Simply can’t get mad at the injuries and lack of depth catching up to us. Pacers are far healthier with a deeper bench.
Win or lose this series, I’m proud of this team and their fight and heart
We don’t even have a “lack of depth” per se. At its best this team could run an 11 man rotation, problem is that four guys are out rn, no amount of depth can prepare you for three starters (two of which are the second and third best scorers AND also two of your defensive anchors) and your sixth man being hurt.
If Indy was missing Turner, Siakam, Nesmith and McConnell, how bad do you think they’d be hurting rn? Their starting lineup would be a mess and their bench would only have like three maybe four viable players remaining on it. They wouldn’t have even been able to beat a depleted Bucks team without Siakam and McConnell meanwhile we beat the Sixers without Randle and Bojan.
At the end of the day even if we were only missing Randle, this team is still an ECF level team, how many other teams in the league can say that if you took away our second best player we can still be close to making the conference finals? Not a lot that’s for sure.
Exactly. This is why “next man up” has always bothered me. Of course the team needs to have that attitude, but the next man up is the next man for a reason. It’s just so hard to overcome all of the injuries the Knicks have sustained. The series isn’t over, but this is a totally different series if the Knicks were remotely healthy.
I agree but at the same time I do hope this does not make our FO complacent in the offseason. Would like to see us address our center issues (IHart is a FA and Mitch is injury prone) as well as potentially add one more guy to our starting lineup to round the roster out.
This is the worst team we will have the next 4 years. This season is fun but the window we have will be even greater. Enjoy the ride now and when it’s done it’s done. I believe they can still pull this out.
If Brunson didn't hurt his foot we'd be up 3-1 and looking to wrap it up next game. Instead fans are already accepting them losing and moral victory. We just needed Brunson to stay healthy and we woulda been in the Eastern Conference Finals. Pacers are a mediocre scrub team they aren't as good as the Knicks full strength. We'd sweep them full strength.
There is nothing to be mad about:
Ask yourselves where a rotation of Brunson, DiVo, Hart, Precious, iHart, Deuce, Burks and Sims finishes over the course of an 82 game season.
It's literally an 11 seed roster somehow in the middle of a 2nd round series. I have never seen something like this in my entire life.
Yeah the injuries are completely catching up, Brunson can only do so much, he looks very tired. You can just tell with how short his shots were falling. Knicks will fight tho and I expect a good response from them in MSG
Y'all are being too difficult. We beat Indy without OG in the 4th Q in G2. We could (should) have won g3. We had an off game. It happens. This team can still contend with Indy.
Nuggets lost by like 40. They were healthy and not tired. And Min had no Gobert if I'm correct. This shit happens.
We just haven't happen to us in a looooong time.
No doubt. But we outplayed Pacers for a sizable portion of G3 as well. We were up 9 with I think half the 4th quarter to go.
Expecting them to bounce back. Doesn't mean we will win the series, but think tonight was more of an anomaly. Also, we have 3 days between games 5 and 6. Big.
Less sad more annoyed. The OG hamstring was the icing on this shit cake. He was the siakam defender, and hart can focus more on the perimeter defense
We have no wing defense now
Precious is a forward, not a wing. Not all Forwards are ideal to defend guards. Some forwards are wings, but not all. especially bigger ones that are quasi bigs. Even Toppin and Siakam as 4s, play a FAST game better suited for a jumbo wing.
This team has played far above their talent level all year to be a 50 win, 2 seed team. There is a ton to be proud of and every game from here on out is playing with house money
Most teams aren't built to make deep runs with 0.5/3 of their best players.
Nuggets didn't do shit when it was just Jokic and Murray and MPJ were injured.
Yeah Jokic was deadass an inch away from getting swept by the Warriors after that 1st MVP year iirc.
And he is a top 20 player of all time currently in his peak.
Our current injury situation is just something that no team could feasibly cope with.
well the same happened in 1999-2000 on those finals against the Spurs, that's the team it reminds me(yeah, i'm old):
* Chris Childs
* Allan Houston
* Latrell Sprewell
* Larry Johnson
* Marcus Camby
And just a few rotations with Dudley, Kurth Thomas, Charlie Ward, and Rick Bruson (JB's dad). Ewing spent most of the season injured.
I remember that series, no one expected Knicks to with with that squad, even me. Everyone was right.
Just like our current healthy players, if we do make it to the next round, no one expects us to beat Boston, and they are right.
Especially now that iHart has an injured shoulder.
This was a quick turnaround from Game 3 and obviously our guys are tired. An explosion like this from a run and gun team was bound to happen. We are down two starters and two main rotation pieces. Knicks in 6
Nuggets have a couple injuries but had 4 days off between games 2 and 3, look what they did to the Wolves game 3. Knicks had 1 1/2 days off and look at the results. At no point there's going to be 4 days off in this series. There's 3 days between games 5 and 6 which had the possibility of not even happening if one of the teams were swept. I just don't understand the scheduling
Knicks in 6
This makes Game 5 the most important game of the season. Win Game 5 and you can force it to a 6-7 game season and hope that OG can come back. Lose Game 5 and you most likely lose the series. What will this Knicks team choose?
