It's not just that.
The guy then drank it, then shat himself. But he kept drinking the milk, each time not being able to fully digest it. His entire tribe did, for generations.
See, in order to evolve the trait that lets us process diary in the adult phase of life, we needed _constant_ evolutionary pressure to evolve this trait, which means constant exposure to diary.
People were often desperate for food in ancient times and would eat weird shit during famines. There are people in modern Haiti eating mass produced "dirt cookies" (that is literally baked dirt with salt and sugar mixed in to hide the taste) so repeatedly ignoring diarrhea from dairy to alleviate hunger is not that surprising.
That's not how it works.
It probably was like
Ancient populations drink milk, get sick, but keep doing it
Some people mutate and can drink milk without getting sick.
People with the mutation have offspring.
The offspring usually have more offspring than not mutant population.
Repeat until most of the population have the mutation.
?????
Profit
The way it probably went:
Young children can drink non-human milk and are generally okay. So the ancients discovered a food source they can feed the kids leaving slightly more of the other food for adults. Domestication begins. Over generations and generations and - etc, you get it - some children begin being able to drink milk longer and longer as they get older. Eventually you have some groups who can drink milk as adults and some who never get that mutation, and some of us who can drink milk into young adulthood, but then lose the ability as full grown adults.
Also, somewhere in there someone figured out if you let milk rot it becomes and edible solid food that even more adults can enjoy (though again, there are still those that cannot).
That's only if one has the gene that allows that to happen.
A lot of non-European genetic groups do not have it, so no matter what they do they'll never be able to properly digest lactose into adulthood
Except evidence suggests that human ate cheese before we started drinking milk (cheese has very little lactose, making it perfect to eat while the species developed a tolerance)
Meaning that one guy looked at how a calf squeezed it, tried some for himself, *got sick* because early humans were lactose intolerant, let it curdle and rot in a bucket, and then came back and said "I wonder what that foul smelling thing tastes like?"
Hilariously, based on genetic testing of ancient remains and residue testing of ancient food containers humans were consuming dairy products millenia before they developed lactose tolerance.
Lactose tolerance is a genetic mutation which is present mostly in europeans. In africa nearly everyone is intolerant and i dont think they have much antibiotics there.
"Theres no difference between races" mfs when the Sun people can survive sun better, milk people can drink ambrosia and the easterlings can see in frigid dust storms better.
Back when food was a lot harder to get, you’d put up with a lot more. Hell, the reason spices were so desirable into the colonial period was because the seasoning would cover the taste of when food started to rot
Probably cows were milked alredy to prevent mastitis, someone just put something to hold the liquid under the udder and drank it, now cheese and butter probably have nasty origin stories
I mean, humans lactate too. That person probably saw a woman giving milk to a baby, figured out tits produce milk and then figured out that cows have tits.
My mental funny on that one has always been this:
Venlil: eating strayu
Arxur: eating steak
Human: brings in cheese, explains what it is
Venlil and Arxur: loose their appitite
Human: makes a cheesesteak
Venlil and arxur: \*looks on in abject horror\*
If I recall correctly, the feces method hasn't been used in Europe since the middle ages. I think there's still a few tanneries in the Middle East doing it. And assuming that chair is patent leather (the shiny kind) instead of medieval "I am a peasant soldier who wants armor but can't afford anything made of metal" buff leather, the traditional method for patent leather involves a mixture of linseed oil and lampblack/some other strong, dark dye, but everyone's used polyurethane since, like, the 50s.
Sources:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent\_leather](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_leather)
[https://blackstockleather.com/history-of-the-leather-tanning-industry/#:\~:text=In%20the%20bating%20stage%2C%20tanners,skin%20and%20made%20it%20supple](https://blackstockleather.com/history-of-the-leather-tanning-industry/#:~:text=In%20the%20bating%20stage%2C%20tanners,skin%20and%20made%20it%20supple)
[https://nonstoptravelling.com/2017/02/15/leather-tanning-pigeon-poop-and-palaces-in-fez-morocco/](https://nonstoptravelling.com/2017/02/15/leather-tanning-pigeon-poop-and-palaces-in-fez-morocco/)
P.S. Fun fact: The most common type of feces used in medieval Europe was dog shit. The Middle Eastern tanneries use pigeon guano.
Very comfortably my hind end.
Actually, no, it might be comfortable for an arxur since they *don't sweat*. But whoever THOUGHT of leather upholstery deserves to stub their toe.
For real, gods, I hate leather upholstery D:
But man, people will try anything to see what works, really.
Gut strings are expensive as hell, I prefer metal overwraps, they're a lot cheaper and you can still get some really good ones. And yeah the bow hair is horse tail hair.
