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It was 3-0


jasonalloyd

This team loves to turtle when they get the lead. They just stop shooting and stop playing the type of hockey that got them the 3-0 in the first place. And our bottom 2 lines are weak, we don't have a shutdown defense line like other teams but for some reason when we get the lead we still throw our third and fourth line out there to "defend" it. Kastelic, Kelly and whatever random AHLer is on the 4th line is not a defense shutdown line its a we have zero depth and can't fill a complete NHL roster line.


elvishblood_24

would pinto help


SirNexus95

I hope Jacques gives them hell.


FixedTheNewelPost

Honestly, perfect first game for this group. Show the new coach what youre capable when you play well then proceed with the same old turnover, extra pass, try too much, blown coverage crap we've seen all year. I hope thats one long silent flight home. Wake up fellas, you're shyte.


CesareSomnambulist

Too bad they gotta stop in Denver first...I'm sure that'll go totally fine!


FixedTheNewelPost

Whoops, thought that was a home game. Honestly okay with however that game goes, each game is now a 'show us what youre made of' game. On that note, Batherson's best game in a week maybe tonight? I thought he looked good.


Ok_Compote_8826

Even in the 1st they didn’t look great, defensively anyways. Tons of chances against, chaos in the d-zone like usual. The only difference between the first two periods and the 3rd is that Arizona capitalized on their chances.


shtoopsy

Oh they're riding bikes for sure


[deleted]

He's not that type of coach. He's just going to explain to them what they need to clean up, and it they don't then they'll start seeing the pine.


Ihaveabudgie

Welcome to Ottawa Jacques. You have your work cut out for you!


Clojiroo

Not his first time taking over the reins of a dogshit Sens team.


Boring_Ad_7100

Also wont bee his first time turning it around entirely. Patience is now key . Suddenly andlauer and staois make sense to us...


New-Blueberry-4854

Crookshank and Korpisalo were great


MaximizedLoL

Agreed. Another wasted game where our goalie deserved better.


GandalfsTaint-

Hamonic should never wear a Senators jersey again. Replace him with whoever I don’t fucking care, he’s such a liability with LITERALLY NOTHING TO OFFER


homicidal_penguin

Pierre Dorion's last present to this org. He needs to be bought out asap in the offseason


snailpubes

Vancouver is still laughing about that one. Can't believe Ottawa gave up a 3rd for Hammer.


amach9

AND gave him 2 years with a NMC….


Ripsyd

Big time


JarethCutestoryJuD

> he’s such a liability with LITERALLY NOTHING TO OFFER HE NEVER FUCKING HAS. He should never have been traded for let alone re-signed.


Ihaveabudgie

That fourth goal was fucking brutal. Usually on goals like these you go "Welp that was an unfortunate bounce" but Hamonic had ages to react and his response was to deflect it into the net. I still can't fathom how some people think he's a serviceable bottom pairing guy


hollasens

He didnt have ages lmao. Watching it in slow mo makes it seem like that. He's really fucking bad though and shouldn't be on this roster.


canuck_11

Dorion said he wasn’t going to give him a 2 year deal. Then proceeded to give him a 2 year deal with a no move clause.


Substantial_Copy3348

We are delusional as a fan base to lie this at hammonic’s feet. Did he have a terrible shift and put the GWG in his own net sure but anyone watching the last 30 minutes of that game knows we were destined to lose that game. I’ve never seen such easy entries into a defensive zone time and time again. We playing like we were on the pk for the entire 3rd. This team doesn’t win any battles, makes low probability plays and then has terrible gaps off the rush. Collectively we could play someone to injury Hammonic or get an Uber driver to record him talking shit about a coach but in reality sending him to the AHL won’t impact this team in the slightest


Middle-Hair

Think it’s fair that Hamonic drags down whoever his D partner is that given night. We’ve seen it with all of Sanderson, Chychrun and Brännström. Plus he has a NMC so he can’t get traded unless he wants to (assuming a team would take him), and you can’t waive him.


