just because something is a blindspot doesnt mean its an excuse. you still have to make sure that theres no one there. kaya nga may kasama ung truck driver to make sure na walang tao sa blind spot un.
edit: [https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/](https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/)
yall can maybe read first because its your vehicle, you should be in control of it all the time. Akala niyo di kayo kamote. LOL.
As much as I want you to be right ba maging responsable rin mga truck drivers, it's not often the case and you're always going to be the biggest loser pag nagulungan ka ng truck na umaatras.
Caution is better.
Nothing wrong with your statement, but so is the downvoted comment. Checking thoroughly your blind spots and anticipating yours and others’, it’s just practice of defensive driving.
The only question here is who has the last clear chance.
Buhay pinaguusapan, di gender or sweldo o feelings.
Theres a reason na ang LTO, even with all their faults, sinasabihan ang mga drivers na "wag ipilit ang karapatan" kasi ang mga sasakyan ay mga oversized na bala na pwede mong ikamatay. Ikaw mismo iiwas sa mga di makakitang truck, sa mga mayayabang na kotse, sa mga balasubas na jeepney driver, sa mga tarantadong EV drivers, at sa kapwa mo nagmomotor.
Drive defensively and live to see another day.
oo per katulad nung dowvoted comment ni oop di naman nya sinabi na hindi mag ingat ang sinabi lang nya liable pa rin ang truck dito kasi responsibility nya rin to be safe sa ibang drivers
sinasabi ko lang bakit parang walang kasalanan yung truck eh alam nya na di nya kita yung likod nya tapos aatras sya ng walang tumtulong sa kanya, paano kung naglalakad na tao yun? di rin naman nila malalaman na naataras kasi walang sign na aatras.
Eto nga ang rason na kung bakit di mo dapat palitan ang nga truck na umaandar, kasalanan man niya o hindi, ikaw ang pinaka lugi, di ko lang alam sa iba pero yan talaga tinuro sakin ng tatay ko nung nagsisimula pa lang ako nag drive.
Bro, ang unang tanong kung sino mali, di yung sino lugi sa aksidente. So pag mas malaki lugi yun yung basehan kung sino ang mali sa aksidente? Gets ko yung point mo pero wag mo gamitin yan para i twist king sino ang mali sa dalawa. Parehas sila may pagkukulang, walang umaalalay sa truck habang umaatras, motor tumambay sa alanganin. Pero at the end of the day pareho silang nasa public road at ang truck ang kontra sa flow ng traffic kaya nagulungan ang motor. So ang mali at ang may liability parin jan is yung truck.
Now I may have been a bit harsh putting all the blame sa motor pero it bears repeating that you shouldn't put yourself in that situation as a rider. So yes, both are to blame pero the bigger fault is at the rider for putting himself there.
No, di mo lang din talaga ma gets. Pinag sasama mo kasi yung magka ibang subject. Pagiging kamote ng naka motor at sino yung sino may kasalanan at liable sa aksidente. Nandon na tayo, yung motor yung naglagay sa sarili niya sa alanganing pwesto pero again public road yan at ang truck ang kontra sa flow ng traffic kahit pa na nasa blindspot pwesto ng motor.
Pwede mo sabihin yan sa huli as a moral of the story na wag mangamote para maka iwas sa aksidente. Pero di mo pwede gamitin yan para sabihin na motor ang nag cause ng aksidente.
Gets na ng majority yan, kahit pag bali baliktarin mo ang mundo, di mo na maibabalik ang buhay na nawala or nasirang property sa accident pero kahit pag bali baliktarin mo rin ang mundo di mo pwede ibaling ang sisi sa kakulangan ng isa sa talagang gumawa ng accident. Mag ka iba yun. Kaya nga nila laging tinuturo ang defensive driving para ikaw na mismo ang maka iwas sa maaring mag cause sayo ng accident.
Kahit kelan di mo pwedeng gamitin or ilaban ang pag pasok sa blindspot as cause of accident. Pero ang pag atras oh pag andar kontra sa flow ng traffic sa public road ay oo.
Magkaiba ang pag iwas sa aksidente at ang pagiging sanhi ng aksidente. Sana maintindihan mo.
kung sino nakakaintindi sya dapat umintindi. in this case nkkta na ng motorcycle driver yun whole situation nagtangatangahan pa din sya.
alam nya ng walang signal lights yun truck etc.
yeah wala ngang signal lights, which is in violation of the law, ibig sabihin may kamalian din ung truck. Technically speaking ung truck ung nagbanga siya ung mali. Just because you fail to drive defensively, doesnt mean its his fault na nasira ung motor niya. The truck was still backing up without looking.
The truck is still backing up without looking? Tell me exactly how a driver can look directly at his rear a few feet away from the doors of the container cargo?? Sa mga pinagsasabi mo mukhang di kapa nakakapag drive ng truck, much more big elongated loads like full size containers.
Think about this, what IF, instead na pumunta yung rider dun, he STAYED BACK and maintained distance?? Naka abot siguro yung spotter sa likod no? And hindi perpekto tong mga to, lalo na kung papasok yan at galing sa matagalang byahe, mas gugustuhin matapos na agad kesa matagalan, I fail to see why you consider the truck driver to be the problem here even if they did a few things wrong and had some flaws, biggest fault that was done is yung rider na PUMUNTA deliberately sa likod ng truck, and stayed there looking at the backing up truck hindi gumagalaw.
because he was last to move. Based on the law, he was the one who hit the motorcycle. the motorcycle didnt hit him. Thats how it works. so i park a car behind you and last you looked, i wasnt there, then continued to back up, you still hit me. Why would i be liable? you were the one that moved into my car.
there are a bunch of other variables that could have prevented this. i can point to alot of other arbitrary things that dont really mean much. like based on the law, vehicles that are not road worthy are not supposed to be on the road. why is a truck with no hazard lights on the road?The accident would have never happened if the truck wasnt there in the first place. but that doesnt matter.
Last to move cannot apply here as the rider himself put him in a bad position. He can technically still move and is able to, pbut he put himself there and decided to stand his ground sa truck.
Napaka simple ng situation, nagka ubo utak niya tapos nagka problema kasi nangyari yung nangyari, yes theres problems with the truck, yea, no spotter, but who tf in their right mind parks directly behind a truck?? Who STAYS directly behind a truck?
In a case in which both parties had flaws and is at fault, mas malaki ang fault ng rider simply because it is a choice he made that lead to such a situation, a vastly different outcome would have happened had he not went and stayed there
He lights may be busted but he still has his auditory cues on. Do not force your rights on the road and protest, especially not to a big vehicle, you'll lose big time.
Ang tanga ng comment mo. Literal. Defensive driving palagi hindi ung pag lalaban mo na tama ka at mali ung isa. Sabagay kung patay ka na naman ikaw babayaran.
Exactly. Defensive driving IS a must **AT ALL TIMES**.
Sabi nga, aanhin mo ang right of way kung baldado o patay ka na? Tama ka nga sa mata ng batas, pero hanggang dun na lang yun. Di bale nang walang compensation, basta safe lagi.
just because you failed to do a best practice, doesnt mean its not the trucks fault for backing up and not looking. Sino nga ung may mali, which is both.
[https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/](https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/)
you people claim to actually know how to drive, but thats not the case. You dont even know your own responsibilities.
"Now, while everyone around you should be aware of your vehicle’s blind spots, ultimately your own blind spots are your own problem to bear.
It’s you and you alone who are in charge—and should be in control—of your own vehicle at all times. Blind spots are no excuse; part of the privilege of being able to drive is the responsibility to absolutely make sure that you do not hurt or kill another person while in command of your vehicle."
ang dami talagang mangmang dito sa pinas.
"Give yourself some distance and berth from passing around a vehicle, especially a large one. Even if you may still be in view of a mirror, be aware that a driver may not be conscious of your presence if he or she doesn’t look at the mirror."
Kung sino ang aware, siya ang mayroong mas mataas na responsibilidad na umiwas pagkat kita naman sa video na siya ang pumunta duon sa blind spot ng truck CONSCIOUSLY and DELIBERATELY, the truck driver did not want him to be there nor told him to go there, along with not being FORCED to go there. He himself made it so he is in a precarious position since wala ngang signal yung truck. But at the same time, why risk it when hindi pa nga nakaka lampas yung isang nag maneobra na truck?
Seems like common sense naman na wag pepwesto sa likod ng trucks and naka lagay pa nga maintain distance. Tapos truck driver may kasalanan? Should the driver get out of his truck every few seconds kapag aatras to make sure no dumbass ay nakapila sa likod nya?? Because there is absolutely no other way to check the exact rear of a truck especially a big container load
Oh and another one, the Visor article talks about and shows diagrams for a CAR, which you can look behind at, not a big TRUCK with a load. So is this article still viable to be quoted upon for this accident?
