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RepresentativeTalk16

Since it’s been 16+ years Please replace the thermal paste. I promise it’s not even there anymore. Also, I would order an internal battery from Amazon so you don’t have to open it up again to replace it when it finally decides to die. Do it all at once. It’s a cr2032 but it’s got wires connected to it. So make sure it’s the right one. If you want to feel cool. You can order new factory warranty seals from Ali express to replace the one you’ll be ripping off. Lastly. Enjoy your new BC PS3. Play to your hearts content.


Nofatchickzzzz

Basically change thermal paste and install cfw to control fan speeds and delid the cell and rsx if confident ( this is very hard to do ) . That said , it will die because it has a design flaw in the rsx so the only way to get it to be extremely reliable is to install an rsx from the slim models.


Nascar1243

You mean a 65nm or 40nm RSX? The 65nm is also fine from phat models


Nofatchickzzzz

yeah your right, however i think early 65 nms may have also had the flaw


Nascar1243

They don’t, that was debunked and rip-felix came out and even said they don’t have it, he found 2 K01s with over 1000 days of use on them and the only thing that went wrong on them were the tokins with 1002 error codes, he said this in his latest video the 360 vs ps3 video


Nofatchickzzzz

good to know, gonna check that video out


EternalSkullman

Mind looking at [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/ps3homebrew/s/dqFJJ8woMV) post? I just wanna be sure if any of the points presented are valid.


Nascar1243

That can be from a bga defect or from them using a heatgun too, so if the console received drop damage there could be that error code or if the console was heatgunned, considering the 1201 error codes I suspect it was heatgunned to death. If the 1201 wasn’t there then I would be more suspicious but 1201 is RSX overheating issues meaning they turned it on without letting it cool down and it overheated the gpu, usually if the heatsinks aren’t on the cell overheats first, not the gpu.


EternalSkullman

That was my first suspicion based on the codes too, just wanted to be sure. That, and the fact the syscon log was from a slim. Thanks.


Nascar1243

No problem


nroach44

I don't think it's necessary to delid the Cell, and it's also much harder (and riskier?). I probably wouldn't unless the temps were really bad.


Nascar1243

Not always necessary although I’ve run into scenarios where there isn’t really a choice but to delid it, I just set to 68c max and if the fan speed is over 40% then I consider a delid


KuraV12

Cell delid isn’t necessary for extending the lifespan, it can improve the console’s performance. And if your cell is overheating a delid usually fixes that aswell


Krybbz

Don't Frankie before the need to. And you'd be surprised how far it can take you taking the care suggested. It's just a matter of with time it's bound to happen but I wouldn't rush it coming to that point.


Specialist_Fox2684

Keep using your slim if you have one, buy a PS2, and let that Fatgirl just be pretty.


HisSvt2

This my launch fatty sits on a shelf next to my launch PS2 I use a PS2 slim and PS3 SS for playing


BlackRaptor124

if youre just gonna display it then let it get ylod anyway


KishiBashiEnjoyer

PS3 is way too amazing to rot away in some fucking display.


Mobius1701A

Gon be honest king; BC Ps3 are highly overrated unless you're a hardware modder. Even HENed can run most games you'd want, and an actual ps2 with an external and FreeMcBoot would run you less than trying to find a working BC Ps3 for actual use. If you've never owned a phatboi, you are in for a shock at how loud they are. There's a reason they used to sell those fan packs.


KishiBashiEnjoyer

I have owned a few phatties but their overall look is outstanding and I just adore the games that came out in the PS3 era


Specialist_Fox2684

Idiot you can have way more fun with a jail broke PS3 Slim.


KishiBashiEnjoyer

I could also have more fun with your mum and it would be even cheaper at that


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KishiBashiEnjoyer

Keep coping big boy


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bobbybooshay87

This thread is turning sad.


Specialist_Fox2684

Not all things need to be played with to be appreciated, ask any real collector.


Hestnet

Kinda pointless to have it then.


Specialist_Fox2684

Trust me collectors do not play with every toy.


