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CreativeCritical247

[UNPACKING SICKNESS AS A BEAUTY TREND by Mina Le](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Wf8wrEb74) https://preview.redd.it/xmllccezcvrc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09367d5e1ec1cee0f9010059f010d0d3709f2c47


dadduimm

Timothe chalamat in that pc is so funny


CreativeCritical247

Do you get why people think that Timothée Chalamet would fit the role of the soft, fragile, sickly ML?


dadduimm

He looks like Victorian dying child


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/sd6qy08pnvrc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71b8d4f82097def9052babdf5fa62840c785bd74


FellowOfHorses

It's an old romanticism/gothic trope. The reasons are: Memories are more beautiful than real people Dead girls don't get old/ugly Dead girls don't have opinions or interests Give the protagonist a reasonable reason to be a recluse


Morganlights96

Memento mori and all that jazz


Unhappy_ass

I like to self insert into a dying character lmao


Leninthecustard

:(


DemythologizedDie

The Bad Ending of the Otome Game does a good job of breaking the trope. The dying woman is testy and contemptuous of all the men attracted to her being beautiful and terminally ill.


CreativeCritical247

And then these Male Leads become obsessed with the FL Emilia instead after Ophelia's Death.....


ThatweirdmofoinWeb

I always assumed it’s for pitying them


jo_nigiri

I love sickfics and I think it's really cute 😭


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jo_nigiri

YES!!! (See flair)


TrevorBarten

angst


shiny_glitter_demon

I hate when these stories don't deliver. You are dying? Ok. DIE. DIE FOR THE STORYTELLING GODS. Yes I like drama.


CurlSquirrel

You need to check out Lia's Bad Ending / Bad Ending of the Otome Game (first pic) then. The whole plot is about how Emilia's life is affected by the death of her best friend Ophelia. Makes fun of the "dying beauty" trope too while hitting you with serious emotions with a side of reverse harem drama.


Longjumping-Quote-69

The second one definitely got your back 😂


OrigamiOwl22

The second one depressed me so much because I read she was actually going to die, so reading this story and their hopes and dreams knowing that it has to end actually hurt lol.


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/gdzhly3y8vrc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf2059ec628d927f9a5e495c190087d2064916aa I think in ***Ascendance of a Bookworm****,* the disease of Isekai Protagonist *Rozemyne* isn't romanticized at all. The depiction of her mana illness is very grounded and not easily + quickly solved. And it doesn't serve as a plot device to attract hot white elite aristocratic or royal guys.


KimberlyPossibleAnn

A real hidden gem


CreativeCritical247

The only thing that makes me uncomfortable about this isekai story is *Myne X Ferdinand*.... Plot Twist: >!**Urano is OG Rozemyne!**!< I would have much prefered that she stayed single.


kalawas

At least put the ships it in spoiler there are lot new reader out there. It's endgame story


kalawas

I don't think it's true it's one the most popular LN series and always recommended to anyone that want to read LN. For manga and anime? Yeah for sure


KimberlyPossibleAnn

I was talking about the anime


CreativeCritical247

When I read these (melodramatic) romantic stories about a sick or dying Female Lead or Male Lead, I have to think of the ***"Ali MacGraw's Disease".*** ***In 1997, Roger Ebert defined "Ali MacGraw's Disease" as a movie illness in which "the only symptom is that the patient grows more beautiful until finally dying".*** https://preview.redd.it/1thlbjm99vrc1.jpeg?width=1772&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa770d80ef7c5fa5c126217ac4b49e2595e975a5


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/g0t0xqvndvrc1.jpeg?width=1395&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa818c6c29d82048a9a09a39ffd12a50e2468071 ***Moulin Rouge!*** - **Satine** / **Nicole Kidman** (a fatal case of consumption: **Tuberculosis**)


Lileti91

Well, at least this one was heavily based on The Lady of the Camellias book, written in 1848


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/rk3250rpjvrc1.jpeg?width=1238&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed0c5e15c60d8b34022dbe00485f9c080901954e **A Walk to Remember** - **Jamie Sullivan / Mandy Moore** (**Terminal leukemia**)


