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LeoMarius

"I bought some tape and it's sticky. What do I do?"


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LeoMarius

Especially when he's locked in your house with no other company.


ColdJackle

Ikr?? How are there still people that don't understand the difference between an animal and a f*cking television.


mockingbyrd7

Beats me. How come there are still people who don't understand sarcasm?


hondtel

That's probably it, Lack of options.. ;-)


chuckdiesel86

You just reminded me of how my ex always wanted to keep our dog locked in a crate all day and I got super pissed off again lol.


Huuuiuik

He’s heard of friends. He doesn’t understand what they’re really for. Sociopathic reasoning.


punkwalrus

My dad was like this. Never had a friend the entire time I knew him. He sometimes spouted out lectures about the uselessness of friends unless you needed them for something. He treated people like we treat appliances. You never think about your toaster until you need toast, you use it, and then stop thinking about it until you need it again. He treated people the same way. He'd abruptly drop any contact with a person the second he was done. He knew it too, and derived great humor from anyone who got upset by it.


geriatricgoepher

Don, is that you?


MihoffJack

This is the exact definition of a psychopath. I don't think I have ever heard it explained better.


FreddyEmme17

Did your dad die alone in the cheapest retirement home your area has available?


punkwalrus

He's actually still alive (I think, we haven't spoken in 23 years, but I had evidence he's still around a few years ago) and living well in a nice condo on the west coast. Made a lot of money in defense contracts off our tax dollars.


FreddyEmme17

Clearly proof there's no justice in this world if such c%nt can still be not only alive and kicking, but also enjoying a large sum of money. I'm sorry to hear you have no relationship for the last 23 years, it's understandable, given the person, but it still sucks balls. I haven't the best relationship with my family either if you exclude my sister. I had to fuck off to another country and make a brand new life!


punkwalrus

My dad never wanted kids. My mom waited 9 years until she just went off birth control. I was born, my dad almost left her over it. When my sister was born, he put his foot down he'd leave my mom, so my sister was given away for adoption at birth. I found her 23 years later.


RGHollis

Be careful, maybe eyeing you as a snack


PresentAir1133

One can only hope


ZappyCrook

put it over your mouth and stfu


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Yen_Snipest

I'LL KILL YOU IN YOUR SLEE-... OH oh nvmd you realized. My bad. *already stabbed you* hmmm... Your gonna be fiiiine.


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N3UROTOXIN

But mooooooom this tape has mouth all over it


D_I_C_K_H_E_A_D

You remove the tape and it's just moustache hair on it


GoldenSpermShower

At least it's just moustache hair...


AnusDrill

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Yes, the famous curly mustache hair


[deleted]

Free mustache rides? It's a friggin pandemic after all. Have a heart on.


TehFartCloud

just get a new mouth


KatanaxScar

put it over MY mouth😏


somerussianlol

_sweats profusely_


the-real-macs

If you can do it on command, one of the more effective tape removal strategies.


garrettj100

This may very well be the most wholesome, most liked post on all of reddit where some says shut the fuck up. Take your upvote you magnificent bastard!


AstralLizardon

Lmao


lady_lowercase

“i went swimming in my pool and now i’m drenched. how did this happen?”


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In breaking news, water is wet.


ForumPointsRdumb

"I asked for dry water goddamnit!"


StrangledMind

The difference is this psychopath would actually bond with the tape.


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Heckron

Pee into the mirror. Hard.


ralze

"There's a sign at Ramsett Park that says 'Do Not Drink the Sprinkler Water', so I made sun tea with it and now I have an infection."


lazeroe

"Return it and look for something else that you would like to use." OH MY GAWD MURDEERREDD.


FabulousTrade

Someone's always getting word-murdered on Quora. It's just too easy since some of the questions are trollish.


ominousgraycat

Quora can be a lot of fun sometimes, but the trolls don't even try that hard so only in small doses. "Why is my boyfriend so upset that I cheated on him 5 times and am pregnant with another man's child?" "Is it normal if my parents cut me with knives on an altar while saying prayers to Satan?"


cantadmittoposting

This is why I only look at the Fantasy and Comics sections of Quora. Still ridiculous questions with loaded answers, but at least I can read about outlandish crap that happened in comic books and obscure star wars publications.


LPeezysaurus

I don’t understand how Reddit can laugh at people who comment on The Onion articles while applauding people who answer fake questions on Quora.


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FabulousTrade

Okay, "most". Was being generous


appdevil

I think that "most" is also being generous.


My_Gaming_Companion

I guess this is exaggeration but many questions there are pretty good. Moreover whenever i have any question their is like same question asked in quora almost every time.


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There are a lot of good cannon questions for Star Wars on there.


yeetdablitfam

All but 1


shieldyboii

it’s because people get paid to ask questions with a lot of answers, and the dumber the questions the more answers you get.


MintyChewingGum

"My IQ was tested at 3000, is that good!?!?!?"


unlikeyourhero

Search why onions make you cry...fucking gold


Weed_O_Whirler

It's possible this owner just sucks, but also [the puppy blues](https://littlethings.com/pets/puppy-blues) are a real thing. Now, I'm obsessed with my dog and he's basically my best friend and we go on so many adventures together. But, about 2 weeks after my wife and I adopted him, for about a month, I really went through these feelings. He was already a year old when we got him, and big, and destructive. I would get so sad (not mad, just sad) when I came home and he had tore a hole in the couch. I remember that I had my alarm set a half hour earlier than normal to take him on a walk and thinking "this isn't bad now, but I have to keep my alarm set early for at least 10 more years. What have I done?" I knew other dog owners I reached out to who talked to me about this, and it helped a lot. If you go over to /r/dogs you'll see questions like this all the time. Perhaps they're worded a little better, but essentially lots of people, especially when it's their first pet, go through these feelings. And "murdering" them about it doesn't help. Telling them it's normal, and giving them advice on how to get through it helps.


