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goof320

im ruined. meta has made the first positive ui update in 3000 years and i can't whine on the internet about them as much anymore. today is a beautiful day.


Consistent-Fix-8629

You got the v67 update already??


goof320

on quest 3 ptc yes, if someone sends me a guide on how to dump the update to my pc to upload it online i will. the new multitasking is under experimental features, and i had to restart with the headset plugged in after installing the update for it to appear.


fghug

probably not easy to test unless you’re one of the cursed, but it’d be super interesting to know if they’ve resolved the 6GHz wifi issues with v67.


EPilot007

I’m also having same issue with WiFi 5Ghz, had it since V64, sent a couple of tickets, disconnecting then reconnecting but crashes what I’m running, even worse when using PCVR, I have to reset both pc and quest.


pixelcowboy

What would be the best way to test?


fghug

would have to try using 6GHz with an AP that doesn’t currently work, and the 6e will disconnect constantly… i can confidently say the u7-pro is broken, and there’s some detail in an older post on the forums, but it’s hard to tell what does / doesn’t work at the moment. https://communityforums.atmeta.com/t5/Get-Help/What-Wifi-6e-routers-currently-works-bug-free-with-the-Quest-3/td-p/1101778 (probably i should activate ptc and find out myself)


WholesomeGimp

Wonder this too. I do not get disconnects but the connection speed is super unstable.


SCOTT0852

You can't dump the update after it's installed, you have to use Wireshark to grab the zip URL when your Quest is downloading the update.


flametai1

Any luck with dumping the fw?


CaptainMarder

Is this like what the vision pro does with spatial locking of windows wherever you want in a room, or is meta allowing just freely putting windows anywhere within a boundary instead of it being locked to the task bar? Either is better than the current implementation.


Null_Uranium

Yep, downloading it rn… still no V66 passthrough. Hopefully this update fixes that 😭


Time_Concert_1751

Same for me, I enrolled in the PTC after I didnt get the passthrough in v66. I'm hoping v67 PTC will fix that. I'm more excited about that then the window thing. :P


Null_Uranium

Guys i have bad news...


Consistent-Fix-8629

What do you mean by no passthrough? Passthrough doesn't work at all??


Splatoonkindaguy

No the fix for distortions


gilshahar7

I only got my quest 3 yesterday, how can i know if the passthrough update is on my device? I see v66 but there are still distortions ;(


AmbassadorMission632

The meta website now officially allows users to download the latest update. You download it from the website to a computer and then from the computer to the Quest!


Secure_Part_7822

I tried to update my headset from the website of meta but the installed version is the v66


foundafreeusername

It does look great. But then this is exactly what I expected with the Quest 1 in 2019 and I was disappointed seeing how restricted it was xD


ajunior7

this is actually great, now the real question is if you can resize 2d sideloaded apps without switching to "big screen" mode?


ayyndrew

Just tested it and you can!


ajunior7

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


ixoniq

Great. Sometimes for productivity it’s useful to install some Android apps. Or like Netflix or other streaming apps.


redditrasberry

yes!!!


Vesuvias

Holy shit this is HUGE!


_gamera_

I've never had this problem, but I use a couple of 3rd party launchers for 2d apps.


LucaColonnello

Can I ask what do you use and how do you install 2d apps like spotify or netflix?


AndrosToro

first you have to get Sidequest (google it ) on your PC/Mac and install it on your Quest 3 ... then you can get APK Pure and sideload it on your Quest using Sidequest... that is the last time if you want you have to use Sidequest...eventhough you can use it to manually load every Android app you can find on sites like APK Mirror or some other APK website...THEN APK Pure you can install and update Android apps directly on your headset, no need to go to APK Mirror for individual APK Downloads to Sidequest from your PC... CHEERS


_gamera_

Lighting Launcher has an option where if an app doesn't behave properly in its own window you can launch it the LL browser window. For example, some 2d apps in their own window completely break when you try and resize them. But when launched in the LL browser they're completely stable.


AdenInABlanket

There actually is not longer a big screen mode! It works a lot more like Vision Pro, where you select which apps you want to be in big screen and can still move all other apps freely


semmu

its kind of amazing this took them ages to implement... thank you Apple for forcing Meta to actually do something useful with the hardware


ILoveRegenHealth

This is the competition I like. Reminds me a bit of the Sega and Nintendo early days where they were both forced to up their game.


