If I'm attempting to piss people off it is pronounced _mah-goose_.
Edit: My GM saw this and has banned me from playing Magus for the foreseeable future.
I once heard someone say "There's two ways to speak Latin: the incorrect way to mispronounce it the correct way to mispronounce it".
I always wanted to go back in time and listen to an actual Latin speaker, just to know how close our understanding of the language actually is.
Sorry, useless tangent, I know. :)
That races to a subtle rule in English (which, like most rules in English, has plenty of exceptions), where the noun form of a word stresses the first syllable and the verb form stresses the second. Think "I bought a record" vs "Please record this"
It's funny that photograph is a new enough word that photograph the noun and photograph the verb are both pronounced the same, but that photographer, which is a noun built off of the verb form, *does* follow the verb-stress rule.
English is weird.
American Version 1: Magus, mā - guhs.
American Version 2: Magus, may-jus. (Also possible English Version 2)
English Version 1: Magus, may-guhs (also possible American Version 3)
Greek: μάγος, mah - gohs.
Ancient Persian: 𐎶𐎦𐎢, mah - goosh.
Modern Persian: مگوش, mah - goosh.
Modern Arabic: مجوس, ma-joo-s^h(?)
Modern Hebrew: מְכַשֵׁף, meh-keh-shey(?).
Maggy: mā-gees, cause she’s just full of herself.
**I also have no degree or authority in linguistics, but I do have a B.S. in Boredom.**
Feel free to correct me, actual speakers. I tried my best researching and using text-to-audio to find some of the other stuff out.
Since it’s not a native word to English, it’s sort of adapted to however folks want to say it. Also doesn’t help that we have distinct regional accents in the U.S.
**TLDR**: I personally like American Version 1, as it kinda fits the most American way of saying things (we use more flat vowels).
However, considering that English “Mages” comes from Latin “Magus””, I think American Version 2 might be the actual correct term for our region.
So, I prefer “mā-guhs”, but I believe “may-juhs” is actually the correct pronunciation.
It's /ˈmeɪɡəs/ in both US and UK standard dialects. So **may**-gus.
the /eɪ/ and /ə/ would adjust to how those sounds appear in a dialect as part of the "lexical set". In my case that would be /ˈmæjɡəs/ with a lowered schwa.
The reason it is an /eɪ/ sound is that the long A in English was affected by an upwards chain shift of long vowels (the Great Vowel Shift). So A corresponds to a different sound from most languages.
"Since it’s not a native word to English...."
It's been in English since the late 14th century. Sure it comes from Old Persian via Latin and Greek, but most of English didn't start off in English.
The Hebrew one is pronounced "Meh - khah - shef".
the meaning of the word would be closer to "enchanter", though. So I think it's just coincidental that they start alike.
The Hebrew word for a mage (or magus) would be קוסם, pronounced "kos - em"
Mage-us / Maj-eye
Like Cactus/Cacti except the A in Magi gets shortened.
This is also hard to describe via text bc I know americans often can't make the short-A sound I'm referring to.
Má-guus.
Here in Brazil, (or at least I and people I've seen...), we pronounce Má, (the accent, I know it might be strange for you, is to show the strength of the "a"), guus, (I put two "u" to try to demonstrate that we pronounce it with force in "u" but not strong like "a"), so Má-guus.
Unlike the other classes, this one was not translated into Portuguese, I don't think there is a word that describes it better, so they kept it.
For curiosity's sake:
Wizard-Mago
Rogue-Ladino
Monk-Monge
Druid-Druida
Sorcerer-Feiticeiro
Ranger-Patrulheiro
Bard-Bardo
Champion-Campeão
Barbarian-Bárbaro
Usually Mah-gus nowadays. My first exposure to the word was one of the antagonists from Chrono Trigger. Back then, I said “May-gus” because, to me, that sounded better as a name.
I don't care what's proper or phonetically correct. Maggus vs Mayjus is decided by one factor for me, and that's how cool it is to say. Mayjus wins by a mile and I will never stop pronouncing it that way
Whichever way I pick, as my mouth forms the word an alarm bell unfailingly goes off in the back of my head telling me I'm saying it wrong.