lanalune

I went through something similar with my cat too. I'd say the first year was really difficult. I never owned a pet before and I wasn't prepared for the bad parts of pet ownership. I don't think it's openly talked about. There was a lot I wasn't aware of or prepared for. Cats are supposedly easier to care for than a dog but I don't think that's necessarily true. It was a lot of pressure to care for another being. It's difficult to communicate with your pet when you can't explain to them why they can't jump on the stove or chew through wires. It just took a lot of patience to learn how to train them and work with them and to learn their personalities too. It sounds dumb, but I never realized how much personality an animal can have. I watch my cat, and he's just so amazing. I see him thinking out problems (like trying to open the cabinet door to his food) or make decisions (mostly between sleeping spots). He's also very sneaky and has tried to trick me before. So while I agree that the negative feelings should be discussed and pet owners should be supported, the quora poster's wording made them sound callous and selfish. The way they said they "lost interest" was what stuck out to me. It doesn't seem like you lost interest in your dog, you were just overwhelmed by the commitment and the reality, but you remained dedicated, and that might be where the distinction lies.


Weed_O_Whirler

I agree it's worded very poorly. But at the same time, I feel a lot of people are sad but are bad at explaining their emotions. Again, it's possible this person is just a POS, but I feel it's equally likely they're just sad or scared.


an_nep

This was very well written. As a person who has cared for many cats, the work of figuring out how to communicate never stops. Each new one seems to behave & learn things in a different way than any cat I've had before. They really do have distinct personalities.


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Agreed. It's just me and my dog at my place. I love the guy and we do a lot together, but he's also at my heel all the time. If I get up from the couch to get a glass of water, he wakes up and follows me. If I'm going into a different room, he stops what he's doing and follows. Yes, he's a pack animal and yes he loves me, but there are days where it can be very grating to not have any space to myself. Lockdowns make it even tougher. Used to be able to go to a coffee shop for a couple of hours and just read, give us both some time away. None of that now.


Weed_O_Whirler

If I may say, that is how my dog was when we adopted him, and we did a lot of training to make him more independent, and it sucked, but it made life so much better. It was a long process, where we put up a baby gate, and sat right on the other side, so he could still see us and basically touch us, and we said "good boy" and threw him a treat every 10 seconds or so. Then, we backed just a foot away, and kept tossing treats, about 5 minutes at each place, then let the dog out, and that was it. Next stay, started where I ended the last time, and then went just a little further away. Just did this in 10-20 minute increments, increasing distance and decreasing treats, until the dog was ok with us being in a different room, just checking in every minute or so. The process took a month, but now I have a much more independent dog. He still normally is with us when we're home, but if I get up off the couch to get some water, he's ok waiting for us to get back, and sometimes he'll grab a bone and go hang out by himself.


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He's not too bad - and he has started going to his crate in the evenings when he wants more quiet time. Leaves me alone if I'm working in my home office and doesn't lose his mind if I leave the house. Just wants to be at my side every chance he gets.


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meepplant

If he's anything like my dog he'll cry until he's back with his best friend. I needed to take care of a few things in my bedroom the other day and I didn't want the dog following (because then I need to carry him back downstairs) so I shut the door. He waited about 30 seconds until he decided the world was ending. I love the dude and I'm so glad he loves me too, but all I'm asking is for a few minutes to grab my laundry every now and then.


Aomzeiksel

Honestly, it even happens with parents. when the rush of happiness comes down you realize it fucking sucks to wake up in the middle of the night to take care of your crying baby, or cleaning up your couch because you dog shat on it. Doesn't mean the parents/owners love them any less. We shouldn't shame people for not idealizing everything. It's life, not instagram.


[deleted]

This is one of those things that is taboo but so true. Parents are only human but heaven forbid they vent and people think they are bad parents. I know parents find it difficult to vent to someone because of this.


HowlingBadger43

I love how the ONLY constructive comment is buried way down here with 5 up votes and all the "kill em! They're a dog hater!" comments rise to the top. Shows what kind of world we live in doesn't it?


togashisbackpain

Funny part is they dont even know anything about that person besides the post. Maybe they will get used to this “clingy puppy” situation, or maybe they wont adapt and find a new home where the puppy will be a lot happier... But no, they are instantly “scum” and they ve already abandoned the puppy in everybody else’s eyes... People really need to get a grip. And the comment above ours needs to be upvoted more.


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Bibliosworm

Even when they aren’t puppies- even when they’re human babies instead of animals! Being responsible for the life, health, and well being of a small living thing can get exhausting. Sometimes you find yourself wishing you didn’t have to deal with it. I have a beagle who likes peeing on carpet, especially the carpet right in my front entryway. I definitely have moments of wishing I didn’t have dogs.


JPT_Corona

Anyone disagreeing with you is on their high-horse. I have a cat raised from a kitten and a dog raised from a puppy. Guess what everyone? Babies aren't easy to raise, regardless of species. It's perfectly fine to admit that being a pet owner isn't sunshine and lollipops 100% of the time. I still remember when my pup had diarrhea and shit liquid mud all over my carpet for days because she wasn't trained yet. I literally broke down and questioned my decision in having a dog during those days lol, but the good moments massively outweighs the bad.


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EmilyPseu

Thank you for linking that article. My husband and I just added a puppy to our pack and I’ve been feeling anxious and a bit depresses ever since. When we got our second dog, our first one took to him almost immediately and they were playing in the yard together on day one. They’re taking a little more time to adjust to the new kid and I’ve been super stressed and almost regretting bringing him home. My husband has been very supportive but I’d been really doubting myself, and knowing that it happens enough that someone wrote a whole article about it really helped me. Thank you!