Madami nga talagang mangmang
If I'm not mistaken, the doctrine of last clear chance appiles here. See here: https://elibrary.judiciary.gov.ph/thebookshelf/showdocs/23/67129#:~:text=The%20doctrine%20of%20last%20clear%20chance%20states%20that%20where%20both,failed%20to%20do%20so%20is
thats why they have spotters that help them maneuver and back up. the same still applies for trucks. I copy pasted the bottom line. yes you should be aware of other peoples blindspots, but ULTIMATELY " your own blind spots are your own problem to bear."
you can try reading the whole thing again, till the end, if you would like. It doesnt change that the trucks blindspots are his responsibility.
If you look at the video again, it seems as if the supposed spotter ay wala pa sa posisyon, and obviously ganun nga kasi walang tao sa likod. And the truck was parked. Common sense naman. Bakit pupunta sa likod ng truck lalo na nag mamaneobra pa yung nasa kaliwa?? Tapos umaatras na naka tayo lang sya sa likod mismo??
huh. so why bring the spotter then if youre not going to wait for him to get into position before backing up? Isnt that common sense as well?
The motorist could have missed he was going to back up because the hazard lights of the truck are broken. also idk why you would do that, i barely want to drive past trucks when im in a car but thats not relevant. Collective katangahan ng dalawang nagmamaneho. anyway you can believe the article or insist your point. whatever. basa basa din kayo,
I dont fully believe in an article simply because we are all humans and therefore can have flaws, the article's main audience are car drivers that most likely do NOT drive trailer trucks, so their subjects and topics applies best to them, it starts to not be applicable in situations like these, show me an article that has a topic about big trailer trucks specifically from Visor? Syempre wala, kasi hindi naman yun audience nila.
Btw, na miss nya na umaatras yung truck? Need paba ng lights para mapansin yung malaking container papalapit ng papalapit sayo? Yea, seems like kinukulang talaga sa common sense yung rider kung nasabi mong ganyan
Put yourself in the truck driver's seat. That's why it's called a blind spot for a reason. You can't have eyes everywhere. Even a spotter has blind spots.
Now, the rider on the other hand has had ample space and ample time to keep a safe distance from the truck. Still he managed to get himself in a dangerous situation.
Conclusion: DON'T BE A KAMOTE, MAN.
ok, so why isnt the spotter looking in the direction where the truck is going? So if theres a kid there that gets run over, its ok cause its a blindspot? im saying theyre both in the wrong. A blind spot is not an excuse.Kaya nga may spotter di ba? the truck should not be going if the space isnt cleared. How hard is that to understand.
I would say that the driver, if he should be at fault here, did not intentionally cause the rider's endangerment. Even if there was a spotter in this case and was able to warn the truck driver in time, try stopping a 20 ton truck in an instant.
The rider on the other hand, deliberately and wilfully endangered herself.
Nobody said that a blind spot is a blanket excuse to whatever. It's basically Darwin Awards at this point. And the rider would have been an awardee if not for sheer luck.
Edit: changed the rider's gender.
[https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/](https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/)
you people claim to actually know how to drive, but thats not the case. You dont even know your own responsibilities.
"Now, while everyone around you should be aware of your vehicle’s blind spots, ultimately your own blind spots are your own problem to bear.
It’s you and you alone who are in charge—and should be in control—of your own vehicle at all times. Blind spots are no excuse; part of the privilege of being able to drive is the responsibility to absolutely make sure that you do not hurt or kill another person while in command of your vehicle."
ang dami talagang mangmang dito sa pinas.
[https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/](https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/)
you people claim to actually know how to drive, but thats not the case. You dont even know your own responsibilities.
"Now, while everyone around you should be aware of your vehicle’s blind spots, ultimately your own blind spots are your own problem to bear.
It’s you and you alone who are in charge—and should be in control—of your own vehicle at all times. Blind spots are no excuse; part of the privilege of being able to drive is the responsibility to absolutely make sure that you do not hurt or kill another person while in command of your vehicle."
ang dami talagang mangmang dito sa pinas.
sinabi ko ba na ikaw ung nagmamaneho? The truck driver nga should be responsible for his vehicle. Mahirap bang intindihin un? So bakit dinedefend mo naman ung truck driver, wala ka namang kinalaman dyan.
Nah, you don’t understand how it works. Kasi ipagpipilitan mo pa din yung dahil walang reverse light yung truck kaya andun yung kamote na motorista 🤪. Sigurado hindi mo din mag gets na small portion lang ng problema yan sa kalye. 😂
Exactly, kaso you live in the Philippines and kahit ipagpilitan mo yan kakainin ka lang ng truck as a rider. Mas mabuti nang ikaw ang umiwas atleast safe ka.
yeah, best practice yun. Pero di naman ibig sabihin walang kasalanan ung truck kasi nga, siya ung nagrereverse, dapat siya ung tumitingin kung may tao o hindi. Nakikita ko kasi sinasabi ung motor lang ung may kamalian, which is wrong.
>edit: https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/
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>yall can maybe read first because its your vehicle, you should be in control of it all the time. Akala niyo di kayo kamote. LOL.
Look man, I know you're getting down voted to all hell BUT YES, BLINDSPOTS ARE THE TRUCKERS FAULT, PERO di mo to maiiwasan pag nasa likuran ka na ng umaatras na truck-- driving defensively means you cannot rely on others to correct their actions so YOU WOULD BE SAFE.
Maybe I was a little harsh for putting all the blame on the rider BUT HE STILL SHOULD RIDE DEFENSIVELY.
Excuse or not, pag magulungan ka ng truck, your family gets 100k, theres a chance that the truck driver will face less jail time and YOU'LL BE DEAD-- sounds like a shit deal, I'd rather be alive and not go directly into a truck's blind spot.
[https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/](https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/)
you people claim to actually know how to drive, but thats not the case. You dont even know your own responsibilities.
"Now, while everyone around you should be aware of your vehicle’s blind spots, ultimately your own blind spots are your own problem to bear.
It’s you and you alone who are in charge—and should be in control—of your own vehicle at all times. Blind spots are no excuse; part of the privilege of being able to drive is the responsibility to absolutely make sure that you do not hurt or kill another person while in command of your vehicle."
ang dami talagang mangmang dito sa pinas.
so did i say it was soley on the truck? a motorcycle weaving in and out of traffic is wrong too. BUT ultimately to answer whos at fault, its the truck. Not bothering to check before backing up is a huge no no for all drivers, no matter what youre driving. Kaya nga kung napapansin mo, laging may kasama ung truck drivers dito, minsan dalawa nga eh.
The law will punish the truck driver alone. But the motorcycle driver is the real reason there's an accident here. Pinoy diskarte kasi kapag may space, doon din sila mag singit. Mahirap ba talag na mag hintay Ng turn mo?
NGL there area lot of accidents that happen because motorcycles just cant wait. Totoo un na pasingit singit sila. But is it so hard for filipinos to understand na may kasalanan din ung truck driver?
Nope, the real reason why theres an accident here is nagcompound ung katangahan nilang dalawa. Dapat di nagback up ung truck na wala ung spotter. Inassume lang niya na walang tao or vehicle dun. Assuming makes an ass out of u and me. Wala ding hazaard lights ung truck. Di dapat nasa daan yan kung wala un. Kaya may motor inspection requirements tayo bago marehistro.
Sa katangahan ng motor, naiintindi mo na un kaya di ko na iuulit.
Kasi if may nabanggaan yung Truck na stationary, buong fault niya sana. Pero hindi yun ang nangyari. Eto ang kamote nag singit talaga at nag 😮 pa.
The truck has a blind spot but the truck is a truck and therefore huge. How would anyone not see a truck in front of them? So tell me, who's at fault? The truck driver who can't totally see what's behind him? Or the motorcycle driver who deadass can see what's in front of him but still risks his life to save a few minutes in their commute?
Btw, trucks don't need 2 people. Other countries only have 1 person handling the truck. A spotter isn't necessary. It's only made necessary cuz of how our roads are built and because of suicidal motorists.
[https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/](https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/)
you people claim to actually know how to drive, but thats not the case. You dont even know your own responsibilities.
"Now, while everyone around you should be aware of your vehicle’s blind spots, ultimately your own blind spots are your own problem to bear.
It’s you and you alone who are in charge—and should be in control—of your own vehicle at all times. Blind spots are no excuse; part of the privilege of being able to drive is the responsibility to absolutely make sure that you do not hurt or kill another person while in command of your vehicle."
ang dami talagang mangmang dito sa pinas.
Actually sa technology ngayon dapat nirerequire nang lagyan ng rear camera yang mga truck and armored car. Merong solution so solve that blind spot hindi lang inaasikaso
This. nakakapagtaka, we're in a digital age and advance na ung technology, bakit wala paring reverse cam ung mga truck? Like wtf? kumportable na sila sa "Ay blindspot ko yang likod, malaking truck ako! kayo mag adjust", tangena
3rd world country tayo if i may remind you. Maraming "dapat" pero di nangyyari. Camera sa truck is one of the less important ordinance na kailangan ng bansa natin. Jeep nga na kakaragkarag at maitim ang usok di natin maphase out phase out what more an additional regulations with these trucks.