I detest the term. 😆
Pretty much any way possible. I've looked it up, and forgotten the "official" way. When I was a teen I played Chrono Trigger and the character named "Magus" my friends that also played it and I just kinda assigned it what we thought was right for the name so it could be whatever.
Then again, I learned Japanese and I later learned that "chocobo" was indeed pronounced "CHOKOBO" not "KOKOBO," so I'm not opposed to learning an official pronunciation.
I pronounce it “May-Juh-ss”
Similar to the singular of magi.
A little weird for an arcane gish to share a name with an archaic caste of Persian priests but not really much weirder than druids in dnd being named after ancient Celtic priests.
They both can wield staves I suppose.
May-jus.
I know it's not canon or technically right, but I would rather drink battery acid than say 'mah-gus' or 'may-gus'. That hard g sounds so horrible to my ears.
Well, I'm going to give my opinion as a Spanish speaker.
The ancient Persian word "magi" referred to a type of priest with great knowledge in various fields, acting as doctors, herbalists, astronomers and astrologers, alchemyst and other tasks (mundane and esoteric). Many of this knowledge was, for them, ritual practices and seen, for people outside their culture, as magic. in fact, the word Magic, "MAGIA" in Spanish, magician, mage, mago (in Spanish) or its versions in any other language, derive from \*timbal roll\* the Latin word MAGUS, which was the word used for refer to these priests but, also and over time, to refer to magicians, witches, mages as we understand them today.
Taking this into account, I think it should sound like the Latin word, which has a similar pronunciation to Spanish.
and, by phonetics
Mah-Goose or Mag-us
but if you prefer a more Anglo-Saxon phonetic, I think that MEY-GUHS it's a good option
BTW, I think everyone is free to pronounce it however they prefer.
so, in the acts of the apostles, there's a character named Simon Magus, and the priests always pronounced it "May-gus", so that is how I pronounce it.
The only magus at any of my tables is played by my dad, who paid for me to go to Catholic school, so I strictly enforce the "May-gus" pronunciation.
I pronounce it using the first "m" in mnemonic, the third "a" from banana. The "g" in enough. The first "u" from ubiquitous, and final "s" in Arkansas.
"A-uuu-aw!"
We have since moved to a different game. Especially after a player came to a table with a fighter.
This has been really informative, because I've been pronouncing it "Bladebound Kensai with an Estoc, pumping Dex and Int, making sure to clear with my GM that Fencing Grace works with Spell Combat. Also make up a nice backstory that moves me through Tien Xia to justify picking up Wayang Spellhunter for my Shocking Grasps."
I still like my pronunciation, I guess I'm just so used to it, so I'm going to keep using it.
If I'm attempting to piss people off it is pronounced _mah-goose_. Edit: My GM saw this and has banned me from playing Magus for the foreseeable future.
*tips fedora* M'goose
M'lard
The nobility of the pond
honk
Peace was never an option.
Brilliant awakened animal character concept
With Yaoguai just released, awakened animal on its way, and beastkin that's already there, options are plentiful!
Yes officer this one right here
We don't invoke goose lightly around here. They might hear and be summoned.
Summon Nature's Enemy
Summon Rampaging Demon
Peace was never an option. Shocking Grasp, however, is.
That's technically the correct pronunciation if you want to stick to the original Latin.
That's a definite bonus, yes.
But you have stress your ownership of the goose: *mah*-goose
I once heard someone say "There's two ways to speak Latin: the incorrect way to mispronounce it the correct way to mispronounce it". I always wanted to go back in time and listen to an actual Latin speaker, just to know how close our understanding of the language actually is. Sorry, useless tangent, I know. :)
[it's a fucked up name Hooey Mcgoose](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qYiJ_0OwaF4)
In spanish we pronounce it that way XD.
May-gus
This is the way
No, this is the may
No, this is PATRICK!
This. Is. SPARTA!
Foolishness… [This is power.](https://youtu.be/GEZON93hV-s?si=xkWw838C_mNi3jBA)
😜
Rubick Dota 2 locked my pronunciation of magus to this one.
This. Much like Animagus in Harry Potter
Thank you dota 2 rubick for teaching me this word
The imposter's a magus ඞ
This is how it was pronounced in the 90s Gargoyles cartoon. So it's how I'll always say it.
