You just underestimate Stockton and that whole era. That guy is known to have bullied opposing guards and wasn’t afraid to mix it up with anyone.
Also, Kawhi is already out of the game with injury before he’s checked in.
We aren’t talking when. We’re talking who. This list is full of hard playing ballers. Pippen, Bird, Ewing, Malone. They are pushing ppl around in paint or perimeter. I didn’t say everyone was a tough guy. But the game was no question physically tougher and you got away with more. If you don’t agree, you didn’t truly watch that era. I’m saying they are much more rare now and that ‘92 team is full of them
The dream team is a much better team but I think Stockton is the worst possible example to use here.
I watched that era and Stockton was amazing but he didn't have the size to compete with Jrue or Ant.
His size was not a factor to his success and it didn’t hold him back. He is still arguably the best PG ever. And still the all time leader in steals by almost 600 steals. Also the all time leader in assists. Let alone he wasn’t a pushover. I don’t know why ppl say “I watched that era” when you clearly didn’t to make comments about him like that. Jrue will be completely forgotten in 5 years and Ant isn’t a PG.
“Jason Kidd, one of the best playmakers in NBA history, played 19 seasons and came more than 3,700 assists short. Chris Paul, the “Point God,” has played 17 seasons and remains about 5,000 assists short.”
The comment prior to mine directly mentioned Jrue and Ant as players who Stockton would hold back.
Jrue has 3-4 inches and 35 pounds on Stockton. Ant has 4 inches and nearly 60 pounds on Stockton. He isn't holding either of them back.
It's not really relevant that Stockton is better than both of those guys all time what's being discussed is whether he could defend them. He's better than Kwame too but Kwame would destroy Stockton in a 1 on 1.
Chris Paul was significantly more athletic than Stockton in terms of speed, strength, and quickness and even he, despite being one of the greatest PG defenders of all time, struggles against much larger opponents.
I did watch those guys play. That's why it's pretty easy to acknowledge that there are certain 90's players who are at a huge disadvantage here due to matchups (like Stockton) and certain 90's players who also are at a huge advantage (like Robinson and Ewing) for the same reason.
You think Ewing and Robinson are at a disadvantage to Davis and Embiid????
Dude you’re wild. Stockton’s not at a disadvantage either bc of his size. You aren’t the all time steal leader bc you stole the ball from guys your size or smaller.
Ewing was 7’0
Robinson 7’1
Both had elite offensive and defensive skills. Neither are at a disadvantage.
Oh I didn’t pick up that your ref comment was backhanded earlier. The bullying still happens buddy. Just not bad boy pistons Laimbeer/Rodman type of bullying.
Do you hear yourself? A team of LeBron James, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, Jayson Tatum, Anthony Edwards, Anthony Davis, Bam Adebayo, Joel Embiid, Kawhi Leonard, Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Booker, and Jrue Holiday is not good enough to win gold?
Oh what so Wemby and Gobert are gonna come in and beat this team with barely any offense? Or it’s gonna be ho azz Serbia? Or Slovenia? Psh please these teams suck, and the 92 dream team is an old out-dated style of basketball with no perimeter play, just a bunch of guys collapsing into the paint🤣 who are they gonna pass it out to? John Stockton??LOLLL, someone even said this team is weak🤦🏽😭 Embiid would embarrass Ewing, Adebayo would destroy Malone, AD would little boy Barkley. And don’t even get me started on KD and Bird, what is Bird gonna do against 7ft tall offensive demi god KD? Magic on LeBron??! Come on man ‘92 team sucks😆
Dude Malone was a stiff out of date style, post up merchant, backdoor pass receiving Bum, what is he gonna go for on Bam? A post fade??🤣. Adebayo is simply just the new breed of players who are stronger faster and more athletic. Plus everyone stretches the floor on team USA, Imagine all those guys on team USA like ANT, Bron, and Embiid working within the three point line and then being able to pass it out and knowing that everyone on team USA can shoot on some sniper shi from deep. Team USA 24’ is simply more athletic, more skilled, and better equipped to win.
>Dude Malone was a stiff out of date style, post up merchant, backdoor pass receiving Bum, what is he gonna go for on Bam?
You clearly never saw him play. Even at 40 years old he was the fastest big guy down the court on every play. He would sprint after every shot and beat his man to the spot on the other side of the court where he was trying to get position. Bam would be exhausted by the second quarter.
Seriously, Malone's conditioning was legendary.
>He retired at age 39 and scored 13.2 PPG that season. Surely you're exaggerating a bit?
