Exactly every second matters in a 2k grind can’t be wasting all those precious seconds watching the 2k logo fly across the screen with graphics nah get me straight back in the game I don’t even wanna see barely a second of these dang cutscenes
I’ve noticed that timeouts called during free throws takes so long to get started again all the players and refs slowly walk back to set up for the free throw
Crazy thing is that I noticed you can't skip it till 5 seconds goes by in my career. In other game modes however, you can skip it pretty much immediately.
But it’s only in mycareer for some reason, if you’re playing MyNBA you can skip timeouts almost immediately as well as all the pre-game and halftime show stuff
Simply due to 80% of the community only playing my career, I thought MyTeam was the same way but haven't played 2k since 21. No one wants to pay premium value which im sure 2k hits em with the 20% of our players play other game modes, but you could have a chance to reach the other 80% bleh bleh bleh. I'm sure no one has even thought about ads in 2k other then MyCareer.
I hate how much 2k waste your time in games. After winning a game or losing we dont need a fucking cutscene that takes 60+ seconds breaking down your gameplay. They can explain all of that OUTSIDE of a cutscene or using a game history tab. Instead i have to wait 60 seconds everytime a park game ends cause im on shitty PC and thats all we got. Rec is dead so im stuck with games up to 21 and 60 second intermissions between them
real. i hate losing games in park, not cos i’m losing, but cos i have to sit through that game breakdown screen that lasts longer than the game to 21 itself.
i don’t really play park ever, but that was honestly a huge deterrent and just lack of courts. that sounds dumb but i mean like immediately open courts for you to play. a lot of park to me whenever i played was a lot of waiting then a lot of 2k BS and lag whenever i did play lol nothing like real basketball. if all the 2s are filled in one area by sweats that are on 20 game streaks i dont want to go all over the city to find a court, they should just do lobbies or something quick that you load into not queue and wait until one game ends so all those animations can end then startup game animations take forever and so on and so forth. ik it was bad when on next gen you only had to wait 3 seconds to close a timeout and last gen was a lot longer, i forget exact numbers but just that principle to me was insane how they can literally force us to wait. just like how every time i load up 23 i am forced to closed back to back ads to buy 24 EVERY SINGLE TIME I PLAY 23. they’re just blatantly money hungry and it won’t stop bc they have been feeding for so long
Do this all the time too. Idk if it’s still a problem with 2k24 but 2k23 used to bug out after doing live sim. Cant look at any replays in the score summary
They have to milk us with Gatorade, Kia ads and stuff like that.
I can't play a fucking career game if I have 30 minutes to spare. And that's how they push people to buy VCs because everyone gets impatient with those dynamics.
It's 2024. The halftime show should incorporate generative AI and offer meaningful commentary on your game, the season, and your career.
At this point, I feel like we could crowdfund a better game than 2K.
Sorry bro , but it seems you play on pc atleast you got mods, but my suggestion would be to save up for a used series S or something and get 2k off gamepass playing last generations 2k is rough
I can't stand this game anymore (for years already). So many boring and ugly cutscenes you can't really skip, loading screens, pointless trips in the awful city... This game is such a waste of time. And all that takes 180GB... for a basketball game.
Which 2K seems to not care about tbh. As long as they have their loyal users then they can keep hiking up VC to make up for the loss of sales. Sad state for the game really. I just want to play some basketball from time to time.
I’m convinced 2K leaves all this fluffy “immersion” shit in like timeouts, dance performances, basically anything that triggers a cutscene to waste our time. I’m certain I could easily save over 5 mins each game if the cutscene skips actually happened instantly rather then triggering other animations that still take up time. Furthermore, the opposing coach only ever calls timeouts whenever you’re on the court.
They’ll do anything to make earning VC as frustrating as possible.
if you venture to madden sub they are always like "we need more halftime shows" and when you mention that 95% of the time you'd skip them they down vote you lol
I don’t have to hold it. I just spam it. Seems like there’s 3-4 different “scenes” that you have to skip thru during halftime tho. Really a pain. That and the timeouts that I can’t skip the first 5 seconds of is really annoying
It’s the “A” button on Xbox for me, which is annoying, esp with free throws as it makes me switch players while I’m mashing to get through the free throw animations.