TisforTurtle

Holy shit thank you for this reply. Everyone in the top comments are completely shitting on the person for asking a poorly worded but honest question. Like some of the insults about this person based on just this one quora question scares me how the hive mind mob mentality works here. Dogs get attachment anxiety from stuff like that as well and the owner could have easily just been referring to that but didn’t word the question a mile long. But no quora op needs to get cancer and never be allowed to own another animal ever. This sub is filled with a lot of people angry about their own issues and come here to feel some weird self righteous justice boner


Evlwolf

After we adopted our last dog, I had some second guesses about if we had made the right choice in adopting her. There were food aggression issues and a few other concerns with her behavior that I was unsure would be resolved. Over time and with training, many of those uses went away. After almost 8 years with her, she had to be put down in December due to cancer. We were destroyed. She was sweet, funny, loving, and a true light in our lives. Taking her to the vet last time was the hardest thing we ever had to do.


cuentaderana

Oh the puppy blues. The first month and a half after my fiancé and I brought our 8 week old rescue home was hell. We had to watch him constantly to make sure he didn’t pee. He needed to go out to pee sometimes 2 times a night. He woke us up every day at 6am crying in his crate. Things got easier when he potty trained in the first two and a half weeks, but the sleep depreciation continued. We couldn’t go anywhere for longer than an hour or two because he needed to use the bathroom. We had to take him with us if we wanted to be gone longer than that, and he didn’t have all his shots yet so we had to carry him and constantly worry about parvo. He loved to steal shoes and get into EVERYTHING. He was a full time job while we tried to work from home. But finally by 14 weeks he was sleeping through the night. We could give him a frozen kong and leave him crated long enough to go out for dinner. Those first weeks were so nightmarish though. We said no more puppies for a long long time .


Hadtarespond

I'm sorry but my gaming consoles require lots of attention from me.


badfan

Yeah, my Nintendo switch even follows me into the bathroom sometimes!


MuzikPhreak

You read the vet’s response. Get a tablet.


charisma6

Then why get a Nintendo???


AgitatedBadger

I've seen a bunch of people in the comments suggest that this person should get a cat because they are more independent, and I just want to point out how awful an idea that would be. This person is ill suited to be a pet owner in general. While cats are more independent than dogs are, they still require love, care and attention. I wouldn't trust this person with a fucking goldfish. If this person was to adopt a cat, it's likely to end up just as miserable as this poor puppy. There is a good chance that it will end up on the streets when the owner realizes that the cat will chew through wires and requires a litterbox that is scooped daily. If someone is this ignorant about the obligations associated with pet ownership, don't suggest an easier pet for them. Tell them not to get one at all.


PianistPerfect

Thank you. I wish people wouldn't push this stupid idea that cats don't want or require attention. They very much do. In almost every case of a cat acting like a complete untrained jackass, it's because they are untrained, under stimulated and in general not having their needs met because society has decided they have the independence of an adult human who pays their own bills.


Cleverpseudonym4

Yeah cats are independent in the sense that they know what they want and when they want it. Anyone trying to work on a computer or read a newspaper knows that they require a lot of affection and arent shy about demanding it.


maymays01

I think the biggest difference for me is they poop in a box and cover it up. I may be biased because I live in an area it gets below freezing but multiple outside walks a day would be a fucking nightmare. They still need lots of love and attention but neither of us have to go outside and freeze to death every time they feel the call of nature.


driatic

Honestly 4 walks a day is better for our life, we split it so you go for a walk twice a day. Even if it rains (dog also hates the rain) or if its cold. Gives you a reason to get out of bed, get some vitamin d even when there's nothing going on like all of 2020. It doesn't get that cold in Maryland though. Couldn't stand walking around further up north than that.


sabaping

I have a big backyard so we didnt do walks every day and it worked for my rottie(best dog ever, sadly gone from old age) I think big backyards are a lifesaver for dog owners especially living in an area with -10 or lower avg temps in winter. Even the dog isnt a fan of being out for long in that weather


Mohavor

Yeah that first line is spot on. I try to tell "dog people" that cats have the temperament of Huskies or Shiba Inus. I'm generalizing obviously but the point is cats aren't the opposite of dogs.


barabOLYA

Die hard "Dog people" has just never experienced a cat who was properly socialized/taken care of. My friend grew up with dogs and became fully anti-cat after a bad experience cat sitting. I had her over for a weekend & she is now obsessed with my kitten. She was amazed that all her cat concerns has solutions not that different from from dog solutions. (Training, consistency, play time, regular care, etc) And there's also an understanding/respect for an adopted stray. A feral dog or cat might never fully be comfortable around people - but people are more likely to have an aloof indoor/outdoor cat than keep a dog like that.


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Even if you find a cat that's for some reason not interested in social bonding whatsoever, having an animal in a domestic setting requires effort and care. In terms of basic maintenance, my bearded dragon requires as much or more care than even my black lab--its social needs are far toward the bottom of the spectrum, but if you're not willing to put in the time, it will likewise suffer. Animals are a commitment across the board, and someone who can't hang with a puppy following them around would be much better off with any kind of hobby that doesn't involve living things. (I'm clearly a little triggered by the original post)