Seriously, how many times in the playoffs do they show the "bench points" stat. It's like, "Yeah no shit we have zero bench points - We play five guys!"
I’ll be downvoted but I still think game 3 was the series. We win that game and we win the series. Idk how we can overcome our injuries and depth issues now.
Game one and game two victories count just as much as the game three and four losses. A one point victory is the same as a 40 point victory.
Knicks just gotta win 2 out of the next 3. Every game starts 0-0. Every day is a new day.
Guys it's my fault, I drew a picture of Lammy and Katy from *Um Jammer Lammy* in bed with the caption "They Fucked On The Knicks Bed" in impact font, thinking I would post it in celebration after winning today. God has frowned upon my handiwork, and has cast punishment for my sins.
Today was about as bad as a team can play, and about as good as a team can play on the other end of the court.
It’s a 3 game series now. Hoping we hear about OG’s status sooner than not.
Win the home games and keep fighting. That’s Knicks basketball baby
After 94 I sworeI would never let a loss tear my heart out again. In 99 I knew we didn't have a chance so I was proud of our team. This year I got very excited about our possibilities. As a realist I accept whatever happens this season with gratitude for these guys. The future looks bright for our New York Knicks.
Series ain't over but I think the takeaway from this season is this team finally found its identity. A full offseason to hopefully resign OG & Hartenstein and properly fill out the roster and hopefully truly compete starting next season.
People throwing out the Thibs ruins players card yet will fail to say that he's gotten the most out of guys like Josh Hart, Isaiah Hartenstein, Deuce McBride and even Precious Achiwua for the stretch he was hot.
Not much he could do, team wasn't talented enough with RJ & IQ then lacked the much needed depth after OG got hurt and the Pistons trade busted so no option but to over play starters.
Whatever happens, this is the most exciting time to be a Knicks fan in a decade.
Pistons trade didn't bust.
It may the the only reason Knicks can still function this post season.
Grimes ended the year hurt, totally possible he's fully out.
Bogey was huge round 1, and Burks is huge now that OG is out.
There were good shots taken in that first half they just weren’t falling. Tough loss no doubt, but let’s reset for game 5. It’s basically a 3 game series now and we have 2 of those 3 at MSG. The team needs the garden to be electric on Tuesday. This isn’t the first time the team looked dead before coming back strong.
The short turnaround from game 3 to an afternoon start in game 4 showed. 2 day rest from game 5 to game 6 will be huge. Win at the garden on Tuesday and close it out in Indy
This Knicks team has bounced back from the dead so many times this season. Let everyone count them out. We know what they are made of and I’m expecting them to come out flying at home Tuesday.
Given the injuries, the Knicks have thus far overperformed. They were not favored to win the Sixers series, even as a #2 seed, and needed a number of historic 40-point games from Jalen Brunson -- plus one legendary shot from DDV -- to do so.
Since that series, they've lost 3 rotation players, one of which is a top 5 defender in the NBA (who could also score the ball), a career 20 ppg scorer in Bogdanovich (granted, not as big a scorer off the Knicks bench, but still...), and the best offensive rebounding center in the league (who was also once our starting center).
The Pacers are basically playing against a lottery team at this point. I'd love to give them more credit, but I just... can't. They somehow lucked out by getting the Bucks without Giannis and now the Knicks without anyone but Brunson. I have not season anything in 4 games, including today's blowout, which indicates they are a great basketball team. I honestly believe if the Knicks even just had OG in this series, they would sweep the Pacers. But they don't and it is what it is.
I'm happy with what the Knicks did this season. If they can extend the season, great. But if they can't, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.
We needed to win game 3. Realistically the might finish us in 6 with all the injuries we have. As a fan though. KNICKS IN 6. NEW YORK KNICKS NUMBER ONE BABY
I'm not into making excuses, but the NBA should seriously consider abolishing early games in the postseason. Because the road team is at a severe disadvantage, especially a banged up one. The Pacers slept in their own beds Friday and Saturday, while the Knicks stayed in a hotel. They could've easily scheduled this game for 5:00 or 5:30 and still had time for Nuggets/Wolves in the nightcap. I get it they don't want to start games late on a Sunday, I get it. But c'mon man.
Just shrug this one off. But clearly Brunson is on a bum leg, and our size issues with OG and Mitch is going to kill us.
We were actually eliminated exactly one year ago today. Looks like no OG for game 5 as well, these guys are going to need a massive effort to win.
We can beat them without OG, my main concern Brunson is really not looking like himself these past two games on that foot. Shit he usually makes easily is not falling to an almost comical degree. I think he’ll come out strong though, these boys play better with their back against the wall - Knicks in 7
Let’s be honest. We needed that. We played 9 playoff games in a row that went down the wire and we played so hard in all of them. Reset is good.
We needed a clean slate. We need to take all the abuse and trash talking and burn that fuel when we run out of gas on Tuesday.
People keep saying that Pacers are a bad defensive team, if that is the case then what the hell is our defense called in this series?
We can't stop any of their big guys in the paint, we can't get offensive or defensive rebounds, we constantly give up layups and open threes.