No-Refrigerator-1672

I wich Vision Pro was more popular, so Meta would be forced to compete not only in UI, but also in software itself; like reaching out to more companies to welcome them to their platform, or forcing Netflix to finally take the head out of the a**hole and implement better resolution than 720p.


gogodboss

Well with Netflix now supported on the browser and the ui and features getting better it seems like a proper Netflix app isn't necessary anymore


No-Refrigerator-1672

Depends on your preferences. For example, I like how some players chreate virtual theatre enfironment, while simulaying ambient lighing from the screen. This makes me feel more immersed, and I don't see any way to get this with default oculus UI even after update. While I do agree that Netfix in browser is watchable enough, I'd still like to get the full app experience. Or, alternatively, they can drop their DRM and allow me to steam Netflix from my PC into VD or BigScreen, but that's never gonna happen.


Hot_Wolf3820

You can stream if you open Netflix from Firefox.


Basic-Assumption6452

I know I will get down voted for this, but I feel like this response is so typical on reddit, particularly this sub. Whenever there's an improvement there's a comment like this, even when Meta introduced pancake lenses someone posted something like this. 


Significant-Gene9639

It’s just very convenient that meta announced and introduced certain features aroundabout when Apple did it. Like they’ve been sitting on this stuff rather than releasing it for some reason - were they saving it for a quest pro 2? Like how meta brought in 3D photos and panorama viewing basically from nowhere, because Apple showed it on the VP. They’ve now got these mobile free form windows finally released, the passthrough has been upgraded substantially, the hand tracking has been upgraded substantially. A lot of these VP competing improvements have come through post VP…


semmu

tbh i got my Q3 for last christmas and i was actually shocked how much the system UI sucked, despite the hardware being capable of much-much more. (e.g. the fact that the whole UI is still 2D in a 3D environment is just absurd. at least have some depth on the buttons and other stuff... and dont get me started on "window management" and "multitasking" on it) so yeah, im bitter af, because Q3 could be much-much better, but since its a closed system, we cannot really do anything about it, just hope that Zucc blesses us with some actual improvements. but im grateful for AVP because it clearly changed the direction meta is going with Q3.


_gamera_

Q3 launched with an old ui, an outdated store experience and even launched with a big tent-pole game that was a Q2 title. They launched new hardware with few software improvements. The idea that improvements weren't on the way, and have been inspired by Apple, is actually kind of silly.


No-Refrigerator-1672

The biggest shock for me was that Oculus store had no filters for mixed reality apps and games. Like if was Christmas, the Q3 launched like a month of two ago, the main selling point is mixed reality, and I can't even find MR app in official store! That was ridiculous.


FormerGameDev

not like all of this hasn't been in the Link app.. though the Link app has severely suffered from lack of development.


FluidConversation849

I knew meta would take inspiration from apple's OS, the only question was when. Finally we get this basic feature


-Sibience-

This is why competition is always good in any area of tech, without it companies will always opt for doing minimum work for maximum profit. That's why we have the old saying of "competition drives innovation". Meta's sofware has always been the weakest link so maybe now they will start investing more money into it.


Vesuvias

SO happy we have serious big dawg competition now. Rising tides lift all boats.


HiFiPotato

We built this back in 2017 for Rift S, glad to see it's finally made its way into Quest [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvP\_RI\_S-bw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvP_RI_S-bw)


Hot_Wolf3820

Meh, quest ui is still far from the oculus pc ui. I’m not even sure it will ever reach that level.


RE333ITA

that's how war works


Diligent-Site8957

Finally!


AlabasterSlim

Is that a new environment too?


Socially_Awesome

yes, its called lakeside peak.


kalasipaee

Where do you access these environments?


MrWeirdoFace

That's actually available already. They snuck a couple in there recently.


GoatBotherer

How do you change the environment? When I'm connected to my PC it's just a grey neverending grid.


Educational-Dinner22

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD6JVP5baSI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD6JVP5baSI)


Ch0ng0B0ng0

What is this


biquetra

I had that on v65


AlabasterSlim

Honestly I only use passthrough


_gamera_

You can actually turn the freaking window curve off? FINALLY.


skippington

Some people love curved screens. I kinda hate them. Can't wait.


_gamera_

Sometimes it works. When I'm trying to watch a movie or something I really don't want it.


andrew_stirling

Using the Xbox app to play FIFA is downright horrible due to the curved screen.


lfgdcr

Just updated tô V67 but I just didn't get the feature, is there anything I can do to get it?


CubitsTNE

Reboot the headset, and if that doesn't work then wait. There's no hack to force it, that's all we got.


pampas93

I think it's an experimental setting that you'll have to turn on from the settings


Ca_Sam2

i dont have v67ptc available is there a download to sideload the update?


