AJJ is a smart player and, as cliche as this phrase is, has a good feel for the game. I don't know why this team decided they wanted to run a bunch of 30yr olds ragged during the regular season while our young guys just ride the bench all season
Honestly, great performance given what we were up against. Just not enough offense and the Pacers went nuts from three (we could've defended way better).
The best thing about all of this is knowing that the Pacers are going to absolutely get crushed by the Knicks and I will love every second of it.
They kept it close enough for quite a while that if they had gotten some variance in their favor they might have been able to steal it. About all you can ask for.
Our defense was still ass, they were open at the 3pt line all game long. It's not luck, they are a skilled shooting team, we failed to contain them and hit our own. But is that a surprise with our DPOY and clutch 3pt shooter both injured and out?
I played baseball with and against brunson back in the day
really great kid
always figured he'd probably make the NBA, but him being this good is insane lol
Teams are consistently open from three against us. After a while the defensive philosophy needs to change besides “let’s leave em open and hope they miss”
It's really hard to defend the 3 when the opponent forces Brook to close out on the open shooter. We definitely need guards that can fight over screens to help him out.
Yeah we def need guard help but honestly Doc needed to try some stuff out. My problem was the complete lack of adjustments to them raining threes. I can accept losing with trying but making no adjustments is unacceptable
Pacers are a streaky team. One of the most mercurial playoff teams in who they beat and can lose to. Knicks struggled to beat teams over .500. Pacers struggled to beat teams under .500
Pacers were .500 vs non-Hawk teams under .500 Knicks were like .850
If we're being honest, great fight by the team. The biggest issue we have is our supposed key role players are honestly unplayable 95% of the time. Jae Crowder and Pat Connaughton are supposed to be difference makers and actively hurt the team. Beasley can get hot at times but he can't play defense effectively at all, even though he tries.
Bobby Portis also kills this team defensively (sometimes on offense too). That's 4 key players who can actively hurt the team at any given point.
That's 4 role players who were supposed to help contend for a title.
The shift in role players next year is going to make a huge difference I think.
Series isn't over and lets hope for the best, but Khris (and to an extent Dame) have proven once again they can perform in big games. Get Giannis with these two surrounded by younger, more athletic players.....and we might be cooking. Excited for AJJ and Green and hopefully some other pieces.
He took so many hard hits. Dude was fighting nothing but respect for him to battle through this. Let’s reward him with the first bucks 3-1 comeback in history
If role players didn't have weaknesses they wouldn't be role players. Jae doesn't need anymore minutes. They're really missing an initiator outside of Middleton.
Sure but role players should still be net-neutral at worst. You can have a bench guy that hits buckets and can’t play defense when you need an offensive spark, or you can have a 3 and D guy that can’t really create his own shot on offense but still can effectively shut down guys on defense and hit open 3’s.
But you can’t have guy like Crowder who can’t defend anymore, can’t hit shots when open, can’t create shots, can’t move the ball, can’t protect the rim, and can’t box out for rebounds. Or Patty Con who *hustles* to be mediocre. He can’t stand up on defense against big guards or wings at all, he doesn’t hit buckets on a regular basis to be a spark plug, and he can’t move the ball to create offense for anyone else.
But AJ Green and Ajax can do those things.
Correct....But we have role players who very rarely provide any sort of positive impact on the game. As Shaq always says, the "others" are super important to win a title. Definitely need another initiator, I agree.
Bobby would’ve really helped on the turner 3pt close outs though. Brook is amazing and I don’t wanna hear any slander about him but he’s just too slow to close out from the paint
Sure but he went and got himself ejected in the first quarter out of frustration.
I like Bobby and I’ll always have a soft spot for how he played in 2021, especially in the post season, but dude is dogwater right now.
Given Indianas stat line, I would've guessed this was a blowout.
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I don’t want to see crowder in a bucks uniform again. Don’t even come back to Milwaukee bum ass been a worse trade than Ibaka.
Good on Khris Brook Ajax and AJ for doing their best tonight.
He's a free agent, he won't be back.
He honestly looked okay to start the season and then had that injury. He was terrible ever since. His time here was terrible.
Donte wouldn’t be on the team right now regardless of the trade (newflash we don’t pay our young guys like ever) and it was made for Brook insurance. Crowder is the most negative asset on our team. I don’t think the pistons would trade their worst player for him.
3 playoffs in a row. He was great against the Suns but also we literally stopped playing him against the Nets. He’s incredibly matchup dependent. And even worse he usually becomes a nobody on the road. It’s a tough ask for a key piece to your team.
The positives after this game is that it looks like Doc might actually play AJ Green and Ajax next season and that I get to watch the Pacers get swept by the Knicks after having to watch them talk shit to G-Leaguers for a whole series. Oh and remember that it could always be worse, we could be Suns fans.
No Giannis, no Lillard, no Bobby, hobbled Khris and Beverley, some bad calls against us, historic shooting night from the Pacers; and still in striking distance. I definitely enjoyed this game
What's frustrating is that if Giannis and Dame never got hurt this series would look so different. It's also frustrating that it's another year where Giannis gets hurt and we go down to a team that we have no business losing to.
But there is hope. A series isn't over after 3-1. If Giannis can come back, I've seen him do heroic things before. We just need Giannis back for game 5.
Idk about you but this game gives me hope for the next season. We NEED to give AJax consistent mins and the same with AJ. We more more athleticism surrounding the core and a big man who can rebound.