He played in the NBA Finals when he was a month shy of being 41. You're wrong.
Malone’s conditioning was not good, but his Human growth hormone was, his endurance wasn’t good, but you know what was? His testosterone replacement therapy🤣 And so what? He’s good on fast breaks wowwwww😧 mane that niggah was trash just a ball of fast twitch muscle that’s wasn’t even fast twitch like that, and yeah anyone is fast going down court on a fast break, but when the court gets cut in half he struggles so bad, his lateral movement sucked. And yeah go ahead and try that cherry pick shi on the King Lion and watch how Karl ends up on a slow motion video with a tiger chasing behind him looking to tap his shi off the board, and there’d be no goal tending.
>Malone’s conditioning was not good, but his Human growth hormone was, his endurance wasn’t good, but you know what was? His testosterone replacement therapy🤣 And so what? He’s good on fast breaks wowwwww
I almost didn't respond to this because the complete ignorance (at best, idiocy at worst) does a good job of killing your argument without a response. But I will say this, he may have been geared up, I don't know and don't care. What I do know is, his conditioning absolutely was legendary. He worked out like a beast. He even had a series of workout videos back in the day. And he wasn't just good on fast breaks - the Jazz weren't even a fast break team. They were a pick and roll team. But he would still sprint down the court and make his man run to keep up. And then he'd physically rough him up in the post after they got there. Every, single, play. For 40 minutes.
You don't play around 40 minutes a night for 20 years, without missing any games most seasons, even if you're soft, without great conditioning. And you definitely don't play for minutes a night without missing any games for 20 years when you're the most physical player in the league, unless your conditioning is fantastic.
Go watch any random game he played in. You'll probably hear the announcers talk about how he always beats him man down the court on offense and defense to get to the spot on the floor that he wants to be in. And the out muscles him when his man gets there.
Oh yeah? And why is that? Because I claimed that a 13 year old liking, overrated, out-dated style of basketball having BUM sucks at ball? Yeah he does completely, noticed how I said Bam Adebayo, I didn’t even bring up AD, the real show stopper😂 AD would make Malone his 13 year old girlfriend, how about that? Oh you think Malone beats AD?? Yeah I see who don’t know shi about basketball lol
Bruh 🤣😂Malone averaged 27 and 10 vs Dennis Rodman for his career..arguably one of the best defenders ever..gtfoh Malone would eat up Bam in any era..next you’re gonna say some bullshit like Bam is a better defender than Rodman 😂🤣
Nah honestly I’m thinking level headed now, Giannis is one of the best players in the world and he strives against both AD and Bam, and Giannis is very similar to Malone, I change my view on Tha mailman he’d be good against AD and Bam
Psh yeah Stockton could shoot alright I guess😂Have you seen the boys on ‘24 though oh yeah those are some snipers right there, just like that boy Wardell or really anyone on that team, everyone on 24 can shoot elite from three except for Kawhi, but Kawhi brings so much else and we don’t need too many people shooting threes, but what I’m tryna tell you is they stretch the floor wider than a web ho3 got her shi stretched
Even if Giannis decided to play for Greece they wouldn’t win.
Canada gives the us some trouble but doesn’t come close to winning, Slovenia gives us some trouble but gets smoked, France is tough in the paint but we bully them with our guards and forwards.
American teams don’t have the chemistry in the clutch to beat the best nations consistently They’ll lose a game in Paris. They do have the best talent pool, obviously.
They don’t have the chemistry?😂🤦🏽 they don’t need it, all they need is motivation dude, America has always been a country who’s biggest successes came after someone pissed them off a bit too much and stepped out of line, ok fine you guys wanna shit on the US, we saw what happened with the redeem team, big 08’ now it’s big 24’ both doing it for Kobe, with him and in his absence.
Redeem team barely won the gold medal game. Not sure if you’ve seen the game; if you have, rewatch it on YouTube. Kobe had to go nuts and Melo had to be on fire for them to win it.
They can do it. Bird looked pretty spry in his attic during that commercial. Magic looks exactly the same. Jordan has probably been an alien this whole time and only stopped playing so it appeared to us that time impacted him the same way it impacts humans. Ewing is still sweating it out in commercials. Barkley is almost back down to his playing weight. Chris Mullin looks solid still. I bet Christian Laetner has lost a step though.