Mayayaman din naman yung mga mayari ng logistics companies, di naman barya barya kinikita ng mga yan. Siguro if may bagong regulation requiring them to have a rear camera, madali na sa mga kumpanya
If it isn't broken, don't fix it, kumbaga. Tingin siguro nila, unecessary yang rear cam. Gastos pa, e di naman required. Bear in mind, minimum capital, maximum profit ang galawan. Kaya I agree, need ng regulation talaga.
Ganto mag isip mga chinese. Which is the owners of these kind of businesses. Punta ka binondo. Pangit CR, pangit ng building, mukang luma at palugi na pero milyon milyon pera hahaha.
Dude, kadalasan nilalagay lang yung mga lalagyanan ng container at yung container mismo (as you can see in the white truck). Yung mga trucks, maiikli lang talaga yan. So paano mo lalagyan ng camera yun? Kaya kung mapapansin mo, yung rear plate numbers nila, nasa gitna. Unless kung ang build niya is ganon na talaga, pero karamihan hindi.
"ang magaling na truck driver di umaasa sa camera" di na ako magtataka kung ganyan magiging komento ng mga truck driver dyan. Heck even on newer cars with complete 360 camera + sensor ganyan pa din sentiment ng iba eh. Parang mga tanga
Cost vs benefit. Yung mismong truck nga di man lang maayos paano pa gagastusan ang accessories? Not to mention na di naman uso kabitan ng rear view cam sa cargo bed kasi ikakabit mo pa ang electronics from the truck papunta sa likod.
don’t underestimate the cheapness of some businessman. They are willing to cut cost even to the tiniest of expenses for a bigger profit. It’s evident to the fact that most of the trucks in our country are so old that it would even be illegal to operate in some countries.
Budget lng kulang 😅😅😅
With how businessmen work, isasawalang bahala nila ito unless punishable or have penalties included pag nilabag/di sinunod.
Ang dami mga luma at dapat na tlga palitan na vehicle pero patuloy pa din ginagamit for whatever way just to cut expenses
Dapat me spotter si truck habang umaatras, baka yung tumakbo yung spotter nya talaga.
All clear dapat bago umatras yung truck. Sa state nya nung dumaan ang motor parked pa sya. So in the strictest sense kasalanan ni truck.
Pero dapat tayong naka MC ay mag effort sa safety natin at mag duda sa lahat ng situation na dadatnan naten.
The moment na yung motor hindi nagbigay ng tamang space nor put his place in a visible spot mali na yung motor dun. Ang hihilig kase sumingit ni walang busina.
I disagree. Kakaalis pa lang nung isang truck, atras na agad yung isa. Di man lang hinintay yung spotter na bigyan sya ng go ahead. At hindi nga nagmamadali yung motor e, hinintay nyang makalarga yung truck bago sya pumasok. Hindi naman sya sumingit habang umaandar na yung truck. I agree maraming kamoteng 2 wheels pero this is not one of them.
Ang mali jan wag mo nang hintayin yung spotter. Ehh kung walang spotter? Like I said sarili nya nag dala jan so don't blame it to others. Sya yung nakakakita hindi yung truck driver. Ano ka VIP? Gusto mo pa lapitan ka ng pahinante "boss amo aatras po" ganun?
just give a proper distance wag kaseng tutok ng tutok sinasabi naman sa LTO yan, or baka fixer kase kaya di na inform.
Again, I disagree. Kung may kamote man, yun ay yung unang motor na sumingit agad at yung truck driver na nagmamadaling umalis. Kita sa video na hindi nagmadali yung 2nd MC, kung sa proper distance man lang, hinintay nya munang makaalis yung unang truck bago sya pumasok.
Unfortunately, nagmadali yung pangalawang truck na sumunod kaya naatrasan nya yung MC. Nasa likod na nya yung 2nd MC bago sya magsimulang umatras. Kung hindi nagfixer yung truck driver, alam nya dapat na triple ingat sya dahil napalaki ng dala nya. Meron naman silang spotter, bat hindi pa nya hinintay. Again, nasa likod na nya yung motor bago sya maghazard at magsimulang umatras.
both. Stop weaving in and out of traffic and look before you decide to go into someone whos actively backing up already.
and jesus fix your truck and make sure its all working wtf.
may pagkukulang sa truck walang indicator na mag reverse pero ang bobo din kasi ng rider nakaugalian nan sumiksik kaya lagi nakadikit sa ibang sasakyan
edit: wala rin pala awareness si tanga kitang umaatras yung truck pero siya tuloy pa rin sa pag abante. hindi naman pala biglaang umatras
Parehas silang may mali.
1. Ang rider ay masyadong nakadikit sa likod ng truck. Always keep distance at all times.
2. Walang reverse lights ang truck
3. Walang pahinante para mag guide sa driver ng truck para safe ang pag maneuver
Yung rider. Kapag articulated ang vehicles mas madalas malaki ang kanilang blind spot.
Kapag may na-encounter kayo na ganitong scenario. Make sure na may ample space si trailer. Ang ample space ay proportional sa kanyang size.
I always distance myself from a trailer na moving or nagre-ready na for parking. This is to give them ample space to move and adjust.
Pareho mali. Walang signal or reverse lights yung truck tapos si ateng na rider dapat hindi siya nagstay sa likod ng truck.. shoots!!! Kahit ako iwas na iwas ako sa mga truck lalo sa ganyan kalaki.. either paunahin ko sila or nagsstop ako sa gilid ng kalsada then kpg malayo na saka ako mag go ulit haha sorry takot kc ako sa truck tlga may trauma ako
Mostly fault ng rider for not being attentive and pinilit pang dumikit sa truck, eh dinig naman niya (hopefully) na may beeping yung truck means umaatras.
Binusinahan pa nga niya parang nagmatigas pa.
Though may fault din yung truck siyempre pero could've avoided kung umiwas nalang si rider
Pasabi sa friend mo sa susunod be alert sa mga trucks lalo na sa likod, kahit no tail lights. Dapat sense nya na moving yung truck.
Tho may mali din yung truck, no tail light at hindi alerto ang spotter nya or hindi nakikinig/tinitignan yung sign ng spotter nya.
couldn't agree more! like, I drive every day, na bangga na ako ng motor na kasalanan nila 4x already. Now, I'm so frustrated and traumatized gusto ko na mag lagay ng bullbar sa front and rear metal bar sa likod ng pickup ko. tang.ina talaga mga kamote. hahaha
isa talaga sa mga pet peeves ko is yung naka signal na ako na mag right turn, then suddenly, may naka motor na bigla nalang susulpot and right turn din, wtf talaga.
Technically, may mali ang truck. No reverse lights. Naka park na din ang motor. Pero common sense na lang sana ng MC na may nag maneuver na truck. What is 3-4 seconds na Pag antay. Also, blind spot ng truck at di dapat saya dumikit sa truck. Nasa driver's manual nman yan
Lesson learned. Wag na wag kang pwepwesto sa kahit anong blind spot ng truck na hindi ka nag paparamdam. (Busina/Flash light). Ung mga sanay makasalamuha ang mga truck, alam na alam yan. Nagmaniobra kasi ung isang truck, expected ng umatras na truck n walang vehicle sa likod kasi kaka maniobra lng eh. Kaso aun nga, nagmadali pumasok. Buti di ka natuluyan atrasan. Yan pa naman SOP ng mga truck drivers
Medyo di related pero... Sana ipagbawal na talaga yung pag mamaniobra sa kalsada para makapasok sa parking. Nose in, nose out na dapat. Cause lang din ng traffic yan.
Kasi hindi lahat ng drop off area nila ay nasa magandang lugar or malaki, lalo na kapag heavy load or needs access directly to the back, kaya kung mas malapit ang paatras, mas ok, kung kaya ng paharap, why not, mas preferred nga yun kasi mas madali sa drivers
She had the opportunity to get out of that position but chose to honk her horn instead. Like others said, blind spot ng truck yan. Tinuro yan sa driving school na umiwas at kung saan ang blind spots. Oy oy oy kapa dyan 😂
Never ever come close to a maneuvering truck o kahit anong 4 wheels. Wala tayong panama dyan. Give them ample space to do what they intend to. Patience is the key here. Hindi naman siguro aabot ng ilang minuto yan.
yung truck is hindi nag-ilaw na aatras siya and better sana kung bumaba yugn pahinante para mag-guide sa truck driver.
yung motorsiklo naman, dikit na masyado and di ata nag-maintain ng safe distance since ang daming blind spots ng ganung kalaking vehicle
Wag kasi tlga didikit sa mga Truck, pero Si Truck-kun din atras lng ng atras na walang pahinante, walang reverse lights. Pero kita din naman kasi sa truck sa side mirror ung angle nya (pero baka hindi padin isang POV lang kasi makikita natin). All in all, kasalanan pa din ni Rider bakit sya dumikit at may Kasalanan padin si Truck-kun bakit walang pahinante.