As much as I love Ihart. He's no Mitchell Robinson on defense. He'll get a block here and there but Robinson literally intimidates people. That was a major loss for this defense.
LMAO I really wish the knicks and twolves didn't share a game day, this weekend was atrocious for me... you expect me to show up to work with a smile after this???
I really want to win this series so all of r/nba can eat their fucking words for talking so much shit since game 1. At this point I don't care if we lose the next round lol, I mean I do but it's not very likely.
Armchair quarterback gameplan changes I would make:
#1: Hartenstein and Achuwa need to be the matchup on Siakam. No more Hart. We can let Indy win the transition game, but we cannot also allow them to win in the halfcourt as well, which is happening now too easily with Hart as the matchup.
#2: Brunson can't be bringing up the ball as much as he has anymore. Others need to carry that load so Brunson can start possessions coming off screens to the ball once it's past half court.
#3: Better manipulate the pace of the game and slow it down by utilizing more timely fouls and dead ball substitutions.
#4: Have the crowd chant "Fuck Rick Carlisle" for 48 straight minutes so he knows the little bitch he is. Respect to the Indy players though. Just playing harder and better than us without being anything overtly cheap or dirty.
Anyone agree? Disagree?
LGK. Love yall.
We are so short Handed without OG so Hart is going to be on Pascal regardless at times. We could survive with Robinson but OG stings more because Hart has to guard has to guard the 4 again. Precious can only stay on the floor for so long because playing him for to long at the 4 kills the offense at times because he can not stretch the floor. I know he is a power forward but on this team I see him more as an undersized center.
Thank you . I understand we’re in no position to talk right now .
But bro , if our team is healthy . Shit even without Randle …. This series is done . They get swept . 5 games at most . So please hold this shit off for a second lol
Gonna be funny watching pacers fans act like they’re tough shit when the only reason why they’re here is because they got to face two heavily injured teams in a row lol
Everyone needs to keep in mind the pacers just played their best game of the season. And shot out of their mind. And the result of this is that they just tied the series. That’s it. That’s all that happened today. This timing on the schedule completely fucked us and we looked half dead because of it. We’ll have a more rested and ready team at home in a few days one would think.
People were downvoting me when I said the obvious about OG's impact being the most important of all the injuries so far. I want us to win, and they have it in them, but guys have to show up like they haven't before. Hoping that 4th quarter rest was enough to give us the game of their lives in the Garden. They've gotta defend a lot better than they did today. Just unacceptable.
I will say one thing though about the Pacers. Haliburton is a lot like Booker. He's a front-runner, talks a big game when he's up, and looks like a bitch when down.
Well…that happened. Game 5 is must win. Just get it done and I like us in 6/7. If they lose, momentum and head game is completely lost. Win at home. Gut it out.
it was pretty obvious the home team is going to win the game on mothers day lol a badly called 1st quarter by the refs and it was over, but we didnt do anything to help out. we better get a home whistle Tueaday
Thats some of it for sure, at least early. Whistles seemed to be a bit off to begin with as well early. Pacers got confidence from all of that and Knicks just seemed to compound problems out of frustration and it was over before half time.
The loss of OG is also hurting us as we just don’t have someone who can guard Siakim. Not to mention his length, speed, and general defensive skills make our team so much better with his ability to rotate so well and guard pacers 1-5.
Im not annoyed. They are just exhausted, undermanned. But what got me today was the first time I’ve seen them so totally hopeless. The grit that has defined them just couldn’t be summoned today. It’s an outlier. But, Indiana has figured out a defense against Brunson. Thibs needs to break the pressure. We can only win with our offense. Our defense against this movement is simply poor.
I think and I hope that the defense they’ve gotten away with these games is called different at home because they reach grab and foul every single play
Why tf is Bill Pidto doing a MSG 150 on a playoff postgame like it’s a mid January game? We all know who won the rest of the playoff games.
Give me more Knick player interviews.
The postgame show if filled with commercials and interviews of the other team.
# Crazy thought for game 5: Start Burks at SF and have Deuce and Precious coming off the bench.
Deuce starting makes the lineup too small, and Precious starting creates real spacing issues. Burks has shown he has something left in the tank. Brunson needs three-point shooters to give Brunson floor spacing when he goes inside. I also believe we need to play Simms for 5-7 minutes per game, painful as that is. OG is not coming back this series, so the Knicks need to adjust
The good thing about a mid day game is the boys have a chance to get back home and rest up from the road trip and then a full day of rest tomorrow before game 5. Hope they are heading home tonight instead of spending the night in Indy
just one game. Not worried about this loss at all. pacers won’t be able to replicate that miracle ball from the first quarter. pacer defense is still almost non-existent. Knicks’ had numerous open shots just not falling, very fatigued.
LETS GO KNICKS
stg the r/nba game threads be full of bots or something. Just coming in with preloaded lines about Thibs' minutes like they can't read an injury report. There is like no critical thinking at all over there.
fr, I understand not wanting to expand the rotation in the sixers series (although precious played well and never got minutes again), but it should've been the priority to expand the rotation coming into this series.