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Ya know I was prolly drunk when I typed that imma be straight. Tho I atill think talent and chemistry wise dream team is still slightly better. Talent is kinda subjective tho cause pretty much every one is top tier talent on both. And tbf larry kinda drags the dream team down due to back issues. So honestly we'll just have to see how well this team does. Cause while I expect nothing less than gold we have to see how dominate they are especially since the rest of the world has gotten more talented.
LeBron is 39 and will likely start. Curry and Durant are 36 and 36 respectively. The oldest player in the Dream Team was Larry Bird at 35. The only other player older than 30 was Magic Johnson at 32
Ya know looking at it again there is a hellva lot more experience over all than I first thought. It was really just Edward's and Hali that I focused on. But I still think overall talent and chemistry while dream team takes a 7 game series. Bird does ironically bring them down a lil cause by that point he was pretty well into his back issues if I remember right.
I agree. The 2012 Olympic team was significantly better than this one imo and it's weird that they're not being brought up here. 27 year old LeBron James, 23 year old Durant and Westbrook, 22 year old James Harden, 33 year old Kobe Bryant, 27 year old Chris Paul and 28 year old Carmelo Anthony. Each of the first 5 were all once the best player in the league at least once (imo with MVP awards as supporting evidence). All of these (aside from Kobe) were at or near their NBA prime, and they had a strong supporting cast. I think the 2012 team could beat the dream team 4-3 in a 7 game series, but both teams are significantly stronger than the 2024 team.
Ya know I feel bad for not even thinking about the redeem team. But ya imo if bird wasn't dragging them down then give me the dream but reality is they might even take it in 6
Can we stop with these "who will win against 92 dream team" scenarios? NO TEAM is ever going to beat the 92 DT. AD, Kawhi & Embiid will be hurt before warmup. Right off the bat, that team is short 3 already. KD is too sensitive and Chuck will literally eat him alive. LBJ will be too busy trying to convince himself and everyone that will listen that he's the GOAT. He's not. It won't even be a 7 game series. The 92 team will win this best of 7 in 2 games.
The only argument for the 2024 team winning is that the NBA's overall level of skill in basketball has increased since 1992. Relative to their era, the Dream Team has a much more impressive roster. The 2012 Olympic Team is significantly closer to the Dream Team, and even then I think they lose.
Here is where the dream team players ranked in the 1992 MVP voting.
Michael Jordan (1, winner)
Clyde Drexler (2)
David Robinson (3)
Karl Malone (4)
Patrick Ewing (5)
Chris Mullin (6)
Scottie Pippen (9)
Barkley (12)
Stockton (12)
And then you have Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, near the end of their careers, but have the skill sets to support these guys.
Maybe the redeem team could go head to head with these guys, but you have a bunch of MVP candidates three of whom are clear top 10 all time players, and one of the top 2 players in his absolute prime.
There isn’t an argument for the 2024 ‘avengers’ squad.
Dream team although this team is really good it’s a little overrated because the last Olympics was weak. I think 2012 was better than this current roster by a little. Last year it felt like they were going to lose if they didn’t have KD while this team is more up to normal strength
Avengers 3 best players are past their primes lol Dream Team got this
Sure Magic and Bird are past their primes but everybody else is in their prime and battle tested
The Dream team wins this easily in a 7 game series. The 24 team is good enough to take a game or two but the dream team is better all around.
A better match-up would be the Dream Team vs the Redeem Team. That one would go to 7 and either team has a legit shot at winning.
I really hate that Embiid is a part of this team. They should have pulled a move similar to what they did to Isiah Thomas and not allow him to join team USA. The dude is just gonna inure someone on his team with his flopping.
The 92 team also has no experience with modern defense schemes/help defense. People really underrate defensive advancements after illegal defense was removed.
I like the physical play but that's what the 90s relied on those guys were playing football. The game is actually more defined now. You can't just be fouling people the whole game and call it defense.
Lol this sub is a joke. Any one that understands the game knows that modern defense is way more complex than pre-rule change. If the 89 Pistons played today they would foul out before the half.
There's less contact in today's NBA. Surely you acknowledge that the Detroit Pistons were much more physical in their defense than any current NBA team.
They're stacked. I think Barkley would be a great impact player given the starters that I've picked, but his d is weaker than Malone's. And Malone has Stockton on the second unit for offense.
I think people underrate Barkley. But at the time in 1992 Larry Bird was past his prime and if I remember correctly he had back issues and because of that he couldn't really play for that long before he needed to go to the bench so there would probably be plenty of time for all 3 to play.
DT in 2. By the end of the 2nd game, the 24 team will not have enough players to field a starting 5. AD, Kawhi, Embiid would have been injured stepping off the plane.