Substantial_Copy3348

I don’t disagree Hammonic is bad but honestly when the other 2 pairs were on the ice they were also getting hemmed in. We didn’t have a single good shift the last 30 mins and hammonic probably played less than 10 of those mins. So yeah I get being mad at how he has such a negative impact in such a short amount of time but when he’s not on the ice it’s not like we are early 2000s NJD


Middle-Hair

Saw a lot of takes early on that the Sens were playing great when in reality they capitalized on a few chances and were relying on Korpisalo big time. Eventually the dam broke. Top guys need to be better, especially Tkachuk. Only time I noticed him all night was his random fight early and then getting into it after the game. Be a fucking leader when it matters. Does this happen if the ref calls the boarding on Tarasenko? Probably not. Sens woulda been on the PP in the time that Arizona scored 2 goals. But shot happens and you gotta respond. Sens folded instead. Korpisalo was great 95% of that game but let in a weak tying goal. Then Hamonic boots in the game winner.


Blaauwj

Remember, these issues won’t be fixed in a day, not in a week, probably not even in a month. This squad needs a whole mentality change that will take a WHILE. Playoffs are out of the picture. Just enjoy the ride and hope to see progress from the boys… I know it’s fucking depressing but at this point that’s the most we can ask from this years Sens.


LouisFuton

Yup. Another year of waiting for decent fucking hockey.


TotSaM-

Are you the real Louis Futon? If you are I love your music. If not, I appreciate your taste in tunes.


LouisFuton

lol I am not but thanks


TotSaM-

👌


NotMY1stEnema

I AM THE REAL LOUIS FATONE!


eatingsolids

But, but all the other teams got new coach wins....


BigShoots

Fun fact: The Sens are now 0-7 in first games with a mid-season replacement coach.


SuperficialJosh

Is that fun though? Lol


Blaauwj

I know champ I know, but we aren’t like other teams :(


homicidal_penguin

DJ needed to be gone last offseason, if not then, then at least this offseason or before Sweden. This team developed so many bad habits under him, hopefully they can work them out


Blaauwj

I agree 100%, he should’ve been gone a long time ago, could’ve been a salvageable season if it was pre Sweden but we’ve dug ourselves a hole too deep to get out of… in the standings and in our horrendous play.


[deleted]

There's a caller on TSN 1200 right now saying "This is training camp" and that's pretty much right. Let's see where it goes.


SuperficialJosh

Jacques had all of one optional skate as head coach so yeah, expecting wholesale changes overnight would be a bit much.


NotMY1stEnema

they havent won a single game since Jacques took over


New-Blueberry-4854

Especially when our schedule is going to be pretty condensed with games there's less time to have practices and actually implement changes


goost95

The problem is 'seeing progress' is something we've seen from this team for 3 years in a row, and each time regression at the start of the season. Oh well, you're right.


Blaauwj

Trust me I know, I hate it so much, I just wanna watch a damn playoff game even if we get swept lol.


snailpubes

Don't forget full on lineup changes. LOOKING RIGHT AT YOU HAMONIC


JarethCutestoryJuD

Jack McBain plays with the gumption I *wish* Kastelic would


spencerr13

Alfies reaction to your checking winger doing a cardio skate fly by and change was everything to me


[deleted]

That was perfect. If there's one thing Alfie expects is for every player to do their job. 4th line has to finish checks, unacceptable to not do that.


spencerr13

Was even more unreal that Kasty spoke back like there was some kind of excuse for not doing his job, we went from 1-5th in hits under DJ every year of his tenure to bottom half of the league, we’re an easy team to play against rn. Hope they can change that


JarethCutestoryJuD

Kasty isnt playing the same game. 3 hits per game as a rookie. 2.5 last season 1 per game this year. Shot rates are down, shot attempts are down. Guys just fucking nothing out there


[deleted]

Just another example of the bitch mentality on this team. Not many of the guys in that room have any balls.


estyll11

I think the players collectively decided to lose one last game in honour of DJ Smith, and in the most DJ-Sens way possible. Jokes aside, I just took in that the Coyotes have somehow progressed further than us, and they were at the bottom of the league last year. It really shows how little this team has developed. I hope Jacques turns this group around.


Aichetoowhoa

Well let’s put that in perspective though. They’ve been rebuilding for 26 years. At least ours has been only 5


thunderkock25

The season was doomed the second we let DJ coach more than 10 games. Im so tired of watching this team struggle.