Different_Ad9336

After restarting you should receive another micro update and then this feature is available to turn on in experimental settings.


kalasipaee

This is why competition is so good. Imagine apple releasing a $1000 vr to complete. Would have a 10x improvement to future meta quest products


redditrasberry

Lol, as if Apple responds to price competition. They consider high prices as as a differentiating part of their brand.


Krolitian

You know Samsung sells more expensive phones than Apple right? People still in their 2015 Apple-hate mindset and haven't looked at how competitive most of their products are priced. It's just when you try upgrading the RAM or buying accessories that their pricing gets atrocious.


JorgTheElder

Please. They were doing stuff like in research apps long ago, it has nothing to do with AVP. Minus the MR part, it is all just stuff folks have been doing in PCVR for ages.


ThatsNotThePoint-__-

PTC v67 is already out and i dont even have the all the features of v66? i seriously dont understand their updating philosophy, or lack thereof...


wescotte

The the next PTC pretty much comes out right when they push a main update. Experimental features often take 2-3 updates before everybody gets them. 120hz on Quest 2 took like 10 before it was universally available.


DueCelebration6442

You can use the Meta Quest Updater Tool. https://www.meta.com/en-us/help/quest/articles/fix-a-problem/troubleshoot-headsets-and-accessories/quest-software-update-tool/ May not have .67 on it but can try --added link to tool


ChuJungDD

This feature may not be available at this time. Please view our help article to learn [how to update your device software](https://meta.com/help/540602136930952).


DueCelebration6442

Might not be available where are. I was able to use this tool for 66


iloveoovx

Restart your device sometimes does wonders


Reelix

My month-long uptime


clickster

It's the same philosophy of every major software platform: gradual roll out.


andrew_stirling

Maybe a lot of people with quest headsets have come from using Apple stuff. They launch updates for everyone at the same time.


AdrianGE98

What features are you missing? some people dont know where to look


webheadVR

been saying that since the rift days..


Matmanreturns

Just updated to v67 and not getting this feature yet. Hopefully it’ll roll out soon. EDIT: did a restart that gave me another update and now it’s there in experimental settings! So far cool but a little glitchy. Like if I’m watching something on YouTube fullscreen in the browser, trying to resize the screen doesn’t seem to work if I try to make it bigger, and if I make it smaller it ends up cropping the picture and getting stuck so I can’t resize it again and stuff like that.


ButterBallFatFeline

FUCK YES!!!!!! IM A BELIEVER!!!!!


emmanance_front

I downloaded the v67 through the software update section in the Quest, which didn't give the feature until I did a restart, which did another update before it shut down and restarted. Now it's there.


Socially_Awesome

I just tired it. Made me restart my headset. It’s running well so far and I love how it feels. UI is very intuitive. I mostly game on it, but I’m looking forward to lazy evenings now and just browsing.


Socially_Awesome

I’m installing now. I can’t read any of the text I. The video, so I’m excited to dig through it.


GaLaXxYStArR

This is so exciting!!!


Kesopuffs

I’m enrolled in PTC but I don’t have the v67 update showing in the quest 3. Any way to make it show?


thatpaulallen

Same here. I'm really running out of patience for Meta. Their update philosophy is infuriating.


inter4ever

Got it on Quest 2 only so far. I like it!


redditrasberry

Fantastic! Now please tell me you can resize those windows? Don't understand why this person literally hovered over the resize handles and didn't try them out if it works?


Socially_Awesome

You can it’s pretty awesome.


fragmental

Hey, that advertisement, that showed this, wasn't a total lie. It was just a preview for a future update.


james_pic

They were running a similar ad on a billboard near me for a while, so you had to figure this wasn't far off.


CentralValleyMyc

If only they would bring back the ability to move the window distance using the joystick. I miss the days of sending a big window far away like a big movie theater and having some smaller closer screens without having to damn near walk the screen away from you.


AmphibianOrganic9228

Yeah I immediately was trying this and not working - seems a natural and intuitive feature to have and needed.


ondrejeder

I'm really happy to see how Quest 3 is evolving in terms of software. The underlying hardware is quite good from day 1, but the software still needs lot of work and we're actually seeing the results now, thanks Meta


UltraBunnyBoostST

What’s PTC?


Socially_Awesome

Public test channel.


UltraBunnyBoostST

Oh. Is this in settings? Can I opt in?


CubitsTNE

Yes, on your meta app in the settings you flick the radio button and it'll start the download in your headset.