24 easily
Did y’all forget Larry had a broken back and Magic was out the league
Jrue is putting Stockton in JAIL
Size is an issue but I never seen Ewing guard the perimeter
I’m saying this as a Knicks fan, Embiid is cooking Ewing
If you’re playing modern basketball, the Avengers sweep easily. Players today are faster/stronger and are specialized athletes trained from a young age to do this.
The amount of 3s the 2024 team would shoot and hit alone is going to give them a massive advantage.
‘24 avengers is gonna have more hard time this summer than you can imagine. You are a fool if you think they will dominate every game. The gap is much smaller between USA and international teams even though it’s a strong team on paper
I’m not a fossil so I didn’t watch the dream team live. I know bird and magic were probably out of their primes. I would say the dream team assuming the rest of them were near peak form.
Dream Team. However, '24 can play all 12, '92 can only play 11. Yeah Christian Laettner was nice in college but that was college. Gotta replace him with Isiah Thomas. Idc if him and MJ are beefing.
If we're being honest, 10 1/2 could play. I love Bird and consider him a top 3 player of all-time but he was on the Dream Team for symbolic reasons. He was limited and playing in constant pain by '92.
Though, you could say something similar about Kawhi today. He's great when he's healthy, but it's not that often.
Laettner wasn't on the team because he can play or not. They didn't need him but they had to have 12 players. He was there to carry the bags, which he gladly did.
I don’t know much about Angola, but I know they are in trouble.
Underrated, Charles out there randomly elbowing 😂😂
"Charles Barkley? The commentator?"
Yeah apparently he was actually on the court, mind blowing /s 😂😂
Dream team and it isn’t close
Yep. They are gonna get bullied around and Dream team can play defense.
I'm not sure a lineup of holiday, ant, Kawaii, Bam, AD are gonna be bullied by anyone.
You just underestimate Stockton and that whole era. That guy is known to have bullied opposing guards and wasn’t afraid to mix it up with anyone. Also, Kawhi is already out of the game with injury before he’s checked in.
Nah. I'm in my 40s. I watched that era. The notion that everyone was a tough guy back then is laughable. Some were, many were not.
We aren’t talking when. We’re talking who. This list is full of hard playing ballers. Pippen, Bird, Ewing, Malone. They are pushing ppl around in paint or perimeter. I didn’t say everyone was a tough guy. But the game was no question physically tougher and you got away with more. If you don’t agree, you didn’t truly watch that era. I’m saying they are much more rare now and that ‘92 team is full of them
Are we getting 1992 refs or 2024 refs....
That is an important factor
I think the assumption would be 2024, unless stated otherwise.
Shhh you’re supposed to say that was the best era of basketball and they would win without trying
The dream team is a much better team but I think Stockton is the worst possible example to use here. I watched that era and Stockton was amazing but he didn't have the size to compete with Jrue or Ant.
His size was not a factor to his success and it didn’t hold him back. He is still arguably the best PG ever. And still the all time leader in steals by almost 600 steals. Also the all time leader in assists. Let alone he wasn’t a pushover. I don’t know why ppl say “I watched that era” when you clearly didn’t to make comments about him like that. Jrue will be completely forgotten in 5 years and Ant isn’t a PG. “Jason Kidd, one of the best playmakers in NBA history, played 19 seasons and came more than 3,700 assists short. Chris Paul, the “Point God,” has played 17 seasons and remains about 5,000 assists short.”
The comment prior to mine directly mentioned Jrue and Ant as players who Stockton would hold back. Jrue has 3-4 inches and 35 pounds on Stockton. Ant has 4 inches and nearly 60 pounds on Stockton. He isn't holding either of them back. It's not really relevant that Stockton is better than both of those guys all time what's being discussed is whether he could defend them. He's better than Kwame too but Kwame would destroy Stockton in a 1 on 1. Chris Paul was significantly more athletic than Stockton in terms of speed, strength, and quickness and even he, despite being one of the greatest PG defenders of all time, struggles against much larger opponents. I did watch those guys play. That's why it's pretty easy to acknowledge that there are certain 90's players who are at a huge disadvantage here due to matchups (like Stockton) and certain 90's players who also are at a huge advantage (like Robinson and Ewing) for the same reason.
You think Ewing and Robinson are at a disadvantage to Davis and Embiid???? Dude you’re wild. Stockton’s not at a disadvantage either bc of his size. You aren’t the all time steal leader bc you stole the ball from guys your size or smaller. Ewing was 7’0 Robinson 7’1 Both had elite offensive and defensive skills. Neither are at a disadvantage.