Mah-gus, but I'm not American, so we just say the way most people in my country would say a similar word.
Yeah, not having to deal with inconsistent English pronunciation if you don't want to is great :D
I mean, but if you say it like that, isn't it just "wizards"?
Yes, it is absolutely is, and yes, it is confusing
Ha! I caught you! r/suddenlycaralho Muahahahahahahhahaha
Realmente, brasileiro aqui kkk
Onde que não tem brasileiro, na real?
Hahaha tava pronto pra colocar isso hahaha
Wizard = mago Magus = magus
Same
Mag-us, though I pronounce Magi as Mage-I so I'm not exactly consistent :P
Lots of words change pronunciation like that. For example: Photograph vs Photographer
That races to a subtle rule in English (which, like most rules in English, has plenty of exceptions), where the noun form of a word stresses the first syllable and the verb form stresses the second. Think "I bought a record" vs "Please record this"
It's funny that photograph is a new enough word that photograph the noun and photograph the verb are both pronounced the same, but that photographer, which is a noun built off of the verb form, *does* follow the verb-stress rule. English is weird.
Pho-tog-raff. defy norms
I'm more of a photo-grayfer kinda guy.
Same. Wouldn't want to piss off Bayaz!
Same here. Though my justification doesn't go too far beyond "I think it sounds cooler that way," haha.
"Spellsword"
the starlit span in question:
In English: May Gus. Otherwise, Mah Ghusse
M'gussie
Magussy got me actin’ most unwise
Amagus ඞ
Arcane suscade.
Seems sus.
Correctly.
May-gus and Mah-jai if plural.
“Magus.”
May like the month, Gus like the name.
I know it's wrong but I always say/think "Mage-us"
Do you want based on English, American, Greek, or Persian linguistics?
all of them, please
American Version 1: Magus, mā - guhs. American Version 2: Magus, may-jus. (Also possible English Version 2) English Version 1: Magus, may-guhs (also possible American Version 3) Greek: μάγος, mah - gohs. Ancient Persian: 𐎶𐎦𐎢, mah - goosh. Modern Persian: مگوش, mah - goosh. Modern Arabic: مجوس, ma-joo-s^h(?) Modern Hebrew: מְכַשֵׁף, meh-keh-shey(?). Maggy: mā-gees, cause she’s just full of herself. **I also have no degree or authority in linguistics, but I do have a B.S. in Boredom.** Feel free to correct me, actual speakers. I tried my best researching and using text-to-audio to find some of the other stuff out. Since it’s not a native word to English, it’s sort of adapted to however folks want to say it. Also doesn’t help that we have distinct regional accents in the U.S. **TLDR**: I personally like American Version 1, as it kinda fits the most American way of saying things (we use more flat vowels). However, considering that English “Mages” comes from Latin “Magus””, I think American Version 2 might be the actual correct term for our region. So, I prefer “mā-guhs”, but I believe “may-juhs” is actually the correct pronunciation.
It's /ˈmeɪɡəs/ in both US and UK standard dialects. So **may**-gus. the /eɪ/ and /ə/ would adjust to how those sounds appear in a dialect as part of the "lexical set". In my case that would be /ˈmæjɡəs/ with a lowered schwa. The reason it is an /eɪ/ sound is that the long A in English was affected by an upwards chain shift of long vowels (the Great Vowel Shift). So A corresponds to a different sound from most languages. "Since it’s not a native word to English...." It's been in English since the late 14th century. Sure it comes from Old Persian via Latin and Greek, but most of English didn't start off in English.
The Hebrew one is pronounced "Meh - khah - shef". the meaning of the word would be closer to "enchanter", though. So I think it's just coincidental that they start alike. The Hebrew word for a mage (or magus) would be קוסם, pronounced "kos - em"
Neat! Thank you!
Magi = maj-eye maj (as in magic) / eye (as in eye) Magus = mag-us mag (as in magazine) / us (as in us)
"May" like the month, "Gus" like "Us."
Mah-goose.
I wait for someone else at the table to pronounce it first then do it the other way and see if it bothers them.
"Ma-gus", with a "g" as in "GIF"
Subtlety noted.