The Knicks have to sign a big in the off season that can stretch the floor. Indy has 3-4 of them which is another reason why they are able to open up their offense more. You have to respect them from deep..
TNT guys are going to be happy tonight.
When the Knicks win, crickets, they fill the broadcast with handing out stupid Coach Of The Year awards like Grammys and talking to Candace Parker about her retirement, like anyone cares.
shouldn't care about the narrative but it's annoying despite everything there are so many false narratives. people still harping on refs and game 1 when game 3 was brutal in favor of the pacers. brunson is hurt but there's a false narrative that the pacers figured him out or something. little to no mention of the knicks missing like 5 of their rotation players and MVP being clearly hobbled.
again i shouldn't care but the narrative should be praising the knicks for even being in this position despite all the injuries.
Simply can’t get mad at the injuries and lack of depth catching up to us. Pacers are far healthier with a deeper bench. Win or lose this series, I’m proud of this team and their fight and heart
We don’t even have a “lack of depth” per se. At its best this team could run an 11 man rotation, problem is that four guys are out rn, no amount of depth can prepare you for three starters (two of which are the second and third best scorers AND also two of your defensive anchors) and your sixth man being hurt. If Indy was missing Turner, Siakam, Nesmith and McConnell, how bad do you think they’d be hurting rn? Their starting lineup would be a mess and their bench would only have like three maybe four viable players remaining on it. They wouldn’t have even been able to beat a depleted Bucks team without Siakam and McConnell meanwhile we beat the Sixers without Randle and Bojan. At the end of the day even if we were only missing Randle, this team is still an ECF level team, how many other teams in the league can say that if you took away our second best player we can still be close to making the conference finals? Not a lot that’s for sure.
Yep. If we were fully healthy and they miss those players they'd be getting swept. Still believe in our guys onto the next one
If this team was fully healthy precious and burks would be the tenth and 11th man in this rotation. The depth is there. We’re pushing it to the limit.
Exactly. This is why “next man up” has always bothered me. Of course the team needs to have that attitude, but the next man up is the next man for a reason. It’s just so hard to overcome all of the injuries the Knicks have sustained. The series isn’t over, but this is a totally different series if the Knicks were remotely healthy.
Pacers only have a deeper bench *because* of the injuries. Full-15 we're maybe the deepest team in the league.
Not maybe. Definitely.
Me too. Im proud of this squad and I think they have a bright future. We’re banged up.
I agree but at the same time I do hope this does not make our FO complacent in the offseason. Would like to see us address our center issues (IHart is a FA and Mitch is injury prone) as well as potentially add one more guy to our starting lineup to round the roster out.
Agreed, but on the bright side I think they've given us reason to believe that they know what they're doing when it comes to team building.
This is the worst team we will have the next 4 years. This season is fun but the window we have will be even greater. Enjoy the ride now and when it’s done it’s done. I believe they can still pull this out.
If Brunson didn't hurt his foot we'd be up 3-1 and looking to wrap it up next game. Instead fans are already accepting them losing and moral victory. We just needed Brunson to stay healthy and we woulda been in the Eastern Conference Finals. Pacers are a mediocre scrub team they aren't as good as the Knicks full strength. We'd sweep them full strength.
Not the first time this year we’ve had our backs against the wall, and we haven’t quit yet. Game 5 at the Garden, we can do it.
I agree. But our backs are not against rhe wall. We have 2 games at home left. Just win at the garden and done.
Pacers scurred
There is nothing to be mad about: Ask yourselves where a rotation of Brunson, DiVo, Hart, Precious, iHart, Deuce, Burks and Sims finishes over the course of an 82 game season. It's literally an 11 seed roster somehow in the middle of a 2nd round series. I have never seen something like this in my entire life.
Yeah the injuries are completely catching up, Brunson can only do so much, he looks very tired. You can just tell with how short his shots were falling. Knicks will fight tho and I expect a good response from them in MSG
Just get this to 7 somehow with a bullshit shooting night from 3 and pray that Brunson goes off for 60 in MSG. That's deadass our only route now.
Yeah the 3 point shooting from the Knicks tonight was fucking abysmal, we won’t be that cold in the next game
Good day to be terrible and have them be amazing. Has to average out.
Legit looked like pacers had a fucking magent on that ball, every 3 (even the one they chucked up in the first quarter) just went in
Y'all are being too difficult. We beat Indy without OG in the 4th Q in G2. We could (should) have won g3. We had an off game. It happens. This team can still contend with Indy. Nuggets lost by like 40. They were healthy and not tired. And Min had no Gobert if I'm correct. This shit happens. We just haven't happen to us in a looooong time.
Big difference between winning a quarter without OG and an entire game.
No doubt. But we outplayed Pacers for a sizable portion of G3 as well. We were up 9 with I think half the 4th quarter to go. Expecting them to bounce back. Doesn't mean we will win the series, but think tonight was more of an anomaly. Also, we have 3 days between games 5 and 6. Big.