Appreciate the Effort. Sucks we don’t get one Giannis and Dame playoff game. It’s just a wasted year which is so unlucky. Because if we are fully healthy we win this series easily.
honestly they have close to a 0% chance of winning this series if we get good injury news over the next couple of days. i say this knowing we're down 3-1.
I personally think it was a dereliction of duty from the coaching staff to not play MarJon. What would we have had to lose? Pat Connaughton couldn't hit a shot and I bet MarJon has much more energy and defensive potential than him. In addition, I know that Thinasis is not a great option generally, but given this unique situation, why not throw him out there and throw him at some of these players...he can be kind of a pest.
I'd keep Bobby because I do think he contributes as a player off the bench and when he isn't the main go to. But PC, Malik and Crowder...they are washed and need to go. And I wish we could develop AJAX, AJ, and MarJon.
Today Beasley did provide something for the team. Last month or so he's been in a slump, but at least he did something today, unlike Crowder... At least he showed up during the season, unlike Crowder... Same with Bobby, he does turn up when it's necessary (sometimes), which is better than 3 bricks in a row from Jae that completely kills our momentum every time. Jae has offered NOTHING to us this series whatsoever.
I agree tho, if we want to make a run next year, we will need young players that have the energy to defend. Our vets don't do much of that anymore, even less as time goes on. Give the young bucks minutes, start them here and there, develop them for the playoffs next year.
Ajax stuffed the stat sheet with 6 pts, 6 rebounds, 7 assists, and 3 steals. How could a coach whose been around basketball for 40 years not see how useful Ajax can be?
Im just saying if im a pacers fan and just watched that game. And then found out Giannis and dame could play the rest of the series, I would be very nervous.
If dame and Giannis can’t go. I might not watch.
It’s annoying as hell because these players get all worked up for nothing
They know they aren’t gonna fight anyway, so why waste time getting into shoving matches?
Beasly at 34 minutes is just too much. We need AJJ up at 32-34, less minutes from Gallo and Jae, Marjon and Portis pick up those minutes next game please.
Bobby has had people making excuses for him his whole career. People reinforce his bullshit rather than hold him accountable.
If he was there tonight, his rebounds alone may have got us there.
Bobby costs us more than he gives us. Stop cheering for this clown.
One thing I want to add, Andrew Nembhard was able to penetrate 3 straight times in the 4th without any trouble and was only stopped with a help defender inside the paint. We can’t guard the perimeter, the paint and the three without conceding at least one. They made us pay from three tonight.
FWIW, That was a far more positive game than I ever expected. We found out there's some real talent on our bench and they're just as good if not better than the supposed "role players" like Jae and Pat.
AJ Green needs to tighten things up and stop learning the Pat C "imma throw myself in every direction and be out of position for the 3" defensive strategy. But he's young and can learn.
Ajax, dude needs to get real minutes next year. A little bit of maturity and he's gonna be damn good.
This series is probably over. But give them a whole off season of learning Doc's playbook and gelling and we might be able to run something back.
Not valuing the youth on the team has mattered so much. Jae and patty have offered nothing this series. Pat bev I like but he’s offered a little, marjon and Ajax haven’t been developed and should’ve been. We’d need size and athleticism against Boston and we need it in these games to even get there. Annoying, I’ll always be a fan of this team but frustrated by the choices made during the season. And speaking of giannis shouldn’t have played thru that injury all year he looked hobbled for long stretches and it’s fucked us. Bucks in 7.
What is the chance Giannis even plays on Tuesday?
I have no doubt we can complete a 3-1 comeback with him healthy but does the organization feel the same way?
Zero chance. Shut him down so he’s healthy for next season. And the team has to seriously think about resting him more throughout the season than they did this year. The regular season doesn’t mean shit. They just need to make the playoffs. They don’t need to be a top 3 seed. And there’s no way they would fall out of the playoffs entirely.
If he couldnt do limited minutes tonigjt hes not gonna just suddenly be out there in 2 days. They shelving the 2 stars til next year. Even if just to protect their trade value. Dame gonna request out
I'm not sure if Bobby would have made a difference in this game. We may have even played better without his ball stopping possessions and bad defense. I think I'm finally comfortable trading him.
Bobby had the best defensive game of his life vs Siakim in game 3. Walled him off beautifully. Today he was cheating super hard and gave up freebies and then was ejected. Shame. He seemed to be making buckets finally.
Bobby's rebounding alone is huge here. As soon as he left, second chance shots were raining.
Hes not a young but. He should know better. He is a liability. Too easy to bait.
The craziest thing is we had a basically identical fg% as the pacers. The offense was good enough and we stopped siakam. It doesn’t need to be said but the 3pt disparity is what killed us. Let’s pray we can get dame or Gianni’s Tuesday and Bobby has a redemption game. If we can last to Thursday I wouldn’t be surprised to have all the big 3 and anything’s possible from there
It'll be so entertaining seeing the Pacers get swept by the Knicks. All bark no actual bite, they only bite the ankles of hospital Bucks when they land on them on every layup attempt of ours. Bucks in 6!
The bucks and a stretch big torching us from 3, name a more iconic duo.
In all seriousness, it was a great fight we just couldn’t slow them down enough to keep up with our limited offense
For anyone still saying Doc defensive scheme is not the problem, if you can’t watch the game live, at least look at the Pacers 3pt% in the stat sheet. And for people saying it just lucky for Pacers, this is exactly how we let a comeback win slipped away in last game.
