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_NautyByNature

I mean picking at a guy at 12 and then leaning on him hard in the NBA Finals is a pretty big jump. I don’t think anyone slated Lively to that important right away.


LeBroentgen

The discussion around Lively was he'd need 1-2 years to become a positive starting center and that O-Max was the guy who was ready to play.


Ironman2131

Even without hindsight, that seems so strange to me. Lively has clear skills that make him easy to slot in right away, especially on a team with ball dominant guards like the Mavs have.


Goro_Dogz

Lively was always seen as what Mavs need but a couple years away from taking on that role. He just didn’t have any scoring presence in college averaging 4 ppg. He also looked very lost and out of place in the Summer league, making pretty poor decisions on short rolls and obviously not being a lob threat due to the nature of summer league games. His first game, against Victor, was a complete shock for most fans. I think without hindsight watching him in Vegas you’d understand why he was expected to be a project.


Ironman2131

I didn't watch him in summer league but he always seemed pretty plug in play as an energy and defense guy in college. Offense can take awhile for those players, but Luka and Kyrie make life so much easier for bigs who can be lob targets.


MintyLahLah

As a Spurs fan, Lively impressed me in our first matchup up against Dallas. He seemed to be in the right spot at the right time, every time. He may not be a star, but he’s gonna be a vital piece of any team


TheRealJoeLunardi

He didn't get consistent playing time in college until the 2nd half of the season. He was backing up Filipowski for most of the year. His PPG would've been higher if he started the whole year and was given more touches.


JPKthe3

Track record for that type of big is that they don’t start ready made, as much as it seems like they should. They really need eyes in the back of their head because so much of their responsibility is happening behind them. It’s pretty rare that they don’t get exploited early on.


Ironman2131

Fair point, but it helps when all he really has to focus on is defense and rebounding. On offense, set screens and go to the rim. I know I'm oversimplifying, but his situation is perfect for an athletic young big.


kunfuz1on

That pretty much sums up his game. He still doesn’t really have offensive capabilities yet other than lobs. He does look promising though.


electricvelvet

He doesn't need to since Luka has the ball in his hands 99% of the time and the rest of the time it's in kyrie's, they set the table for literally every other player


Ironman2131

Exactly. It's a perfect situation for a player with Lively's current skill set to thrive.


Nubsondubs

Anyone who thought O-Max would be ready to play and not a multi-year project was unfamiliar with his game or delusional.


imianha

Its not very normal that a Rookie 20yo center is arguably the 3rd most important piece on a team that reached the finals. He is pretty raw offensively, but he has an impressive BBIQ and vision, and he learns so fast that it almost makes no sense.


_NautyByNature

Court vision at that age, when other aspects are still understandably raw, is a big plus for the guy. Denying him space at the dunkers spot and taking away his rim running lanes was a move by the Mazzle Dazzle that Kidd really had not answer for.


ViacomCEO

He gets his props though. He definitely over performed for his draft position, and maybe was underrated at draft time, but I don't think he's underrated now.


LoisLaneEl

As a Duke fan, I kinda did


ChefJeff7777777

If you consider underrated in terms of making a ballsy decision that paid off and was very against the grain, I’d say picking Miller at 2 over Scoot is pretty damn underrated.


Double-Slowpoke

Miller is an oddly good choice for underrated. I think a lot of players got more love, and Wemby took the lion’s share of the ROTY vote, but Miller is the clear second best player in this draft.


Goducks91

Wasn’t the consensus that Miller was more NBA ready and has a higher floor, but Scoot has the higher possible ceiling? Id say that’s still true! I might be bias because I’m a Blazer fan.


PM_FORBUTTSTUFF

I am admittedly bullish on Miller and soft on Scoot but Miller has a significantly better positional frame and length and is already a solid shooter. Scoot gonna have to become elite at getting to the rim and facilitating to make up for that


sesamestix

I’m a Hornets fan who was originally furious we took Miller over Scoot. But now I think Miller has a higher ceiling.


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MagicianMoo

Remember how bad everyone was flaming Hornets for selecting Miller. Pepperidge farms remember.


SXNE2

Underrated? I might go Keyonte George or Gradey Dick. Every other notable guy has gotten plenty of attention.


NikolaJokic2023

Right. I think a lot of people are focusing more on their draft position rather than their actual perception. The question was "most underrated," not "biggest steal."


ViacomCEO

Biggest steal is just gonna be spurs getting wemby anyway lol.


CoachRDW

He's certainly the *tallest* steal (and block heh).


teddytruther

Hendricks for Utah is another one. Limited minutes but he flashed some very promising stuff.