I think you gotta read my comment again.
I’m missing your point clearly. Clarify then.
Kawhi isn't the same anymore. AD can easily get bullied. Bam and Jrue would do well.
Against Malone, Robinson, Larry, MJ, Stockton? Yeah, they getting bullied.
What era are we getting the refs from. If it's 2024 refs, nobody gets to bully anyone.
Oh I didn’t pick up that your ref comment was backhanded earlier. The bullying still happens buddy. Just not bad boy pistons Laimbeer/Rodman type of bullying.
I don’t think the US is even going to win gold this year. This team peaked 5 years ago. Not good enough to win Olympic gold.
There is no way this team is not winning gold. Embiid adebayo and ad is the best front court in the world lol. Dream team would win
Do you hear yourself? A team of LeBron James, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, Jayson Tatum, Anthony Edwards, Anthony Davis, Bam Adebayo, Joel Embiid, Kawhi Leonard, Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Booker, and Jrue Holiday is not good enough to win gold?
It’s not 1992 anymore.
Oh what so Wemby and Gobert are gonna come in and beat this team with barely any offense? Or it’s gonna be ho azz Serbia? Or Slovenia? Psh please these teams suck, and the 92 dream team is an old out-dated style of basketball with no perimeter play, just a bunch of guys collapsing into the paint🤣 who are they gonna pass it out to? John Stockton??LOLLL, someone even said this team is weak🤦🏽😭 Embiid would embarrass Ewing, Adebayo would destroy Malone, AD would little boy Barkley. And don’t even get me started on KD and Bird, what is Bird gonna do against 7ft tall offensive demi god KD? Magic on LeBron??! Come on man ‘92 team sucks😆
Adebayo would destroy Malone 💀Karl would treat that man like a 14 year girl..M
Dude Malone was a stiff out of date style, post up merchant, backdoor pass receiving Bum, what is he gonna go for on Bam? A post fade??🤣. Adebayo is simply just the new breed of players who are stronger faster and more athletic. Plus everyone stretches the floor on team USA, Imagine all those guys on team USA like ANT, Bron, and Embiid working within the three point line and then being able to pass it out and knowing that everyone on team USA can shoot on some sniper shi from deep. Team USA 24’ is simply more athletic, more skilled, and better equipped to win.
>Dude Malone was a stiff out of date style, post up merchant, backdoor pass receiving Bum, what is he gonna go for on Bam? You clearly never saw him play. Even at 40 years old he was the fastest big guy down the court on every play. He would sprint after every shot and beat his man to the spot on the other side of the court where he was trying to get position. Bam would be exhausted by the second quarter. Seriously, Malone's conditioning was legendary.
He retired at age 39 and scored 13.2 PPG that season. Surely you're exaggerating a bit?
>He retired at age 39 and scored 13.2 PPG that season. Surely you're exaggerating a bit? He played in the NBA Finals when he was a month shy of being 41. You're wrong.
Malone’s conditioning was not good, but his Human growth hormone was, his endurance wasn’t good, but you know what was? His testosterone replacement therapy🤣 And so what? He’s good on fast breaks wowwwww😧 mane that niggah was trash just a ball of fast twitch muscle that’s wasn’t even fast twitch like that, and yeah anyone is fast going down court on a fast break, but when the court gets cut in half he struggles so bad, his lateral movement sucked. And yeah go ahead and try that cherry pick shi on the King Lion and watch how Karl ends up on a slow motion video with a tiger chasing behind him looking to tap his shi off the board, and there’d be no goal tending.
>Malone’s conditioning was not good, but his Human growth hormone was, his endurance wasn’t good, but you know what was? His testosterone replacement therapy🤣 And so what? He’s good on fast breaks wowwwww I almost didn't respond to this because the complete ignorance (at best, idiocy at worst) does a good job of killing your argument without a response. But I will say this, he may have been geared up, I don't know and don't care. What I do know is, his conditioning absolutely was legendary. He worked out like a beast. He even had a series of workout videos back in the day. And he wasn't just good on fast breaks - the Jazz weren't even a fast break team. They were a pick and roll team. But he would still sprint down the court and make his man run to keep up. And then he'd physically rough him up in the post after they got there. Every, single, play. For 40 minutes. You don't play around 40 minutes a night for 20 years, without missing any games most seasons, even if you're soft, without great conditioning. And you definitely don't play for minutes a night without missing any games for 20 years when you're the most physical player in the league, unless your conditioning is fantastic. Go watch any random game he played in. You'll probably hear the announcers talk about how he always beats him man down the court on offense and defense to get to the spot on the floor that he wants to be in. And the out muscles him when his man gets there.