Ihaveabudgie

Exactly. Dude should have been gone before the Sweden trip at the absolute latest. Now Martin has to work on cleansing the stick that built up since the start of DJ's tenure and by the time he's done it will be wait too late


thunderkock25

The league really gifted us with the sweden trip to make a coaching change and give an interim as much time as possible to acclimate and we said nah lets stick it out with the guy whos been nothing but a failure til the season is unsalvagable.


Find_Spot

If we're doing ifs, buts and should haves, go further back. If the league had closed the sale in the spring or summer, Andlauer should have been able to get his own GM and coach in place. But that didn't happen so they had to run the season with DJ and Dorion and hope for the best. And then the absolute worst case happened.


spencerr13

I want to see Hammer healthy scratched, bring in the accountability era


TheGreatJohnny44

A part of me had that cautious optimism that I hadn’t felt in a while and then I got reminded why I am a fool.


RelationshipNo4528

Are you the guy I talked to earlier about this?


RelationshipNo4528

Nvm


RelationshipNo4528

All the players having a group call with dj crying rn while he says “it’s ok guys the effort was there”


RelationshipNo4528

Yes….hahaha…..yes….


SanctifiedDysecdysis

Had it, lost it.


BurnSalad

Holy shit they are bad


drunkbanana

By the end of Thursday they could be the worst team in the NHL. Haha ( kill me )


jonlmbs

Time to fire up draft lottery simulator again


[deleted]

I haven't paid attention, obviously there's no Bedard this year but is there anyone in the draft predicted to be an NHL player that would even help the team?


jonlmbs

Macklin Celebrini won’t hurt


DropCautious

Macklin Celebrini is the whitest hip hop name I’ve ever heard


Aukaneck

He sounds like a child actor from Home Alone 5.


Officerbudgie87

Macklin Celebrini


[deleted]

Celebrini is a very good player. He'd have probably gone #2 in last year's draft.


doubleopinter

I think it's time to admit, this team is reaallly bad..


jonlmbs

We’re staring down the barrel of another rebuild. People just don’t know it yet


[deleted]

It will be a retool. Our players are young with term, should be able to make some swaps for guys who can play now.


doubleopinter

Couldn’t agree more.


s3nsfan

That’s a bit dramatic.


JarethCutestoryJuD

> We’re staring down the barrel of another rebuild. People just don’t know it yet Thats just honestly not realistic. The contracts have been inked. The core is set. The cost to move out of those contracts at their lowest value would be so prohibitive it would handicap any rebuild they attempted. We have flexibility around the edges, but thats it.


Commercial-Charge191

Now that DJ is fired I don't know what to hope for, because it isn't playoffs


RelationshipNo4528

A vital sign


Perko

1st overall?


ceribaen

Hope that Martin can undo DJs work


rotnotbot

Dj has created a disease within this team that will take time to cure


jonlmbs

Playoffs doesn’t exist. Our playoffs is .5 now


CesareSomnambulist

3rd period is the new 2nd period boys These guys got what they deserved. Korpi kept them in it other than the soft 3rd goal. You can't expect to win getting almost doubled up in shots.


the_every_man

It’s gonna take a lot of Jacques/Alfie perfume to spray the stink off. They folded hard and their puck watching defence still sucks. Bath looked great, Timmy still does too much and dekes into people’s sticks. It’s brutal. We got a lot of biking left to do boys


cbisgodscountry

Deprogramming is going to take some time...we need patience now!


DallasJ2931

Haven’t seen a team this dysfunctional in awhile holyyyy


_Kony_2020

I'm so fucking frustrated at everything right now. 3rd period was a fucking abomination


Salt-Government698

This team is just unbelievable. I know it's one game but dude this core looks awful. Wtf happened to Brady and Stu?


Spidey_Almighty

Can you imagine if they lose against Colorado and show up at Saturday at home with 0/10 points from the road trip. Because I can. And now I can’t sleep.