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You know ball!!!!


TheMightyCatatafish

Love Keyonte George. Had some growing pains once he got thrust into the full time starter role, but if you watch him, you can see the potential. Really optimistic on that kid.


minimumhatred

Agree on Dick, besides all the jokes, he started off rough, went to 905, but February to april he started to take off. (his +/- was still pretty bad as waa his defensive rating but the raptors also went into a tailspin because of injuries so, take it as you will)


Drummallumin

Keyonte is gonna be legit


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You are the only one talking sense here! I’m not even a Utah fan but it’s clear as day how much potential he’s got! Saw him almost get a triple double earlier the season putting up 30+ numbers . Anyone reading this should go watch his highlights for the season and see how good he actually is . I wish my team would trade for him before his market value goes way up!


gray_character

George is one of the few young cornerstones that the Jazz are banking on for their rebuild. I wouldn't really say he's available for a few years.


Jonahstamper

that’s what i was thinking. grady is a dog fr


nonetimeaccount

Cam Whitmore coming for all the buckets


gorksfist

Yup.


Crossover-Bully

Underrated is 100% Ben Shepard and I’m not even a pacers fan. Nearly a second round pick and logging decent minutes in the ECF is a steal. He’s solid.


ElPanandero

Ben Sheppard is a great answer


dutchfromsubway

It pains me so much how many Canadians the pacers have and we couldn’t get one


Resting_Vicario_Face

Elite 3&D player in the making. And he's one of those effort guys who just get steals and ignite the team with energy


MrPainfulAnal

This guy knows ball


Comfortable-Tone8236

Yeah, he is. He got meaningful minutes in the playoffs right through the conference finals and he couldn't even break into the bottom of the lists of top rookies. Here's one: https://nbarankings.theringer.com/rookie-rankings. Absurd.


MoooonRiverrrr

Yeah I was gonna say either Sheppard or Podz overperformed


NecessaryPair5

Indy has a great future. Great pick for them.


hashslingingbutthole

After discovering that he has my favourite shot base in 2k, I started paying some attention to him (lol), and I really like his game a lot


sadclown21

Coulibaly imo. Hes a stud he grew this summer and was looking really good by the end of the season. Think he’ll have a big jump this season


vuezie1127

Yeah he was really starting to string together some decent games once he was given some more freedom towards the end of the year


QuincyPondexter

God I hope so. I liked when Washington was competitive with Wall, Beal, Nene, and Gortat.


PopcornParatrooper

coulibaly is why sarr wants to be a wizard so much imo im so exited to see that.... bilal getting his wemby replacement loll


South_Ad4165

I would say Cason Wallace doesn't get enough love


Bigbossrabbit

Surprised to scroll so far for this. His game will age very well


JKMiles665

If he plays more against Dallas I think okc wins the series


gbest2tymes

That's interesting. That team is so deep it's fascinating to see them try to get the right lineups and matchups


small-with-benefits

And now the Thunder have Dort, Wallace, and Caruso. That’s a secured perimeter


JKMiles665

When he was on it provided JDub and SGA to be on the role players who were killing us. He did great against Kyrie


limark

Was amazed at how good he is for a rookie, we better be giving him more minutes next season because he is going to feast on the opponents bench


alexafaro

Cam Whitmore at 20 is still insane to me


xWood182

he's such a DAWG!


3icepwn

Even more bizarre is that the rockets FO were considering Whitmore with the 4th pick, but he somehow slid to their 20th pick


luckystrike2130

I don’t think he’s underrated. He slipped from top lottery pick to 20 because he fucked around at the combine and made fun of gradey dick’s name. The instant he was selected, literally everyone was talking about what a steal he was, with some pundits going so far as to say he was the most talented guy in the draft outside of wemby. People have always been high on whitmore. No one is underrating him.


gray_character

He made fun of Dick's name? Where'd you read that? Kind of weird that would be an issue because they seem like friends and have done podcasts together.


luckystrike2130

He was apparently fucking around during combines and not taking it seriously. And was making fun of gradey for his name in front of coaches and scouts. So GMs we’re concerned about his maturity mentally and let him slip


ImprovementSilly2895

I thought he had some degenerative knee condition?