THEROSEFACEKILLAH

I recently lucked into a PS3 Slim. Do I have to worry about any of the same issues involving the thermal paste and such? Thanks for any info.


Careless_Tax_9519

Thermal paste:yes,delid:no... depends on your slim model, but 25×× and above is good!!!


Hats_On_Chickens

Open it up and replace the thermal paste and thermal pads. You can prolong the life of the ps3 that way, but the absolute best way is the replace the gpu with a 65nm or 40nm RSX. That requires soldering experience and is very expensive but it’s the only real way to prevent YLOD from happening. Replacing NEC-Tokin capacitors could help, but it’s not confirmed to help.  Replacing RSX is the only surefire way to make your PS3 YLOD proof, hopefully


Peesncs

For someone’s who’s an idiot with this kind of stuff what is 65nm or 40nm RSX? It sounds like something I would probably have to do with my fat PS3. Thanks in advance


Nascar1243

So the 65nm RSX is found in the later phat models and first slim models, the 40nm RSX is found in the other slim models and some super slim models, basically the 90nm RSX has a bumpgate issue meaning at around 70c there is a underfill under the die that starts becoming soft and when it does it begins to fail, causing it to expand and cause the bumps to go under a large amount of stress causing bumpgate issues. The way to fix this is to replace it with a 65nm or 40nm RSX.


Tails1375

The rsx is the gpu chip. Swapping it involves special equipment and some practice


Nascar1243

Well not exactly, YLOD is a general hardware fault, the Frankenstein mod just fixes the 90nm issue but other things can go wrong but it’s not as likely, but then again that can happen to any console as nothing is invincible


Hats_On_Chickens

Yeah, but the RSX is typically the leading cause in YLOD cases for ps3 backwards compatible. Although other things can happen the RSX failing typically causes it. 


Nascar1243

I’m not disagreeing, just saying YLOD isn’t caused by one thing, even after the mod is done other things can still happen just with age. You are right that it does cause most YLOD in BC models, I was just saying with there being hundreds of parts on the board anything can happen


jstorm01

Thermal paste and thermal pads. I never delid any of my three fat PS3’s their whisper quiet by just doing the thermal pads and thermal paste . Install New clock battery too .


VaronDiStefano_____

Diet and exercise


Ok-Stress8541

Don't turn it on ever.


perfect-legend

That’s what I do lol


detained_

Same… waiting til frankenstein is more cost effective (which will probably never happen)


gummislayer1969

(Pretty much) THIS!!! 🤩👌🏾👏🏾


Nascar1243

You need to open it up, clean it, repaste it, jailbreak it, install webman, then set it to 68c max and you should be good to go for a while, if it gets very loud consider a delid


ps3cechc03

This is all the advice you need. Delid is going to be required. Practice on a few dead boards or just pay someone else to do it.


Nascar1243

I would honestly say after trying it personally to send it off to someone as unless you plan to delid a bunch of consoles you probably won’t save much money on a delid service compared to practicing on dead boards unless you already have them laying around.


Mr_Boombastic01

Look into seeing you can swap the PSU with a better one. And change the fan to 19 bladed fan. I did this and a thermal paste swap on my E01 I got about a year ago and it’s been extremely smooth. And dead silent at that. Like my PS5 is louder than my PS3.


Nascar1243

If it has a 226 it already has the best one it can get, the 231 runs hotter than the 226 and zssr due to them not having a higher power capacity, they can’t do nearly as much as the 226 so they reach their max power draw much easier than the 226


C4WolfUwU

Removing thermal paste etc is good. But it won’t do anything to stop YLOD. The launch model ps3 consoles all have a faulty 90nm GPU. if you want that console to last, get the chip replaced now while you can, that way you won’t have to worry about it. Look into getting the ps3 Frankenstein mod service if there is one in your country. Until then that console is a ticking time bomb.