Uh, maybe its cause Im on PS4 or somethimg, but Im 99% sure I have a vivid memory of Ernie getting cut off midway through his first few sentences of each segment as I skip through the halftime show every game..
Oh yeah I remember doing something else during halftime and caught them talking about the player trying to skip scenes that the "2k team worked so hard to present" I be trynna skip a lot but hearing that during the half was kinda funny.
Fuck it though, sometimes I wanna skip
Man do yall read the shit yall saying in these comments. A game is supposed to be about the fun the experience...... and yet we the people playing the game can/don't want to have the proper fun and experience because of the grind that 2k has become. And tbh it ain't a fun grind by what everybody here saying..... yet folks keep buying this game every single year. Seriously read through some of these comments dawg.... Sound like mfs talking about. Second job where they trying to get paid rather than a game where they just trying to enjoy the experience and have fun.
You can skip them, just have to wait a couple seconds, takes even longer to skip the Chinese unicycle bowl lady.
Although it doesn't compare to that f-ing fan that hucks the ball halfway up the court in triple threat.
I can accept the weird glitch where you clip to each other and semi moonwalk up the court, I can even accept buggy animations which lead to someone dribbling directly through another player (and I mean the ball going through their entire body not a bulldozer animation or anything), but please can 2K stop wasting our time with BS cutscenes. Yeah it's interesting and immersive once or twice, but it gets real old, real quick. I bought a basketball game to play basketball FFS.
They honestly should have an opt in/out option for it. There are most people who want the cutscenes because they complain the game is dull without it. But there is this group who just wants to play the game.
What's hilarious is they even have a halftime segment where Shaq and them break the fourth wall to talk abt people who skip past everything and "don't appreciate the hard work the developers put into the game."
Cutscenes and a whole city make it feel like I’m not even playing basketball half the time. I don’t get why we can’t choose a mode to spawn into. If I start 2k, I want to be able to spawn straight into the rec center. No main menu, no subway entrance, and no slow ass running. All that extra shit is so unnecessary. I don’t understand who asked for all this rpg garbage and these long ass cutscenes. The city is one of the top 3 worse things ever made by 2k. Bring back the neighborhood or better yet, just let me do stuff through a menu rather than having to literally commute to what I want to do.
Wtf man y'all crying over this but as soon they will remove it y'all gonna try to bring it back to make the game more realistic just be happy to have that much of small detail😒 us on NHL we got nothing.
I feel like they did so much stuff to make this game as unenjoyable as they could. The only way to have fun in this game is buying vc for your mp. Play now online is so stale, nothing but back door screens since you have to be able to green every players jump shots if you wanna shoot.
Idk what version I have but there’s no cut scenes 😂 no MP .. NO halftime show , BARELY relevant tweets , the monthly and weekly rewards are 3 months behind at all times & lastly the game crashes when you choose alternate jerseys sometimes … I’m playing on p4 Kobe edition 🤷♂️ 👀
So you don’t want a game that actually looks like a real NBA broadcast and just want a dull lifeless experience devoid of any personality or substance?
the halftime show looks absolutely nothing like a real NBA broadcast though, and it is a dull lifeless experience devoid of any personality or substance. I wish they at least did a good job with it, it's completely half assed and terrible, it's not interesting.
Is the corporate advertising not just soulless. The entire game is a soulless money grab lol paying full price for a gatcha mobile game is insane behavior
Did the all star game thinking it might be different. Why would it be different? Same fucking shit. That or bikes. Just let me skip it immediately why the fuck is it not just in the important games at most
Stop trying to skip every fucking thing that’s exactly why story modes suck no details whacky cutscenes I’m sorry but I want a little more than just gameplay all this mf money we spend on this shit.
are you dumb. ion mean to be rude but he asked for the option. every single game you play has a half time show. regardless ion even agree with op cause i counted it it’s literally like 30 seconds in total every time
This is the worst modern release in video game history the blatant charge rape and ad spam is ridiculous. Deleted so quick. Game is for virgins that yell at their mom
I'm saying, there's no way 2k doesn't make enough money to fund a 24/7 actual show with content and hosts to discuss real 2k ish and whatnot.
That would preferable to the same scene over and over.
True. But they aren't using it during halftime, which I think was the point. Halftime being unskippable. I simply was suggesting what more 2k can do. I appreciate your opinion.