UltraBunnyBoostST

Looking in the app. Don’t see anything to opt in. What section of the app should I be looking into?


CubitsTNE

Click your headset, then headset settings, then advanced settings. Boom.


Socially_Awesome

This feature apparently hasn’t rolled out yet. I don’t see anything new. May test my pro controllers later see if that’s fixed. Edit just checked again and the setting is there under experimental. Just restarted.


Splatoonkindaguy

Are the controllers fixed?


Socially_Awesome

That’s a big no. UnPairing my pro controllers now, going back to the other ones.


HomoNeanderTHICC

I got v66 like a day after it was released and I still don't have the passthrough changes, wrist button, or background audio. I am convinced this is a psyop against me at this point.


Passionate_Gamer84

Is this just multiple windows (such as browser, store, game menu) or actually allowing multiple use of different apps at the same time ? Big difference


Matmanreturns

I wish that dimmer button worked for passthrough too.


zlc_productions

If I walk around, will the panels come with me also!!? Like attached to where they are in space and allows them to stay in my face when I walk around?


storm1er

It's the only question I have: does windows actually remember their place? Do they reset on boot ?


AmphibianOrganic9228

they do not move with you. You can put three windows into standard slots (middle, left and right) and you can drag those those three around. They aren't going to be coming back in. In fact, just putting your device to sleep and back on again can mess up and reset windows locations (inconsistently)


Matmanreturns

Just clicking the fullscreen toggle on a YouTube video moved it across the room and behind me. They really gotta figure out how to lock these things in place.


Hbecher

Did put some windows on my living room walls, closed the menu walked into the kitchen and opened the menu again and the 3 windows from my walls followed to the kitchen, would be cool if they would stay there since the headset knows the layout of my apartement


Anxious_Huckleberry9

Here we go!


KolyaIO

Awesome !!


itanite

Doesn't appear available on the QPro.


antvolpe

So does this mean we can't resize multiple windows now??


Socially_Awesome

yup, just tested.


antvolpe

Can you toggle the curve of a window when you have multiple windows open or only when your in fullscreen??


Independent_Fill_570

Anyone with a quest 2 on the PTC? Is this available as well?


Weird-Alternative340

the v67 is up to 1.2g,really big update i think


Minute_Grocery_100

It gives some small hope they will also improve their Quest tv app. Let's see :)


krzychuwr1

If you don't mind testing, is airlink working for you in v67 PTC? And was it broken in v66 for you?


keem85

That background!! Where did you get it?


thatpaulallen

It's built-in. If you're on v66 go to Settings and look for Lakeside Peak under Personalization


cskhard

About damn time! So happy for this, the XR experience is evolving. Competition is the best for users


AdenInABlanket

Just put on my quest and got the update but i still don't have the feature :( Guess I gotta wait Edit: Turned my headset off to leave for work and it asked me to update and I now have it! Gonna try when I get back


Equivalent_Log_4299

so can we only curve screens when were in full screen now? hopefully there's a way we can curve screens even when not in full screen mode


MLG_HerobrineYT

I can't say I like the top grab, but I love the multi-tasking! Can't wait to see this in the public release!


Diligent-Site8957

Look carefully with your eyes, it's not the top that grabs, it's all around!


Independent_Fill_570

Also haven’t been a fan of top grabs. I hope they run more with an overall outline to let you grab any side, like a pane of glass against the app.


AdrianGE98

You can clearly see its from any side


Independent_Fill_570

I missed that. Thanks!


Maleficus

In the video you can see the same white highlight on the bottom edge of windows when they move pointer over that edge, so hopefully it does work like that just it wasn't shown. Happens several times in video but more easily see during 1:37 - 1:46 timestamps


OneklickLP

Wow. Never thought Meta would be able to pull that off... They are really cooking since the AVP launch


DeathByVlog

You can thank Apple for this 🫢


redditrasberry

actually I thank Meta who implemented it


ersatz07

Seriously. So many great updates have been released since that thing came out.


Sea_Paramedic2434

Nice! I just checked and the update was there! I'm updating now! 😁


ComposerSouthern717

How


yap_1993

What a great moment to have my quest 3 broken in the shelf T\_T


Environmental_Might1

I'm still on v65😪


Ryand789

Hope this fixes the issues with connecting to 6ghz!


Fearless_Maybe2006

Looking forward to have my One calendar open, Along with Firefox, meta browser and Onenote open at the same time while Still being able to use my tablet with two screens.