CardiacKemba1

Bilal Coulibaly


AmazingDragon353

Gradey dick. Hear me out, it's not draft steals, it's underrated players. This dude is going to explode in a couple years, I'm calling it right now. Absolutely loveable energy, and a crazy hard worker. If he can get his conditioning right he fully could have that curry off ball shooter archetype (not talent, relax). Dude got rated an F tier draft pick, and especially towards the end of the season looked like a steal. Nobody watched the games after Scottie got injured tho so I can't actually prove that lol


shoulda_been_gone

People were really sleeping on dick after he got off slowly. He really came on the end of it, though.


counterpointguy

Giggle.


Musicferret

Second this. Dick is money.


AmazingDragon353

I love dick


MrRobot_96

He improved as the season went on and once he got use to the game speed he became a very reliable outside threat. Dude is going to be dangerous with better conditioning, that agility and shooting ability mixed with his size will be lethal in coming years.


MagicianMoo

Cant wait for him to be an all star and trade jerseys with everyone.


GreenEggs-12

It’s not about the size of the talent, but the lovable energy dick brings to the table


Economy-Barber-2642

Jordan Hawkins


X-Filer

If he can figure out defense he’ll play much more and get his recognition.


Jackfitz88

Dlive is def 100% the answer but low key, I think omax is the sleeper here. He has slot of potential to be a great two way player


Baluba95

Due to the playoff run, the DLive hype broke through even the national media coverage, I think he is rightfully rated very high.


LeBroentgen

Why do you think he barely played this season? He was supposed to be NBA ready and Lively was supposed to be the project, but the opposite happened and the Mavs clearly needed a 2 way wing, that's why they traded for PJ.


Youngrepboi

He can’t shoot and injuries. It was immediately noticed during pre season.


Nubsondubs

Nobody with any credibility thought he was going to be NBA ready. He's raw offensively for an NBA talent. Edit: O-Max, that is.


Jonthegoat_09

Ben Sheppard


Hypebeastzx

Second this ^


TyrusRaymond

18) Jaquez


D-Drones

As someone who doesn’t really follow Miami or the East in general, I still feel like I’ve been hearing about Jaquez all year


twinpeaks8

I took the post to mean which pick is underrated. I agree with this the most. Jaquez at 18 is great value on a pick outside of the lottery. He was a Top 5 rookie of the year in my opinion.


MarginallyClever

He is not underrated, he is quite highly rated


tehota

Can’t believe the lakers didn’t pick him


Gmork14

As a Lakers fan, looking at 18, 19 and 20 on that board brings me real pain. I’m not out on JHS yet, but it’s hard to see that ever looking like anygyng other than a huge missed opportunity.


rsmith524

19) Podziemski


SmokeApprehensive534

Either podz or jaquez


OhMy98

Scrolled way too far before seeing Podz. One of the only bright spots that team had this year


Thickencreamy

Pods, Moody, n Kuminga are why Klay is out looking for a contract.


reinman097

This is the clear correct answer. Not sure how it’s so far down.


Kvsav57

Because both those guys have gotten a lot of attention online and in basketball media.


IMicrowaveSteak

It has to be Jaime right?


Hurricanemasta

UNDERrated? I think everyone knows Jaime Jacquez is a good player.


ghostfacestealer

I think in the end Jarace Walker will be a top 3 player from this draft.


zebrafish_protein

This is probably the hottest take I’ll see all day. His potential is definitely there but this draft is loaded borderline all star potential.


ghostfacestealer

I knew top 3 would be a bit hot but if I said top 5 that wouldn’t really even be worth commenting because I think top 5 is a lock. But I do honestly believe he can end up top 3


KlemDaOG2010

Cam Whitmore


psycheese

Real chance the Cam Whitmore vote just goes up and up and up after each season imo


MomentousMind

This is the only answer and I’m biased


warrior_in_a_garden_

It is the best answer


monkeypiratebutt

Honestly… probably wemby


_stankypete

What a time to be alive as a spurs fan


Anxietyriddenstoner

Gotta be Derek Lively right? Rookies dont usually contribute that much to a finals team.


therichintrovert

crazy how cam whitmore got drafted at 20 just because of an injury. Good shooting + athletic


PopMoney6879

Jaime Jaquez Jr


BastionNZ

Brandon Miller. Everyone thought Charlotte we're stupid going for him over Scoot. Getting the right guy at #2 when everyone says you shouldn't is underated imo


fusiongt021

Wemby should have went #0


LittlefishBigsplash

Podz


WacoTacoRE

He got all rookie first team right? I don't think he's underrated.


LittlefishBigsplash

Fair statement. I took the question as who should have been drafted higher based on performance.