Ripsyd

That’s what most of us expected lol


Spidey_Almighty

So disappointing. Just so disappointing.


komputernik

Well at least I watched a whole game this time. That missed penalty turned the team into spun sugar.


shohto

That was fucking brutal, we were holding up very well for a 2nd period up until then


DMZOrchards

I just wanted a damn loser point.


thunderkock25

insane that this team cannot keep games close. we either win or lose by 2+ goals. Imagine what last season would have been like if we could have forced a few more games to OT.


NailRX

Season is done. This team is broken. I’m now focused on JM to assess if these players are able to play together. Hoping the “retool” is a quick one.


KingKarl65sens

I was always mad at dorion for trading away our 1st during Bedards draft year. This team is still nowhere close to playoffs. What's this year's draft class looking like ? No Bedards/McDavids I'm guessing ?


thunderkock25

good thing we get to give up another one sometime in the next 3 years due to Dorions incompetence.


Fit-Ad-5719

Maybe Andlauer will appeal it in a few years like Jersey did and not have to give it up?🤷‍♂️


thunderkock25

I hope so, but i’m not gonna hold my breath. Bettman isn’t exactly known for being favorable to Canadian teams.


MercSLSAMG

They'll hold off until 2026 to forfeit it (unless they go deep in the playoffs next year) and likely hope for the NJ treatment and get the last pick of the 1st round instead of a total forfeit.


Puzzled_Ad7334

Cellebrini (I think that’s his name) is supposedly good but not mcdavid/bedard good


DestroyedLibtard

Honestly, we needed this so Martin could watch this team fall apart from the bench, lots to learn from here, that first period was a really nice refresher, and Korpisalo saved us until he couldn’t anymore, made some incredible saves but can’t let that third one in


gibtron9000

Can we all agree that Hamonic should be the next guy to go?


Middle-Hair

They can’t just move him, Dorion gave him a NMC. Can’t waive him and even if someone is willing to take him he’d have to agree to the trade. He’s probably gonna get bought out this off-season.


thunderkock25

another masterclass from Dorion. Saddled us with an incompetent burden and made it near impossible to get rid of him.


Amazing-Place-8182

Absolute bullshit game from Tkachuk, where the fuck is he for 95% of games? Is he injured or just being upset? The dude is a ghost, constantly or he’s giving the puck away while skating unfathomably slowly. You absolutely need better from your captain, to lead by example, if the coaching change doesn’t shake him up, what will?


shohto

Shit game but i gotta ask, where was the cross check directly on the numbers that was the sole reason for Arizona's second goal? Literal TSN turning point, a few missed calls followed that. Not blaming the refs but holy smokes they were almost as bad as us tonight


[deleted]

Yeah, we didn't deserve to win that but having that 2nd one go in like that hurts.


shohto

Getting them back within 1 is astronomical for their momentum, of all the missed calls I can't believe they actually let that one fly. We were holding it down up until that point


Ripsyd

2nd and third. They were 33 seconds apart and we should have been on the PP for that 33 seconds


shohto

The worst part is we were fine up until then. A lot of their shots had to come from outside the box, the one time they got in was that one play. Complete momentum shift by the officials


[deleted]

What's Randy Cunneyworth up to these days?


drunkbanana

We have to go play in Colorado next? Oof


spencerr13

They just got beaten by the Blackhawks, so of course they’ll be hungry


Spidey_Almighty

Stayin up till midnight to watch the Sens cough up a 3 goal lead in the new coaching staff debut wasn’t exactly the ideal scenario. Stays strong mentally my friends! We still have the opportunity to go on a 55 game winning streak and make playoffs!


VesaAwesaka

The Sens have given up 4 goals or more in 10 of the last 14 games. They have won one of those games. The game against detroit where they blew a 4 goal lead.


SolizeMusic

The Sens simply don't play 60 minutes. That doesn't mean you don't ever give up goals and dominate all the time, it means a balanced game for 60 minutes where you don't just completely shell up for a period and pray for a good outcome when the other team is constantly whipping quality chances on your goalkeeper. 3rd goal was bad from Korpi but that ignores all the other show-stopping saves he had to make that would've actually made this a blowout for AZ. I really hope the chokejobs are old habits from DJ Smith being a dumbass all these years and Jacques can start implementing new systems and changes. Give it 10-20 games and if nothing changes it becomes pretty clear some players are holding the team back and those players need to go. Playoffs are most definitely out of the picture, DJ should've been dropped way sooner.