stardustandsunshine

They're also independent in the sense that you can leave them alone for longer periods of time if you prepare for their needs and keep them stimulated. After our dogs passed away of old age, I didn't really want another pet but my sister was lonely. She now has a job that keeps her out of the house for 24 hours at a time, twice a week, and then she's home for 4 days in a row. You can't just leave a dog alone for that long unless you want to wade through piles of poo or pay a dog walker--not an ideal solution during a pandemic and we're on a budget anyway--but she got 2 cats and it's worked out well. They stay upstairs because it turns out I'm allergic to them, but my sister's bedroom is the size of a spacious studio apartment, flanked on 3 sides by walls of windows, so they have plenty of space. She has 3 litter boxes, an automatic feeder, and one of those watering bowls that holds a couple days' worth of water in a little tank on the back. She has a giant cat tower, a smaller cat tower, a scratching post, 2 of those padded cat benches that attach to the windows, plush pet beds for each of them, and a variety of toys (some with treats that they have to get out of the toy) that she hides all over her room for them to find while she's gone. She keeps some of their toys put away in the closet and swaps them out frequently so they've always got something new to discover. None of this takes a lot of time or money and in that respect, cats are more low-maintenance, but it does require planning ahead, and they make up for the long hours apart by spending lots of time together when she's home, so low maintenance doesn't mean no maintenance. I heard her scream recently and it turned out she was in the middle of an important video game battle when one of the cats decided it needed attention and head-butted her hand while her finger was on the joystick and knocked her character off a cliff to his death. But they were also very attentive when she was home sick with Covid, so they're sweet little assholes. As long as they have food, water, a clean litter box, and plenty of stimulating entertainment, plus a fairly regular schedule, they seem to do fine. They're not showing any signs of stress or boredom and they're not destructive (although she does keep the breakables out of reach and doesn't leave anything plugged in when she's gone, and the only thing they could knock over on top of themselves--the TV--she has on a rolling cart with all of her other electronic stuff so she can move it between the bed area and the sitting area, and she just rolls it into the closet whenever she's not using it). They don't seem to get lonely because there are 2 of them--female litter mates--and they're spayed, which makes them calmer. There's a tree outside their window, we have an active squirrel population and live on a street with quite a bit of foot traffic and car traffic--not to mention we're across the street from a popular Pokémon Go gathering spot--so there's always something for them to look at. I don't think it would be as ideal if they were cooped up in a tiny windowless apartment for that long, but I do think the deciding factor here isn't where they live, it's having a responsive, educated pet owner who's willing to create an environment that meets their needs. If you're not willing to do that, if you just want an animal that requires no maintenance or interaction at all, it doesn't matter if you live in Cat Nirvana, you should not get a cat.


DrNopeMD

Worth pointing out that all cats are different and have their own personalities. My cats have never been jerks or tried to interrupt me by getting in the way of what I'm doing. They'll politely sit next to me and wait for me to stop what I'm doing to give them affection. They know they're adorable enough for me to immediately put things down and give them some pets.


astrologicalfailure9

Adult humans get lonely too when no one talks to them. I got cats semi recently and it's not near as hands off as I was led to believe


maymays01

This is going to sound sad as hell but during quarantine I've found a combination of Zoom conference calls for work, online chatting (like Reddit), and watching streamers on Twitch even as background noise helps a ton. I've always been more of an introvert, but I used to see people every day pre-COVID. Now I can literally go weeks unless we're counting the curbside delivery person who I wave at through the car window after they put groceries in my trunk.


KnowsIittle

Extroverts have had a much harder time coping with isolation. As an introvert I was already well accustomed to socializing online and have actually enjoyed the current isolation policies that limit in person greetings.


maymays01

I am hoping like hell I get to WFH forever. :p


MonkeySpanker187

I've probably used discord voice chat more in the past 8 months than I ever have since making my account


7_Cerberus_7

Not sad at all. I mean, its looked down upon by society as lesser than, the sort of distant socializing you're describing, but that is completely normal to a lot of people, pre pandemic as well. Society just has us all on a string that leads us to believe you have to have 10+ real life associates you mingle with daily, a Facebook tab of 200+1000 associates, a twitter feed, and constant family gatherings to have an established, "normal", social life. That's too much work for some, and unnecessary for many.


jendoylex

I've had cats most of my life. They talk to/at you, they have needs, wants, preferences, and personalities. Sadly, my last one passed in February, and after having shepherded 4 cats from kittenhood through aging, illness, and death, I don't think I can do it again. I have no regrets - each of them was special in their own way - but it's hard to lose a companion.


ktkatq

My cat is up in my grill *constantly*. Sure, he sleeps 18+ hours a day, but he wants cuddle time and attention. I think he’d pine away if he didn’t get love and pets.


clubby37

This is why I went with a cat over a dog: the sleep schedule. I leave for work in the morning, he goes to sleep. 10 hours later, I get home, and he's still out. I go to wake him up, and from his perspective, I'd only been gone moments. Guilt over leaving him alone and bored for that long: zero.


fordprecept

And not all cats are aloof assholes. My cat is very clingy. She follows me around the house much of the time and sleeps in the bed with me at night. My parents' cat, on the other hand, pretty much ignores everyone unless it is dinner time. He will come sit on the couch and snuggle up next to my parents in the evening, though.


princessblowhole

The idea that cats are independent is so strange to me. I have 3, and if they want attention, they are up in my shit. Yes, they mostly keep to themselves, but they also don’t hesitate to stick their buttholes in my face if they need pets or food. And they also need to be interacted with based on their personalities. One is a kitten, so plays with everything. One is anti-social, but will play fetch with hair ties. And the last one, my sweetest little princess, has no time for toys but loves being chased around the house.


FizzTrickPony

Cats always have a way of telling you it's time for affection. Mine will hop up while I'm laying bed and just shove her face into my face


JeanpaulRegent

My cat literally wakes me up at 5am every morning for 10 minutes of pets before he flops against me and passes out. People that think Cats don't want attention are stupid.


KnowsIittle

Our failure to communicate and understand that animal's needs is not that animal's failure, that's squarely on us. I wish more people understood that. My housemate has several cats, too many for each to get individual attention. It's heartbreaking to hear the 17 year old beg for attention only to be ignored for the shiniest new toy. And then be called annoying or "she has dementia". She puts her energy into the special care animals and the tank is dry when it comes to the rest of them.


