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They 100% can't do this before November. If they do it before, and rule that the President has Immunity, then Trump himself could just disappear and all Biden would have to say is "Immunity."
Now we all know that's not gonna happen, but if the Supreme Court rules too soon, there's a lot of shenanigans that could be pulled.
I think the idea is to hand Trump total immunity when he becomes the dictator. Presidential Immunity before that would be premature.
100% this is what they're going to wait on. If biden gets reelected, it's an easy "of course the president isn't immune from everything". If trump happens to win, well, they seem to think they have the unilateral authority to rule him immune from all prosecution that isn't an impeachment, which is really really dangerous. I don't see that ending well for our country if that happens.
The right ruling is that the president isn't immune, so im hoping biden wins, if for no other reason that it will result in the supreme court making the right decision instead of a power grab.
Just…as a historian, I’m imagining living a couple hundred years in the future, reading about when the SCOTUS ruled that the president was immune from prosecution. How can anyone think of that as anything but another nail in the coffin of the Golden Age of the American Republic? What a shameless betrayal of American ideals.
And I’m not even a nationalist, damn. What a bunch of hypocrites.
Not for nothing but although Biden is super old, he’s not a terrible leader.
I don’t think people are giving credit where credit is due. He inherited Trump disaster of an admin, cleaned up, got us the fuck out of Afghanistan, has start no new wars, forgiven much student debt and is handling a recession/downturn better than expected.
He’s got a lot to fight and there’s legit criticisms but he’s really not as terrible as people think he is. I’m just pissed we’re electing someone that is older than my dead dad.
You can’t say that you’re not so sure about no new wars, there’s literally no new wars America is being directly involved in. Not a single U.S. casualty in Ukraine, we made a mockery of Russia’s weakness (their corruption and weak military) by supplying weapons to our allies. We’ve made Swiss cheese of Russia within any American soldiers dead. Be sure to thank Ukrainians next time you meet one.
Hm, not quite 250. There was that whole civil war business.
One thing that gives me hope is that there was a time in American history when “the two sides” were not just metaphorically at their throats, but literally. We came back from that, right? At least it’s possible to come back from this.
They absolutely *could* wait on making the opinion. Opinions are dropping slower and slower in the last few sesssions with an average ~1/3rd of a year turnover.
Now the question is if they can weather the political shitstorm that they pretend they’re above.
They are also 100% willing to wait until after the election to rule. If Biden wins, no, presidential immunity isn’t a thing…if the other pants shitting geriatric bronzer wins…
I think that we are going to make a ruling that says that there was not enough evidence that his claim of presidential immunity matters, but that they do believe that being a president has some immunity
Essentially, they leave it, confusing enough to delay, and then will be handing him a dictatorship after any shenanigans happen in the election
We now have a SCOTUS that has given aid and comfort to an oath breaking insurrectionist. It should illegal for any justice or judge to preside over any case involving the person that appointed them. Period.
It usually is for judges at least, they can't be personally involved. That's why Trump's strategy involved antagonizing them via stochastic terrorism so they'd have to recuse themselves for fear of unjust retaliation
Definitely a conflict of interests... or in this case an overwhelming concurrence in a vested future together with lucrative business potential. We live in a top down problem... not left and right. Especially not left and right when both of them have hands in their pockets holding wads of cash, and probably some suggestions. (The hands aren't their own).
Because in Theory after the ruling they have 30 days to officially post it. The judge said that both sides will get 90 days to prepare for the trial, so that means jury selection won’t start until October. So no way that we get a verdict before the election…
With a little shame I will nod vigorously. She’s smart, dedicated, a real policy wonk, cares about right and wrong, works for her constituents. And yes, she’s a stone cold fox who makes a good dog break his leash. Gavin newsome is a handsome man. We can equally objectify!
Gavin Newsome has his own quirks, but he does certainly have charisma. Unlike some politicians that just look like they’ve never taken a public speaking class before in their life.
I’ll happily vote for Genocide Joe if he gets presidential immunity and drills Trump in the face with a Desert Eagle, right there on Broadway.
Or has a sniper take him (and Johnson & MTG & whomever is on stage with him) at one of his Klan rallies.
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They 100% can't do this before November. If they do it before, and rule that the President has Immunity, then Trump himself could just disappear and all Biden would have to say is "Immunity." Now we all know that's not gonna happen, but if the Supreme Court rules too soon, there's a lot of shenanigans that could be pulled. I think the idea is to hand Trump total immunity when he becomes the dictator. Presidential Immunity before that would be premature.
100% this is what they're going to wait on. If biden gets reelected, it's an easy "of course the president isn't immune from everything". If trump happens to win, well, they seem to think they have the unilateral authority to rule him immune from all prosecution that isn't an impeachment, which is really really dangerous. I don't see that ending well for our country if that happens. The right ruling is that the president isn't immune, so im hoping biden wins, if for no other reason that it will result in the supreme court making the right decision instead of a power grab.