Hindi lang drivers may mali diyan. Siyempre may mali diyan yung may ari nung container yard o paradahan ng mga yan kasi dapat nose in nose out yang mga yan at hindi tumatambay sa daan.
Kasalanan din ng mayor's office kasi pinayagan na maglagay ng container yard diyan.
Rider. I understand na dapat maging high tech na rin yung truck drivers at need na ng cameras on their blind spots, pero karamihan ng trucks ay inaassemble lang yung lalagyanan ng container at yung container mismo (as you can see sa white truck) at kung mapapansin niyo, yung rear plate numbers nila kadalasan, nasa gitna, kasi yun talaga ang rear ng truck. Unless kung marunong silang magkabit at magbaklas ng camera kada load ng container o permanent nang nakalagay yung lalagyanan ng container sa truck, I don't see this happening in the near future.
Rider - IF YOU CANNOT SEE A TRUCK'S SIDE MIRROR, THE TRUCK DRIVER CANNOT SEE YOU.
Basic yan sa rule book. Maski may reverse light pa yung truck, which dapat always meron, I wouldn't put myself behind a large vehicle where I'm not visible for my safety.
Driver - Either you or someone with you go around your large truck before backing up. Basic din to.
I will most likely get downvoted. Pero para sa akin ang mali lang dito ang truck. Walang reverse light which also means na hindi siya road worthy dapat.
If in the first place may reverse light then siguro naman hindi pupwesto ang rider sa likod ng truck kasi malamang paatras na, pero in this case wala namang kahit anong ilaw so iisipin talaga na naka park yung truck.
Kasalanan siguro ng rider para sa akin kung pumwesto siya dun tapos may reverse light. Yun yung kabobohan talaga
Para sakin.
Pansinin mo kapag may spotter yung truck. Kapag wala... siguraduhin mong kita mo yung side mirror ng truck ..
Nag tataka lang din ako . Bakit di nila lagyan nga dashcam yung truck?😅🤣
I can say both. Yung truck din, walang pahenante na nag guguide especially paatras siya (his flow is against the traffic) and take note. Hindi garahe yan. Kalsada yan. Yung rider din, kunglulusot ka lang naman, lusot na. Wag magdalawang isip. Kadalasan dito sa Pinas if you apply too much defensive driving, ikaw pa madisgrasya. Okay maging defensive. But sometimes, you have to be offensive especially if it involves danger. TAKE NOTE - Sa Philippines, India, Thailand, Russia, and Vietnam mo lang iapply yan. In other countries, no need. Especially western and Europe countries.
Motor po yung mali, may pagkukulang lang din yung truck driver walang uma assist
Isa sa mga mortal sin ng pagmomotor bumuntot sa naka Hazzard na truck (waiting)
Malaki Ang posibilidad na baguhan din sa pagmamaneho Yung nagmomotor
Expi din yan
BOTH.
sa truck driver side, dapat may spottrr sa likod eh for this purpose. andaming blind sides ng truck.
sa motor rider, dapat hindi umabante at tumabi sa mga blind spots ng truck.
Walang man lang ilaw sa likod yung truck tapos pumuwesto rin kasi sa blind spot. Defensive driving talaga is the key. You’ll never know what could happen.
Yes, nakakainis minsan ang truck kung nag mamadali ka. But what do you honestly expect if you put yourself in that dangerous position? That truck is huge and probably can’t see you in the side mirrors kasi nga blindspot. Why position yourself there of all places?!?! Do you expect the truck driver to have eyes on the back of their head or a camera behind their truck to see you? Maybe keep your distance. Isa din na nakakainis sa nag motor, ooo traffic nga, pero pag nag lane filter kayo or mag in and out of traffic trying to get through while lahat naka stop, kapag ginawa niyo yan at kasabay mo ay isang truck, Hindi niyo ba na isip na baka Hindi ka makita ng truck dahil mataas ang position Nila at nasa blindspot ka kung naga weave in and out kayo dahil sa traffic. Kung maipit o ma gitgit kayo ng truck, eh baka kasi dapat wala ka soon sa lugar na yun.
Rider on bike: TINY
Truck hauling big container: HUGE
Ikaw nga naka motor would have much more manoeuvrability being able to move quickly rather than a truck, why put yourself in that position? Kung nag hintay ka lang and kept your distance then this would’ve been avoided.
It’s like idiot kamote drivers and riders na Hindi maka pag hintay na mag cross ng railway crossing. Puno na ng traffic sa kabilang side pero a pilitin pa rin mag cross, tapos may pa dating na tren. Anong expectation niyo, yung malaking at mabigat na tren na tumatakbo at speed ay kaya makapreno at mag stop in time para Hindi ma banga ikaw na nasa Mali na position, blocking the railway crossing?
Simple physics and spatial awareness people. Don’t put yourself in a dangerous position
Mali yung truck, walang reverse light, umatras ng walang assistance o hindi nag hintay ng signal.
Pero for safety, sana yung motor hindi dumidikit sa ganyan kalaking sasakyan lalo na blind spot.
Ikaw, nasa blindspot ka ehh.... Ni hindi ka nagbigay ng tamang distance di mo tuloy naiwasan yung pag atras. Tsk tsk kaya talaga wag ugaliin ang pagkuha ng fixer ehh...
Rider, wag ka mag stay sa likod ng mataas na truck, blind spot yan.
Pag ganitong cases mauna na kayo kahit napakalayo ko lalo na napakaliit din ng motor ko (mio gear) lol
just because something is a blindspot doesnt mean its an excuse. you still have to make sure that theres no one there. kaya nga may kasama ung truck driver to make sure na walang tao sa blind spot un. edit: [https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/](https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/) yall can maybe read first because its your vehicle, you should be in control of it all the time. Akala niyo di kayo kamote. LOL.
As much as I want you to be right ba maging responsable rin mga truck drivers, it's not often the case and you're always going to be the biggest loser pag nagulungan ka ng truck na umaatras. Caution is better.
Nothing wrong with your statement, but so is the downvoted comment. Checking thoroughly your blind spots and anticipating yours and others’, it’s just practice of defensive driving. The only question here is who has the last clear chance.
yes, dapat hindi sa likod ng truck at weaving in and out siya, pero the truck should also be responsible. both parties are at fault here.
ang taas ng standard sa motor. "caution" daw. Kung may caution din yung truck driver di rin mangyayari yan. grabe double standard
Buhay pinaguusapan, di gender or sweldo o feelings. Theres a reason na ang LTO, even with all their faults, sinasabihan ang mga drivers na "wag ipilit ang karapatan" kasi ang mga sasakyan ay mga oversized na bala na pwede mong ikamatay. Ikaw mismo iiwas sa mga di makakitang truck, sa mga mayayabang na kotse, sa mga balasubas na jeepney driver, sa mga tarantadong EV drivers, at sa kapwa mo nagmomotor. Drive defensively and live to see another day.
oo per katulad nung dowvoted comment ni oop di naman nya sinabi na hindi mag ingat ang sinabi lang nya liable pa rin ang truck dito kasi responsibility nya rin to be safe sa ibang drivers sinasabi ko lang bakit parang walang kasalanan yung truck eh alam nya na di nya kita yung likod nya tapos aatras sya ng walang tumtulong sa kanya, paano kung naglalakad na tao yun? di rin naman nila malalaman na naataras kasi walang sign na aatras.
Eto nga ang rason na kung bakit di mo dapat palitan ang nga truck na umaandar, kasalanan man niya o hindi, ikaw ang pinaka lugi, di ko lang alam sa iba pero yan talaga tinuro sakin ng tatay ko nung nagsisimula pa lang ako nag drive.
Bro, ang unang tanong kung sino mali, di yung sino lugi sa aksidente. So pag mas malaki lugi yun yung basehan kung sino ang mali sa aksidente? Gets ko yung point mo pero wag mo gamitin yan para i twist king sino ang mali sa dalawa. Parehas sila may pagkukulang, walang umaalalay sa truck habang umaatras, motor tumambay sa alanganin. Pero at the end of the day pareho silang nasa public road at ang truck ang kontra sa flow ng traffic kaya nagulungan ang motor. So ang mali at ang may liability parin jan is yung truck.
Now I may have been a bit harsh putting all the blame sa motor pero it bears repeating that you shouldn't put yourself in that situation as a rider. So yes, both are to blame pero the bigger fault is at the rider for putting himself there.