Decidedly-Undecided

I’ve had cats my whole life. Right now I actually have 5. They are all incredibly different and require different levels of attention. One is constantly all up in my business and helps me do literally everything (even showers, she sit on the edge of the tub and bats at me), and another that runs away if you *look* at her too hard. Sometimes I’m surround by cats, other times I have none (which is rare, but it does happen). Plus... one of mine is a high energy cat. These cats need a *TON* of play time and attention. We have to tire him out the same way you would a dog. He actually plays fetch a little bit too. He gets bored of toys after about a day. So all those super cool (and expensive) interactive toys don’t help. If we don’t keep him entertained then he gets bored and picks fights... so I mean... sure, we don’t have to walk Turtle, but we have to play with him until he’s tired all the time.


ZippyTurtle

I used to do adoption counsels for cats and dogs. People always underestimate how much work cats are. I go over the first 24 hours and the amount of scratching textures they need plus climbing furniture etc and they just go "yeah, yeah" and keep petting the cat. "Any questions?" "No I got it." "Cool, what cat equipment do you have ready?" "I got a litter box and a cardboard scratcher, she's going to love it." Sigh...


Solkre

My cat is metaphorically up my ass the second I open my bedroom door in the morning. Not all of them are super independent.


sendmeyourpez

your cat lets you close your door?!?!


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Lmao right?! That would NOT fly in my home.


juliaaguliaaa

My cat has learned how to OPEN DOORS so closed doors, even locked ones, have been replaced by yelling.


SpoonResistance

Your cat lets you make choices!?


Solkre

Yes. She'll sleep on her cat tower in the living room until morning. Then wait for me to get up and open the door. Then she runs in an meows like she's dying. Tried to let her sleep on the bed with me, she doesn't sit still.


Issvera

Yes, not all cats are standoffish and independent, they can have very different personalities! My current 2 cats are polar opposites. One is pretty stereotypical, keeps to himself unless he’s hungry and sleeps most of the day on something not meant to be a bed (my SO’s backpack). The other is soooo needy, always wants to sit on my lap for snuggles and attention! He sleeps most of the day too, but he sleeps where I sit, follows me if I move to another room, then goes back to sleep. I can’t imagine him with an owner that didn’t shower him with love, he would be so lonely and sad :(


moonunit99

We basically have the same cats! Except my standoffish one loooves sleeping on/in my suitcase and will jump into my lap for chin scritches if no one else is around.


Issvera

My standoffish one does enjoy chin scritches and he’s especially a slut for belly rubs when he’s half asleep, but it’s obvious that he just enjoys how good it feels. He’s using us. There is no love in those eyes.


HatchSmelter

I have 3 and all are social and interested in being where I am, with 1 of them needy like you describe. He's a sweetheart, but dumb as a brick. He's my buddy though and I can't imagine a monster like the guy already sick of his puppy trying to take care of him.. It would not go well for either.


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There’s a colony of semi-feral cats that live in my garage. They’re more semi-feral in the way that they’re extremely independent, but they’re still extremely affectionate, except a couple I guess. If I go sit in my yard like 5 minutes later at least 3-4 cats will be up on me. I’ve been sitting in my living room and heard like a commotion on the street and looked out the window, and some random people were just taking a walk by my house and got swarmed by 5 cats that were rubbing on their legs and shit and they were laughing and petting them.


mata_dan

I'm afraid of getting a cat and then it doesn't want cuddles lol. Also er, kinda have to commit to spending hundreds of thousands on a property first and lock myself down into one place for the long term, and that's a big risk just to keep a pet that might not like me :o


Issvera

It’s always a risk. I like adopting from places that have a play room available for you to hang out with the cats and get to know them a little first. But even then you never know. When we 1st adopted our boys they were completely different. Both were recovering from ringworm and still a little sick. The standoffish one was a little more sick than the other and very clingy and needy, while my now affectionate boy was extremely shy. He’s still a bit shy with strangers, so it’s funny that when we have guests they all comment on how social the standoffish one is, but he just likes rubbing himself on unfamiliar smells.


kupo_kupo_wark

As I write this, I have one cat purring under my foot, one by my arm, and another being a jerk trying to tip over my coffee. I have accidentally let my house cats out and they sat by the front door crying to come back in. "Independent" my foot, cats are just as social and sweet as dogs if you raise them that way.


Possible_Parrot

My mom (who I no longer talk to for various reasons) is awful about animals. She used to piss me off SO BAD with her habits. She likes to find free puppys in the paper or online. She's to damn lazy to take them out half the time so she gets puppy pads. She then gets pissed when they don't use the pad, which she puts in no effort to train them to use. She would also put them in a cage when she got tired of it needing attention, only getting them out when she was in the mood to mess with it. She would always end up taking it to a pound or giving it away after a few weeks or months. I got into so many fights with her about this but she never changed. Moral of the story- if you're going to give a puppy away for free, please, PLEASE make sure that person is capable of taking care of it. There's so many people like this that its truly sad. Some people will even let them die.


Mentine_

(just saying a golden fish take time too (and money, and space) you know, you aren't supposed to put them in a VERY small jar and do nothing except feed them) Not a native speaker


mary_widdow

You did great ! I prefer golden fish to goldfish any day


blargnblah

Yep. A lot of cats are clingy too. Mine follows me everywhere all day every day, and immediately gets in my lap as soon as I sit down anywhere. Sometimes it's a little annoying, but I know that's just how he is and so I let him be his needy, clingy self because I love him and accept him for who he is. That's how pet companionship works. You accept and love them for who they are.


gingasaurusrexx

Mine is the same way. The other day, he was cuddling in my lap when I needed to go to the bathroom. I gently moved him, told him I'd be right back, and to stay put. He followed me to the bathroom and yelled the whole time. Followed me right back to where we were sitting, still yelling, until I sat back down, replaced my lap blanket, and he snuggled back in. Just bitching about lack of snuggles. I don't understand people who say cats are aloof.


AlexSpaghetti

My sister brought a cat home last summer. Guess who takes care of it? Yeah my mom does.