[deleted]

DJ might have actually ruined our rebuild, and I'm not even joking.


DirtZestyclose1891

tkachuk trying to fight at the end. wtf dude. game is over. why are you trying to start shit now. let arz enjoy the win. play better


homicidal_penguin

He's a sore loser. It's getting so old


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homicidal_penguin

What a joke. This team is soft as baby shit. They can't hold a lead, they couldn't do fucking anything after the first Also Timmy needs to wake the fuck up. All he does is try to go hero mode and loses the puck


Spidey_Almighty

Timmy definitely tries to do too much sometimes. Honestly though I can see why he does it. He’s like the only person than can get in the o-zone. He sometimes hangs on to it too long, and then you have almost everyone else who can’t keep the puck long enough. Just no cohesion. So frustrating.


LouisFuton

So fucking infuriating. It’s crazy that I felt they were going to blow it the second the Coyotes scored the 1st one. Season is officially over. Done watching games unless they start up a big streak.


strippeddonkey

I audibly said “this is just who they are.” When someone shows you who they are, believe them.


PartyPalHal

I'm just laughing hysterically. Of fucking course lol.


Calhalen

Only saw the last 10 minutes. Basically saw the same old shit, Timmy’s lackadaisical puck clears were just awful giveaways in disguise. Like could you try a bit harder there please lol. And we had 0 shots and were just stuck in our end the entire team. Please let us fix this quickly


Xpert9026

Classic sens. Good first period, second period could have been a lot better, and they absolutely collapse in the third, leaving Korpi out to dry, fall apart in their own zone, and have no offence whatsoever


Scallybrat

Welcome to Ottawa Senators hockey where all leads are made up and the games don't matter.


amach9

Just gotta wait until 2027 it seems….. 2007, 2017, 2027 😕


LouisFuton

Laughing stock of the league once again


thunderkock25

An insane feat for a team that plays in the same league that has a franchise that was kicked out of their own arena and forced to play in a 5,000 seat college arena.


Tubbzs

This team sucks so much fucking dick.


VesaAwesaka

Well...at least there should be a lot of film to break down


AlfieMartini

2 hours on the exercise bikes after that sad display.


Admirable-Bear-6542

Crookshank and Kubilik only played ~12mins each and I noticed them more than anyone else on the ice. Also, Sandy looked like he was fighting it out there.


NailRX

Hawks won tonight, sharks losing so far. We are 1 point away from last place.


Salt-Government698

While Norris and Batherson have improved, Brady and Timmy have gotten worse over the course of the season. They have been downright awful at times recently. Let's see what kind of leadership Brady really has. He either changes his game and commits to two-way hockey or he's going to end up the scapegoat for this franchise. I don't understand why people like Kelly and Kastelic. They bring nothing. We can do so much better


PoochieTheRockinDog-

Instead of getting pissed off that the refs fucked them in front of all 300 fans that fit in that arena on that second goal they decided to entirely give up instead. Fucking pathetic. Again.


boro74

I think the moment they lost was when Josh Norris failed to chop down the guy that hit Tarasenko from behind. If Norris would have cross checked him down, the refs probably would have had to call offsetting penalties. But he just kind of watched him creep to the slot. Protect your teammates guys the refs are not going to.


itsYell

🌚


Ripsyd

Laid a big fat stinker


ghettoworkout

Bah humbug!


CockerSpanielEnjoyer

Lol


jswizzlemcdizzle

Is this a good sign? I’m traumatized so I can’t tell anymore.


3cwya

Missed call. Shit goal. Then hammer. It's always something...


Hoxtilicious

All in all, that was one of the most backbreaking, devastating, soul crushing losses I feel like I’ve ever seen.


BigShoots

I felt exactly nothing. If anything it was pretty funny. And that's just really sad. They've led me by the hand through all the grief phases in just 27 games, all the way to Acceptance.


fraserinottawa

Embarrassing.


KingGuy124

this is the funniest shit ever, why are we the way that we are?


Ambassador_Kwan

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Lumberfarmer9000

Even my wife, who knows nothing about hockey, said. "Of course they lost again."