No, di mo lang din talaga ma gets. Pinag sasama mo kasi yung magka ibang subject. Pagiging kamote ng naka motor at sino yung sino may kasalanan at liable sa aksidente. Nandon na tayo, yung motor yung naglagay sa sarili niya sa alanganing pwesto pero again public road yan at ang truck ang kontra sa flow ng traffic kahit pa na nasa blindspot pwesto ng motor. Pwede mo sabihin yan sa huli as a moral of the story na wag mangamote para maka iwas sa aksidente. Pero di mo pwede gamitin yan para sabihin na motor ang nag cause ng aksidente. Gets na ng majority yan, kahit pag bali baliktarin mo ang mundo, di mo na maibabalik ang buhay na nawala or nasirang property sa accident pero kahit pag bali baliktarin mo rin ang mundo di mo pwede ibaling ang sisi sa kakulangan ng isa sa talagang gumawa ng accident. Mag ka iba yun. Kaya nga nila laging tinuturo ang defensive driving para ikaw na mismo ang maka iwas sa maaring mag cause sayo ng accident. Kahit kelan di mo pwedeng gamitin or ilaban ang pag pasok sa blindspot as cause of accident. Pero ang pag atras oh pag andar kontra sa flow ng traffic sa public road ay oo. Magkaiba ang pag iwas sa aksidente at ang pagiging sanhi ng aksidente. Sana maintindihan mo.
kung sino nakakaintindi sya dapat umintindi. in this case nkkta na ng motorcycle driver yun whole situation nagtangatangahan pa din sya. alam nya ng walang signal lights yun truck etc.
yeah wala ngang signal lights, which is in violation of the law, ibig sabihin may kamalian din ung truck. Technically speaking ung truck ung nagbanga siya ung mali. Just because you fail to drive defensively, doesnt mean its his fault na nasira ung motor niya. The truck was still backing up without looking.
The truck is still backing up without looking? Tell me exactly how a driver can look directly at his rear a few feet away from the doors of the container cargo?? Sa mga pinagsasabi mo mukhang di kapa nakakapag drive ng truck, much more big elongated loads like full size containers.
uh wait for his spotter to look for him. Di mo ba napapansin laging may kasama ung mga truck drivers sa cabin? its not rocket science.
Think about this, what IF, instead na pumunta yung rider dun, he STAYED BACK and maintained distance?? Naka abot siguro yung spotter sa likod no? And hindi perpekto tong mga to, lalo na kung papasok yan at galing sa matagalang byahe, mas gugustuhin matapos na agad kesa matagalan, I fail to see why you consider the truck driver to be the problem here even if they did a few things wrong and had some flaws, biggest fault that was done is yung rider na PUMUNTA deliberately sa likod ng truck, and stayed there looking at the backing up truck hindi gumagalaw.
because he was last to move. Based on the law, he was the one who hit the motorcycle. the motorcycle didnt hit him. Thats how it works. so i park a car behind you and last you looked, i wasnt there, then continued to back up, you still hit me. Why would i be liable? you were the one that moved into my car. there are a bunch of other variables that could have prevented this. i can point to alot of other arbitrary things that dont really mean much. like based on the law, vehicles that are not road worthy are not supposed to be on the road. why is a truck with no hazard lights on the road?The accident would have never happened if the truck wasnt there in the first place. but that doesnt matter.
Last to move cannot apply here as the rider himself put him in a bad position. He can technically still move and is able to, pbut he put himself there and decided to stand his ground sa truck. Napaka simple ng situation, nagka ubo utak niya tapos nagka problema kasi nangyari yung nangyari, yes theres problems with the truck, yea, no spotter, but who tf in their right mind parks directly behind a truck?? Who STAYS directly behind a truck? In a case in which both parties had flaws and is at fault, mas malaki ang fault ng rider simply because it is a choice he made that lead to such a situation, a vastly different outcome would have happened had he not went and stayed there
He lights may be busted but he still has his auditory cues on. Do not force your rights on the road and protest, especially not to a big vehicle, you'll lose big time.
Ang tanga ng comment mo. Literal. Defensive driving palagi hindi ung pag lalaban mo na tama ka at mali ung isa. Sabagay kung patay ka na naman ikaw babayaran.
Exactly. Defensive driving IS a must **AT ALL TIMES**. Sabi nga, aanhin mo ang right of way kung baldado o patay ka na? Tama ka nga sa mata ng batas, pero hanggang dun na lang yun. Di bale nang walang compensation, basta safe lagi.
Ewan ko jan sa makapag comment nalang.. Hahahaha mukang walang sentido common.
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just because you failed to do a best practice, doesnt mean its not the trucks fault for backing up and not looking. Sino nga ung may mali, which is both.
Ang tanga mo naman
[https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/](https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/) you people claim to actually know how to drive, but thats not the case. You dont even know your own responsibilities. "Now, while everyone around you should be aware of your vehicle’s blind spots, ultimately your own blind spots are your own problem to bear. It’s you and you alone who are in charge—and should be in control—of your own vehicle at all times. Blind spots are no excuse; part of the privilege of being able to drive is the responsibility to absolutely make sure that you do not hurt or kill another person while in command of your vehicle." ang dami talagang mangmang dito sa pinas.
"Give yourself some distance and berth from passing around a vehicle, especially a large one. Even if you may still be in view of a mirror, be aware that a driver may not be conscious of your presence if he or she doesn’t look at the mirror." Kung sino ang aware, siya ang mayroong mas mataas na responsibilidad na umiwas pagkat kita naman sa video na siya ang pumunta duon sa blind spot ng truck CONSCIOUSLY and DELIBERATELY, the truck driver did not want him to be there nor told him to go there, along with not being FORCED to go there. He himself made it so he is in a precarious position since wala ngang signal yung truck. But at the same time, why risk it when hindi pa nga nakaka lampas yung isang nag maneobra na truck? Seems like common sense naman na wag pepwesto sa likod ng trucks and naka lagay pa nga maintain distance. Tapos truck driver may kasalanan? Should the driver get out of his truck every few seconds kapag aatras to make sure no dumbass ay nakapila sa likod nya?? Because there is absolutely no other way to check the exact rear of a truck especially a big container load Oh and another one, the Visor article talks about and shows diagrams for a CAR, which you can look behind at, not a big TRUCK with a load. So is this article still viable to be quoted upon for this accident? Madami nga talagang mangmang
If I'm not mistaken, the doctrine of last clear chance appiles here. See here: https://elibrary.judiciary.gov.ph/thebookshelf/showdocs/23/67129#:~:text=The%20doctrine%20of%20last%20clear%20chance%20states%20that%20where%20both,failed%20to%20do%20so%20is
thats why they have spotters that help them maneuver and back up. the same still applies for trucks. I copy pasted the bottom line. yes you should be aware of other peoples blindspots, but ULTIMATELY " your own blind spots are your own problem to bear." you can try reading the whole thing again, till the end, if you would like. It doesnt change that the trucks blindspots are his responsibility.
If you look at the video again, it seems as if the supposed spotter ay wala pa sa posisyon, and obviously ganun nga kasi walang tao sa likod. And the truck was parked. Common sense naman. Bakit pupunta sa likod ng truck lalo na nag mamaneobra pa yung nasa kaliwa?? Tapos umaatras na naka tayo lang sya sa likod mismo??
huh. so why bring the spotter then if youre not going to wait for him to get into position before backing up? Isnt that common sense as well? The motorist could have missed he was going to back up because the hazard lights of the truck are broken. also idk why you would do that, i barely want to drive past trucks when im in a car but thats not relevant. Collective katangahan ng dalawang nagmamaneho. anyway you can believe the article or insist your point. whatever. basa basa din kayo,
I dont fully believe in an article simply because we are all humans and therefore can have flaws, the article's main audience are car drivers that most likely do NOT drive trailer trucks, so their subjects and topics applies best to them, it starts to not be applicable in situations like these, show me an article that has a topic about big trailer trucks specifically from Visor? Syempre wala, kasi hindi naman yun audience nila. Btw, na miss nya na umaatras yung truck? Need paba ng lights para mapansin yung malaking container papalapit ng papalapit sayo? Yea, seems like kinukulang talaga sa common sense yung rider kung nasabi mong ganyan
Yan ang gusto ko, nag aaral ka.
sana ikaw din magbasa basa
Lol, dapat talaga di magaabsent sa seminar ng LTO.
Put yourself in the truck driver's seat. That's why it's called a blind spot for a reason. You can't have eyes everywhere. Even a spotter has blind spots. Now, the rider on the other hand has had ample space and ample time to keep a safe distance from the truck. Still he managed to get himself in a dangerous situation. Conclusion: DON'T BE A KAMOTE, MAN.
ok, so why isnt the spotter looking in the direction where the truck is going? So if theres a kid there that gets run over, its ok cause its a blindspot? im saying theyre both in the wrong. A blind spot is not an excuse.Kaya nga may spotter di ba? the truck should not be going if the space isnt cleared. How hard is that to understand.
I would say that the driver, if he should be at fault here, did not intentionally cause the rider's endangerment. Even if there was a spotter in this case and was able to warn the truck driver in time, try stopping a 20 ton truck in an instant. The rider on the other hand, deliberately and wilfully endangered herself. Nobody said that a blind spot is a blanket excuse to whatever. It's basically Darwin Awards at this point. And the rider would have been an awardee if not for sheer luck. Edit: changed the rider's gender.