SoManyEffinQuestions

My cat tore up our bathroom door because I wouldn’t let him in there with me (the one time I did he kept trying to jump into the toilet while I was peeing). All animals need love and attention apart from pet rocks.


thesefloralbones

Absolutely. My family recently took in a feral/stray cat, literally snatched him from a parking lot ourselves (after looking extensively for any possible owners) and we expected him to be very off on his own and wary of people due to being feral. Nope! He's obsessed with my mom, screams if you don't pet him, mashes his face against people for pets, and will stand on his back legs to get his head rubbed. He wants so much love. (And he gets all of it, of course.) He would be absolutely miserable if we lost interest in him.


maymays01

Yes, and some cats are incredibly clingy too. They don't need to be walked - that part is so much easier than dogs - but they still want love and attention. Mine is 'hugging' my arm asleep next to me as I type this right now.


[deleted]

This just makes me so damn sad


[deleted]

Seriously. When my dog was little she never left my side and it was the cutest thing. If I was cleaning and moved 5 feet from the kitchen to the living room she’d still get up from where she was sitting and move the 5 feet with me. I love my little shadow.


hadehariax

My pup just hit 9 months and he does this. If my partner and I are doing things in different rooms, the dog will find a halfway point where he can sit in the middle of us. Love my little mate.


Illusive_Man

My pup at 9 months does not follow me. He’s more interested in my other dogs than me most of the time. He does get really cuddly when he’s tired though.


[deleted]

Yeah that's cuz you've multiple dogs. He has ample company. Incase that you only have one pet, they tend to be very affectionate towards you. (Op must have seen it when you got your first pup?)


Cyber_Cheese

This is exactly why i don't recommend only having one dog (if avoidable). If you get two, they can keep each other company at a minimum


HatchSmelter

I have a 10 year old cat that is STILL like this. It's adorable and I love him, though working from home has been trying at times, lol


always_tired_hsp

Awww same with one of my cats! He loves cuddles and will miaow to announce his presence under my desk which is a sign I must snuggle with him 😊


ktkatq

Aye, our fifteen (probably) year-old fat grey boy cat sits at my feet whilst I teach. He hates being picked up, but sometimes I can’t resist, and it melts my heart a bit because I know he’s only tolerating it out of love for me.


HatchSmelter

I also have a fat grey old guy that hates being picked up! His little eyes bug out and it's adorable. Also, he's finally getting less fat! He lost like 5 pounds this year! Pandemic has been good for the cats, lol.


[deleted]

Yeah, the WFH situation is a mixed blessing- I get to walk her and play during lunch which is awesome, but she sometimes gets into a “why are you home but not playing with me?” mood, which is especially challenging when I’m on calls!


Muthafuckaaaaa

*sad puppy noises* Me too - puppy


Kantotheotter

One of my dogs is a trip hazzard shadow. The other is like a really chill roommate who just wants to keep an eye on you if you are in his space.


ReverendDizzle

My dog is one of the trip hazard dogs. He's jet black and *always* exactly 45 degrees off my right shoulder. As far as he's concerned he exists to protect my right flank at all times and to not be in his appointed position would be a fate worse than death. He even sleeps in that position behind my office chair when I'm working.


branzalia

I moved in with someone who had a very clingy dog. She followed us *everywhere*. To make matters even more extreme, we lived in a glass house where three walls were 100% glass. She would follow us from side to side when we were on opposite sides of the glass because she could see our every movement. It can get annoying at a certain point. I understand that dogs are social animals and she certainly got a lot of attention during the day (multiple walks, playing in yard, and sitting nearby when reading a book) but the dog was always underfoot and this went beyond a what a typical dog did. Previously, I had a dog that loved you to death for a few minutes and was ok spending hours lying away from us, quite different. I'll give the owner some slack and maybe the vet can describe some strategies to benefit both puppy and owner rather than a snarky reply. FWIW, when I mentioned this to a co-worker he said this was typical of a Weimaranner as he had several of them. Don't jump on me for being naive about their nature, I didn't choose the breed.


randalgetsdrunk

Thanks, I was going to say the same thing. I have a Lab like this. I love him to death but it can be a lot sometimes. I am a big dog person but not so much on the constant physical affection. We just have some guidelines around spaces that he is allowed in, where he can get pets and then “my” space (e.g. not in the kitchen, only in the bedroom to sleep). It’s a happy middle ground.


Otherwise-Neat-5405

I wonder if my dog feels this way about me. She likes attention in the morning and then she uses me the rest of the day. Sometimes I go over to pet her and she gets up and walks away. Haha.


usertiff

How is this r/MurderedByWords?


[deleted]

As someone who owns a personal fluffy shadow monster I can confirm. (I never wanted a dog [or any pet], but it came bundled with the wife.)


MappleSyrup13

"Fluffy...monster"... these are words of love, aren't they? I guess you ended up falling in love


PaisleyLeopard

Haha my husband is in the same boat. I told him before we got married, I come with dogs. Non negotiable. Bless you for putting up with us crazies.


scarletuba

I put it in my dating profile that dogs are non-negotiable ... And that I have a very mean parrot. I told a guy I went on two dates with that my parrot had bitten my housemate's neck and his response was to order a falconer's glove and gorgette. First time he came to my house he entered and sat on the floor, ignoring me completely until my elderly dog had had plenty of opportunity to sniff and get pets. Of course I married him.


DeidreMengedoht

This is so sweet


Kantotheotter

I call my big dog "the horse monster" she's giant, fluffy, 100% in your business


FabulousTrade

Love the wife, love the pet. There is no compromise.


x17011995

This is so frustrating to read. Especially with the number of lockdown puppies now causing issues for owners who didn’t do their research.


rblu42

Lockdown puppy? Like a puppy you get so that you're not bored in quarantine? That's almost as bad of an idea as "let's have more kids to fix our broken relationship"


Some_Intention

I planned for my pup for a year before quarantine. Got him in December. He is a breed that requires much socialization at a young age. He had one puppy class and then quarantine. It completely fucked his socialization. Luckily I'm not much of a public person anyway but I have a feeling shelters are going to be filled with all these quarantine dogs when people start returning to life and their dogs are terribly under socialized and have separation anxiety.


i_am_not_sam

I got a puppy during lockdown because I knew I'd be able to give him all the time and attention he needed at this stage of his life...


rblu42

That's a good reason to get a dog! I wasnt trying to judge anyone who got a pet during quarantine. Just those who figured a pet would be a fun thing to have while in quarantine and now it's too much work.


redditmodssuckassss

Too many people think puppies are hobbies.