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/ndvrlks8kvrc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c68998f57cda947229893b76665328237ced6a7 **The Fault in Our Stars** - **Hazel Lancaster / Shailene Woodley** (**Stage IV thyroid cancer**)


CreativeCritical247

* **Your thoughts on how (incurable) Illnesses are depicted in the Romance Fantasy / Otome Isekai Genre?** * **And do you think that these RoFan titles with the words** ***"Sickly, Time-Limited or Terminally Ill"*** **are often kinda misleading?** * **Sometimes it turns out that the protagonist either has a false diagnosis, very quickly find a cure, or it's all a stupid misunderstanding.** https://preview.redd.it/4jho2hcb7vrc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a4df835e77805ad8e8193b7baece311472e0b5f It is an incurable disease, but it is not a fatal disease


CreativeCritical247

Other examples: https://preview.redd.it/99ain0kj7vrc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17b94367a90da48ef3ff2fcbf1f366683c21d3ab Because I was Terminally Ill, I Married the Male Lead’s Brother, and Now He’s Obsessed with Me


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/r8enhwn88vrc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a4e3521fcb106e9164817ac80cb4d385a4461c9 The Emperor’s Terminally-ill Youngest Daughter is Being Taken Care Of


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/um80vhni8vrc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=670f9477436833d30f894553a41879e641fd4691 A Terminally Ill Villainess Refuses To Be Adopted


Khulmach

Is this a novel or Manhwa?


CreativeCritical247

Novel Updates


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/s9g3dcrs8vrc1.jpeg?width=821&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=546084230fc219c8f0db28c1ca1117449e2a754c After I Died, My Husband Went Mad


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/0ed7nt3r7vrc1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cdd4ade35634ffcdcd2c66f13bd2788a0afcb6e7 The Terminally Ill Side Character Inside of a Martial Arts Novel


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/ecdq188o7vrc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6f5a074d9918cded0ccef40f108f8ed2dc4f910 Guys in This Game Have Psychosis / All Male Protagonists Are Ill\_Heroine.jpg


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/8ranosuy7vrc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac579f3d0c0c04e78c93abf57ab6eac817f8b089 I Am Living an Unmarried Life With a Terminally Ill Lover / In the Midst of an Intended Marriage With My Time-Limited Lover


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/8z0rlsgw7vrc1.jpeg?width=690&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18b12cd0115abe49b608b6991e2b8a72710457cb Bad Deeds of the Terminally Ill Empress


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/qzfvlty58vrc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6de5efda6833d19625f12378c134b9fda7df4ddc Please Leave The Sickly Villainess Alone


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/wcgvstkt7vrc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a9288437afa7f8451535f9591145b050be03a5a Largo – Confessions Of A Terminally Ill Princess


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/edxo1enb8vrc1.jpeg?width=1785&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee92697cb2afd03f15c3865639e4e17b434f175c I’m the Villainous Male Lead’s Terminally Ill Aunt


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/dt7d788f8vrc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2b68f4364c961c219face43f62af59d03495409 The Time-limited Extra Is Disguised as a Tutor in a Villain’s House


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/k6ns0j3l8vrc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16230c3bb81126dd9885b05113f23351a5ee6e0b If You Fall In Love With A Terminally Ill Princess


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/33yzxsbn8vrc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a66f0beaa6f8f519f280fc231ad1701b4ea0da1 How the Male Lead Treats the Terminally-ill Young Lady


CreativeCritical247

https://preview.redd.it/e3nn57sp8vrc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9e172b36913e8353b7c6feb4f4a37965dccf61c The Villain’s Terminally Ill Wife


KeyShip6946

Ok I need to know which of these are manhwas so I can add them to my library lol


CreativeCritical247

You can just google search for yourself.