For how unbelievably unlucky this team has been with injuries, I know for a fact we are winning game 5. Then we are getting the road win in game 6 to bring it home for game 7.
I'm proud of us. AND we have to be smarter in the regular season with Giannis. Maybe he sits once we've clenched? It's not going to work with him out for the playoffs.
We kept it close most of the game with our two all-star starters hurt. Not much else you can ask.
Let our big three get healthy, consider trading a few of our older vets, draft an athletic big man + a good perimeter defender, and give Marjax, AJG, and Livingston more minutes and I’ll feel a lot better.
One could imagine an intense off-season resulting with a giannis, Dame, patbev, wemby starting lineup at the cost of Jae, brook, Beasley, Gallo, PC, and Bobby. Pat bev brings that dawg. Ajax and wemby feed off each other. Dame and giannis have time to build chemistry under doc. Khris does the exact same thing and stays healthy.
One can only dream (this is circlejerk bait)
Competitive game given our circumstances. Much better fight than I expected but that was going to be an impossible game to win. Let's go, get one back at home! Bobby - don't be a dumbass
Started following the Bucks as a blazers/dame fan this year and watched almost every game. Honestly, I'm feeling really good about the Bucks chances next year after this series.
Middleton & Dame looked incredible this series. And Giannis is always great. How many teams have 3 shot creators that reliable in the playoffs? They have a good chance with anyone in the east with that core + decent supporting cast.
Easy roster moves:
-Beas will walk and AJ can take his spot at 2 unless they luck out on a defensive 2 trade
-Ajax in the rotation
-Draft a wing defender and/or athletic defensive center (Murray-Boyles, Missi, Sallis, Holmes, Filipowski are all in range)
Unfortunately, I don't see Bucks getting much back for crowder or the pats. They could try. I don't mind the pats on this team. Maybe you get something better for Brook or Bobby, but likely not what they need. Plus, still need bobby's scoring punch off the bench.
I like brook but he is limited and old. Just adding a mobile backup big would go a long way.
Crowder is a free agent and I can't imagine they re-sign him. Pat Bev is too. Depending on cost, I wouldn't mind having him back for his defense. Feel like Pat C is consistently on the trade block. Brook and Bobby could be toss ups but like you said, unless you replace his scoring, you need Bobby off the bench
Khris out there dying on the court for this team. Couldn't buy a call. 5 times had them off their feet and land into him and no whistle. Both ankles in dire straights.
We need to match their physicality. If that means Thanasis and Marjon minutes do be it. But we have to pick them up full court and ride their bodies like they are doing to us. They aren't call thr handchecking. So why are we not doing it? But if we back off and then try to body them on drives we are going to get called for fouls.
Anyone thinking Giannis or Dame about to request a trade is delusional. Not too hard to understand how injuries have derailed us at the worst time. No situation gonna change that luck
I appreciate Brook for helping us get that ring, but it’s time to go blud. I don’t know how many times he left his guy wide open for a 3 to try to help on a 2. Jae….what does he even do? Why did we get him? I have no doubt if healthy, we smash Indiana but doc gives us no chance right now. I’m praying we get a new HC in the summer
Disappointing game for sure. Not much MKE could do when any team shoots the 3 ball like the Pacers just did. I’m honestly looking forward to game 5.
And the rest of you need to chill out about the Pacers/their fans. Take a few deep breaths and relax. They’re honestly not that bad. Indy’s a young team and they have their fans excited. Those of us who remember the Larry Drew era should be able to relate.
Bucks in 6, FMD, etc…
With Dame and Giannis and Khris fully healthy we win this series in 5. Regroup move on. Big moves needed in the offseason. Get some defensive help in and I mean 2,3 guys not just 1
If we can even just get Giannis back, we have a chance.....especially if Middleton is going to score how he has. Lillard is just that much of a zero defensively that I don't know that he is worth putting out there at 80%. He just doesn't turn the tide that much....Giannis' effect would be huge on defense.
I wasn't expecting to win either way but I find it funny we fired Griff for defense and I'm now forced to watch one of the worst defensive efforts I've ever seen in the playoffs right now. The only time we got a stop is when the Pacers just missed a shot
I would be livid with the defensive efforts and 3rd grade mistakes in a early December game
The fact that our players are caught double digit amounts of times jogging back, guarding literal fucking nobody, not watching their man for over 5 seconds as they just walks into a wide open cut is infuriating.
Bev and Middleton haven't even been that good, but I'd give them passable defensive grades. AJax can have a D. The rest get Fs or literal fucking 0s.
Brook Lopez and Damian Lillard aren't even playing defense when on the floor. In 4 games, no less than 40 times you can find both of them straight up guarding nobody.
The Pacers are barely as open during shoot around as they are in these games.
Crowder and Pat should not play a single minute next game even if Lillard and Giannis are out.
Give Jackson a ton of their minutes. Run only 6 or 7 deep if you have to it’s an elimination game.
Those two are genuinely the most useless players I’ve ever seen on a playoff team. Absolutely no joke Thanasis might be more useful. At least he can provide effort and high energy on defense.
"Are y'all ready for the funniest joke of all-time? I have to overcome a 3-1 deficit so people will get off my back. Giannis and Dame are ready to go. It's been a nice series so far, Indiana's a nice team, they shoot well."