Oh yeah now I know what you mean It is a bit generic the halftime show on 2K but like another poster said I just use that to go to the toilet quickly have a bit of a stretch grab a drink and come back for the next quarter
It used to be skippable in earlier 2k’s, now the animation is ridiculously long. Same with the coaches challenge cutscenes
You can skip them I do it all the time
Yeah, so do I. I’m confused, can people not skip them?
The first few seconds of most of the cutscenes are unskippable
Exactly every second matters in a 2k grind can’t be wasting all those precious seconds watching the 2k logo fly across the screen with graphics nah get me straight back in the game I don’t even wanna see barely a second of these dang cutscenes
The same Chinese lady doing her bowl/unicycle trick is getting a lil old too
She’s called Red Panda and she’s a real life nba performer ! 😂
How do we do coach challenges
timeout button, it’ll give you a choice for a challenge or a timeout, but only half the time and for out of bounds/ foul calls
I need that cause ik for a fact 2k been calling hella bs calls on my SF when it should be blocks
Hold the select button.
I’ve noticed that timeouts called during free throws takes so long to get started again all the players and refs slowly walk back to set up for the free throw
Just like real life, last 5 minutes of a close game takes 45 minutes
you can skip them, but not before being forced to see 20 seconds of junk.
it’s forced ads, same reason why it takes 5 seconds to skip the GATORADE timeout that you can’t turn off
Now’s their chance to get fueled up with some GATORADE^TM
yet I still have to buy gatorade pre-game 😔
Gatorade should just come with VC codes. If it did, I may actually have enough to max out a single build.
Crazy thing is that I noticed you can't skip it till 5 seconds goes by in my career. In other game modes however, you can skip it pretty much immediately.
Somebody tell Gatorade that bc of 2k I buy Powerade...
What’s the ad here?
I guess 2k itself for now. But place holder for future ads who will be interested in placing themselves there
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In the time out, for sure. I’m asking about half time
But it’s only in mycareer for some reason, if you’re playing MyNBA you can skip timeouts almost immediately as well as all the pre-game and halftime show stuff
Simply due to 80% of the community only playing my career, I thought MyTeam was the same way but haven't played 2k since 21. No one wants to pay premium value which im sure 2k hits em with the 20% of our players play other game modes, but you could have a chance to reach the other 80% bleh bleh bleh. I'm sure no one has even thought about ads in 2k other then MyCareer.
If you change your language setting to something other than English it skips it, and shows a shorter stats screen. It's not much, but it's what I do
You can just turn off commentators and that works too lol
Why have I never seen that lol
This is the way
I hate how much 2k waste your time in games. After winning a game or losing we dont need a fucking cutscene that takes 60+ seconds breaking down your gameplay. They can explain all of that OUTSIDE of a cutscene or using a game history tab. Instead i have to wait 60 seconds everytime a park game ends cause im on shitty PC and thats all we got. Rec is dead so im stuck with games up to 21 and 60 second intermissions between them
real. i hate losing games in park, not cos i’m losing, but cos i have to sit through that game breakdown screen that lasts longer than the game to 21 itself.
i mean i and a lot of myleague players dont mind it since it gives the games at least a little much needed immersion
i don’t really play park ever, but that was honestly a huge deterrent and just lack of courts. that sounds dumb but i mean like immediately open courts for you to play. a lot of park to me whenever i played was a lot of waiting then a lot of 2k BS and lag whenever i did play lol nothing like real basketball. if all the 2s are filled in one area by sweats that are on 20 game streaks i dont want to go all over the city to find a court, they should just do lobbies or something quick that you load into not queue and wait until one game ends so all those animations can end then startup game animations take forever and so on and so forth. ik it was bad when on next gen you only had to wait 3 seconds to close a timeout and last gen was a lot longer, i forget exact numbers but just that principle to me was insane how they can literally force us to wait. just like how every time i load up 23 i am forced to closed back to back ads to buy 24 EVERY SINGLE TIME I PLAY 23. they’re just blatantly money hungry and it won’t stop bc they have been feeding for so long
I prefer this then in Madden when they call you out for skipping.