CreativeCritical247

SOURCE: [**https://www.novelupdates.com/stag/terminal-illness/**](https://www.novelupdates.com/stag/terminal-illness/) [**https://www.novelupdates.com/stag/sickly-characters/**](https://www.novelupdates.com/stag/sickly-characters/)


Interesting_Froyo_83

guys ik i'm cruel for doing this but you guys gotta know that >!the fl in time of the terminally ill dies at the end, leaving the ml alone with their young daughter-!< i dropped it cause of this T-T


CreativeCritical247

I believe she is currently the only RoFan Heroine with a terminal disease >!that actually dies at the end of the story!<.


Merin_Z

It broke my heart, not that I wished for others to due, but I really wished for her to be healed, she been through so much😭


OrigamiOwl22

That story was so hard to read due to knowing how it ended


_Ryesen

Seeing this topic after the John Green video on Tuberculosis, makes me realize they really do be going for that TB looks (which was glamourized in the 1800s). Though in manwha terms, I doubt they are thinking that deep lol. And just either want tragedy or comedy (in the cases where the FL/ML really isn't dying.)


Weeb_on_weeds

I don't really like this trope much, bc most of the time they just get miraculously cured from an incurable disease. But Karina's Days, and Time limited villainess (idk if the names r correct) are the only ones I completed bc they die fr. If a character is dying, well in he title at least I'm expecting a sad manhwa man. Well, I will give i thought my time was up a chance tho, it seems interesting.


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Wait Clea dies?😭


Weeb_on_weeds

Looks like I unintentionally spoiled it for some people. Maybe be I should have put a warning.


[deleted]

It's okay, I'll still read it🤧


Weeb_on_weeds

You should, you'll be surprised by the ending


Weeb_on_weeds

Let me know what you think of it.


[deleted]

Ok I will😁


Slow-Frosting-9607

You'll be satisfied so don't drop it!


trover2345325

What if I tell you that charlottes letter has a sickly male lead>! who later dies in the end.!< https://preview.redd.it/ifah4b7ebvrc1.jpeg?width=186&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b08787da60e95c9f98dc290dda4e2868925e274


CreativeCritical247

I'm not even sure that Charlotte has a ML. >!Some readers rather ship her with the crossdressing twin sister who impersonate her dying brother.!< https://preview.redd.it/1rdjuiqgcvrc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46a8199ec2803c3df76a21022c3db605e6685a43


BusyAd2586

Unless something was recently added in I’m a Villainess, Can I Die? (The Duchess Has a Deathwish), I don’t believe the FL is physically sick, but mainly struggles with mental health and suicidal thoughts. Part of that actually does revolve around her relationship with her sister that died after battling illness her whole life, but I wouldn’t really say it falls into the terminally ill FL trope


CreativeCritical247

I know that this title / story is about Suicide and Mental Illness. I added it to my picture collection because [the desire to be sad: "tragically beautiful" art & romanticizing mental illness by oliSUNvia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCKH5fUvsPI&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.novelupdatesforum.com%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&feature=emb_title) https://preview.redd.it/ifqv68om2wrc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42c0336424f7dfca4500ac32d84145c6f1e6d5d0


Live_Veterinarian989

A Match Made in Mana/Lilienne of Turin does have a sickly FL. Idk what happens in the future updates tho regarding her mana sickness. Love it so much! Hoping they would update soon 😭😭😭 https://preview.redd.it/3r3fsxysvwrc1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e1ca984eab6d4956d0b7135b51b2b0c4f99816c


NamisKnockers

Saving my sweetheart is another one although it’s a curse and not a sickness.  


AmelietheDuck

If yall only choose one here to read its gotta be “Sierra on Strike” it is so fucking hilarious and cathartic


QTlady

The thing is, I don't like the time-limited terminally ill stuff. Too close to tragedy. That's not what I look for in Romance. But I can usually accept sick. Provided it's done right, we get lots of moments of ML just protective and caring and it's delicious. So I've made it a point to avoid the majority of these. FYI: **I'm A Villainess, Can I Die** doesn't actually fit this trope. She is neither sick or terminally ill or anything in between. Well, unless you don't count mentally because >!she is very, very suicidal. Like she self terminated in her past life to begin with. So reincarnating was just such a bother. And FL isn't even angry. She's just so incredibly listless due to having no will to live.!< If her time is limited, its only because >!if people take their eyes off her for a second, she might end up jumping off another clocktower.!< I actually find this premise rather fascinating.