Win game 6 and all the pressure immediately goes back onto the Pacers in an elimination game. Can still win in 6
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Less sad more annoyed. The OG hamstring was the icing on this shit cake. He was the siakam defender, and hart can focus more on the perimeter defense We have no wing defense now
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Precious is a forward, not a wing. Not all Forwards are ideal to defend guards. Some forwards are wings, but not all. especially bigger ones that are quasi bigs. Even Toppin and Siakam as 4s, play a FAST game better suited for a jumbo wing.
Exactly. Understanding why doesn’t change the fact just want to curse at the sky for a couple minutes. Games been over less than 10 minutes.
This team has played far above their talent level all year to be a 50 win, 2 seed team. There is a ton to be proud of and every game from here on out is playing with house money
Most teams aren't built to make deep runs with 0.5/3 of their best players. Nuggets didn't do shit when it was just Jokic and Murray and MPJ were injured.
Yeah Jokic was deadass an inch away from getting swept by the Warriors after that 1st MVP year iirc. And he is a top 20 player of all time currently in his peak. Our current injury situation is just something that no team could feasibly cope with.
well the same happened in 1999-2000 on those finals against the Spurs, that's the team it reminds me(yeah, i'm old): * Chris Childs * Allan Houston * Latrell Sprewell * Larry Johnson * Marcus Camby And just a few rotations with Dudley, Kurth Thomas, Charlie Ward, and Rick Bruson (JB's dad). Ewing spent most of the season injured.
I remember that series, no one expected Knicks to with with that squad, even me. Everyone was right. Just like our current healthy players, if we do make it to the next round, no one expects us to beat Boston, and they are right. Especially now that iHart has an injured shoulder.
What time does game 4 start?
Tuesday. Can't play basketball on Mother's Day!
LMAO WORD! Knicksin5 😅
For those who prefer black comedy, 34% from the floor at 19% from 3 is comically bad.
The weirdest part of the loss was just how frequently we missed open 3s
Man, Pacers fans are annoying but the Sixers fans in that thread were fucking pathetic. Bunch of soft ass losers.
its all they have, I rather them bitch at game threads than sixers win the series
Good think is any type of loss counts as 1 loss, lick your wounds and move on.
We absolutely broke them. I love that we did that to a Philly team.
This was a quick turnaround from Game 3 and obviously our guys are tired. An explosion like this from a run and gun team was bound to happen. We are down two starters and two main rotation pieces. Knicks in 6
We didn't lose by 50 🤷🏻♂️ Let's hope we come out breathing fire in MSG and give those smug faces a whopping.
Shooting 7-37 for 3 is just fucking insane
alex scored as much as tyrese... it ain't that bad.
Diakite DETONATES for 2 points, 1 rebound, 1 steal, and 1 block in valiant effort vs pacers
And a technical!
dont forget 1 tech 😂
I thought his name was mbah-a-moutay?
The real shame is losing on that crazy 3 Friday. Injuries are catching up but I know they’ll come out strong and play well Tuesday.
That was the big one. But no use playing what if right
Yeah that was the one to steal. We can still win without a steal.
Nuggets have a couple injuries but had 4 days off between games 2 and 3, look what they did to the Wolves game 3. Knicks had 1 1/2 days off and look at the results. At no point there's going to be 4 days off in this series. There's 3 days between games 5 and 6 which had the possibility of not even happening if one of the teams were swept. I just don't understand the scheduling Knicks in 6
How the hell did they get so many days off?We literally get 1 day rest between every game
This is what I keep coming back too as well, how did we have more time in between games when we played a team that's a 2 hour drive away from us??
Yea I was looking at that. They started the series on a Saturday and we started on Monday and yet we on the same schedule as them.
 I just want a full team man
This makes Game 5 the most important game of the season. Win Game 5 and you can force it to a 6-7 game season and hope that OG can come back. Lose Game 5 and you most likely lose the series. What will this Knicks team choose?
I mean OG will not come back this series, just have to hope for another couple of fluke nights from 3
Obviously. And after game 5, game 6 will be the most important game, and then game 7 if necessary…
OG hasn’t even started running yet.Slim chance he comes back this week.
Really don’t see OG returning this series.
They gonna clown on us for not having a bench. My brother in Christ the bench is starting these games
Seriously, how many times in the playoffs do they show the "bench points" stat. It's like, "Yeah no shit we have zero bench points - We play five guys!"
Half were the bench! Ihart and hart were bench players!!!
this is the bench lmfao
Still confident in our guys. One game isn't the end of the world.
Coulda been 3-1
I’ll be downvoted but I still think game 3 was the series. We win that game and we win the series. Idk how we can overcome our injuries and depth issues now.
I said this too and idk either. If there’s any group of guys that can do it it’s these but idk
26-5 with OG 13-17 without OG
Game one and game two victories count just as much as the game three and four losses. A one point victory is the same as a 40 point victory. Knicks just gotta win 2 out of the next 3. Every game starts 0-0. Every day is a new day.
I need another drink
That guy with the cats on the Knicks blanket... This one's on you. 😂
Time to put those cats down
Too far
Dude with the cats and the hoodie better throw that hoodie out (or the cats).
Start Burks.. Next game sub him out with Mcbride...