this man has never watched basketball in his life
Oh yeah? And why is that? Because I claimed that a 13 year old liking, overrated, out-dated style of basketball having BUM sucks at ball? Yeah he does completely, noticed how I said Bam Adebayo, I didn’t even bring up AD, the real show stopper😂 AD would make Malone his 13 year old girlfriend, how about that? Oh you think Malone beats AD?? Yeah I see who don’t know shi about basketball lol
Bruh 🤣😂Malone averaged 27 and 10 vs Dennis Rodman for his career..arguably one of the best defenders ever..gtfoh Malone would eat up Bam in any era..next you’re gonna say some bullshit like Bam is a better defender than Rodman 😂🤣
Nah honestly I’m thinking level headed now, Giannis is one of the best players in the world and he strives against both AD and Bam, and Giannis is very similar to Malone, I change my view on Tha mailman he’d be good against AD and Bam
>who are they gonna pass it out to? John Stockton??LOLLL, You don't think Stockton could shoot?! Somebody obviously did not see any of his games, lol
Psh yeah Stockton could shoot alright I guess😂Have you seen the boys on ‘24 though oh yeah those are some snipers right there, just like that boy Wardell or really anyone on that team, everyone on 24 can shoot elite from three except for Kawhi, but Kawhi brings so much else and we don’t need too many people shooting threes, but what I’m tryna tell you is they stretch the floor wider than a web ho3 got her shi stretched
Even if Giannis decided to play for Greece they wouldn’t win. Canada gives the us some trouble but doesn’t come close to winning, Slovenia gives us some trouble but gets smoked, France is tough in the paint but we bully them with our guards and forwards.
American teams don’t have the chemistry in the clutch to beat the best nations consistently They’ll lose a game in Paris. They do have the best talent pool, obviously.
They don’t have the chemistry?😂🤦🏽 they don’t need it, all they need is motivation dude, America has always been a country who’s biggest successes came after someone pissed them off a bit too much and stepped out of line, ok fine you guys wanna shit on the US, we saw what happened with the redeem team, big 08’ now it’s big 24’ both doing it for Kobe, with him and in his absence.
Time will tell. Of course they can win. I just think they’ll lose a game in the later stages.
This entire disagreement was constructive. Ya gotta love it.
Redeem team barely won the gold medal game. Not sure if you’ve seen the game; if you have, rewatch it on YouTube. Kobe had to go nuts and Melo had to be on fire for them to win it.
Stop pussy footing and make a claim. Who is going to beat the US for gold?
lol jesus
people really be saying anything nowadays
Bro wat Are you smoking ??😆
‘24 team wins by 2. The Dream Team is in their 50s and 60s now so I think they’ve probably lost a step.
They can do it. Bird looked pretty spry in his attic during that commercial. Magic looks exactly the same. Jordan has probably been an alien this whole time and only stopped playing so it appeared to us that time impacted him the same way it impacts humans. Ewing is still sweating it out in commercials. Barkley is almost back down to his playing weight. Chris Mullin looks solid still. I bet Christian Laetner has lost a step though.
Dream team easily because of how old Steph, Bron, and KD are. If they were all in their prime it would be closer
How old are the Dream Team players? lol
Dream Team by a mile next question
But but but we got the second coming of MJ?!
So dumb it belongs in circle jerk
Who the fuck is guarding Robinson, Ewing, Malone, and Barkley down low?
92 easily Defensive icons on this team. 3pt shots or not, they aren't giving up much.
Dream team by 20 easy.
I don’t know if they can beat France, never mind the Dream Team.
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Dream Team wouldn’t even need to shower after the game. That’s 11 HOFers and Christian Laettner led by Chuck Daly.
24 isn't experienced enough to keep up with dream team. While the 3 point shooting will make it a challenge I still think dream team sweeps
24 literally is older than the 92 team was. “Isn’t experienced enough” isn’t a valid argument.
Ya know I was prolly drunk when I typed that imma be straight. Tho I atill think talent and chemistry wise dream team is still slightly better. Talent is kinda subjective tho cause pretty much every one is top tier talent on both. And tbf larry kinda drags the dream team down due to back issues. So honestly we'll just have to see how well this team does. Cause while I expect nothing less than gold we have to see how dominate they are especially since the rest of the world has gotten more talented.