CreativeCritical247

I can relate to **I'm A Villainess, Can I Die?** because I have been struggling with depression for years.  But it does bother me that because she has the "Terrible Illness of the Heart" and is suicidal, she triggers the romantic feelings of the two handsome Male Leads... Let me tell you, the Love of a Family or pretty Suitor/Partner is not enough to heal your mental illness. 


External-Striking

I read I am a Villainess, can I die and I have to say it's a hidden gem. The FL is sick in the idea of suffering of extreme depression and I loved the story so much because it depicts REAL depression not like what 99% of the manhwa stories show when it comes to this topic. In most of the stories when a FL or ML is depressed they get cured like almost instantly if they meet the other lead of the story which is so silly and unrealistic. Here it shows the journey and shows as close as possible as it can get in such a story how depression real hits. If you guys want a bit of a dark story and a real good one at that I mega recommend this one.


SweetAcanthaceae5949

Does Libertia count? She wasn’t actually dying was she? I thought it was all just a big misunderstanding. We are still dealing with the Victorian obsession with tuberculosis


qkmilkmagnesia

Tbf in "I thought my time was up", the ML has bo idea she's sick and the title suggests she's not dying at all.


CreativeCritical247

But the FL thinks that she doesn't have much time left and the ML is pretty much sick/dying due to the Rotting Curse that can be only cured by the Heroine herself.


qkmilkmagnesia

Right and that's why it doesn't fit the trope. Characters in the story aren't attracted to her bc she's sick like the person says in the first pic you posted. No one but her think she's sick and her thinking that is just a plot device to empower her, leave her family and execute her bucket list.


CreativeCritical247

Good point.   But I have mixed feelings about this trope "Turns out the Diagnosis was entirely wrong".


EvaArktur

Which one of them are actually dead, preferably forever?


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Well if I remember right >!Karina actually died but get resurect for a few year have a daughter but then redied for good!<


MohSad2

Wait, that's even more messed up imo


AlternativePlayful34

Ok, but how does "time limited villainess belong in this trope. She is not sick. She is dead. There is a difference. Or are there any miracles and I just off the loop?


GlitterSparkleJuly

I feel exposed. But thanks for the list hahaha. Saving all. Can you guys recommend more in this genre (I wish it was an official one :'D) that you guys personally liked. Good art is ++++++++++ also if the people get super regretful about FL super +++++++++++++


Large-Particular-169

its been two months, i wonder if u found something good to read hahaha coz i've been looking too


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Special_Hippo3399

Bro these stories legit make me wish I had Tuberculosis. Gonna be so hot and pale when dying omg.


Fortune86

Commenting for later :)


Inspiringer

Any of these completed?


Dry_Image_9028

Who is that one with pink hair and purple eyes ?


CreativeCritical247

Read the caption/subtitle. Official Title: The Archvillain's Daughter in Law FL: Laria Losstree


Dry_Image_9028

Oh i didn't recognise her since the art was different , thnks


Fan-of-clams

i’m a villainess, can i die isn’t really limited time, she’s just mentally ill


GataLoca7

Also, A Tender Heart and How to Tame my Beastly Husband (FL felt "ill" and died on her 1st life)


Perfect-Possible7124

Why


Perfect-Possible7124

Why


Perfect-Possible7124

Why


CreativeCritical247

I Was Just Having Fun With The Time Limit https://preview.redd.it/nigigx5wvv4d1.jpeg?width=965&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9c4a9058088396bd2ce1f40c85256a41fc37dfd


CreativeCritical247

[ The Sick Girl Trope, Explained ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTghtjyMwwA) https://preview.redd.it/reinzngfxv4d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65a5519fc3aaef43f9bf123b2b01d45f9239b832