MinaFur

Too many people think pets are entertainment and toys. They are not, they are complex living beings with as many needs as we have.


Ball_Of_Meat

Especially puppies, I have had lots of friend who think it’s weird how much time my puppy needs.


JerriBlankStare

Some people take hobbies very seriously. I think perhaps you meant to say something like, "Too many people think puppies are low maintenance, short term amusements that they can forget once the novelty and/or cute phase wears out."


IsMyAxeAnInstrument

Yeah I'm very confused by what they meant seeing as hobbies are something people tend to enjoy doing.


Rab_Legend

Not sure how this is murder by words.


Haddle

This is barely even a slap let alone a murder.


[deleted]

It is not remotely by any stretch of the imagination a murder. It’s literally just someone offering sound advice in a calm manner.


Guardiancomplex

It should be harder to get a dog. People like this are often the fucking scum who leave dogs on the sides of highways once they grow out of the cute puppy phase.


barnosaur

I adopted a dog this week from a shelter after years of dreaming. We fell in love with our dog after meeting him and I asked them what the next step was, thinking there’d be some further application. But they said no you can take him now and it almost felt illegal


long_distance_life

I had that feeling as well. We put in an application, got a call two days later to come meet one of the dogs we expressed interest in. When we got there turns out that dog had been adopted earlier that day so we met my goofy girl Lydia instead. She ran into the adoption room and immediately jumped up to give me a hug. Of course we fell in love and ended up bringing her home that day. While we were at the shelter though they told us about how she had been adopted before and reclaimed by the shelter due to extreme abuse and neglect. Just proves to me that it should be harder to a get a dog. Can't imagine anyone ever wanting to hurt this goofy little cuddle bug. Humans don't deserve dogs.


[deleted]

This was not my experience at all. I looked through multiple agencies to adopt and it is pretty damn difficult. The ones I got through the application process alone required talking to multiple people to see if I am capable and if I have a suitable home. I had to provide references, which were called and interviewed, sent pictures of my house and yard. Even after getting through I had to speak to the people that were fostering and see if the dog was a good fit for me. I got turned down a lot, it took me months to actually get my dog. Same with everyone around me that has been trying to adopt as well.


yellernaner

trying to adopt dogs out of foster homes from RESCUES is a lot harder than adopting dogs from SHELTERS. when my mom adopted her rat terrier mix from the shelter they wouldn't even let her hold or play with the dog, it was a complete take it or leave it scenario and honestly kind of grosses me out. a lot of rescues vet you and make sure you'll be a reliable owner and ask you what your daily life is like, how tall your fences are, why you want a dog, etc.. it's nice that rescues do that but sometimes it's as if they don't want to adopt out their dogs at all they're such hard asses.


[deleted]

Yes this is exactly it. I legit had an hour long conversation with the rescue rep, after the 2 page application I filled out, they even talked to my brother and asked him if he would take care of my dog if I died.


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theawesomefactory

Not always. It definitely depends on the area.


StiffDock685

The problem is shelters already have a tough time getting people to adopt enough animals so that they arent full. As much as I agree with this sentiment, it's just not something they're able to do.


MrWilsonWalluby

The thing is no one wants to admit the reality of it all. We have too many dogs alive and not enough suitable owners. The Us needs to be a lot more strict on breeding and impose penalties for unlicensed litters. That way the money you save on raising puppies at shelters every year can be reinvested in training and veterinary services for adopters. Giving the dog a much better chance at a successful home. There is simply not enough training done with shelter dogs. Shelters should 100% be required to have a full time professional trainer on payroll to give these dogs a fighting chance.


MinaFur

It should also be harder to get a cat or rabbit or ferret or fish or bird- even snek and lizards- once you bring a living being into your home, while you may get joy or entertainment out of that relationship, it’s the human’s absolute responsibility to provide not just shelter and food, but companionship, activities, a proper environment, a social sphere, and love. This little being has given up a natural life to live- often- in a tiny tiny space, that life need to be cared for even better than our own.


ChemicalGovernment

Yes it fucking should.. can we fight for this now? These people should be on a "special" registry.


sgthulkarox

Now hold on, won't you think of the puppy mills? How will someone with no skills or talent make a living without peddling dog flesh? (As someone who had two recovered puppy mill dogs, FUCK ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WHO TREAT DOGS LIKE VENDING MACHINES, and ALL THE PEOPLE AND PET STORES THAT BUY THE PUPPIES. And Legislators that take money from these assholes.)


[deleted]

This is exactly why I don’t like and will never have a dog, fortunately I know my personality clashes with K9s and wouldn’t ever “try one out” some people seem to dramatically lack self awareness, just sad really, poor little critter.


Miannb

So obviously a dog will follow you from time to time, but allowing your dog to follow you everywhere just points to an irresponsible owner. Sadly most dog owners don't know the first thing about dog training or raising. You are risking raising a clingy dog. Not because that's bad for the owner. But because it risks the dog having no self confidence or independence. When going for a walk the dog may never go exploring for fun to smell new smells. Will it be confident around strangers or dogs you allow into the home? When you go to work. Will it's life crumble and basically feel like 8 hours of torture? Sure those things might not happen and your dog might have overcame your horrible training through its own self will. But wow did you set it up for failure if you do not regularly practice seperation training even while home. Seperation training is important. The dog should not be encouraged to shadow you everywhere. Maybe in the end with proper training it still has some seperation issues and that's its personally. You got the dog so you should adjust your life as needed. Too many people buy dogs to be their personal stuffed animals and want them all the time when at home. Horrible dog parents.