Guys it's my fault, I drew a picture of Lammy and Katy from *Um Jammer Lammy* in bed with the caption "They Fucked On The Knicks Bed" in impact font, thinking I would post it in celebration after winning today. God has frowned upon my handiwork, and has cast punishment for my sins.
Burn that picture to be safe, Then redraw it AFTER we win in Games 5 and 6
Losing OG could be the last straw. The Knicks record with him speaks for itself.
Hard to believe we can win this series without OG
Today was about as bad as a team can play, and about as good as a team can play on the other end of the court. It’s a 3 game series now. Hoping we hear about OG’s status sooner than not. Win the home games and keep fighting. That’s Knicks basketball baby
After 94 I sworeI would never let a loss tear my heart out again. In 99 I knew we didn't have a chance so I was proud of our team. This year I got very excited about our possibilities. As a realist I accept whatever happens this season with gratitude for these guys. The future looks bright for our New York Knicks.
Series ain't over but I think the takeaway from this season is this team finally found its identity. A full offseason to hopefully resign OG & Hartenstein and properly fill out the roster and hopefully truly compete starting next season. People throwing out the Thibs ruins players card yet will fail to say that he's gotten the most out of guys like Josh Hart, Isaiah Hartenstein, Deuce McBride and even Precious Achiwua for the stretch he was hot. Not much he could do, team wasn't talented enough with RJ & IQ then lacked the much needed depth after OG got hurt and the Pistons trade busted so no option but to over play starters. Whatever happens, this is the most exciting time to be a Knicks fan in a decade.
Pistons trade didn't bust. It may the the only reason Knicks can still function this post season. Grimes ended the year hurt, totally possible he's fully out. Bogey was huge round 1, and Burks is huge now that OG is out.
I am relieved haliburton is looking well and not injured, will have no excused when he loses at MSG 😀 also alec burks meaningful minutes, again!
Glad Alec is doing some stuff in the playoffs and not giving us donuts
What’s idiotic is they listed Hali-poo as questionable for this game with THREE separate injuries. Oh, boo hoo. Nick Nurse playbook level bullshit
There were good shots taken in that first half they just weren’t falling. Tough loss no doubt, but let’s reset for game 5. It’s basically a 3 game series now and we have 2 of those 3 at MSG. The team needs the garden to be electric on Tuesday. This isn’t the first time the team looked dead before coming back strong.
Looks like Hart has to go back to Indiana again.
To everyone going to the next game: bring your best, your loudest, and whatever charms you have- the team needs some MSG magic.
Unpopular opinion but that was not my favorite game this season
Brave
Damn we really should've won game 3
Don’t watch sports media for the next two days. I still believe our guys can dig deep at MSG.
omg Im avoiding it like the plague, which just frees up my time a bit more so thats not so bad hah. I'd only listen to Alan and Wally at this point.
yep. everyone gonna say its over
Horrible effort and performance. I’d be ok with we closed Game 3, but now we’re in the shits.
All good, defend home court on Tuesday
Welp can't win a game if you can't score or defend for shit, lets redeem ourselves in the garden please
The short turnaround from game 3 to an afternoon start in game 4 showed. 2 day rest from game 5 to game 6 will be huge. Win at the garden on Tuesday and close it out in Indy
31 FTs for us and only 8 for them lol. Indy gonna run with that
Even if the Knicks lose this series; dicking down the Sixers and ending the process was enough satisfaction to last a lifetime. Go Rangers
Tuesday come now!
Right. I'm far from dooming. We know that wasn't the normal Knicks out there today. Let's get some home cooking on Tuesday.
This Knicks team has bounced back from the dead so many times this season. Let everyone count them out. We know what they are made of and I’m expecting them to come out flying at home Tuesday.
Given the injuries, the Knicks have thus far overperformed. They were not favored to win the Sixers series, even as a #2 seed, and needed a number of historic 40-point games from Jalen Brunson -- plus one legendary shot from DDV -- to do so. Since that series, they've lost 3 rotation players, one of which is a top 5 defender in the NBA (who could also score the ball), a career 20 ppg scorer in Bogdanovich (granted, not as big a scorer off the Knicks bench, but still...), and the best offensive rebounding center in the league (who was also once our starting center). The Pacers are basically playing against a lottery team at this point. I'd love to give them more credit, but I just... can't. They somehow lucked out by getting the Bucks without Giannis and now the Knicks without anyone but Brunson. I have not season anything in 4 games, including today's blowout, which indicates they are a great basketball team. I honestly believe if the Knicks even just had OG in this series, they would sweep the Pacers. But they don't and it is what it is. I'm happy with what the Knicks did this season. If they can extend the season, great. But if they can't, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.
We lose back to back games for the first time this post season and the trolls are all out lol
sadly most of those trolls are Pacer fans
We needed to win game 3. Realistically the might finish us in 6 with all the injuries we have. As a fan though. KNICKS IN 6. NEW YORK KNICKS NUMBER ONE BABY
Knicks in 6 baby
Idc if you're a knicks fan, lakers fan, pacers fan, kings fan, or a cavs fan, you're pathetic if you comment in other teams' subs and game threads
Well this is not looking good. Pressure is on
I'm not into making excuses, but the NBA should seriously consider abolishing early games in the postseason. Because the road team is at a severe disadvantage, especially a banged up one. The Pacers slept in their own beds Friday and Saturday, while the Knicks stayed in a hotel. They could've easily scheduled this game for 5:00 or 5:30 and still had time for Nuggets/Wolves in the nightcap. I get it they don't want to start games late on a Sunday, I get it. But c'mon man.