May Gus
"May-Gus"
Mage-us / Maj-eye Like Cactus/Cacti except the A in Magi gets shortened. This is also hard to describe via text bc I know americans often can't make the short-A sound I'm referring to.
Like AMOGUS but MAGUS instead.
I pronounce it Magus.
I say ma-gus but syllables are usually very flat in my language.
Mah-jus, like ‘majesty’ but without the ‘tee’, like how I pronounce ‘magi’ as ‘madge-eye’
I say Mag-gus, I don't know why though
Mag-us or Muh-gus
Mag-nus because I’m a little stupid
Mag like Maggie and us. Magus.
Ma-gus. Ma as in map, gus as in gust, though sometimes I pronounced like gis in haggis.
War-Mage..... 😉
May-Gus is how I’ve heard it pronounced.
May-gus.
May gus
The IPA spelling is /ˈmeɪɡəs/. Closer to mah-gus than mag-us though, as others point out, it's pounced like May and Gus.
We the Spanish players: oh, that say Magus... so it sounds like magus :D.
I swap every time I say it in hopes of gaslighting people when they ask me about it.
Má-guus. Here in Brazil, (or at least I and people I've seen...), we pronounce Má, (the accent, I know it might be strange for you, is to show the strength of the "a"), guus, (I put two "u" to try to demonstrate that we pronounce it with force in "u" but not strong like "a"), so Má-guus. Unlike the other classes, this one was not translated into Portuguese, I don't think there is a word that describes it better, so they kept it. For curiosity's sake: Wizard-Mago Rogue-Ladino Monk-Monge Druid-Druida Sorcerer-Feiticeiro Ranger-Patrulheiro Bard-Bardo Champion-Campeão Barbarian-Bárbaro
May-gus
Mag-us
"Magus"
May-gus
Well, it's a latinization of a Persian root word for magician. So the correct pronunciation is Mah•gus
May-gus.
May-gus
"Gish"
Either May-guhs which is the correct pronunciation or "mah-guhs" which feels more right to me. And of course the plural is mah-jai
Mage-us.
In whatever way that annoys people the most
Mage-us
I veer between May-jus, and May-gus for the singular, but always May-jeye for plural.
Zap zap slicey slice
Mag-us sounds like some kind of vegetable or Scottish food. May-gus sounds cool and not to similar to other words.
Black blade bound kensei is how I pronounce it.
May-Gus
Mag-is. Soft g, short a. Like magic but if you replace the C with an S.
If Rubick is wrong I never want to be right.
May-Gus Phonetically: meɪgəs
May-gus
Mage-us/May-jus and I don't care if it's wrong
Mayj, Maj eye, Mag us
May-gus. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/magus
May-Gus
I go with Mah-jus
From the French, meh-joo.
MAYG-us
I mean, I say it may-gus
Yole digo el magú
Usually Mah-gus nowadays. My first exposure to the word was one of the antagonists from Chrono Trigger. Back then, I said “May-gus” because, to me, that sounded better as a name.
May-gus
I never remember the Chrono Trigger fanbase having as much trouble with this word as the Pathfinder fanbase does.
May-gus.
I've also heard "May-gus", just to add to the fire
Google says it's (British pronunciation, even though I'm canadian) "may-gus". Which is what we've been saying at our table for months.
May-j*is* (j*is* like bl**is**s)
Mage-us or Mah-Jus.
I don't care what's proper or phonetically correct. Maggus vs Mayjus is decided by one factor for me, and that's how cool it is to say. Mayjus wins by a mile and I will never stop pronouncing it that way
mAA-guhs, like magazine as you said
May-Gus
May-gus
"May-Gus" is how I pronounce it.
Whichever way I pick, as my mouth forms the word an alarm bell unfailingly goes off in the back of my head telling me I'm saying it wrong. I detest the term. 😆
I'm not at all consistent about it. I try one pronunciation, am dissatisfied, try another, and repeat.
Dictionary says "May-gus" so thats how I shall say it.
I've always said may-gus. Sometimes mag-us comes out, but it's rare.
Wait how is mah-gus different from mag-us
Magnus
Mah-gus because Im german. May-jus might very well be correct in englisch but I hate how it sounds.