Rev_Up_Those_Reposts

This is especially important to point out during the pandemic. Many people have gotten puppies and kittens to help deal with isolation, and many of those pets are developing seperation anxiety because their owners never leave them alone.


Miannb

An easy way to help this is to now allow the dogs to sleep in your room. They should sleep in another room or if you have multi levels downstairs. Not only does this allow healthy dog parent alone time but works for the dogs. One of our dogs we had to crate train in the basement cause he has severe seperation issues when we rescued him. Waited 4 months for him to adjust to the house before starting. Then took 2 months of sleeping on the floor outside his crate. Each night moving farther away then closing the door more each night. Then making noises of going upstairs. Butstill being there to tell him quiet when he whined a bit later. Was a lot of bad sleeps. Eventually he was able to sleep downstairs with the other dogs. Still has issues when we leave him home but he now explores a lot more when outside than he ever did before. Dog training can be hard work.


scorodites

I feel like this a good point many don’t bring up. Look it’s great that every dog person seems to love the fact that they have a permanent shadow and such, but a lot of people don’t operate that way. And that’s okay. And sometimes you don’t realize how annoying this can be until you actually have it happen to you. And separation is such a good thing. Your point reminds me other bad habits that dog owners perpetuate, like dogs that jump on people and dogs begging and stealing food. It’s great that you love when your dog jumps on you but not everyone does. It’s great that you’re fine with your dog staring intensely at you while you eat, or that you’ve learned how to strategically place your food so the dog doesn’t steal it. But your guest probably don’t appreciate it.


N1cK01

I despise people that get a pet solely for the purpose of telling others they have a pet


astrologicalfailure9

I didn't think something so vapid was a thing. People suck


RurikTheDamned

A dog is an extension of yourself. If you don't want them sat next to you all the time or feel odd when they're not there then you should get a plant.


Cows-a-Lurking

While I agree, it's also very important to teach puppies to self soothe and be comfortable alone. You don't want them to become so dependent on you that they're distraught when you aren't home. This can lead to separation anxiety later on. I'm actually a little worried about this with how many people have adopted new dogs because they're stuck at home during the pandemic. It's really great you got a dog, but please work on getting it ready for when we eventually get back to office work, going out for gatherings, etc. Practice things like nap times, just like you would for a toddler, and leaving the house for short periods (even if it's just walking around the block without your dog etc).


theetruscans

I got a dog way back in the beginning of the pandemic. This comment is spot on, she doesn't understand how to exist when I'm not around. We've been doing a lot of training and it's helping but it's hard


EnoughNumbersAlready

Exactly! I got a puppy a month ago and my whole schedule revolves around her and her potty training. I nap when she naps; I go outside with her to make sure she does her business; she sits next to the shower when I’m getting ready for work. Pets are family.


Big_PP_Jesus

Hey gaming consoles require lots of attention too, mine always force me to play with them even when I have important stuff to do.


2021ismybitch

The Reddit pile-on here is so dumb and completely disproportionate. I don’t like clingy dogs and specifically researched breeds that were more independent. I had a sweet terrier who liked to do her own thing for hours, didn’t care what I did around the house (unless I went to the kitchen lol) and that really suited me. I dogsat a shih tzu for a while and the way she followed me EVERYWHERE was really unnerving. Reading all of these comments about how it’s the most precious part of being a pet owner makes me question whether I’m a dog lover. I mean, I melt at just about any dog, but the dog I can live with is one that’s not whining because a few minutes separation while I’m in the shower is too much to bear. This owner might be learning the lesson on what breeds they may not be suited for, and there’s no shame in rehoming the dog if it comes to it. Of course, I ended up with a clingier breed (poodle) because my kid would prefer a cuddly dog and is happy to be the source of long cuddles.


GummoStump

Feel free to call yourself a dog lover, and realize that many people are just dog simps.


CharlestonChewbacca

Okay, but some dogs form unhealthy levels of attachment and need to be trained to be at least a little independent. Good advice on how to make sure the dog doesn't develop separation anxiety would've been more helpful than this snide remark.


[deleted]

“Maybe VIDEO GAMES ARE MORE YOUR SPEED BRANDON!!!” haha totally owned him good with a murder! *dabs*. #yeet


ZarqonsBeard

When I first got my puppy I felt this too. I dont want to belittle post-partum depression, but thats really what it felt like. We don't realize that we as the owner also need some time to bond with our puppy, and its hard to work out what the wrong feeling is. Hopefully this doesn't get buried so if there's anyone out there that isn't very attached to their new pet, bonding takes time! In 6-9 months you won't be able to imagine living without your pupper.


SirAchmed

Honestly dogs are way too needy. It’d be nice if we could tone down their neediness.


note2selfnobooze

We had a puppy when I was a kid that was just ride or die for a slice of sun that came through the skylight onto the landing in a staircase for most of the time that the sun was up. So you had to be super careful of her, because you couldn't even see her when you were going down the top flight of stairs, or up the bottom set of stairs (two sets of stairs, forming an L shape, she laid at the junction). All she did was hang out there. She'd get super jazzed if you stopped to hangout, otherwise, she'd thump her tail and wish you well on your journeys. When she got older she'd leave if called, but she'd head right back to her sunbeam once she was done indulging people and their nonsense. I really wish we had called her sunny but it was my brothers turn to name a pet and he picked coco even though she was black, not brown. Still kinda low key annoyed about that like 40 years later


doctorcrimson

Unfortunately there are millions of people just like this. Every year during the holiday season, shelters are overwhelmed with a massive spike in abandoned animals, namely puppies and kittens. Always try adopting a dog, first. If it doesn't work out theres no loss.