Kamote comment. Sinisi pa ung truck driver
[https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/](https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/) you people claim to actually know how to drive, but thats not the case. You dont even know your own responsibilities. "Now, while everyone around you should be aware of your vehicle’s blind spots, ultimately your own blind spots are your own problem to bear. It’s you and you alone who are in charge—and should be in control—of your own vehicle at all times. Blind spots are no excuse; part of the privilege of being able to drive is the responsibility to absolutely make sure that you do not hurt or kill another person while in command of your vehicle." ang dami talagang mangmang dito sa pinas.
>ang dami talagang mangmang dito sa pinas. Isa ka na dun hahaha
BLIND SPOT NGA BAI IH
[https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/](https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/) you people claim to actually know how to drive, but thats not the case. You dont even know your own responsibilities. "Now, while everyone around you should be aware of your vehicle’s blind spots, ultimately your own blind spots are your own problem to bear. It’s you and you alone who are in charge—and should be in control—of your own vehicle at all times. Blind spots are no excuse; part of the privilege of being able to drive is the responsibility to absolutely make sure that you do not hurt or kill another person while in command of your vehicle." ang dami talagang mangmang dito sa pinas.
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sinabi ko ba na ikaw ung nagmamaneho? The truck driver nga should be responsible for his vehicle. Mahirap bang intindihin un? So bakit dinedefend mo naman ung truck driver, wala ka namang kinalaman dyan.
Nah, you don’t understand how it works. Kasi ipagpipilitan mo pa din yung dahil walang reverse light yung truck kaya andun yung kamote na motorista 🤪. Sigurado hindi mo din mag gets na small portion lang ng problema yan sa kalye. 😂
I pity you. Anyway. Have a good day.
OPs not saying tama yung truck tho.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Na echo chamber ka boss. Dito mo makikita na ayaw talaga ng pinoy sa tama.
Exactly, kaso you live in the Philippines and kahit ipagpilitan mo yan kakainin ka lang ng truck as a rider. Mas mabuti nang ikaw ang umiwas atleast safe ka.
yeah, best practice yun. Pero di naman ibig sabihin walang kasalanan ung truck kasi nga, siya ung nagrereverse, dapat siya ung tumitingin kung may tao o hindi. Nakikita ko kasi sinasabi ung motor lang ung may kamalian, which is wrong.
>edit: https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/ > >yall can maybe read first because its your vehicle, you should be in control of it all the time. Akala niyo di kayo kamote. LOL. Look man, I know you're getting down voted to all hell BUT YES, BLINDSPOTS ARE THE TRUCKERS FAULT, PERO di mo to maiiwasan pag nasa likuran ka na ng umaatras na truck-- driving defensively means you cannot rely on others to correct their actions so YOU WOULD BE SAFE. Maybe I was a little harsh for putting all the blame on the rider BUT HE STILL SHOULD RIDE DEFENSIVELY. Excuse or not, pag magulungan ka ng truck, your family gets 100k, theres a chance that the truck driver will face less jail time and YOU'LL BE DEAD-- sounds like a shit deal, I'd rather be alive and not go directly into a truck's blind spot.
Bobo mo
[https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/](https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/) you people claim to actually know how to drive, but thats not the case. You dont even know your own responsibilities. "Now, while everyone around you should be aware of your vehicle’s blind spots, ultimately your own blind spots are your own problem to bear. It’s you and you alone who are in charge—and should be in control—of your own vehicle at all times. Blind spots are no excuse; part of the privilege of being able to drive is the responsibility to absolutely make sure that you do not hurt or kill another person while in command of your vehicle." ang dami talagang mangmang dito sa pinas.
You need to apply common sense as well. If you see a truck, you keep a safe distance away at all times.
so did i say it was soley on the truck? a motorcycle weaving in and out of traffic is wrong too. BUT ultimately to answer whos at fault, its the truck. Not bothering to check before backing up is a huge no no for all drivers, no matter what youre driving. Kaya nga kung napapansin mo, laging may kasama ung truck drivers dito, minsan dalawa nga eh.
The law will punish the truck driver alone. But the motorcycle driver is the real reason there's an accident here. Pinoy diskarte kasi kapag may space, doon din sila mag singit. Mahirap ba talag na mag hintay Ng turn mo?
NGL there area lot of accidents that happen because motorcycles just cant wait. Totoo un na pasingit singit sila. But is it so hard for filipinos to understand na may kasalanan din ung truck driver? Nope, the real reason why theres an accident here is nagcompound ung katangahan nilang dalawa. Dapat di nagback up ung truck na wala ung spotter. Inassume lang niya na walang tao or vehicle dun. Assuming makes an ass out of u and me. Wala ding hazaard lights ung truck. Di dapat nasa daan yan kung wala un. Kaya may motor inspection requirements tayo bago marehistro. Sa katangahan ng motor, naiintindi mo na un kaya di ko na iuulit.
Kasi if may nabanggaan yung Truck na stationary, buong fault niya sana. Pero hindi yun ang nangyari. Eto ang kamote nag singit talaga at nag 😮 pa. The truck has a blind spot but the truck is a truck and therefore huge. How would anyone not see a truck in front of them? So tell me, who's at fault? The truck driver who can't totally see what's behind him? Or the motorcycle driver who deadass can see what's in front of him but still risks his life to save a few minutes in their commute? Btw, trucks don't need 2 people. Other countries only have 1 person handling the truck. A spotter isn't necessary. It's only made necessary cuz of how our roads are built and because of suicidal motorists.
Basahin mo nga sinabi mo. Malakas ha.
[https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/](https://visor.ph/traffic/blind-spots-are-in-fact-your-problem/) you people claim to actually know how to drive, but thats not the case. You dont even know your own responsibilities. "Now, while everyone around you should be aware of your vehicle’s blind spots, ultimately your own blind spots are your own problem to bear. It’s you and you alone who are in charge—and should be in control—of your own vehicle at all times. Blind spots are no excuse; part of the privilege of being able to drive is the responsibility to absolutely make sure that you do not hurt or kill another person while in command of your vehicle." ang dami talagang mangmang dito sa pinas.
Like the truck driver. Again, you cannot expect others to be responsible for your own safety-- this is why you drive defensively.
Actually sa technology ngayon dapat nirerequire nang lagyan ng rear camera yang mga truck and armored car. Merong solution so solve that blind spot hindi lang inaasikaso
Magandang suggestion to. Isama sa road worthiness ang cameras esp for vehicles na may malaking blind spot.
This. nakakapagtaka, we're in a digital age and advance na ung technology, bakit wala paring reverse cam ung mga truck? Like wtf? kumportable na sila sa "Ay blindspot ko yang likod, malaking truck ako! kayo mag adjust", tangena
3rd world country tayo if i may remind you. Maraming "dapat" pero di nangyyari. Camera sa truck is one of the less important ordinance na kailangan ng bansa natin. Jeep nga na kakaragkarag at maitim ang usok di natin maphase out phase out what more an additional regulations with these trucks.
Mayayaman din naman yung mga mayari ng logistics companies, di naman barya barya kinikita ng mga yan. Siguro if may bagong regulation requiring them to have a rear camera, madali na sa mga kumpanya
If it isn't broken, don't fix it, kumbaga. Tingin siguro nila, unecessary yang rear cam. Gastos pa, e di naman required. Bear in mind, minimum capital, maximum profit ang galawan. Kaya I agree, need ng regulation talaga.
Ganto mag isip mga chinese. Which is the owners of these kind of businesses. Punta ka binondo. Pangit CR, pangit ng building, mukang luma at palugi na pero milyon milyon pera hahaha.
Cut corners 3conomy.
Dude, kadalasan nilalagay lang yung mga lalagyanan ng container at yung container mismo (as you can see in the white truck). Yung mga trucks, maiikli lang talaga yan. So paano mo lalagyan ng camera yun? Kaya kung mapapansin mo, yung rear plate numbers nila, nasa gitna. Unless kung ang build niya is ganon na talaga, pero karamihan hindi.
"ang magaling na truck driver di umaasa sa camera" di na ako magtataka kung ganyan magiging komento ng mga truck driver dyan. Heck even on newer cars with complete 360 camera + sensor ganyan pa din sentiment ng iba eh. Parang mga tanga
Cost vs benefit. Yung mismong truck nga di man lang maayos paano pa gagastusan ang accessories? Not to mention na di naman uso kabitan ng rear view cam sa cargo bed kasi ikakabit mo pa ang electronics from the truck papunta sa likod.
don’t underestimate the cheapness of some businessman. They are willing to cut cost even to the tiniest of expenses for a bigger profit. It’s evident to the fact that most of the trucks in our country are so old that it would even be illegal to operate in some countries.
detachable yung trailer at yung containers di pwede malagyan ng camera yan
Budget lng kulang 😅😅😅 With how businessmen work, isasawalang bahala nila ito unless punishable or have penalties included pag nilabag/di sinunod. Ang dami mga luma at dapat na tlga palitan na vehicle pero patuloy pa din ginagamit for whatever way just to cut expenses
Both. Truck doesn’t have reverse lights. (Although really, the main problem is the rider for being stupid) Rider is an idiot with no common sense.