ManLegPower

Also, definitely don’t leave it near the edge of a table, especially when vertical… like in this picture.


the_mocha_cafe

I don’t have anywhere else to put it sadly :( I live in a pretty small room atm


Ruhckus

If you are able to put things on a wall you can find a shelf for like $5-$10


No-Bet6043

Indeed, seeing it so close to the edge instantly made me anxious


Lightning_Of_Fate

Install cfw , install webman set max temp in webman to 68C gg.


the_mocha_cafe

I did that yesterday but oddly tho when I was playing PS2 games now it says it’s getting hot and will blast the fans when over the weekend when I was playing it didn’t do that.


Lightning_Of_Fate

Webman by default has the fan speed for ps2 games set to 40%. I don't remember where but there should be a setting in webman to adjust fan speed % in ps2 mode


the_mocha_cafe

Alright, I’ll check that out later today. Thank you for letting me know


abraxas8484

Give it a good cleaning inside and out. Fresh thermal paste and pads. Give the disk drive a good cleaning as well, give the rails some new lithium grease. Also change out the 2032 battery, still might be good but doesn't hurt. Maybe also give it a SSD drive, that way the speeds are fantastic and don't have to worry about the drive failing.


cliquealex

I also got a very old Slim one, I knew nothing about opening and replacing thermal paste but I still tried with the help of a YT video, it was DUSTY in there and the thermal paste was pretty much dry and breaking apart, I'm sure you could do it too just be sure to plug everything back correctly


jaffer2003sadiq

Install cfw and see the temperatures and if they are high change the thermal paste.


Glass-Joke-3825

If you're confident, delid the CPU and GPU and replace the thermal paste on the dies, best you can do if not is to replace the thermal paste on the Heat spreaders and ensure the console is free of dust. You can't stop a PS3 phat from dying as they all will eventually give up the ghost (My phat died a few weeks ago after 7 years of ownership), but you can make it last a bit longer.


the_mocha_cafe

I have a dead E01 to practice on so I am eventually gonna try the delid but not immediately. I am gonna change the paste once I get more thermal paste and clean any dust out. Other people here were talking about a “Frankenstein” mod which replaces the 90nm RSX with a newer 65 or 40nm. Maybe that’s something that’ll fix your console


Glass-Joke-3825

Yeah, I did think about making my console a Frankie but I can't find anyone in my area that could reliably do the mod, and I've got a CFW slim anyway so I'm ok with that.


Zhaizo

I have replaced and reapplied thermal paste on my PS3 so many times, and i am sure i am doing it right, but the fan speed will never go down. I assume its delid time right? Cant think of anything else.


Beneficial-Truth1509

Buying fat ps3s solely for playing ps2 games is dumb in my opinion. You can play ps2 games 10 times better than a fat ps3 by emulating them on a dirt cheap pc. If you want to play ps3 games buy a slim or even better a super slim.


the_mocha_cafe

I didn’t buy it solely for that, I wanna play PS3 games on it but I’m scared that will make its eventual death come faster


Careless_Tax_9519

Imo just buy a slim there dirt cheap I got one yesterday for a case of beers


westcoastbcbud

you know emulation has a ton of issues right? all i want to do is play incredible hulk ultimate destruction but my cfw fat 80gb ps3 still gets texture issues, and same thing happens on an emulator


Bartje9792

I never did any maintenance on it, just cleaned the dust from the fan once in a while. It's still running fine after 15 years.


the_mocha_cafe

dang…I’ll definitely open it up and clean it, but I’m still gonna change out the paste and pads because if I’m gonna open it, might as well handle that too.


whyshehavetoscream

Get it refurbished thermal paste ect or mod it first if yu have anything on it so yu can place save data pic music on a usb drive there is a guy on YouTube called computerbootin and he is able to replace the rsx and program it for 600 hundred


13thArmoredDiv

first thing first bro don’t keep it on the EDGE!