Yeah this was bs scheduling but we gotta recover.
Burks generational game ig 💀💀 Hope our guys rest up and come back for game 5
Just shrug this one off. But clearly Brunson is on a bum leg, and our size issues with OG and Mitch is going to kill us. We were actually eliminated exactly one year ago today. Looks like no OG for game 5 as well, these guys are going to need a massive effort to win.
Let’s all pretend this shit didn’t happen Let’s get it Tuesday
I mean if we have OG we win this series no doubt in my mind. With this current roster I honestly don’t know
We can beat them without OG, my main concern Brunson is really not looking like himself these past two games on that foot. Shit he usually makes easily is not falling to an almost comical degree. I think he’ll come out strong though, these boys play better with their back against the wall - Knicks in 7
Pacers scurred to come back to NYC
Don't give up on this team
We were just gassed. We’ll be good next game with the Garden electrifying the team.
It’s undersold how big of a fucking moron whoever laid out this post season schedule is.
Let’s be honest. We needed that. We played 9 playoff games in a row that went down the wire and we played so hard in all of them. Reset is good. We needed a clean slate. We need to take all the abuse and trash talking and burn that fuel when we run out of gas on Tuesday.
People keep saying that Pacers are a bad defensive team, if that is the case then what the hell is our defense called in this series? We can't stop any of their big guys in the paint, we can't get offensive or defensive rebounds, we constantly give up layups and open threes.
As much as I love Ihart. He's no Mitchell Robinson on defense. He'll get a block here and there but Robinson literally intimidates people. That was a major loss for this defense.
Mitch was a tremendous loss. Effin Embiid.
fr like how are we not able to stop tj
Well, today was a fucking disaster.
OMG, I just saw the player stats lmao. Hart, iHart and Devo combined for 13 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists. Burks stole their skills!
They will bounce back, they always do.
teams I root for this playoffs really getting blown out the same fcking day. what a day.
LMAO I really wish the knicks and twolves didn't share a game day, this weekend was atrocious for me... you expect me to show up to work with a smile after this???
I really want to win this series so all of r/nba can eat their fucking words for talking so much shit since game 1. At this point I don't care if we lose the next round lol, I mean I do but it's not very likely.
Armchair quarterback gameplan changes I would make: #1: Hartenstein and Achuwa need to be the matchup on Siakam. No more Hart. We can let Indy win the transition game, but we cannot also allow them to win in the halfcourt as well, which is happening now too easily with Hart as the matchup. #2: Brunson can't be bringing up the ball as much as he has anymore. Others need to carry that load so Brunson can start possessions coming off screens to the ball once it's past half court. #3: Better manipulate the pace of the game and slow it down by utilizing more timely fouls and dead ball substitutions. #4: Have the crowd chant "Fuck Rick Carlisle" for 48 straight minutes so he knows the little bitch he is. Respect to the Indy players though. Just playing harder and better than us without being anything overtly cheap or dirty. Anyone agree? Disagree? LGK. Love yall.
We are so short Handed without OG so Hart is going to be on Pascal regardless at times. We could survive with Robinson but OG stings more because Hart has to guard has to guard the 4 again. Precious can only stay on the floor for so long because playing him for to long at the 4 kills the offense at times because he can not stretch the floor. I know he is a power forward but on this team I see him more as an undersized center.
I have to give INDY a ton of credit. They have a deep team that can go a legit 10-12 deep. Good job by their scouting department..
They have legit done a great job team building - their pieces collectively fit really well.
Bruh they'd have lost in 5 if Giannis was healthy lol.
If Giannis and Dame were healthy, the Knicks would be playing a healthy Giannis and Dame instead of the Pacers right now.
Yes that is exactly my point.
Thank you . I understand we’re in no position to talk right now . But bro , if our team is healthy . Shit even without Randle …. This series is done . They get swept . 5 games at most . So please hold this shit off for a second lol
Ick. Embarrass them back at the Garden.
That game was pathetic. That's really all I got.
God, Allah, Buddah, voodoo, or whomever else I’m missing. Someone talk to one of them to get OG back…
Anyone in this sub practice the dark arts?
Gonna be funny watching pacers fans act like they’re tough shit when the only reason why they’re here is because they got to face two heavily injured teams in a row lol
Everyone needs to keep in mind the pacers just played their best game of the season. And shot out of their mind. And the result of this is that they just tied the series. That’s it. That’s all that happened today. This timing on the schedule completely fucked us and we looked half dead because of it. We’ll have a more rested and ready team at home in a few days one would think.
Dang, I was hoping for at least 90 points.
We can still win this series!!!