Dapat me spotter si truck habang umaatras, baka yung tumakbo yung spotter nya talaga. All clear dapat bago umatras yung truck. Sa state nya nung dumaan ang motor parked pa sya. So in the strictest sense kasalanan ni truck. Pero dapat tayong naka MC ay mag effort sa safety natin at mag duda sa lahat ng situation na dadatnan naten.
The moment na yung motor hindi nagbigay ng tamang space nor put his place in a visible spot mali na yung motor dun. Ang hihilig kase sumingit ni walang busina.
singit and tutok geng geng. 🤣🤣
Yes. Dapat always act as in invisible ka at may danger palagi sa buhay mo.
Absolutely this, dont expect others to be responsible enough to know their blindspots.
I disagree. Kakaalis pa lang nung isang truck, atras na agad yung isa. Di man lang hinintay yung spotter na bigyan sya ng go ahead. At hindi nga nagmamadali yung motor e, hinintay nyang makalarga yung truck bago sya pumasok. Hindi naman sya sumingit habang umaandar na yung truck. I agree maraming kamoteng 2 wheels pero this is not one of them.
Ang mali jan wag mo nang hintayin yung spotter. Ehh kung walang spotter? Like I said sarili nya nag dala jan so don't blame it to others. Sya yung nakakakita hindi yung truck driver. Ano ka VIP? Gusto mo pa lapitan ka ng pahinante "boss amo aatras po" ganun? just give a proper distance wag kaseng tutok ng tutok sinasabi naman sa LTO yan, or baka fixer kase kaya di na inform.
Again, I disagree. Kung may kamote man, yun ay yung unang motor na sumingit agad at yung truck driver na nagmamadaling umalis. Kita sa video na hindi nagmadali yung 2nd MC, kung sa proper distance man lang, hinintay nya munang makaalis yung unang truck bago sya pumasok. Unfortunately, nagmadali yung pangalawang truck na sumunod kaya naatrasan nya yung MC. Nasa likod na nya yung 2nd MC bago sya magsimulang umatras. Kung hindi nagfixer yung truck driver, alam nya dapat na triple ingat sya dahil napalaki ng dala nya. Meron naman silang spotter, bat hindi pa nya hinintay. Again, nasa likod na nya yung motor bago sya maghazard at magsimulang umatras.
Walang reverse light pero may warning beeps sya.
Kung nag hintay lang ng 5-10 seconds si kamote para maka maneuver yung trailer d sana nag ka ganyan. Atat na atat palagi ambagal naman ng motor.
taeng tae? hahaha
Nasa blindspots ka dre, kaso ung truck parang wala din reverse lights
Biker's fault.
Pwde naman umabante un rider nun nakita nyang umaatras un truck.. inantay pa maatrasan sya..🤦♂️
Pwede naman umiwas noh?
oo nga.. ewan ko ba sa rider..
Hindi dapat pumunta or tumutok sa likod ng truck yung rider, at yung driver naman ng truck ay hindi dapat umatras nang wala yung pahinante niya.
Biker ang may mali hindi nagiisip na malaking truck ang nasahunaan nya
mostly the rider, paulit ulit na lang, dapat automatic na sa atin na lumayo sa mga truck kahit naka hinto pa yan (anonas incident). wag magpakasiguro
both. Stop weaving in and out of traffic and look before you decide to go into someone whos actively backing up already. and jesus fix your truck and make sure its all working wtf.
may pagkukulang sa truck walang indicator na mag reverse pero ang bobo din kasi ng rider nakaugalian nan sumiksik kaya lagi nakadikit sa ibang sasakyan edit: wala rin pala awareness si tanga kitang umaatras yung truck pero siya tuloy pa rin sa pag abante. hindi naman pala biglaang umatras
Parehas silang may mali. 1. Ang rider ay masyadong nakadikit sa likod ng truck. Always keep distance at all times. 2. Walang reverse lights ang truck 3. Walang pahinante para mag guide sa driver ng truck para safe ang pag maneuver
Yung rider. Kapag articulated ang vehicles mas madalas malaki ang kanilang blind spot. Kapag may na-encounter kayo na ganitong scenario. Make sure na may ample space si trailer. Ang ample space ay proportional sa kanyang size. I always distance myself from a trailer na moving or nagre-ready na for parking. This is to give them ample space to move and adjust.
Pareho mali. Walang signal or reverse lights yung truck tapos si ateng na rider dapat hindi siya nagstay sa likod ng truck.. shoots!!! Kahit ako iwas na iwas ako sa mga truck lalo sa ganyan kalaki.. either paunahin ko sila or nagsstop ako sa gilid ng kalsada then kpg malayo na saka ako mag go ulit haha sorry takot kc ako sa truck tlga may trauma ako
Mostly fault ng rider for not being attentive and pinilit pang dumikit sa truck, eh dinig naman niya (hopefully) na may beeping yung truck means umaatras. Binusinahan pa nga niya parang nagmatigas pa. Though may fault din yung truck siyempre pero could've avoided kung umiwas nalang si rider
We should all be aware that not all incidents are the result of the fault of a single side. on this case, both are actually at fault.
Kaya may pahinante ang mga driver, kasi may blind spot sila. So anong ginawa nung pahinante? At bakit umatras si driver nang wala ang pahinante.
ikaw. tnga ka e. bat ka nasa likod ng truck alam mo naman na di ka kita nan?
Pasabi sa friend mo sa susunod be alert sa mga trucks lalo na sa likod, kahit no tail lights. Dapat sense nya na moving yung truck. Tho may mali din yung truck, no tail light at hindi alerto ang spotter nya or hindi nakikinig/tinitignan yung sign ng spotter nya.
Bakit ba ang daming bobong naka motor? Sila pinaka vulnerable, diba dapat sila pa mag ingat sa kalsada? Pero sila pa pinaka reckless.
couldn't agree more! like, I drive every day, na bangga na ako ng motor na kasalanan nila 4x already. Now, I'm so frustrated and traumatized gusto ko na mag lagay ng bullbar sa front and rear metal bar sa likod ng pickup ko. tang.ina talaga mga kamote. hahaha isa talaga sa mga pet peeves ko is yung naka signal na ako na mag right turn, then suddenly, may naka motor na bigla nalang susulpot and right turn din, wtf talaga.
Technically, may mali ang truck. No reverse lights. Naka park na din ang motor. Pero common sense na lang sana ng MC na may nag maneuver na truck. What is 3-4 seconds na Pag antay. Also, blind spot ng truck at di dapat saya dumikit sa truck. Nasa driver's manual nman yan
Lesson learned. Wag na wag kang pwepwesto sa kahit anong blind spot ng truck na hindi ka nag paparamdam. (Busina/Flash light). Ung mga sanay makasalamuha ang mga truck, alam na alam yan. Nagmaniobra kasi ung isang truck, expected ng umatras na truck n walang vehicle sa likod kasi kaka maniobra lng eh. Kaso aun nga, nagmadali pumasok. Buti di ka natuluyan atrasan. Yan pa naman SOP ng mga truck drivers
"bulag na pwesto/lugar" "hindi nakikita na pwesto/lugar"(Blind spot) "Panatiliin ang distansya"(keep distance) Ayan, tinagalog kona para maintindihan!
Medyo di related pero... Sana ipagbawal na talaga yung pag mamaniobra sa kalsada para makapasok sa parking. Nose in, nose out na dapat. Cause lang din ng traffic yan.
Kasi hindi lahat ng drop off area nila ay nasa magandang lugar or malaki, lalo na kapag heavy load or needs access directly to the back, kaya kung mas malapit ang paatras, mas ok, kung kaya ng paharap, why not, mas preferred nga yun kasi mas madali sa drivers
legit etomak
Although I agree na kailang may ilaw yung truck, at fault din yung si naka motor. Mejo kulang sa situational awareness si rider.
Ung pahinante
Yung truck. Bakit ka magre-reverse kung di mo nakikita likod mo?
Darwin awardee
She had the opportunity to get out of that position but chose to honk her horn instead. Like others said, blind spot ng truck yan. Tinuro yan sa driving school na umiwas at kung saan ang blind spots. Oy oy oy kapa dyan 😂
Never ever come close to a maneuvering truck o kahit anong 4 wheels. Wala tayong panama dyan. Give them ample space to do what they intend to. Patience is the key here. Hindi naman siguro aabot ng ilang minuto yan.
Pareho. Pero may chance umiwas ang motor. Di nya napansin na umaatras kahit may reverse sound yung truck.
yung truck is hindi nag-ilaw na aatras siya and better sana kung bumaba yugn pahinante para mag-guide sa truck driver. yung motorsiklo naman, dikit na masyado and di ata nag-maintain ng safe distance since ang daming blind spots ng ganung kalaking vehicle
Wag kasi tlga didikit sa mga Truck, pero Si Truck-kun din atras lng ng atras na walang pahinante, walang reverse lights. Pero kita din naman kasi sa truck sa side mirror ung angle nya (pero baka hindi padin isang POV lang kasi makikita natin). All in all, kasalanan pa din ni Rider bakit sya dumikit at may Kasalanan padin si Truck-kun bakit walang pahinante.