the_mocha_cafe

I have no where else to put it :(


BoundAndUse

100% everything everyones said here. Maintenance, maintenance, maintenance. The PS3 fatboy model is quite a sturdy machine, I lived in a very VERY warm room, poor ventilation, smoked heavily and had pets and mine never faulted after 4 years before I upgraded to the slim. If you want that bad boy beast, large and in charge console to live as long as possible, its time to learn about it! Educate yourself on YouTube and anywhere else you can find guides as to tearing it down and thoroughly cleaning it out. Build ups of dust biscuits can be an absolute killer for cooling systems, my PS4 Pro(yes, PlayStation 4) used to sound like a jet engnine struggling underwater while also choking on its own gravitas UNTIL I dismantled the thing and removed a solid 3 inches of dust from its grills, and at that point I just replaced the fan and grills with a fan a little more powerful, and now I run monthly checks on all my consoles (PS5, Xbox Series X and S, I have a switch but the second hand market for switches is unbelievable, only reason to buy a switch new is for the guarantee/new box smell. Rambled a little there. Look, invest in your tech if you want it to last. Yes its a bundle of rigid plastics and metals bolted and soldered together but they still need some TLC! One other word of advice, is get a better HDD for the thing. The stock HDDs Sony used were NOTORIOUSLY slow, and get slower and slower as they go on. Back up that drive using guides and set up a new HDD. Hell, buy an external drive with a USB cable on it, most of the time those external drives (usually the laptop ones, smaller profile external HDDs) are straight up laptop HDDs in a case. I had an HP one, Ill find the make and model if you like, which was literally just a laptop drive in a chassis and an adapter so the HDD ports could be plugged into a USB wire. Even better, ask the pros. Send Sony an email, they wont support the console anymore but they may very well have a guide for post support care of your console.


Typical_Highway154

Send it to StudioHalabi on eBay for delidding , new thermal pads , fan curve mod and if you have budget , get the tokin caps upgraded. I had my A01 done 3 years ago and it’s still going very strong with 223 days of run time on it.


gummislayer1969

THIS!!! I think I had these fine folks delib my "phatgirl" & repasted bout 7 years ago. The fans kinda rev up a bit - (still), but I hardly play on it at all. I'm prolly going to eventually get a Retro Gem for my PS2 & semi-retire the "girl". I LOVE her...but I'm afraid she'll overheat!!! 🙈🖐🏾🥵


Cryptocoiner256

I’d move it away from the edge of the desk for starters


callumhand

Honestly just play in a cool room and calm down about the PS3 games . I've been playing mine since it came out and it only needed a bit of dusting so I used the fan test to blow the dust out. I strongly recommend getting GTA V tho


the_mocha_cafe

Mine doesn’t have the fan test as that was added in newer models, but I will definitely clean it out and change the thermal paste and pads! And I did try some PS3 games, I got risky with MGS4 and it ran pretty well but the fans were a bit loud, and I’m downloading GTA IV as it’s a game I’ve always wanted to play.


callumhand

Loud fans are normal for PlayStation 😂


callumhand

It's always been a thing


jeers69

Don’t playit


fedexgroundemployee

Ahhh back when we purchased to own games!


Horrorkosmic

I wouldn't worry too much about it failing. It has been mentioned before but install a custom firmware so you can monitor the temps and control the fan speed. Make sure it has ample breathing room which from the picture it looks like it does. use a newer model for ps3 games and this for older games "ps1, ps2, psp" to not tax the system so much. There are some mods you can do that don't require much knowledge or risk: Replace the thermal paste on the CPU / GPU. Install newer fan. I believe the newer one has 9 blades but I don't remember. Replace the power supply with a newer model. If your fat ps3 has a power supply with a metal shell you can get the newer "plastic" shell power supply that runs cooler, this should reduce the overall internal temps. Replace the HDD with an SSD. you won't see any performance differences but the SSD will use less power and run cooler. Although we're talking maybe 1 degree difference internally. This is more like quality of life since an SSD could last longer and since there's no performance difference you can go for a super cheap but reliable SSD. To put into perspective. I have one and it's lasted me over 6 years.