LeBron is 39 and will likely start. Curry and Durant are 36 and 36 respectively. The oldest player in the Dream Team was Larry Bird at 35. The only other player older than 30 was Magic Johnson at 32
Ya know looking at it again there is a hellva lot more experience over all than I first thought. It was really just Edward's and Hali that I focused on. But I still think overall talent and chemistry while dream team takes a 7 game series. Bird does ironically bring them down a lil cause by that point he was pretty well into his back issues if I remember right.
I agree. The 2012 Olympic team was significantly better than this one imo and it's weird that they're not being brought up here. 27 year old LeBron James, 23 year old Durant and Westbrook, 22 year old James Harden, 33 year old Kobe Bryant, 27 year old Chris Paul and 28 year old Carmelo Anthony. Each of the first 5 were all once the best player in the league at least once (imo with MVP awards as supporting evidence). All of these (aside from Kobe) were at or near their NBA prime, and they had a strong supporting cast. I think the 2012 team could beat the dream team 4-3 in a 7 game series, but both teams are significantly stronger than the 2024 team.
Ya know I feel bad for not even thinking about the redeem team. But ya imo if bird wasn't dragging them down then give me the dream but reality is they might even take it in 6
Depends on what era rules they use.
No it really doesn't lol
r u bein fur reals rn
Dream Team us too talented and too physical
Dream Team in 3
Dream Team (and it'll be a massacre)
Dream team in 7 on a buzzer beater. They are all in their 50's now and will need a more water breaks.
Can we stop with these "who will win against 92 dream team" scenarios? NO TEAM is ever going to beat the 92 DT. AD, Kawhi & Embiid will be hurt before warmup. Right off the bat, that team is short 3 already. KD is too sensitive and Chuck will literally eat him alive. LBJ will be too busy trying to convince himself and everyone that will listen that he's the GOAT. He's not. It won't even be a 7 game series. The 92 team will win this best of 7 in 2 games.
How is this a comparison? 4-0 clean and easy.
The only argument for the 2024 team winning is that the NBA's overall level of skill in basketball has increased since 1992. Relative to their era, the Dream Team has a much more impressive roster. The 2012 Olympic Team is significantly closer to the Dream Team, and even then I think they lose.
Here is where the dream team players ranked in the 1992 MVP voting. Michael Jordan (1, winner) Clyde Drexler (2) David Robinson (3) Karl Malone (4) Patrick Ewing (5) Chris Mullin (6) Scottie Pippen (9) Barkley (12) Stockton (12) And then you have Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, near the end of their careers, but have the skill sets to support these guys. Maybe the redeem team could go head to head with these guys, but you have a bunch of MVP candidates three of whom are clear top 10 all time players, and one of the top 2 players in his absolute prime. There isn’t an argument for the 2024 ‘avengers’ squad.
Why is Embiid in there? I thought he was French/Cameroonian?
Dream team although this team is really good it’s a little overrated because the last Olympics was weak. I think 2012 was better than this current roster by a little. Last year it felt like they were going to lose if they didn’t have KD while this team is more up to normal strength
Avengers 3 best players are past their primes lol Dream Team got this Sure Magic and Bird are past their primes but everybody else is in their prime and battle tested
Magic was only 33. The only reason he was retired at that point was testing positive for HIV.
The one without Embiid
The 24 team has no answer for Laettner.
The Dream team wins this easily in a 7 game series. The 24 team is good enough to take a game or two but the dream team is better all around. A better match-up would be the Dream Team vs the Redeem Team. That one would go to 7 and either team has a legit shot at winning.
I really hate that Embiid is a part of this team. They should have pulled a move similar to what they did to Isiah Thomas and not allow him to join team USA. The dude is just gonna inure someone on his team with his flopping.
Dream team.
Devin Booker’s nightmare is Scottie Pippen and John Stockton double-team
Dream Team sweeps with MJ smiling all the way.
Everyone is saying dream team, but if they play modern ruleset it’s much closer than people think
So the 92 team plays without anyone allowed to touch them when they have the ball? They would murder the 24 team.
The 92 team also has no experience with modern defense schemes/help defense. People really underrate defensive advancements after illegal defense was removed.
Do you watch today’s NBA? Watch a game from this year and a Detroit Pistons game from 1989 and tell me which has better defense.
I like the physical play but that's what the 90s relied on those guys were playing football. The game is actually more defined now. You can't just be fouling people the whole game and call it defense.