Ok-Pen4978

Oh my GOD. That background is GLORIOUS!! I must have it. Please, if you can.


thatpaulallen

If you're on V66 you likely already have. It's called Lakeside Peak


retxed018

Damn Its getting better and more like the vision pro but the vision pro has a much powerful processor. I wonder when Meta will push the quest 3 cpu to its limit


TomTrottel

uh I need to setup a forest/mountain HDRI like this :)


TSmasvr

Is it only quest 3?


x3derr8orig

Can you have two same apps running alongside? For instance, in current version I can’t get two moonlight apps running next to each other.


Mikid05

I'm jealous that you could get that I'm still stuck on v64 with "no updates available" I swear my headsets just will never update when other people's do


Ryan86me

Use this! [https://www.meta.com/help/quest/software\_update/](https://www.meta.com/help/quest/software_update/) Official Meta tool for forcing an update to the latest version.


Secure_Part_7822

Personally, even with that, I am still stuck at v66 and yet I have activated PTC


beaterx

But does this allow me multiple unattached browser windows?


AmphibianOrganic9228

yes it does


Arx700

Great news, I really could of used this the other night. It's always been too restrictive using the quest 3 in bed with how different windows are set up, this looks like a game changer.


AmphibianOrganic9228

This is a big improvement for single tasking things like watching movies on Plex (i.e. using the apk) and playing games in moonlight/steam etc...before you had the menu, borders. Now you just have the screen, with option to have curved or not. Can't resize it but you can hack it by resetting view to where you are not located and moving back to your location. Does suggest there should be an option to change screen size as you can with the streaming video mode in the browser.


Ramattei

Of only they fix single hand tracking. It only works after factoring reset and only until I restart the headset


qanar

What is that beautiful background?


Mario_119

Lakeside Peak, it should be available in the environments section


DEATH_BY_ROBOTS

How are you getting multiple windows?


modsuki

Free moveable multiple window???


Pierpawolffff

so cool, I always hated the UI with stucked, curved screens! One question, if I join the PTC, how many days I have to wait until I'll able to test v67? I'm from Italy


Ready_Beginning_226

we already know the release date in Italy?


RengarReddit

Are you using your bare hands?


_Ship00pi_

Omg. Wow. Fucking finally.


Rene_Coty113

How do you change the environment ?


The80sDimension

got this update this morning and tried it out. Wasn't a fan. Im too used to the old way at this point. I also couldn't break the browser out into multiple windows, that didn't seem to work.


AJBats

Can you pin windows so they stay persistent inside immersive games/apps? Similar to how Dash did on PCVR Oculus.


Alternative-Swim-230

Awesome but question did they finally give us the option to like double tap our fingers together to disable hand tracking and prevent your fingers from touching everything when eating and stuff ?


mrpena

i haven't used my Q3 in months, but are they borrowing apple's approach?


nindom

that background is part of the update?


sniperx4

It’s lakeside peak. Was announced 3-4 versions ago but just now was released.


Ok_Attitude_8189

Is it already released? I noticed a Spotify pop up below the taskbar where I could play and skip between songs where I used to have to go to notifications.


denispage

They should copy the resize window pitch from Apple Vision Pro. One of the best features.


Vast_Client_5221

Competition is GOOD 😊


Vast_Client_5221

Loving this update!!! ❤️ Wish it was easier to grab the windows without controllers though. Much easier before! Seems a little rough. Sure an update fix coming. 👍


GoodguyGastly

As someone who doesn't use VR often what did they add and why is it good?


WillingnessChance330

They added the ability to move up to 3 tabs wherever you want, without limits, plus an additional 3 stationary tabs. This is compared to only 3 stationary tabs, forced directly next to each other.


GoodguyGastly

Hey. Thanks. That's pretty cool.


tygramynt

Now if we could pin more then like to apps to the launch bar at the bottom we would be set


OsintUK1

How do I get this on quest 3


abysan

This was the default beaviour when the Rift released. It's a shame that the feature was only recently brought back and it wasn't default in Quest until now.


Secure_Part_7822

I activated the "Public Test Channel" on my headset from my phone but I still don't have the v67 update. Anyone know why?


Could_have_been_a

There's still a maximum number of windows that can be freely moved around outside of snap-to dock locations, right?


_sarte

yeah, 3 free ones and 3 docked ones. Probably the limit of hardware. Cause with 6 heavyload windows (like netflix, 4k video on youtube and instagram reels) open, the moment you start recording and put a little bit of weight on device, it starts to struggle with smoothness of some elements.