iVirtualZero

If you want to go all out and money isn't a problem. Thermal Paste, Delidding Cell using dental floss wire still not easy but will not scratch the Cell, RSX can be delidded with heat and a dental tool to lift off the IHS, Tantelizers to replace the NEC Tokins, I recommend downloading the Gerber files and sending it to PCB way along with the components for them to populate the PCB's with, you will need 8 for a complete NEC Tokin replacement. 40nm RSX mod many RSX chips can be found on Ali Express and then you can get someone who does BGA swaps to swap the chips out. Now none of these are easy and you don't need to do all of them, but the RSX can be Delidded using a heatgun or a rework station and send lightly use a flat metal tool to lift off the IHS. You can leave the Cell and the South Bridge they don't need delidding and you can replace the thermal pads with high quality ones from Arctic, Gelid, Thermal Right etc and then install CFW, Swap the HDD out with an SSD or a new HDD or an SSHD and your all good.


MattHardwick

Don’t run it vertical for a start. 😅


SagnolThGangster

This is a ticking bomb. Replace the thermal paste but it will explode sometime. Get rid of that shit and buy a super slim. If you are into BC buy a portable gaming device or use your PC.


seymourbuttz214

Specifically which portable gaming device were you speaking of? Not asking for a friend haha I need to know haha but yeah I’m curious there’s quite a lot, but specifically ps3 aren’t able to be emulated yet and might be for awhile


SagnolThGangster

Hehe. Check out Anbernic devices. I bought 353VS which can emulate all retro and ps1-psp titles. If you pay a little more you can emulate Ps2 titles in newer devices. To be honest the perfect emulation device is the Steam Deck. You can even play Ps3 titles in there.


seymourbuttz214

👀👀👀 well well, steam deck might have to be the way


Flat-Attitude

Set fan controls to 70


ps2cv

Use it less


RiverAffectionate183

Move it away from the edge of the desk would be a great start!!


the_mocha_cafe

I don’t have anywhere else to put it


North-Fan-7168

It’ll need a re-ball as it will fail eventually (see: Nvidia bump-gate). The best thing you can do is buy a unit manufactured after the issue was resolved (around 2010). The least error prone is the 43xx series as it has the smallest CPU and more importantly, the smallest and most efficient version of the RSX GPU (28nm down from a whopping 90nm at launch). I recently went full collector mode and bought a 4301, cleaned the interior, re-applied thermal paste on the CPU and GPU and replaced the stock HDD with a Kingston SSD.


ForwardHandle4522

Thermal paste change sometimes fans can also need updated as well as a SSD


StyleWithAltitude

Let it breathe give it space for a wall or furniture


ReadPixel

Replace the thermal paste, mod and add webman dynamic fan mod


OkContribution4087

ive had my ps3 since release never cleaned it or anything and it works like new


QuandaliasDingle

AppleCare


the_mocha_cafe

I wish


Weak_Crew_8112

Your right. Keep playing your shitty PS3.


digital-comics-psp

strap a radio controlled bomb to it, right above the wifi and bt antenna. temps will fall to room temp, fps will go beyond an e-ink display's refresh rate and plastic will go flying, truly the most immersive experience for mw2 not sure how it will go with any other game though.


Benosoar

“that’s the neat part, you don’t”


NeedRedditDose

Well first make sure to lay it flat.


the_mocha_cafe

I don’t have the space to lay it flat sadly…if I could I would


edsavage404

Plenty of water and no greasy foods.


CaregiverWest9850

Pray.


idontlikeatingcake

Clean and check it regularly?


RelevantWeight6907

Find a good technician and get a 45nm Frankenstein mod You'll be paying ALOT but this is the only way


the_mocha_cafe

Yea..I knew about the Frankenstein mod, and told myself that if it dies then I’d do that, and luckily I know some some people who are good with a soldering and stuff and a dead E01 to practice with


CareerStraight7839

frankenstein is the best way i guess


Finance_Willing

You can’t. If it’s made by man it will fail one day that’s just life. You can do small things to ensure a longer life span like thermo replacing and cleaning it regularly


Bambrigade92

What I do is that I have a PS2 and a PS3 Slim that I play games with. My PS3 Fat works but it is on display only!


