of metal. Even their band members have cringe metal stage names.


SovereignAnt

Nightmare is decent but overrated, and everything after that is hot garbage


Loud_silence_93

The last album is something i can’t describe using positive words


xfydr782

bad


ManyaraImpala

Shite.


theHAREST

I personally think that they're extremely boring radio pop metal but to each their own.


pppppokczam

gay


SirMeatdrill

Gay as a compliment?


pppppokczam

nay


SirMeatdrill

Can't think of a more intresting insult?


pppppokczam

I couldn't care less about insulting anybody over their musical taste and I also don't mind musicians being gay. A7x just sounds gay and OP asked what we think about them. Those 3 letters explain very clearly that I don't like their music and why. It's a super efficient comment.


SirMeatdrill

What it is is exceptionally vague and unconstructive, I have still genuinely no idea why you dislike them, and at this point you've said more than just gay, so it was less efficient more of a nothing comment.


TheDarkEternalKnight

Gay as an insult in 2024? Really, man?


pppppokczam

yay


Professional_Pay1960

Posers


Leafshade3030

avenged poserfold


Worth_Wrongdoer_7353

only poser here is you, there are different types of metal not just heavy screaming 😱


Professional_Pay1960

https://preview.redd.it/o9e3gr6rmj8d1.png?width=2584&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bbf7a63243ba565bbc3b34c92f2aa7dcc83c3cde I don't see screaming on here


Worth_Wrongdoer_7353

really got me with that one, nice one 👍🏽


Professional_Pay1960

Thankyou


Metal_Boi_7507

The flair 😭😭😭


vole_enjoyer

i’m a huge a7x fan but they’re hardly metal. accept that and listen to some actual metal instead of labeling it as “heavy screaming”