The last final fragile branch of hope I have left is Giannis comes back for game 5 and fights with a brutal edge, and we take game 7 to win the series. I'd love this fairy tail movie ending, but the logical choice is to just not overload him and risk worse injury, but man, I just don't like the Pacers, lol. I'll be happy as long as the Pacers get eliminated.
Any team that struggles against our third stringers is trash. The pacers are a shit team and can't wait to see them drown. I used to love them, now lost all respect for them
Felt like a complete waste to not play Thanasis or Marjon until the very end when injuries (and ejections) were thinning the team out. Anything could have happened, maybe the team gets a bit more energy especially in the third. But I am no Doc Rivers.
Next season, Marjon Ajax and AJ green need serious minutes all season long. They need to be major parts of the rotation. Why our coaches never play young guys is beyond me. They cannot play any worse than the geriatric fucks we put out there.
Man this like what the third year in a row that an injury derails the post season? Like damn we really have had bad luck with injuries since winning that chip.
Not enough talent on this team tonight to win a road playoff game, but they fought. I'm proud of them.
I still believe we can win Tuesday night regardless of who plays, then if we can get Giannis back we are capable of winning two more games after that.
Some of you people need to remember it’s just a kids game played by Millionaires.
As an old fuck, take my advice and take a deep breath and relax.
Win or lose, you’ll wake up in the morning (hopefully).
Once you accept that sports is entertainment it’s a lot more enjoyable.
This is the golden age of Bucks basketball and I wouldn't trade the championship for anything, but it doesn't hurt any less when we lose. Damn, this is a tough spot.
Two games in a row AJJ had a positive +/- and it surprises no one
AJJ is a smart player and, as cliche as this phrase is, has a good feel for the game. I don't know why this team decided they wanted to run a bunch of 30yr olds ragged during the regular season while our young guys just ride the bench all season
Glen Rivers will Glen rivers 🤷🏻♂️
Tbf Griffin played them....
It did surprise Glen.
Glen - “He’s not going to do that every night” AJax - Literally does that every night
you go Glen Coco
Pat C benching AJax is a felony
Honestly, great performance given what we were up against. Just not enough offense and the Pacers went nuts from three (we could've defended way better). The best thing about all of this is knowing that the Pacers are going to absolutely get crushed by the Knicks and I will love every second of it.
They kept it close enough for quite a while that if they had gotten some variance in their favor they might have been able to steal it. About all you can ask for.
if both teams had the same 3pt luck we win by 5 points
At half time I thought to myself if the Pacers just come down to earth from three we'd have a shot. But... they just couldn't miss.
yeah I thought the same
Both teams were shooting out their ass at half.
nah we were at 31% and the pacers were at 56%
Bucks fg % at half was almost 60%. Both teams were going nuts.
Our defense was still ass, they were open at the 3pt line all game long. It's not luck, they are a skilled shooting team, we failed to contain them and hit our own. But is that a surprise with our DPOY and clutch 3pt shooter both injured and out?
We'll be honorary Knicks fans for the occasion
The knicks have Big Ragu and that’s enough for me
Knicks are the people’s champion
I played baseball with and against brunson back in the day really great kid always figured he'd probably make the NBA, but him being this good is insane lol
You don't find it suspicious that teans keep going nuts from 3 on us?
They’re not making it to the Knicks
Teams are consistently open from three against us. After a while the defensive philosophy needs to change besides “let’s leave em open and hope they miss”
It's really hard to defend the 3 when the opponent forces Brook to close out on the open shooter. We definitely need guards that can fight over screens to help him out.
Yeah we def need guard help but honestly Doc needed to try some stuff out. My problem was the complete lack of adjustments to them raining threes. I can accept losing with trying but making no adjustments is unacceptable
Pacers are a streaky team. One of the most mercurial playoff teams in who they beat and can lose to. Knicks struggled to beat teams over .500. Pacers struggled to beat teams under .500 Pacers were .500 vs non-Hawk teams under .500 Knicks were like .850
If we're being honest, great fight by the team. The biggest issue we have is our supposed key role players are honestly unplayable 95% of the time. Jae Crowder and Pat Connaughton are supposed to be difference makers and actively hurt the team. Beasley can get hot at times but he can't play defense effectively at all, even though he tries. Bobby Portis also kills this team defensively (sometimes on offense too). That's 4 key players who can actively hurt the team at any given point. That's 4 role players who were supposed to help contend for a title. The shift in role players next year is going to make a huge difference I think. Series isn't over and lets hope for the best, but Khris (and to an extent Dame) have proven once again they can perform in big games. Get Giannis with these two surrounded by younger, more athletic players.....and we might be cooking. Excited for AJJ and Green and hopefully some other pieces.
Khris is going to crumble next game or the one after that if theres one. Tonight he looked like he was talking with jesus near the end
Dude is gonna need a robocop body if he plays ine more full game
He took so many hard hits. Dude was fighting nothing but respect for him to battle through this. Let’s reward him with the first bucks 3-1 comeback in history
100%, no one can say Middleton isn't putting his all in. Dude is a beast.
Can you blame him? The man is fighting for his life out there
If role players didn't have weaknesses they wouldn't be role players. Jae doesn't need anymore minutes. They're really missing an initiator outside of Middleton.