Yeah it’s a bummer how soft it is these days
Lol this sub is a joke. Any one that understands the game knows that modern defense is way more complex than pre-rule change. If the 89 Pistons played today they would foul out before the half.
You think they call more fouls today??? lol
There's less contact in today's NBA. Surely you acknowledge that the Detroit Pistons were much more physical in their defense than any current NBA team.
This take is a joke.
It really is a joke
Well you are certainly welcome to your wrong opinion
Avengers and it’s not close
Dream team. The 24 team isn't even that good. Most of the guys are over the hill and most have been hurt recently. I don't think this team will win
Bird and Magic were more “over the hill” than Bron, Steph, or KD. And those are the oldest guys on this years team.
Exactly bird and magic was declining
The Dreamers mop 'em 1. Magic, Stockton 2. Jordan, Drexler 3. Pippen, Mullins 4. Bird, Malone 5. Ewing, DRob
What Barkley can't play?
They're stacked. I think Barkley would be a great impact player given the starters that I've picked, but his d is weaker than Malone's. And Malone has Stockton on the second unit for offense.
I think people underrate Barkley. But at the time in 1992 Larry Bird was past his prime and if I remember correctly he had back issues and because of that he couldn't really play for that long before he needed to go to the bench so there would probably be plenty of time for all 3 to play.
C’mon man some of these players can’t complete a 7 game series due to injuries. Dream team in 5.
DT in 2. By the end of the 2nd game, the 24 team will not have enough players to field a starting 5. AD, Kawhi, Embiid would have been injured stepping off the plane.
Lol
These 2024 soft as Charmin soyboys would retire by halftime from Jordan/Barkley/Bird smack talk.
24 easily Did y’all forget Larry had a broken back and Magic was out the league Jrue is putting Stockton in JAIL Size is an issue but I never seen Ewing guard the perimeter I’m saying this as a Knicks fan, Embiid is cooking Ewing
Hell no. Patrick would feast on Embiid’s Charmin ass.
92 wins every time stop asking
24 in 7 and only because the average age of the dream team is 57.
I didn't realize the dream team was stacked. It's not even close to the dream team in their individual primes
If you’re playing modern basketball, the Avengers sweep easily. Players today are faster/stronger and are specialized athletes trained from a young age to do this. The amount of 3s the 2024 team would shoot and hit alone is going to give them a massive advantage.
I’m sorry man, there isn’t a player in the NBA today stronger than Karl Malone and Patrick Ewing.
Faster? Maybe. Not by much. Stronger? Nah. This league is soft and easily injured. This would go one way, and it's not good for the young guys
Ooooohhh, what a new and refreshing question.
They are called the dream team for a reason.
‘24 avengers is gonna have more hard time this summer than you can imagine. You are a fool if you think they will dominate every game. The gap is much smaller between USA and international teams even though it’s a strong team on paper
Dream team
Top tier bait
Dream team. AD, Kawhi, Haliburton, Embiid will rest their players
I’m not a fossil so I didn’t watch the dream team live. I know bird and magic were probably out of their primes. I would say the dream team assuming the rest of them were near peak form.
I’m so tired of Devon Booker. He’s not a good player really.
What rules? The new crybaby rules. Or the rough play of the 90's?
Dream team for sure. Too many civilians on '24 (Book, Hali, Tatum). :)
Dream Team. However, '24 can play all 12, '92 can only play 11. Yeah Christian Laettner was nice in college but that was college. Gotta replace him with Isiah Thomas. Idc if him and MJ are beefing.
If we're being honest, 10 1/2 could play. I love Bird and consider him a top 3 player of all-time but he was on the Dream Team for symbolic reasons. He was limited and playing in constant pain by '92. Though, you could say something similar about Kawhi today. He's great when he's healthy, but it's not that often.
True. Who replaces Bird and Leonard?
Laettner wasn't on the team because he can play or not. They didn't need him but they had to have 12 players. He was there to carry the bags, which he gladly did.
Or Shaq!
‘24 can’t even beat the ‘08 redeem team. I think that team is the closest to beating ‘92.
Redeem team beating the dream team those guys were in their prime and don't forget they also had D wade in his absolute prime.
As if DWade was a difference maker.
‘92 has that dog in them. 4-1 gentleman’s sweep.
Better question is who on the ‘24 team would even make the Dream Team.
Not much of a better question. The answer is none.
That usa team for 2024 is one of the weakest usa ones since nba players been allowed lol