I never get the people who have problems with relatively harm free animal products. Like that wool wasn’t harvested with pain and blood, I mean, maybe if the sheep was being really rambunctious but the point is that stuff like a violin bow didn’t kill anything it was just trimming some hair.
Even with the stuff that is harvested by killing the animal, there’s not specific cows for leather that’s coming from beef cows or dairy cows that have started declining and go to the butcher because the dairy wouldn’t afford to keep them in the herd longer. And we use everything from the animal, we don’t waste their death. You could almost say American (at the least, Idk enough to say all humanities,) culture views it as thankless not to be as efficient with the remains of an animal as possible. Dairy cows are the most pampered of livestock. Pigs fall short of that because they are kept in prison like pens for their own good in the bigger operations. Beef cows in California get to spend most their life before their harvested protected from coyotes on green rolling hills, Small farms, mom and Pop Farms, generate income from several different sources and are more likely to handle keeping cattle till the end of their natural life. The torturing animals narrative doesn’t hold up when farms are messing around with making the animals happier by having VR headsets strapped to them. Also, if there’s an abused brush wheel in any footage of a cow farm, that’s a sign the cows are happy.
Honestly, those two reacting to the reasoning behind cow brushes would be interesting.
“You automated giving them scratches?!”
Edited for her grammar and less late night Tumblr mistakes.
Yeah I see it as just pure disrespect if you kill an animal and don't use every single last milligram of it for something useful. And that's from a South African, not a American or Eurocentric perspective. And it's the factory farms that justifiably get criticism for their cruelty.
Brains is old fashioned but now we use acid to kill bacteria that rots it and tanning solution to preserve it. No feces involved from what I know
- a taxidermist
Brain tanning is an ancient method that was largely used by the Native Americans; and was a simple, if rather effort intensive, method to do it. Interestingly, animals usually have enough brain to tan their own hide, bison are apparently a notable exception. And dog scat was used on an industrial scale in Victorian Britain, with collecting it being a rather well paying job for the time from what I can find.
What happened is that ancient man discovered that furs used for clothing and bedding that were pissed on and thoroughly abused actually didn't crack and mold like the other ones. So they started 'treating leather' by soaking it in piss and smashing and stretching it until all the hair fell out and it got really soft and supple.
Fun fact: Modern leather tanneries use enzymes from papayas to achieve the same effect, and have done so for quite a while, so the human is just messing with his friends
Tanning was dirty business. So dirty in fact, most cities in medieval Europe relegated their tanners to the edge of town so they wouldn't contaminate any drinking water.
Love the look on the Arxurs face thats a mix of horror and realization
Humans are wierd man, how do you think milk from cows were discovered
The man who discovered it...he's got some explaining to do
Naaah... One guy just looked how a calf squeezed it, wondered if it will come out if he did so instead, and now we all can have milk and cereal...
Stop ruining my head cannon of historican weirdness!!
Sowwy! XD
It's not just that. The guy then drank it, then shat himself. But he kept drinking the milk, each time not being able to fully digest it. His entire tribe did, for generations. See, in order to evolve the trait that lets us process diary in the adult phase of life, we needed _constant_ evolutionary pressure to evolve this trait, which means constant exposure to diary.
People were often desperate for food in ancient times and would eat weird shit during famines. There are people in modern Haiti eating mass produced "dirt cookies" (that is literally baked dirt with salt and sugar mixed in to hide the taste) so repeatedly ignoring diarrhea from dairy to alleviate hunger is not that surprising.
That's not how it works. It probably was like Ancient populations drink milk, get sick, but keep doing it Some people mutate and can drink milk without getting sick. People with the mutation have offspring. The offspring usually have more offspring than not mutant population. Repeat until most of the population have the mutation. ????? Profit
That's literally evolutionary pressure. The mutation requires MANY generations to occur most likely, and more to establish itself as the norm.
The way it probably went: Young children can drink non-human milk and are generally okay. So the ancients discovered a food source they can feed the kids leaving slightly more of the other food for adults. Domestication begins. Over generations and generations and - etc, you get it - some children begin being able to drink milk longer and longer as they get older. Eventually you have some groups who can drink milk as adults and some who never get that mutation, and some of us who can drink milk into young adulthood, but then lose the ability as full grown adults. Also, somewhere in there someone figured out if you let milk rot it becomes and edible solid food that even more adults can enjoy (though again, there are still those that cannot).
My bad, I misunderstood, I thought you mean something like Lamarck evolution model.
Its only evolutionary pressure if it curbs the ability to procreate or makes it easier.
Which extra food ALWAYS does in a "wild" setting
I heard about this, i just gave an abridged version...
Don't you maintain your ability to digest milk if you keep having milk from the time you're a baby?