Sure but role players should still be net-neutral at worst. You can have a bench guy that hits buckets and can’t play defense when you need an offensive spark, or you can have a 3 and D guy that can’t really create his own shot on offense but still can effectively shut down guys on defense and hit open 3’s. But you can’t have guy like Crowder who can’t defend anymore, can’t hit shots when open, can’t create shots, can’t move the ball, can’t protect the rim, and can’t box out for rebounds. Or Patty Con who *hustles* to be mediocre. He can’t stand up on defense against big guards or wings at all, he doesn’t hit buckets on a regular basis to be a spark plug, and he can’t move the ball to create offense for anyone else. But AJ Green and Ajax can do those things.
Correct....But we have role players who very rarely provide any sort of positive impact on the game. As Shaq always says, the "others" are super important to win a title. Definitely need another initiator, I agree.
Bobby would’ve really helped on the turner 3pt close outs though. Brook is amazing and I don’t wanna hear any slander about him but he’s just too slow to close out from the paint
Sure but he went and got himself ejected in the first quarter out of frustration. I like Bobby and I’ll always have a soft spot for how he played in 2021, especially in the post season, but dude is dogwater right now.
First half was surprising, but just made the 2nd half hurt more
Given Indianas stat line, I would've guessed this was a blowout. https://preview.redd.it/mmwcc6d5obxc1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=562cd118911aa6d1cb99c7b883f013de1553294c
Picture is hilarious lol
I don’t want to see crowder in a bucks uniform again. Don’t even come back to Milwaukee bum ass been a worse trade than Ibaka. Good on Khris Brook Ajax and AJ for doing their best tonight.
He's a free agent, he won't be back. He honestly looked okay to start the season and then had that injury. He was terrible ever since. His time here was terrible.
explain how sending jordan nwora, george hill and seconds is worse than sending out a starter on the knicks
5 seconds. And because crowder is actively hurting the team. Ibaka didn’t even play.
ok so just sending out a good player for someone who hurt the team by inaction gotcha
Donte wouldn’t be on the team right now regardless of the trade (newflash we don’t pay our young guys like ever) and it was made for Brook insurance. Crowder is the most negative asset on our team. I don’t think the pistons would trade their worst player for him.
We have one of the highest payrolls in the league. Horst just chose Pat and Grayson over Donte.
donte was injured 2 years in a row for us at different points so i see why they went with Grayson even if it looks stupid af now
Agreed. Donte was also a streaky 3-point shooter back then.
Might be the worst player I’ve seen in a long time regularly wear a Bucks jersey
Long live Ajax
Guys tried. Can’t be too disappointed. Portis let the team down.
I honestly think we looked better without him than with him this series. He's been awful 2 playoffs in a row.
3 playoffs in a row. He was great against the Suns but also we literally stopped playing him against the Nets. He’s incredibly matchup dependent. And even worse he usually becomes a nobody on the road. It’s a tough ask for a key piece to your team.
Well, at least we're still not the Phoenix Suns.
-said 29 different NBA franchises 😂
Giannis and Dame playing in Game 5 together would hit like crack
I'm certain that crack wouldn't hit as hard as that scenario would
The positives after this game is that it looks like Doc might actually play AJ Green and Ajax next season and that I get to watch the Pacers get swept by the Knicks after having to watch them talk shit to G-Leaguers for a whole series. Oh and remember that it could always be worse, we could be Suns fans.
You think the Marjon Beauchamp project is over with?
Every time he plays he looks scared and this is now 3 head coaches that haven't played him so probably.
The g league ignite track record is bad. He's a great guy, but I'm off the Marjon train.
I hope Livingston is healthy Tuesday and gets some run as well.
because we win by 20 right
Oh I’m just super high on him and would rather see him in than Crowder. But also yeah when we win by 20.
Good job, Bobby. Getting ejected Q1 when we were already shorthanded.
tired of his bullshit. I dont get what they see in him.
It sucks losing to a team we would absolutely beat at full strength. Hope we win at least the next one to kick them in their tiny nuts.
No Giannis, no Lillard, no Bobby, hobbled Khris and Beverley, some bad calls against us, historic shooting night from the Pacers; and still in striking distance. I definitely enjoyed this game
It was enjoying it in the was I enjoyed some of those pre Bud series where it felt like a Bucks win would be a steal.
I still remember the back-to-back Thon Maker breakout games against the Celtics in 2018
Should be 2-2 going back to MKE. That loss on Friday was brutal.
If we grabbed ONE of those consecutive like 6 offensive rebounds by the pacers we could have stolen that game
They showed heart both games, but game 3 is the one that got away.
Got em just where we want em
What's frustrating is that if Giannis and Dame never got hurt this series would look so different. It's also frustrating that it's another year where Giannis gets hurt and we go down to a team that we have no business losing to. But there is hope. A series isn't over after 3-1. If Giannis can come back, I've seen him do heroic things before. We just need Giannis back for game 5.
Just please win game 5. Hearing turner say “we’ve got one more to take care of on the road”. It’s not over folks, fill the fiserv
Idk about you but this game gives me hope for the next season. We NEED to give AJax consistent mins and the same with AJ. We more more athleticism surrounding the core and a big man who can rebound.
That was straight up a bad time
Appreciate the Effort. Sucks we don’t get one Giannis and Dame playoff game. It’s just a wasted year which is so unlucky. Because if we are fully healthy we win this series easily.