Deep-Capital-6018

I bought mine on day one and I just had It opened last year for the first time. It played PS3 games fine,PS1 PS2 kind of stuttered. They replaced the Blu-ray drive and the thermal paste and cleaned it. Their comment was most people who play Call of Duty killed their machines because it wasn't Built to handle that kind of data on a side note. I play mostly r p g's and i've never had an issue until then, sound, it works amazingI bought mine on day one and I just had. It opened last year for the first time play. P. S3 games, 5PS1 and PS2 kind of stuttered. They replace the Blu-ray drive and the thermal paste and cleaned it. Their comment was most people who play Call of Duty killed their machines because it wasn't Built to handle that kind of data..... on a side note. I play mostly RPG's and I've never had an issue until then. Now it works amazing again.


NeoKnightRider

Daily cleaning with a small vacuum Replace the coin battery Get an external SSD and an internal one (both 2TB) to transfer things And keep in a well ventilated area. And also replace the thermal paste on the motherboard.


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NeoKnightRider

Then a 1TB. Forgot about its storage capacity for a sec.


InfiniteOscar1

I’ve got a super slim and I literally haven’t done anything besides clean it with a vacuum and it runs fine, I’ve had it for probably 10+ years now. I dunno how much different it is to the fat though


Renegade_Soviet

You don’t, you can reapply thermal paste to help the temp, but you mostly just hope it wakes up tomorrow.


Havoc_Maker

Replace thermal paste, and for the love of god, replace the thermal pads aswell since the ones that Sony used are complete trash and they are not even measured properly. Also a delid would help but it's very hard to do. Honestly even with that you are not assuring anything, these consoles are so unreliable and maybe someday it just dies on you for no reason


Nascar1243

If you use thermal pads that are too thick then you create bad contact with the heatsinks for the cell and RSX and also can create bga defects under the chips that are affected, just use whatever sony put. They are measured correctly.


Havoc_Maker

They are way too small to cover some of the chips they are used in and they are bad quality, and a shit ton of years old. It's better to replace them, using the correct thickness


Nascar1243

If they have lasted this long then they were fine, remember they have been in these consoles for nearly 2 decades in some cases, if they were bad then consoles would be dying from bad Southbridges or other chips that were cooled using thermal pads. Although yes they should be replaced they are the correct thickness and the correct size, I would not go any bigger than what Sony used as there is a reason why they chose to do it that way. It’s better to just replace thermal pads with whatever the factory used than replace it with something that is bigger or thicker than stock, thicker can do some negative effects, but bigger more than likely won’t change anything at all for thermals or not enough to be a noticeable difference


You-Ignoramus

My old dusty PS3 can't even connect to the internet anymore. It also won't connect with the controllers unless one of them is plugged in.


ExcellentHorror7159

1. Don't play Skyrim 2. Don't play any Bethesda game 3. Avoid playing online 4. Read the first two points again


Optimal_Version_2788

good airflow. regularly clean the dust. when you notice a buildup. replace thermal paste with a good one.


thelonedeeranger

You can put it in a freezer. Works for meat so probably for ps3 as a well


GeorgeSPattonJr

With a BC PS3 it’s only a matter of time until it YLODs due to the nature of the beast. I would say to invest/save up for a frankie for when it does. It’s very expensive(six of your finest Benjamin’s) but it will bring it back from the dead when it dies. Other than that, delid/ repaste as the other comments are saying. Plus keep it well ventilated, ie a few inches of space on either side


Weak_Crew_8112

Get a pc and download rpcs3. All PS3 games are playable with better quality on PC now.


andalesalsa

pc for that costs at least 6 times more than a ps3


Weak_Crew_8112

Yes but then you can play tons of PC games at max settings and pretty much every game released on every console up until PS4 / Xbox One


andalesalsa

you do know that people live outside of the usa right? 600$ is a lot of money for some people, myself included. i make 900$ a month and that is more than my mom and dad combined.


Retrodiazepine

That bad boy? Gonna die sooner or later unfortunately.


aperturegrille

Easy fix is buy a slim, buy a ps2.