Valentine96

They almost had us fooled for 20 minutes. This team has been coached to play poorly for 4 years. I'm not even sure they can unlearn their habits. Worst game I've ever seen by Stu.


FixedTheNewelPost

100% Agree on Stu's worst game in the NHL. Trying to show the coach how great you are, and turnover the break-in twice on the same PP? He's used to his icetime being untouchable.


Valentine96

Did he even make a single successful pass in the game? Sure didn't look like it. Jacques should bench him for a game to show the players that nobody is untouchable when you're that much of a liability.


FixedTheNewelPost

Jaques could absolutely cut his minutes for Norris and Greig and it would be justified. The evolution of Stutzle under new coaching is going to be a great story to watch.


MaximizedLoL

Another game we let the goalie down. We spent the whole fucking 3rd in our zone.


Senastar

This just hurts


JasperSlavone

Lmao we’re so back (sad edition)


Ripsyd

Arizona straight up wanted that more. In the second half of the game they outpaced the fuck out of us. They were flying around We could hardly get control of the puck Yikes


aviaquatica

Feels like collapsing late is our destiny.


3cwya

Ugh come on


RelationshipNo4528

Need these players doing suicides after this game like in miracle. Pull out that whistle Martin


jonlmbs

Typical Sens game


BigShoots

They flashed odds of -610 for the Sens to not make the playoffs. That means you'd have to risk $610 just to win $100 if they don't make it.


jonlmbs

Playoffs should not even be a word in our vocabulary


smallfrynip

You have that backwards.


BigShoots

No I don't. If we can all bet $100 right now to win $610 if the Sens don't make the playoffs then everyone should be liquefying all of their assets right now to get in on this.


smallfrynip

I misread your comment LOL I read “for the Sens TO make the playoffs” and I was really confused. My b.


NailRX

I’m still hopeful we can get 1 point from this road trip. I think it’s possible.


Smooth_Ad_3309

Gutted


jonlmbs

What’s our record with/without chabot?


[deleted]

Go Sens Go... Go Sen-a-FUCKIN' PIECE OF DOG SHIT! This team is diarrhea comin' outta my dick! This team is as appealing as a fuckin' ooze-infested dirty fuckin' sewer rat shit! I've had more fun playing with dog turds! Brady's my ass and Stützle's my balls! This team is an inside-out asshole regurgitating putrid anal fecal matter! I'd rather fuckin' yank all the hairs out of my scrotum! I'd rather drink diarrhea vomited out of a buffalo's anus! They suckin' fuck, they fuckin' suck, THEY FUCKIN' BLOW, THEY'RE PIECES OF SHIT... and I don't like em.


VNV4Life

It's amazing what you can get for a billion dollars these days!


[deleted]

I'll see you guys in 2024-25. Fuck this team.


blewdreaming

Get a new GM by the trade deadline, no one should be off table


MaximizedLoL

Lol Tim and Sandy are untouchable. Anyone else can be moved.


TotSaM-

We couldn't even ride the new coach bump. Sad.


RyRy39

I’ll be dead by the time this team makes the playoffs.


Hinkadoo

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eatingsolids

I feel bad for Ross and Pilzy


Nearby_Leadership_33

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think D is the issue. Need a couple more stay at home Methot type guys just my opinion


RangerDanger10

FIRE DJ SM…oh wait


Gay_N_Racist

Fire Jacques!


DirtZestyclose1891

honesty more pissed that they cant accept they suck. why are they always trying to start shit at the end like sore losers. play harder. its like there sulking like babies


gelc10

Still some work that needs to be done, looked like they were defending the early 3 goal lead rather than add to it. Old habits are hard to let go.


Sens-eh

Where are those guys who yesterday were so sure we would suddenly make the playoffs by magic after the coaching change? It’s going to take time to unlearn all those bad habits.


shtoopsy

Everyone calm their tits.


valleygoat

Well we got what everyone wanted. DJ fired, but then we put up possibly the worse game so far on this road trip. Woohoo!


NotAChefJustACook

Not even close to worst game


BAD_CAN77

Don't worry about that poster. Just trying to justify all the BS he's spread over the past few years.