They call you out for skipping in 2k, I heard it for the first time the other day lol
What do they say lol
I got called out a while back but they said something about comparing the paint mashing to people mashing their a buttons to skip the half time show
Yeah that shit caught me off guard but I thought it was funny
“i prefer having to wait to play the game instead of hearing the announcers make a joke for 5 seconds” do you even hear yourself
My God this would make me want to actually play the game much more. If you could do a 2-3 button skip at halftime, that'd be perfext
You gotta immediately go into live sim right before the buzzer to skip it then jump back in at the start of the 3rd
Do this all the time too. Idk if it’s still a problem with 2k24 but 2k23 used to bug out after doing live sim. Cant look at any replays in the score summary
Hey! They paid a lot of money to use their likeness so you're gonna look at for a few seconds damnit!
I treat it like real life halftime. I usually go pee and then hit a bowl or run a quick match of clash royale 😂
Yo bro in the locker room playing clash lmaoooooo
Nah fr let me know when Ernie and the boys done yapping 😂
lmao
Naw just bring back the Sprite halftime show from 2k9.
get to old ah out of here
If I’m old then you are a child. ![gif](giphy|m7YYGSBBkDM9VUbcte|downsized)
But the thing is , you can skip it bro
Yea you have skip like 6 animations lol ridiculous tho
you can make it go faster.. but you can’t skip
Nah , hold x or a and it will skip
2k is just an entire waste of time made to submit you into its horrible algorithm. 2k is a racket.
Its actually insane the amount if micro transactions and product placement. When i saw they had actual commercials on 2ktv i was done lol
You can skip it, you just have to wait for like 10 seconds.
They have to milk us with Gatorade, Kia ads and stuff like that. I can't play a fucking career game if I have 30 minutes to spare. And that's how they push people to buy VCs because everyone gets impatient with those dynamics.
It's 2024. The halftime show should incorporate generative AI and offer meaningful commentary on your game, the season, and your career. At this point, I feel like we could crowdfund a better game than 2K.
I’m just happy we don’t have an annoying ass rival or “friend” this my career that we have to watch cutscenes with. Enter B fresh from 2k18
OP is referring to not being able to skip, until about 20-30 seconds of the halftime show is played. I agree it’s pretty annoying.
unironically a dub for current gen versions, we can still skip
You can skip it you just have to wait like a second or 2
man why you gotta tear me down like this, I have to play on current gen isn't that torture enough?
Sorry bro , but it seems you play on pc atleast you got mods, but my suggestion would be to save up for a used series S or something and get 2k off gamepass playing last generations 2k is rough
Facts madden let’s you skip that BS on franchise
I can't stand this game anymore (for years already). So many boring and ugly cutscenes you can't really skip, loading screens, pointless trips in the awful city... This game is such a waste of time. And all that takes 180GB... for a basketball game.
At REC games I feel like I spend more time waiting for it to start/end than the play time
It's not just a feeling, it's a fact. Some waiting times are necessary but the devs add a lot of it for pointless stuff.
It’s be design. If you can’t fit another game on your hard drive guess what you’ll play more of!
Yeah, but on the other end, a lot of people don't even download it because of that.
Which 2K seems to not care about tbh. As long as they have their loyal users then they can keep hiking up VC to make up for the loss of sales. Sad state for the game really. I just want to play some basketball from time to time.
Theatre saves a bit of time compared to park.
Fr 2k wants us to eat this up with a spoon and they don’t even have Chuck in the game, the devs clearly don’t watch the NBA or play their own game
Chuck refuses to be in the game
I don’t blame him. It’s a terrible product and the company is shamelessly greedy
I’m convinced 2K leaves all this fluffy “immersion” shit in like timeouts, dance performances, basically anything that triggers a cutscene to waste our time. I’m certain I could easily save over 5 mins each game if the cutscene skips actually happened instantly rather then triggering other animations that still take up time. Furthermore, the opposing coach only ever calls timeouts whenever you’re on the court. They’ll do anything to make earning VC as frustrating as possible.
fr. all those cutscenes are annoying af and i’m not even trying to grind vc.
They focus on online money grabing trash now ![gif](giphy|W5rgeiNHUfq02EoKmP|downsized)
if you venture to madden sub they are always like "we need more halftime shows" and when you mention that 95% of the time you'd skip them they down vote you lol
There’s down vote in madden?
I can skip mine?
You can skip it just mash your buttons lol
lol i skip it all the time...
You can if you hit and hold X as soon as the buzzer rings.