So this is how the bucks felt. Should have been an easy sweep if there was no injuries. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Well my expectations rest of the way can’t get any lower now
i think a starting 5 of ihart, hart, burks, divo, brunson would be the best starting 5 we can do at this point
People were downvoting me when I said the obvious about OG's impact being the most important of all the injuries so far. I want us to win, and they have it in them, but guys have to show up like they haven't before. Hoping that 4th quarter rest was enough to give us the game of their lives in the Garden. They've gotta defend a lot better than they did today. Just unacceptable. I will say one thing though about the Pacers. Haliburton is a lot like Booker. He's a front-runner, talks a big game when he's up, and looks like a bitch when down.
Well…that happened. Game 5 is must win. Just get it done and I like us in 6/7. If they lose, momentum and head game is completely lost. Win at home. Gut it out.
Welps a bad game follow up with a crazy Villanova take over game 6
it was pretty obvious the home team is going to win the game on mothers day lol a badly called 1st quarter by the refs and it was over, but we didnt do anything to help out. we better get a home whistle Tueaday
This game felt like they hit hard shots and we missed easy ones. Happens.
Thats some of it for sure, at least early. Whistles seemed to be a bit off to begin with as well early. Pacers got confidence from all of that and Knicks just seemed to compound problems out of frustration and it was over before half time. The loss of OG is also hurting us as we just don’t have someone who can guard Siakim. Not to mention his length, speed, and general defensive skills make our team so much better with his ability to rotate so well and guard pacers 1-5.
Hali shooting endless threes while up 30+ points will not please the Basketball Gods
Pacers get to play two heavily injured teams back to back you really cant make this kind of luck up
Im not annoyed. They are just exhausted, undermanned. But what got me today was the first time I’ve seen them so totally hopeless. The grit that has defined them just couldn’t be summoned today. It’s an outlier. But, Indiana has figured out a defense against Brunson. Thibs needs to break the pressure. We can only win with our offense. Our defense against this movement is simply poor.
I think and I hope that the defense they’ve gotten away with these games is called different at home because they reach grab and foul every single play
Sucks to have a decent-to-good shot potentially ruined by injury
Let’s relax the ONLY thing that happened is that they held home court. Game 5 is at MSG we tag them back.
Agreed. They don’t get an extra win because they thumped us. It looks less promising but Indiana isn’t good on the road
I'm ok with the lost... Jb and divo.. Blasting next game
Why tf is Bill Pidto doing a MSG 150 on a playoff postgame like it’s a mid January game? We all know who won the rest of the playoff games. Give me more Knick player interviews. The postgame show if filled with commercials and interviews of the other team.
OG needs to find his way back o. Tuesday.
# Crazy thought for game 5: Start Burks at SF and have Deuce and Precious coming off the bench. Deuce starting makes the lineup too small, and Precious starting creates real spacing issues. Burks has shown he has something left in the tank. Brunson needs three-point shooters to give Brunson floor spacing when he goes inside. I also believe we need to play Simms for 5-7 minutes per game, painful as that is. OG is not coming back this series, so the Knicks need to adjust
The good thing about a mid day game is the boys have a chance to get back home and rest up from the road trip and then a full day of rest tomorrow before game 5. Hope they are heading home tonight instead of spending the night in Indy
pretty sure they want to get the hell out of that weird place
Midwest hellhole!!!
Well this is less than ideal
Shout out to the people that thought we could win a playoff series in 5 without our entire starting front court lol.
just one game. Not worried about this loss at all. pacers won’t be able to replicate that miracle ball from the first quarter. pacer defense is still almost non-existent. Knicks’ had numerous open shots just not falling, very fatigued. LETS GO KNICKS
stg the r/nba game threads be full of bots or something. Just coming in with preloaded lines about Thibs' minutes like they can't read an injury report. There is like no critical thinking at all over there.
Chuck is right 100%
fr, I understand not wanting to expand the rotation in the sixers series (although precious played well and never got minutes again), but it should've been the priority to expand the rotation coming into this series.
we say this a lot after bad losses and maybe im forgetting a few games but rn i really can’t remember a worst loss than this given the circumstances
Embarrassing. Even with half our rotation out.
The Knicks have to sign a big in the off season that can stretch the floor. Indy has 3-4 of them which is another reason why they are able to open up their offense more. You have to respect them from deep..
If you got nothing nice to say then don't say nothing So Fuck Reggie Miller
0-0 game to 1
TNT guys are going to be happy tonight. When the Knicks win, crickets, they fill the broadcast with handing out stupid Coach Of The Year awards like Grammys and talking to Candace Parker about her retirement, like anyone cares.
My wish is we just shush up the haters and win this best of 3
Can we just delete this thread and just forget this game?
No, let people vent.
shouldn't care about the narrative but it's annoying despite everything there are so many false narratives. people still harping on refs and game 1 when game 3 was brutal in favor of the pacers. brunson is hurt but there's a false narrative that the pacers figured him out or something. little to no mention of the knicks missing like 5 of their rotation players and MVP being clearly hobbled. again i shouldn't care but the narrative should be praising the knicks for even being in this position despite all the injuries.
agreed and it is irritating
Proud of this team. Thank you new york knicks! We will be back stronger and a complete roster.