That's only if one has the gene that allows that to happen. A lot of non-European genetic groups do not have it, so no matter what they do they'll never be able to properly digest lactose into adulthood
Not unless they put themselves under evolutionary pressure
Or if they do as Thought Emporium did and splice in the gene that codes for lactase.
> non-European genetic groups Cheese and yogurt come from Asia, particular the middle east.
Except evidence suggests that human ate cheese before we started drinking milk (cheese has very little lactose, making it perfect to eat while the species developed a tolerance) Meaning that one guy looked at how a calf squeezed it, tried some for himself, *got sick* because early humans were lactose intolerant, let it curdle and rot in a bucket, and then came back and said "I wonder what that foul smelling thing tastes like?"
You skipped the step where we came up with weird sex hang ups before we got to the cereal.
Hilariously, based on genetic testing of ancient remains and residue testing of ancient food containers humans were consuming dairy products millenia before they developed lactose tolerance.
When the choice is "food that gives you runny shits and awful gas" or "starve to death", it's not too crazy that people chose option 1.
"Uh, are you sure it's safe to drink from that?" "I mean, it kinda hurts and I shit uncontrollably for a bit, but I'm not dead yet."
Lactose intolerance hurts? I only get runny shit and fart a bit more if I drink unpasteurised milk.
It depends, it can cause mild cramps and discomfort but not always.
Humans are the masters of self abuse, always were, always will be
Better runny shits than no shits.
Kids still make latase and could drink milk regardless. Cheese and yogurt lower the amount of lactose in the final product.
What if lactose intolerance among other issues we have in the modern era is due to use of oral antibiotics?
Its not. It's well studied.
Lactose tolerance is a genetic mutation which is present mostly in europeans. In africa nearly everyone is intolerant and i dont think they have much antibiotics there.
Sun people have their protection against sky fire, but they cannot digest ambrosia we milk people take for granted.
"Theres no difference between races" mfs when the Sun people can survive sun better, milk people can drink ambrosia and the easterlings can see in frigid dust storms better.
Hungry people will try anything if they get desperate enough.
Do not even get me started on our weird milk fixation. The word GALAXY is from milk.
Back when food was a lot harder to get, you’d put up with a lot more. Hell, the reason spices were so desirable into the colonial period was because the seasoning would cover the taste of when food started to rot
They killed a recently pregnant aurox and did not want to waste any part of it. Or really any recently pregnant mammal.
Probably cows were milked alredy to prevent mastitis, someone just put something to hold the liquid under the udder and drank it, now cheese and butter probably have nasty origin stories
I mean, humans lactate too. That person probably saw a woman giving milk to a baby, figured out tits produce milk and then figured out that cows have tits.
Always reminds me of [this.](https://youtu.be/tCVXpmfUwjM?feature=shared)
If you think that's weird, consider how they got to cheese. And for the love of God don't Google Casu Martzu.
Humanity's ability to disgust both carnivores and herbivores with their degeneracy strikes again. I love it.
My mental funny on that one has always been this: Venlil: eating strayu Arxur: eating steak Human: brings in cheese, explains what it is Venlil and Arxur: loose their appitite Human: makes a cheesesteak Venlil and arxur: \*looks on in abject horror\*
Make it worse, make a cheeseburger with lettuce
Cheeseburger with strayu. Desecrates both Dominion AND Federation cultures at peak efficiency.
It isn't specisism if you're insulting everyone
***Isn't*** speciesism? My guy, look at my flair.
Exactly, you're putting those who matter first /s
I am fairly sure OP has made a comic with a very similar premise!
He is indeed quoting that comic.
I'm sure the Gojid would get it if they weren't brainwashed by the leaflickers.
Listen, humans used what was available at the time (Okay we might still do some weird things but it ain't that bad) Poor Arxur lol
I know how to use the brain to treat a hide but I have never heard of using feces. I like the salt and tannin method.
Same, I remember reading about people using urine, but not feces.
If I recall correctly, the feces method hasn't been used in Europe since the middle ages. I think there's still a few tanneries in the Middle East doing it. And assuming that chair is patent leather (the shiny kind) instead of medieval "I am a peasant soldier who wants armor but can't afford anything made of metal" buff leather, the traditional method for patent leather involves a mixture of linseed oil and lampblack/some other strong, dark dye, but everyone's used polyurethane since, like, the 50s. Sources: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent\_leather](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_leather) [https://blackstockleather.com/history-of-the-leather-tanning-industry/#:\~:text=In%20the%20bating%20stage%2C%20tanners,skin%20and%20made%20it%20supple](https://blackstockleather.com/history-of-the-leather-tanning-industry/#:~:text=In%20the%20bating%20stage%2C%20tanners,skin%20and%20made%20it%20supple) [https://nonstoptravelling.com/2017/02/15/leather-tanning-pigeon-poop-and-palaces-in-fez-morocco/](https://nonstoptravelling.com/2017/02/15/leather-tanning-pigeon-poop-and-palaces-in-fez-morocco/) P.S. Fun fact: The most common type of feces used in medieval Europe was dog shit. The Middle Eastern tanneries use pigeon guano.