Just…as a historian, I’m imagining living a couple hundred years in the future, reading about when the SCOTUS ruled that the president was immune from prosecution. How can anyone think of that as anything but another nail in the coffin of the Golden Age of the American Republic? What a shameless betrayal of American ideals. And I’m not even a nationalist, damn. What a bunch of hypocrites.
Not for nothing but although Biden is super old, he’s not a terrible leader. I don’t think people are giving credit where credit is due. He inherited Trump disaster of an admin, cleaned up, got us the fuck out of Afghanistan, has start no new wars, forgiven much student debt and is handling a recession/downturn better than expected. He’s got a lot to fight and there’s legit criticisms but he’s really not as terrible as people think he is. I’m just pissed we’re electing someone that is older than my dead dad.
I wouldn’t be so sure of the “new wars” point just yet with how he’s handling the middle east, but otherwise valid take haha
You can’t say that you’re not so sure about no new wars, there’s literally no new wars America is being directly involved in. Not a single U.S. casualty in Ukraine, we made a mockery of Russia’s weakness (their corruption and weak military) by supplying weapons to our allies. We’ve made Swiss cheese of Russia within any American soldiers dead. Be sure to thank Ukrainians next time you meet one.
Well not immune to what the "Tangerine Wankmaggot" has in mind.
This would be how the real civil war starts.
Sigh. 250 years of peaceful transition of gvt and this nimrod bows it all for a buck
He would have done it for the promise of a penny
He would have done it while sucking off putlers dick and praising Russia when he swalloss
He would have done it for a compliment.
Hm, not quite 250. There was that whole civil war business. One thing that gives me hope is that there was a time in American history when “the two sides” were not just metaphorically at their throats, but literally. We came back from that, right? At least it’s possible to come back from this.
It's debatable if we came back from that.
The South never received their comeuppance. Instead they got jim crow laws and all sorts of unjustified forgiveness.
159 years ***
They absolutely *could* wait on making the opinion. Opinions are dropping slower and slower in the last few sesssions with an average ~1/3rd of a year turnover. Now the question is if they can weather the political shitstorm that they pretend they’re above.
That's how FDR tried expanding the court. They couldn't keep up with the work so they needed more judges.
They are also 100% willing to wait until after the election to rule. If Biden wins, no, presidential immunity isn’t a thing…if the other pants shitting geriatric bronzer wins…
I think that we are going to make a ruling that says that there was not enough evidence that his claim of presidential immunity matters, but that they do believe that being a president has some immunity Essentially, they leave it, confusing enough to delay, and then will be handing him a dictatorship after any shenanigans happen in the election
I don’t think they want to make trump dictator at all. They are holding out for someone not so heatheny.
We now have a SCOTUS that has given aid and comfort to an oath breaking insurrectionist. It should illegal for any justice or judge to preside over any case involving the person that appointed them. Period.
It usually is for judges at least, they can't be personally involved. That's why Trump's strategy involved antagonizing them via stochastic terrorism so they'd have to recuse themselves for fear of unjust retaliation
Definitely a conflict of interests... or in this case an overwhelming concurrence in a vested future together with lucrative business potential. We live in a top down problem... not left and right. Especially not left and right when both of them have hands in their pockets holding wads of cash, and probably some suggestions. (The hands aren't their own).
To be fair, didn't the president nominate them and wasn't it the Senate that ultimately approved the nominees?
You don’t get to pick your own judges dude. There’s no place this is not corrupt. Approval by the Senate doesn’t make it in any way better.
Jus saying it's a little misleading to claim trump waved his stubby orange finger and unilaterally appointed anyone on the SCOTUS.
Well didn’t they? By majority anyway.
ELI5 - why May?
Because in Theory after the ruling they have 30 days to officially post it. The judge said that both sides will get 90 days to prepare for the trial, so that means jury selection won’t start until October. So no way that we get a verdict before the election…
Goodness me AOC is so fine
With a little shame I will nod vigorously. She’s smart, dedicated, a real policy wonk, cares about right and wrong, works for her constituents. And yes, she’s a stone cold fox who makes a good dog break his leash. Gavin newsome is a handsome man. We can equally objectify!
I am in stark agreement my good sir. Here here!
Gavin Newsome has his own quirks, but he does certainly have charisma. Unlike some politicians that just look like they’ve never taken a public speaking class before in their life.
You aren't wrong.. but the simping detracts from the real work she does.
Lol yeah ok procrasturbating
Touché
Bonk Straight to Horny jail for you
Joke’s on you. I’m into AOC hitting me hard over the head with a giant club!
Thanks.
You know they will 🙄😮💨
I’ll happily vote for Genocide Joe if he gets presidential immunity and drills Trump in the face with a Desert Eagle, right there on Broadway. Or has a sniper take him (and Johnson & MTG & whomever is on stage with him) at one of his Klan rallies.
Nice boots
Get em off the couch.
They're on the ottoman
They're called Turks now
Heh. Nice.
Frickin' SCROTUS
The only question is which set of billionaires paid SCOTUS the most.
We all know the outcome of this though. They won’t do it before we vote either.
European here, don't understand.
What am I missing here?