La kasi defensive driving e. Singit lang ng singit haha
Truck driver. Wala ka spotter, aatras ka. Paano kung may bata jan.
rider, pero may mali din ung trailer truck wlang white singal light sa likod
dikit pa more
Busted tail lights walang warning na umaatras
Bat parang walang pahinante? yan yung mga truck na kakaiba ung oras ng biyahe e kaya nakakalusot sa mga ganyan. Anyway, ambaba ng awareness ni ate.
Basically Hindi ka kita Basta kasi may heavy equipment na present wag laging tumutok ng tumutok tigas ng mga ulo pa ulit ulit nalang
Another one na nadikot sa truck. How stupid are these riders. Muka bang kita ka ng driver ng higanteng sasakyan nayan.
Kaya may nkalagay sa likod .. Na keep distance
Taeng tae, una sigaw bago galaw e hahaha
Rider po :)
Rider na defensive lang kapag tinanong kung Anong nangyari. Di defensive driver. Hahaha.
Uhmm bakit mag tatanong sino mali wala bang common sense?
Walang hazard at rear light yung truck?
Mali yung truck. Mamamatay kasi yung mga naka-motor pag hindi sumisingit.
Biker's fault. Kitang-kita na niya na nag reverse ang trailer eh, hindi pa umiwas.
Motor. As usual hahah
Hindi lang drivers may mali diyan. Siyempre may mali diyan yung may ari nung container yard o paradahan ng mga yan kasi dapat nose in nose out yang mga yan at hindi tumatambay sa daan. Kasalanan din ng mayor's office kasi pinayagan na maglagay ng container yard diyan.
This is why taillights are important. Dapat mapenalty mga business owners na yan na di minamaintain yung mga truck nila.
Truck. Walang reverse light kahit sino madadali niyan parang nakapark lang eh
Rider. I understand na dapat maging high tech na rin yung truck drivers at need na ng cameras on their blind spots, pero karamihan ng trucks ay inaassemble lang yung lalagyanan ng container at yung container mismo (as you can see sa white truck) at kung mapapansin niyo, yung rear plate numbers nila kadalasan, nasa gitna, kasi yun talaga ang rear ng truck. Unless kung marunong silang magkabit at magbaklas ng camera kada load ng container o permanent nang nakalagay yung lalagyanan ng container sa truck, I don't see this happening in the near future.
Rider - IF YOU CANNOT SEE A TRUCK'S SIDE MIRROR, THE TRUCK DRIVER CANNOT SEE YOU. Basic yan sa rule book. Maski may reverse light pa yung truck, which dapat always meron, I wouldn't put myself behind a large vehicle where I'm not visible for my safety. Driver - Either you or someone with you go around your large truck before backing up. Basic din to.
Biker yan. Blind spot yan e dapat hindi talaga siya pumuwesto jan.
Rider, nasa blindspot siya nung truck
I will most likely get downvoted. Pero para sa akin ang mali lang dito ang truck. Walang reverse light which also means na hindi siya road worthy dapat. If in the first place may reverse light then siguro naman hindi pupwesto ang rider sa likod ng truck kasi malamang paatras na, pero in this case wala namang kahit anong ilaw so iisipin talaga na naka park yung truck. Kasalanan siguro ng rider para sa akin kung pumwesto siya dun tapos may reverse light. Yun yung kabobohan talaga
rider obviously 🙄 trucks and blindspots. Just because nakaya nung na una sayo, hindi ibig sabihin pwede sayo. Bagal mo din sumunod
Nakatatak nansa isip ko, basta truck: "Distancia Amigo"
Malaking KEEP DISTANCE. FAFO.
Curious, hindi ba enough warning yung *tut tut tut* na meaning mag-rereverse yung truck, kaso lumapit pa rin yung motor?
Para sakin. Pansinin mo kapag may spotter yung truck. Kapag wala... siguraduhin mong kita mo yung side mirror ng truck .. Nag tataka lang din ako . Bakit di nila lagyan nga dashcam yung truck?😅🤣
Fight flight or freeze lol play dead si kuya
I can say both. Yung truck din, walang pahenante na nag guguide especially paatras siya (his flow is against the traffic) and take note. Hindi garahe yan. Kalsada yan. Yung rider din, kunglulusot ka lang naman, lusot na. Wag magdalawang isip. Kadalasan dito sa Pinas if you apply too much defensive driving, ikaw pa madisgrasya. Okay maging defensive. But sometimes, you have to be offensive especially if it involves danger. TAKE NOTE - Sa Philippines, India, Thailand, Russia, and Vietnam mo lang iapply yan. In other countries, no need. Especially western and Europe countries.
You bike riders are very disrespectful of blind spots!!
Truck. Kaya nga may pahinante ang mga truck.
Motor po yung mali, may pagkukulang lang din yung truck driver walang uma assist Isa sa mga mortal sin ng pagmomotor bumuntot sa naka Hazzard na truck (waiting) Malaki Ang posibilidad na baguhan din sa pagmamaneho Yung nagmomotor Expi din yan
BOTH. sa truck driver side, dapat may spottrr sa likod eh for this purpose. andaming blind sides ng truck. sa motor rider, dapat hindi umabante at tumabi sa mga blind spots ng truck.
Hindi ba obvious?
Rider ang mali
Walang man lang ilaw sa likod yung truck tapos pumuwesto rin kasi sa blind spot. Defensive driving talaga is the key. You’ll never know what could happen.
Yung truck. Never nagkakamali mga naka motor 😆
Yes, nakakainis minsan ang truck kung nag mamadali ka. But what do you honestly expect if you put yourself in that dangerous position? That truck is huge and probably can’t see you in the side mirrors kasi nga blindspot. Why position yourself there of all places?!?! Do you expect the truck driver to have eyes on the back of their head or a camera behind their truck to see you? Maybe keep your distance. Isa din na nakakainis sa nag motor, ooo traffic nga, pero pag nag lane filter kayo or mag in and out of traffic trying to get through while lahat naka stop, kapag ginawa niyo yan at kasabay mo ay isang truck, Hindi niyo ba na isip na baka Hindi ka makita ng truck dahil mataas ang position Nila at nasa blindspot ka kung naga weave in and out kayo dahil sa traffic. Kung maipit o ma gitgit kayo ng truck, eh baka kasi dapat wala ka soon sa lugar na yun.
Rider on bike: TINY Truck hauling big container: HUGE Ikaw nga naka motor would have much more manoeuvrability being able to move quickly rather than a truck, why put yourself in that position? Kung nag hintay ka lang and kept your distance then this would’ve been avoided. It’s like idiot kamote drivers and riders na Hindi maka pag hintay na mag cross ng railway crossing. Puno na ng traffic sa kabilang side pero a pilitin pa rin mag cross, tapos may pa dating na tren. Anong expectation niyo, yung malaking at mabigat na tren na tumatakbo at speed ay kaya makapreno at mag stop in time para Hindi ma banga ikaw na nasa Mali na position, blocking the railway crossing? Simple physics and spatial awareness people. Don’t put yourself in a dangerous position
Busina muna bago umiwas, may oras ka para umiwas eh Parang yung ibang kasabayan ko sa kalsada busina kesa preno
tutok pa
parehas hahsashahsha, okay lang yan, atleast alam na blindspot ng truck 😅😅😅
bobo ampota
Mali yung truck, walang reverse light, umatras ng walang assistance o hindi nag hintay ng signal. Pero for safety, sana yung motor hindi dumidikit sa ganyan kalaking sasakyan lalo na blind spot.
WHY ARE YOU SITTTING BEHIND A TRUCK
Ang rider na rinig na nya ang backing beep Ng truck
Basta bobo talaga!
rider po
Bingi hnd nya ba alam yung ganyang tunog ibigsah n aatras.
Oi ka rin..
Pareho sila mali.....thats you need to KEEP YOUR DISTANCE when it comes to vehicles that can't see you behind them...specifically big trucks.
Ikaw, nasa blindspot ka ehh.... Ni hindi ka nagbigay ng tamang distance di mo tuloy naiwasan yung pag atras. Tsk tsk kaya talaga wag ugaliin ang pagkuha ng fixer ehh...
may reverse light man ung truck o wala 60-40 rider's fault p din, dpat alerto ka lalo na't truck yan. common sense ba db?
Rider. Nasa tamang pag iisip yan, huminto sa likod ng malaking truck at sa blindspot pa. Tapos ipopost pa nung rider. Pasabi sa kanya bobo siya.
si u/ExpertPaint430 yun driver ng motor dito walang common sense 😀😀😀
Motor syempre. Mababa IQ nila eh
Parehas may mali, as a rider di ko iririsk yung sarili ko na pumwesto sa likod ng truck kasi di ako kita. Sa truck naman walang ilaw
why is this getting downvoted? hahaha clearly bobo yung rider