Pacers acting like they won the Finals after beating a lottery-level team lmao. Go Knicks.
series ain't over
I know but I desperately need to cope after 4 straight injury riddled playoffs. Thank god we got 1 ring
this pacers core has a 0% chance of winning a ring lmao
lbh i’m doubtful they even sniff a finals
honestly they have close to a 0% chance of winning this series if we get good injury news over the next couple of days. i say this knowing we're down 3-1.
Was about to say, let them have this, they're about to be humbled real soon.
like I don't even dislike them hali is a wisconsinite so even if he rubs me the wrong way I can't truly hate they just ain't all that
the pacers are not winning it all
Crowder 😑
 Not like this man
I personally think it was a dereliction of duty from the coaching staff to not play MarJon. What would we have had to lose? Pat Connaughton couldn't hit a shot and I bet MarJon has much more energy and defensive potential than him. In addition, I know that Thinasis is not a great option generally, but given this unique situation, why not throw him out there and throw him at some of these players...he can be kind of a pest.
Brunson is going to humble this bitch ass team. That’s what gets me through having to look at their corny faces
Hartenstein gonna have a fried halibut sammich!!
Hartenstein one of the most underrated players today. He will feast.
And it just makes it so much sweeter knowing how nasty New York fans are at talking shit 👌
Bobby, Pat, and Crowder shouldn’t sniff this squad next year. We need wing defenders and youth. Ajax my beloved starting getting ready
I'd keep Bobby because I do think he contributes as a player off the bench and when he isn't the main go to. But PC, Malik and Crowder...they are washed and need to go. And I wish we could develop AJAX, AJ, and MarJon.
Today Beasley did provide something for the team. Last month or so he's been in a slump, but at least he did something today, unlike Crowder... At least he showed up during the season, unlike Crowder... Same with Bobby, he does turn up when it's necessary (sometimes), which is better than 3 bricks in a row from Jae that completely kills our momentum every time. Jae has offered NOTHING to us this series whatsoever. I agree tho, if we want to make a run next year, we will need young players that have the energy to defend. Our vets don't do much of that anymore, even less as time goes on. Give the young bucks minutes, start them here and there, develop them for the playoffs next year.
Ajax stuffed the stat sheet with 6 pts, 6 rebounds, 7 assists, and 3 steals. How could a coach whose been around basketball for 40 years not see how useful Ajax can be?
Im just saying if im a pacers fan and just watched that game. And then found out Giannis and dame could play the rest of the series, I would be very nervous. If dame and Giannis can’t go. I might not watch.
I’m so Fn done with Bobby. Most important game of the season and he throws it away trying to act tough. Let the whole team down. Such a selfish player
It’s annoying as hell because these players get all worked up for nothing They know they aren’t gonna fight anyway, so why waste time getting into shoving matches?
Beasly at 34 minutes is just too much. We need AJJ up at 32-34, less minutes from Gallo and Jae, Marjon and Portis pick up those minutes next game please.
Khris needs a statue beside Giannis
Bobby let down the whole city of Milwaukee tonight. Just no excuse for that
Definitely an overreaction by Bobby for sure costing the team. However I'm on page with him hating this Nimrod guy
Bobby has had people making excuses for him his whole career. People reinforce his bullshit rather than hold him accountable. If he was there tonight, his rebounds alone may have got us there. Bobby costs us more than he gives us. Stop cheering for this clown.
One thing I want to add, Andrew Nembhard was able to penetrate 3 straight times in the 4th without any trouble and was only stopped with a help defender inside the paint. We can’t guard the perimeter, the paint and the three without conceding at least one. They made us pay from three tonight.
Beas gave up all three of those drives. He didn't even try to trail Nembhard.
And to think he was our point of attack defender for like half the season
FWIW, That was a far more positive game than I ever expected. We found out there's some real talent on our bench and they're just as good if not better than the supposed "role players" like Jae and Pat. AJ Green needs to tighten things up and stop learning the Pat C "imma throw myself in every direction and be out of position for the 3" defensive strategy. But he's young and can learn. Ajax, dude needs to get real minutes next year. A little bit of maturity and he's gonna be damn good. This series is probably over. But give them a whole off season of learning Doc's playbook and gelling and we might be able to run something back.
Not valuing the youth on the team has mattered so much. Jae and patty have offered nothing this series. Pat bev I like but he’s offered a little, marjon and Ajax haven’t been developed and should’ve been. We’d need size and athleticism against Boston and we need it in these games to even get there. Annoying, I’ll always be a fan of this team but frustrated by the choices made during the season. And speaking of giannis shouldn’t have played thru that injury all year he looked hobbled for long stretches and it’s fucked us. Bucks in 7.
Wish we all could have watched an even matchup with our franchise guys in there, but life is unfair
What is the chance Giannis even plays on Tuesday? I have no doubt we can complete a 3-1 comeback with him healthy but does the organization feel the same way?
He absolutely better be out there, he single handedly transforms the team into something different
Zero chance. Shut him down so he’s healthy for next season. And the team has to seriously think about resting him more throughout the season than they did this year. The regular season doesn’t mean shit. They just need to make the playoffs. They don’t need to be a top 3 seed. And there’s no way they would fall out of the playoffs entirely.
If he couldnt do limited minutes tonigjt hes not gonna just suddenly be out there in 2 days. They shelving the 2 stars til next year. Even if just to protect their trade value. Dame gonna request out
Ajax +9 in 25min Malik -19 in 34min … Doc is wrong for that.
Pat connaughton is fucking horrific. He's supposed to be a three point sniper? Did he make a single three tonight? Fucking useless
Pat has his moments. Just didnt tonight. for his pay, most teams would love him.