WacoTacoRE

True he's probably the best candidate for that, or Dereck lively or jjj


KDs_FakeAccount

Amen. Second best player from draft


SedanoSucks

Hood Schfino. Nevermind


elcapitan58

Just wait. Coulibaly is Him


SaintSavage1

Bro who tf is Jett Howard


Plenty_Cable1458

Anthony Black by far


Historical-Pizza1669

Cam whitmore fasho he tuff asf and got high potential.


Beautiful-Abrocoma79

Cason Wallace


DutyPuzzleheaded7765

Graddy, really got better as the season went on. While a lot of the other rookies got their shine nobody talks about Dick (no Diddy)


prodigus01

Raptor fans (myself included) are very high on Gradey. Went from G leaguer to essentially a starter within 82. That 3pt shooting is going to put the league on notice soon.


DutyPuzzleheaded7765

Kansas fan I watched all the raptor games to see my guys career


prodigus01

Love to hear that. Hope you stick around. My guess is he’s going to blow up this season.


DutyPuzzleheaded7765

Should be fun. 👀 Also I do find the Raptors fun to watch


Spiral_Out801

Keyonte George


Jack12404

My two picks for most underrated would be Noah Clowney and Marcus Sasser. Clowney started to show some promise towards the end of the season and he’s still only 19. If he can develop his shooting a little more, I think he’d fit well next to Claxton if they bring him back. Sasser torched the Bucks every time we played Detroit. I don’t know if he’ll be a starter, but he should be a great bench player.


FairConfection8756

Agreed. I think the Nets have something special with Clowney. Seeing him get playing time at the end of the season, he checks so many boxes. Long and fluid, aggressive, plays defense, and most surprisingly, was hitting confident threes.


GoochJuiceJr

Ben Sheppard. Stepped into the role well when the Pacers traded Buddy Hield.


Old-Construction-541

Ausar


seonblack

The Thompson twins, Kobe Brown, Keyonte George and Jacquez Jr.


riojjmichigan

ben Sheppard and as a pistons fan I have to say marcus sasser


SnooPies405

Noah Clowney had some really good performances at the end of the season when the Nets gave him minutes. I could see him becoming a great role player over the next few years.


Noske2K

Cason Wallace, he’s already a top 5 guard defender, and an elite shooter his first year. Looks like a veteran already.


Rockets7629

Rockets fan so I’m slightly biased but I stg cam whitmore is flying so under the radar because he didn’t play a good bit of his first season


OMJuwara

Ben Shepard


hackthisnsa

Picks 18, 19, and 20


pdalda

Jordan Hawkins


trueballer37

Keyonte George for sure


clutchcitycarlos88

if it ain’t cam whitmore then who ?


allhaildre

1) Wemby Outperformed some of the most insane hype of recent memory. Should have been DPOY.


Onetimenotagain

Podziemski, cason Wallace, and I know he isn’t really underrated and wasn’t great, but as an arkansas fan I’ve gotta say NSJ 😂 


MrPainfulAnal

Ben Sheppard but I’m biased cause I went to Belmont. Also cam whitmore but I’m biased cause I’m a nova fan


SelectionAdmirable93

Most underrated that no one talks about is prob Ben Sheppard. Best values are podz, lively, Jaime, keyonte and cam whitty


Carsonist614

Keyonte George is getting slept on a little bit but I don’t think anyone would argue against D. Live and his performance in the playoffs


lxkandel06

Noah Clowney


justredditting1010

George is the guy I think is going to take off next year


The_Land_

Probably Scoot cause it’s Portland.


Party-Ad4441

Victor Wembanyama. How bout that!


em_washington

Keyonte George at 16. Idk if he will be an All Star. But maybe.


Dior_2Saucyy

Keyonte George and Jaime Jacquez and you can say Jaime gets attention but you’d be lying because pre injury Jaime was going insane and still barely got recognition. keyonte is just underrated every aspect of his game is underrated.


rama1423

Wemby


golftroll

Noah Clowney had a good year for the Nets and has significant upside.


Ornery_Alligators

It seems crazy but I’ll make the case for Brandon Miller. In most other years he would have won ROY but he happened to be in the same draft class as one of the greatest rookie seasons of all time. He started slow but his final 41 games he was averaging 20/5/3 on 46/37/84. Sure there are nerdier picks, like Ben Shepard, Jaquez or Podziemski, who all exceeded their draft position, but Miller has a really good chance at becoming a star and I feel like he’s rarely ever even mentioned.