I always skip it
Hey, they aint got it in The W is all im saying
Spam B (Xbox) or O (ps5)
I can only get the (A) button to skip and only after mashing it. Do I need to hold (B) down or something?
I don’t have to hold it. I just spam it. Seems like there’s 3-4 different “scenes” that you have to skip thru during halftime tho. Really a pain. That and the timeouts that I can’t skip the first 5 seconds of is really annoying
It’s the “A” button on Xbox for me, which is annoying, esp with free throws as it makes me switch players while I’m mashing to get through the free throw animations.
Uh, maybe its cause Im on PS4 or somethimg, but Im 99% sure I have a vivid memory of Ernie getting cut off midway through his first few sentences of each segment as I skip through the halftime show every game..
🤑🤑🤑
I always skip it…. I don’t know what you mean
I can skip it
If they add Chuck nobody want to lol
chuck better than kenny lol
Try changing your announcer language to something besides english and there won't be a halftime show
If I could skip that showcase, I’m racking up vc like crazy. Play all star, blow team out by 26 come 3rd quarter ask out. 1600vc in 11 min😂
It’s there for you to grab and snack contemplate on the further a s s whooping your about to attain 🤣🤣
Throw the whole game away nba live needs to come back with a new engine
yeah of course come to rec 😭😂
What do you do ? when they delete all your progress as far as seasons you completed and delete your tattoos and clothes . Rating is the same .
No chuck
Why Barkley not on the halftime show?
Same reason he’s not on any all time sixers or suns rosters wanted to much money
We can’t even skip the quests to play games
Forced ads same reason why we have to wait in line for daily rewards
Am I the only one who can skip these or sumn 💀 must be a old gen thing
As a current gen player, I wish I had a halftime show
This drives me absolutely crazy. I hate that we can skip this.
It’s also annoying in MyCareer when the CPU will call a random timeout, then the users team calls a timeout.
you can skip gotta hold x or a for like 5 secs or smth
2k24 doesn't get enough credit for replacing the jabawockiez and creepy child hip hop dancers with Red Panda.
i forgot about the hip hop dancers lmfao
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Oh yeah I remember doing something else during halftime and caught them talking about the player trying to skip scenes that the "2k team worked so hard to present" I be trynna skip a lot but hearing that during the half was kinda funny. Fuck it though, sometimes I wanna skip
Why would you want to skip the best part of the game?
yes i hate it
I skip it by not playing MyCareer, at least they let it all be skipable like that now
Yea, it’s beyond annoying.
PlayStation keep tapping x Xbox keep tapping a
They want to waste your time as much as possible to incentivize you to buy VC so you don't have to slog through the actual career.
I've always said there should be an arcade mode where all the presentation is cut out. Including the timeouts etc
Bruh why pay to have it if you just skip it then yall say they don’t care to put shit in the game yall weird
Man do yall read the shit yall saying in these comments. A game is supposed to be about the fun the experience...... and yet we the people playing the game can/don't want to have the proper fun and experience because of the grind that 2k has become. And tbh it ain't a fun grind by what everybody here saying..... yet folks keep buying this game every single year. Seriously read through some of these comments dawg.... Sound like mfs talking about. Second job where they trying to get paid rather than a game where they just trying to enjoy the experience and have fun.
They pay too much money for that halftime show fam they gone make sure you see it 😂😂😂😭😭
You can skip them, just have to wait a couple seconds, takes even longer to skip the Chinese unicycle bowl lady. Although it doesn't compare to that f-ing fan that hucks the ball halfway up the court in triple threat. I can accept the weird glitch where you clip to each other and semi moonwalk up the court, I can even accept buggy animations which lead to someone dribbling directly through another player (and I mean the ball going through their entire body not a bulldozer animation or anything), but please can 2K stop wasting our time with BS cutscenes. Yeah it's interesting and immersive once or twice, but it gets real old, real quick. I bought a basketball game to play basketball FFS.
They honestly should have an opt in/out option for it. There are most people who want the cutscenes because they complain the game is dull without it. But there is this group who just wants to play the game.
Oh you mean the halftime bong break
What's hilarious is they even have a halftime segment where Shaq and them break the fourth wall to talk abt people who skip past everything and "don't appreciate the hard work the developers put into the game."
You can turn it off
Yes you can.