I'm not sure if Bobby would have made a difference in this game. We may have even played better without his ball stopping possessions and bad defense. I think I'm finally comfortable trading him.
Bobby had the best defensive game of his life vs Siakim in game 3. Walled him off beautifully. Today he was cheating super hard and gave up freebies and then was ejected. Shame. He seemed to be making buckets finally.
Bobby's rebounding alone is huge here. As soon as he left, second chance shots were raining. Hes not a young but. He should know better. He is a liability. Too easy to bait.
Alright hear me out…what if doc manages to do a reverse doc
Cod Rivers?
We can only hope! I'd love to see us humble them by winning 3 straight. Just very unfortunate given the injuries
The craziest thing is we had a basically identical fg% as the pacers. The offense was good enough and we stopped siakam. It doesn’t need to be said but the 3pt disparity is what killed us. Let’s pray we can get dame or Gianni’s Tuesday and Bobby has a redemption game. If we can last to Thursday I wouldn’t be surprised to have all the big 3 and anything’s possible from there
Cmon Bobby... they could've stole that one
So is Giannis in on Tuesday?
Brook needs to have a high scoring game 5. Raise his trade value 😈
It'll be so entertaining seeing the Pacers get swept by the Knicks. All bark no actual bite, they only bite the ankles of hospital Bucks when they land on them on every layup attempt of ours. Bucks in 6!
Crowder, Malik, and Pat C should be gone this offseason. I'm willing to take picks for Pat C
The bucks and a stretch big torching us from 3, name a more iconic duo. In all seriousness, it was a great fight we just couldn’t slow them down enough to keep up with our limited offense
For anyone still saying Doc defensive scheme is not the problem, if you can’t watch the game live, at least look at the Pacers 3pt% in the stat sheet. And for people saying it just lucky for Pacers, this is exactly how we let a comeback win slipped away in last game.
Bud and Griff's defenses gave up 3-pointers as well. Maybe the problem is personnel (cough: Brook).
Next season we should start Ajax
For how unbelievably unlucky this team has been with injuries, I know for a fact we are winning game 5. Then we are getting the road win in game 6 to bring it home for game 7.
I'm proud of us. AND we have to be smarter in the regular season with Giannis. Maybe he sits once we've clenched? It's not going to work with him out for the playoffs.
Haha clenched.
We kept it close most of the game with our two all-star starters hurt. Not much else you can ask. Let our big three get healthy, consider trading a few of our older vets, draft an athletic big man + a good perimeter defender, and give Marjax, AJG, and Livingston more minutes and I’ll feel a lot better.
One could imagine an intense off-season resulting with a giannis, Dame, patbev, wemby starting lineup at the cost of Jae, brook, Beasley, Gallo, PC, and Bobby. Pat bev brings that dawg. Ajax and wemby feed off each other. Dame and giannis have time to build chemistry under doc. Khris does the exact same thing and stays healthy. One can only dream (this is circlejerk bait)
Can't wait for all the Pacers lurkers to bombard the sub again
Pacers lurker here, glad I haven’t seen any of our obnoxious goons post Bucks in 6 here. I was like dreading it actually.
Competitive game given our circumstances. Much better fight than I expected but that was going to be an impossible game to win. Let's go, get one back at home! Bobby - don't be a dumbass
Bucks in 7 if Giannis and dame are back
Started following the Bucks as a blazers/dame fan this year and watched almost every game. Honestly, I'm feeling really good about the Bucks chances next year after this series. Middleton & Dame looked incredible this series. And Giannis is always great. How many teams have 3 shot creators that reliable in the playoffs? They have a good chance with anyone in the east with that core + decent supporting cast. Easy roster moves: -Beas will walk and AJ can take his spot at 2 unless they luck out on a defensive 2 trade -Ajax in the rotation -Draft a wing defender and/or athletic defensive center (Murray-Boyles, Missi, Sallis, Holmes, Filipowski are all in range) Unfortunately, I don't see Bucks getting much back for crowder or the pats. They could try. I don't mind the pats on this team. Maybe you get something better for Brook or Bobby, but likely not what they need. Plus, still need bobby's scoring punch off the bench. I like brook but he is limited and old. Just adding a mobile backup big would go a long way.
Crowder is a free agent and I can't imagine they re-sign him. Pat Bev is too. Depending on cost, I wouldn't mind having him back for his defense. Feel like Pat C is consistently on the trade block. Brook and Bobby could be toss ups but like you said, unless you replace his scoring, you need Bobby off the bench
Khris out there dying on the court for this team. Couldn't buy a call. 5 times had them off their feet and land into him and no whistle. Both ankles in dire straights. We need to match their physicality. If that means Thanasis and Marjon minutes do be it. But we have to pick them up full court and ride their bodies like they are doing to us. They aren't call thr handchecking. So why are we not doing it? But if we back off and then try to body them on drives we are going to get called for fouls.