just_so_irrelevant

Ffs how does no one on Reddit know what the word underrated means? To actually answer your question though the answer is Noah Clowney imo. No one even knows him but he's already an NBA-ready package at just 19. Super long but has a really refined motor, great defender and rim protector (already career-high 7 blocks in a game), decent rebounding, and shoots 3s at 37%. He's the perfect stretch 4 archetype that every NBA team wants but gets zero attention. Honorary mentions to Marcus Sasser, Bilal Coulibaly, and Brandon Miller.


urmamaluvsme

Noah clowney. Watch him grow into a good player


Sure_Station9370

Keyonte George and I don’t think it’s really that close tbh


ElPanandero

Man this draft was so fucking good lmao Also free my mans Anthony Black


TheAnswerEK42

I think the Magic really believe in him. Watch the the Magic don’t sign major FA and AB gets a real spot in the rotation. Also I got to visit the practice facility and he went out of his way to dap me up!


ElPanandero

That’s so cool, I really like him. Early in the season when he started due to injuries he was awesome. Plus he’s been working hard and seems dedicated to getting better. I think he’ll be dope once they add enough shooting in the periphery that him only being a low volume shooter doesn’t hurt them as bad. Then he’ll really flourish imo


OG_Wan_Annunoby

Brandon miller was very good and is on track to hit the higher end of his projections (Paul George/Khris Middleton) offensively at least.


Tharook23

Only 3 answers make sense: Lively, Jaquez, and Podziemski


NikolaJokic2023

They are all the biggest steals, but no one underrates them. They were surprises, but they have been recognized by everyone for it. They really aren't underrated.


Ireadbooks-sg

I thought, biggest steal = should be rated higher up the board = underrated?


mrbusiness53

Jaquez is an absolute steal of a pick.


2tep

George, Jaquez and Podz all look like killer picks relative to draft order.


YesterdayFew3769

Bilal


croissant_titty

Bilal is nice and has a lot of upside and I feel like he doesn’t get a ton of love just because he’s on the Wizards


seasoned-veteran

He went #2 but it's Charlotte and their floppy muppet was hurt most of the year so no one watched their games. Brandon Miller looks really good imho


JKking15

Kobe Bufkin doubt many of yall watched at all when he did get PT but his defense at the POA is genuinely absurd. Reminds me of Jake Suggs defensively. Offensively he did great in gleague but struggled in the nba I think mostly due to lack of role. But he’s a legitimate 6’4 combo guard who can defend at a high level, playmake, and shoot. If he can put it together watch out imo


LmBkUYDA

Like half the draft lol. What crazy year


Musicferret

Gradey Dick with the Raptors. He had trouble finding his spacing in the first half of the season, made some changes, and now is looking like a solid player.


peroper7

Grades dick has a funny name but he’s genuinely good at basketball Never heard a soul bring it up here


CalidelicHaze

# 18


BG360Boi

Podzeimski easy. He’s going to fill into Klay’s role


Due_Wave_5212

Anthony Black, 6’7 point guard that plays good defense.


Total_Light_7885

A lot of people will say JJJ, but I️ would say fuck him because I️ don’t like the Heat very much


pard0nme

Kobe


Large-Lack-2933

Jaime Jasquez Jr.


BostonUH

Wemby


agentzero2020

I have no clue who Taylor Hendricks is.


childishgames

I think Bufkin could surprise. Not being talked about much but came in for Atlanta late in the year in a small role and did everything you want to see. Really active defensively and plays good on ball d. Composed offensively, gets to his spots, has nice touch in the late, can playmake a little.


jpwesche29

BP


warriorknowledge

Look at who the lakers took and then look at the next 3 picks I hate being a lakers fan. Just a total garbage incompetent franchise for my entire fandom. We got lucky lebron chose to sign with us


dpakhp

WEMBY! GOAT FOR SURE


TheBookie_55

D Lively II


WorldlinessEuphoric5

Scoot Henderson, Derrick Lively, Jamie Jaquez


Ganonthegoat

Wemby. Everyone should be calling him the future guarenteed goat


[deleted]

It’s got be Keynote George and I’m not even a Jazz fan . Look at his stats this season and how much he’s improved . Mark my words teams are going to want to trade BIG for him in a few years . He’s already showing glimpses of greatness.


Terrible-Dot9287

Wemby


AfroKuro480

Ben Shepard


atx620

Lively going 12 and then having the playoff run that he did. The returns are early, but I think he gets drafted much higher if there's a do over.


HN1L

jaquez for pick position, role and contribution. everyone else doesn’t compare under those lines.


RobbyRalston

Podz.


Errenfaxy

Wemby is likely to be underated. I know he's number one, but he's not a regular number one. Spurs got lucky af.


Jalin17

The second half of the first round is pretty impressive tbh