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me giving my friend "the look" https://preview.redd.it/ua81zuo77lrc1.png?width=94&format=png&auto=webp&s=60d443dd8ba46d8cc6997f60a0a2a4f06a653f62
Slay the princess be like
He's doing a little bit of trolling
Humans trolling out allies for all of time, ah\~
Very comfortably my hind end. Actually, no, it might be comfortable for an arxur since they *don't sweat*. But whoever THOUGHT of leather upholstery deserves to stub their toe. For real, gods, I hate leather upholstery D: But man, people will try anything to see what works, really.
Either its cold and the leather is cold too, or its warm and now you're stuck to the leather.
Oh relax! Most modern leather is synthetic!
Really depends, we still eat animals and don't throw away the skin.
Should we tell em about violin strings? And the bow?
Sinew and horsehair, right?
Sheep intestines last time I checked
Gut strings are expensive as hell, I prefer metal overwraps, they're a lot cheaper and you can still get some really good ones. And yeah the bow hair is horse tail hair.
I never get the people who have problems with relatively harm free animal products. Like that wool wasn’t harvested with pain and blood, I mean, maybe if the sheep was being really rambunctious but the point is that stuff like a violin bow didn’t kill anything it was just trimming some hair. Even with the stuff that is harvested by killing the animal, there’s not specific cows for leather that’s coming from beef cows or dairy cows that have started declining and go to the butcher because the dairy wouldn’t afford to keep them in the herd longer. And we use everything from the animal, we don’t waste their death. You could almost say American (at the least, Idk enough to say all humanities,) culture views it as thankless not to be as efficient with the remains of an animal as possible. Dairy cows are the most pampered of livestock. Pigs fall short of that because they are kept in prison like pens for their own good in the bigger operations. Beef cows in California get to spend most their life before their harvested protected from coyotes on green rolling hills, Small farms, mom and Pop Farms, generate income from several different sources and are more likely to handle keeping cattle till the end of their natural life. The torturing animals narrative doesn’t hold up when farms are messing around with making the animals happier by having VR headsets strapped to them. Also, if there’s an abused brush wheel in any footage of a cow farm, that’s a sign the cows are happy. Honestly, those two reacting to the reasoning behind cow brushes would be interesting. “You automated giving them scratches?!” Edited for her grammar and less late night Tumblr mistakes.
Yeah I see it as just pure disrespect if you kill an animal and don't use every single last milligram of it for something useful. And that's from a South African, not a American or Eurocentric perspective. And it's the factory farms that justifiably get criticism for their cruelty.
No. Thats a pretty common american perspective too.
Brains is old fashioned but now we use acid to kill bacteria that rots it and tanning solution to preserve it. No feces involved from what I know - a taxidermist
I like the "from what I know" at the end, like you can't be completely certain, just *mostly* sure that it isn't still a thing.
Well, the more ways I’ve learned to tan stuff the more baffled I am. There’s hundreds of non standard options so you never know
Truly throwing feces at the problem, is such primate thing to do. - A krev probably.
That man is an agent of chaos.
Is that actually true????
Brain tanning is an ancient method that was largely used by the Native Americans; and was a simple, if rather effort intensive, method to do it. Interestingly, animals usually have enough brain to tan their own hide, bison are apparently a notable exception. And dog scat was used on an industrial scale in Victorian Britain, with collecting it being a rather well paying job for the time from what I can find.
Ancient man: Wow this cow skin looks pretty comfy. If only there were a way to sit upon it at home...
What happened is that ancient man discovered that furs used for clothing and bedding that were pissed on and thoroughly abused actually didn't crack and mold like the other ones. So they started 'treating leather' by soaking it in piss and smashing and stretching it until all the hair fell out and it got really soft and supple.
"... nowadays it's just plastic."
A Five finger Venlil? Lol sorry if I recently keep bothering you over how many, shape & order of fingers each species have.
I forgor
🤣
This is why my privateers tend to like the arxur more.... Not as judgemental lol
I gotta say dude you're getting better with every post. Keep up the hard work!
Fun fact: Modern leather tanneries use enzymes from papayas to achieve the same effect, and have done so for quite a while, so the human is just messing with his friends
Wait until they learn what ambergris is
Legitimately made me laugh out loud.
Okay, I love this trio, and wanna see more of them getting into shenanigans.
Wait, is that really how leather is tanned?!
Tanning was dirty business. So dirty in fact, most cities in medieval Europe relegated their tanners to the edge of town so they wouldn't contaminate any drinking water.