Anyone thinking Giannis or Dame about to request a trade is delusional. Not too hard to understand how injuries have derailed us at the worst time. No situation gonna change that luck
I appreciate Brook for helping us get that ring, but it’s time to go blud. I don’t know how many times he left his guy wide open for a 3 to try to help on a 2. Jae….what does he even do? Why did we get him? I have no doubt if healthy, we smash Indiana but doc gives us no chance right now. I’m praying we get a new HC in the summer
He needed to go like two seasons ago. Horst holding on to the olds waayyy to long
we need to pay another coach
Pretty sure Bev is injured now too
Disappointing game for sure. Not much MKE could do when any team shoots the 3 ball like the Pacers just did. I’m honestly looking forward to game 5. And the rest of you need to chill out about the Pacers/their fans. Take a few deep breaths and relax. They’re honestly not that bad. Indy’s a young team and they have their fans excited. Those of us who remember the Larry Drew era should be able to relate. Bucks in 6, FMD, etc…
With Dame and Giannis and Khris fully healthy we win this series in 5. Regroup move on. Big moves needed in the offseason. Get some defensive help in and I mean 2,3 guys not just 1
I feel like this is first time all season bucks fans have been aligned in awhile. Good to have everyone back
If we can even just get Giannis back, we have a chance.....especially if Middleton is going to score how he has. Lillard is just that much of a zero defensively that I don't know that he is worth putting out there at 80%. He just doesn't turn the tide that much....Giannis' effect would be huge on defense.
After all of this the only thing i can think, is hey atleast we aren't the Suns stuck with Beal and no control over our picks for 6 years.
Bucks in 7.
I wasn't expecting to win either way but I find it funny we fired Griff for defense and I'm now forced to watch one of the worst defensive efforts I've ever seen in the playoffs right now. The only time we got a stop is when the Pacers just missed a shot
I would be livid with the defensive efforts and 3rd grade mistakes in a early December game The fact that our players are caught double digit amounts of times jogging back, guarding literal fucking nobody, not watching their man for over 5 seconds as they just walks into a wide open cut is infuriating. Bev and Middleton haven't even been that good, but I'd give them passable defensive grades. AJax can have a D. The rest get Fs or literal fucking 0s. Brook Lopez and Damian Lillard aren't even playing defense when on the floor. In 4 games, no less than 40 times you can find both of them straight up guarding nobody. The Pacers are barely as open during shoot around as they are in these games.
Crowder and Pat should not play a single minute next game even if Lillard and Giannis are out. Give Jackson a ton of their minutes. Run only 6 or 7 deep if you have to it’s an elimination game. Those two are genuinely the most useless players I’ve ever seen on a playoff team. Absolutely no joke Thanasis might be more useful. At least he can provide effort and high energy on defense.
"Are y'all ready for the funniest joke of all-time? I have to overcome a 3-1 deficit so people will get off my back. Giannis and Dame are ready to go. It's been a nice series so far, Indiana's a nice team, they shoot well."
At least we’re not the suns. They’re all healthy
Bobby & Pat C gotta go this offseason man
Forgot about Jae
and Beasley and crowder
Beasley on a vet min like this year is more than fine tbh, Crowder is gone
Beasley led the team as a negative tonight. Rather take a chance on someone else.
For a vet min I see no problem purely because you also need guys to fill a regular season role. He plays much better with Giannis on the floor too
I hope we can win three straight, but I take solace that the Pacers are going to get smacked by someone this playoffs.
The last final fragile branch of hope I have left is Giannis comes back for game 5 and fights with a brutal edge, and we take game 7 to win the series. I'd love this fairy tail movie ending, but the logical choice is to just not overload him and risk worse injury, but man, I just don't like the Pacers, lol. I'll be happy as long as the Pacers get eliminated.
It's not happening. He's out for the series which means that's it for this season. Next year.
Any team that struggles against our third stringers is trash. The pacers are a shit team and can't wait to see them drown. I used to love them, now lost all respect for them
Pacers are young and should be likable but its totally opposite, these guys are all so easily hateable. Nemdoo, Nedoo, mcdoo, halidoo, lost goes on
Felt like a complete waste to not play Thanasis or Marjon until the very end when injuries (and ejections) were thinning the team out. Anything could have happened, maybe the team gets a bit more energy especially in the third. But I am no Doc Rivers.
Next season, Marjon Ajax and AJ green need serious minutes all season long. They need to be major parts of the rotation. Why our coaches never play young guys is beyond me. They cannot play any worse than the geriatric fucks we put out there.
MarJon is not going to be on this team man. I don’t know what more people need to see to realize this.
Man this like what the third year in a row that an injury derails the post season? Like damn we really have had bad luck with injuries since winning that chip.
Bucks in 7 dammit! I just had to say that…
Not enough talent on this team tonight to win a road playoff game, but they fought. I'm proud of them. I still believe we can win Tuesday night regardless of who plays, then if we can get Giannis back we are capable of winning two more games after that.
Some of you people need to remember it’s just a kids game played by Millionaires. As an old fuck, take my advice and take a deep breath and relax. Win or lose, you’ll wake up in the morning (hopefully). Once you accept that sports is entertainment it’s a lot more enjoyable.
I'm going insane...
I'm tired boss
Turner can go play with legos
Proud!
This team isn’t giving up and I’m not either. Let’s get game 5 and hopefully we have dame and Giannis for game 6
This is the golden age of Bucks basketball and I wouldn't trade the championship for anything, but it doesn't hurt any less when we lose. Damn, this is a tough spot.
Who were the fucking announcers?
Well this season was underwhelming to say the least
At least Giannis is Starry https://preview.redd.it/17hq419n1cxc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ab8bd9f2364a6562ec470b272b14b5427860c69
I know situation looks dire but why has everyone just assumed that the season is over? Couldn't both dame and giannis be back for the next game