Cutscenes and a whole city make it feel like I’m not even playing basketball half the time. I don’t get why we can’t choose a mode to spawn into. If I start 2k, I want to be able to spawn straight into the rec center. No main menu, no subway entrance, and no slow ass running. All that extra shit is so unnecessary. I don’t understand who asked for all this rpg garbage and these long ass cutscenes. The city is one of the top 3 worse things ever made by 2k. Bring back the neighborhood or better yet, just let me do stuff through a menu rather than having to literally commute to what I want to do.
Wtf man y'all crying over this but as soon they will remove it y'all gonna try to bring it back to make the game more realistic just be happy to have that much of small detail😒 us on NHL we got nothing.
I feel like they did so much stuff to make this game as unenjoyable as they could. The only way to have fun in this game is buying vc for your mp. Play now online is so stale, nothing but back door screens since you have to be able to green every players jump shots if you wanna shoot.
You literally can lmao
That's weird I skip them daily
Idk what version I have but there’s no cut scenes 😂 no MP .. NO halftime show , BARELY relevant tweets , the monthly and weekly rewards are 3 months behind at all times & lastly the game crashes when you choose alternate jerseys sometimes … I’m playing on p4 Kobe edition 🤷♂️ 👀
Makes me not want to play mycareer nba games especially with all the stupid key game goals they pull out of their ass
Ehh idm it sometimes gives me time to be on my phone like rn😂
So you don’t want a game that actually looks like a real NBA broadcast and just want a dull lifeless experience devoid of any personality or substance?
the halftime show looks absolutely nothing like a real NBA broadcast though, and it is a dull lifeless experience devoid of any personality or substance. I wish they at least did a good job with it, it's completely half assed and terrible, it's not interesting.
Are you okay?
I’m fine.
Is the corporate advertising not just soulless. The entire game is a soulless money grab lol paying full price for a gatcha mobile game is insane behavior
Play MyNBA, that mode has no microtransactions.
why not give me the option?
The option is there by holding X or something. They aren’t asking you to climb Everest.
watching kenny smith talk is the equivalent of climbing everest
i mute the show irl at half.
My favorite part is they insist on the fucking Asian stilt/ bike bullshit for idk how many years now
The stilt woman is my mortal enemy. I think it'd be fine if not for the music Edit: typo
Oh she catches hell, especially if I’m down at half
Understandable, she gets it from me and my friend regardless of who's winning or losin
😂
Did the all star game thinking it might be different. Why would it be different? Same fucking shit. That or bikes. Just let me skip it immediately why the fuck is it not just in the important games at most
U can skip all this, the hell u talkin about
Fr just press x lol
How ?
not in Mynba
I use the simulation with a few seconds left in the 2nd if I can remember. Saves like 3 minutes.
Must be NextGen, I didn't get a halftime show for PS4 2K24.
That's not that relevant, that game will be discontinued, the next gen is the current 2K.
it’s been 4 years bro.
Can we still call PS5/Xbox next gen ? I mean Sony already has a slim version of the ps5
it’s 2024 and you still don’t know how to skip the halftime show?
you can’t in mynba. you can make it go faster, but can’t skip
Glad I quit 2K
So your new here... got it
i’ve been playing 2k since 2k11
Stop trying to skip every fucking thing that’s exactly why story modes suck no details whacky cutscenes I’m sorry but I want a little more than just gameplay all this mf money we spend on this shit.
but why not give me the option
I mean they do you can skip it once it starts I’m guessing you mean remove it entirely
are you dumb. ion mean to be rude but he asked for the option. every single game you play has a half time show. regardless ion even agree with op cause i counted it it’s literally like 30 seconds in total every time
You want to watch ai Ernie and shaq every fucking game you play?
This is the worst modern release in video game history the blatant charge rape and ad spam is ridiculous. Deleted so quick. Game is for virgins that yell at their mom
I'm saying, there's no way 2k doesn't make enough money to fund a 24/7 actual show with content and hosts to discuss real 2k ish and whatnot. That would preferable to the same scene over and over.
They do it's called 2K TV
True. But they aren't using it during halftime, which I think was the point. Halftime being unskippable. I simply was suggesting what more 2k can do. I appreciate your opinion.
Oh yeah now I know what you mean It is a bit generic the halftime show on 2K but like another poster said I just use that to go to the toilet quickly have a bit of a stretch grab a drink and come back for the next quarter