I say Mage-us.
Like that video of all the types of amogs ma-GUS Is probably closer to the actual intended pronunciation since it most likely comes from Magi
It's been may-guss for me.
"May-gus" I think Trump says it as "MAGA -US"
MAY-Gus (hard G)
Pretty much any way possible. I've looked it up, and forgotten the "official" way. When I was a teen I played Chrono Trigger and the character named "Magus" my friends that also played it and I just kinda assigned it what we thought was right for the name so it could be whatever. Then again, I learned Japanese and I later learned that "chocobo" was indeed pronounced "CHOKOBO" not "KOKOBO," so I'm not opposed to learning an official pronunciation.
I pronounce it “May-Juh-ss” Similar to the singular of magi. A little weird for an arcane gish to share a name with an archaic caste of Persian priests but not really much weirder than druids in dnd being named after ancient Celtic priests. They both can wield staves I suppose.
Mag-us/may-gus Ma as in the first syllable of mage, gus as in… Gus. The same emphasis on G as in guess
Ma' Guss
Mag-as
I'm speaking a language where s is not the s (IPA) sound, but ʃ (IPA). So maːɡuʃ for me.
MAG - oose Like magazine and goose, but more like a ma-gus
Ma-gus
Maig-us, may-gews or May-goose here.
magoo
M'au jus But actually mag-us
May gust.
I say mage-us. Mag as in magic, or mage, or magenta (irrelevant but applicable). No idea what they have to do with magnets, so a hard g is not for me.
It's the Greek/Roman word for magician, pronounced May (like the month) - Gauss (like the rifle)
Like with anything hard to pronounce, I end up switching randomly between all the pronunciations. No consistency.
It’s from ancient Latin, so it’s the second option.
Mah-gus
Since I’m Brazilian, pretty much with my accent
/maːɡʊs/
Mag (magazine) us (you and I = us)
I never get why english native english speakers get confused on how to pronounce their own language, just fucking say it how its written
It is may-gus. However, multiple would be ma-jai.
Wiz-zard
Magus: MAG-us Magi: MAG-us-ez
Mæ-gås
“Ma” like in “mcdonalds”. “G” like in “green”. “U” like in “pussy”. “S” like in “bus”. Magus.
I do it now like May-Gus
Surprised i haven't seen any "Mah-jus" pronunciations in these comments. Is that just me?
I pronounce it as "may" "jus", y'know, the correct way (I kid. English is a beautiful and horrible bastard).
Mage-us, and magi is pronounce like maj-eye. Always figured it’s supposed to be like Medjay
May-gus
Stab-zapper
May-jus. I know it's not canon or technically right, but I would rather drink battery acid than say 'mah-gus' or 'may-gus'. That hard g sounds so horrible to my ears.
like “magi” or “magic” so “MAjjus” (with “u” being a schwa)
Mae-gus
Well, I'm going to give my opinion as a Spanish speaker. The ancient Persian word "magi" referred to a type of priest with great knowledge in various fields, acting as doctors, herbalists, astronomers and astrologers, alchemyst and other tasks (mundane and esoteric). Many of this knowledge was, for them, ritual practices and seen, for people outside their culture, as magic. in fact, the word Magic, "MAGIA" in Spanish, magician, mage, mago (in Spanish) or its versions in any other language, derive from \*timbal roll\* the Latin word MAGUS, which was the word used for refer to these priests but, also and over time, to refer to magicians, witches, mages as we understand them today. Taking this into account, I think it should sound like the Latin word, which has a similar pronunciation to Spanish. and, by phonetics Mah-Goose or Mag-us but if you prefer a more Anglo-Saxon phonetic, I think that MEY-GUHS it's a good option BTW, I think everyone is free to pronounce it however they prefer.
"May-gus" not "Magg-us"
The same g as in .gif... *Runs away*
so, in the acts of the apostles, there's a character named Simon Magus, and the priests always pronounced it "May-gus", so that is how I pronounce it. The only magus at any of my tables is played by my dad, who paid for me to go to Catholic school, so I strictly enforce the "May-gus" pronunciation.
"May-gus" for me, but I've heard "may-jus" too. Anything else is foreign to me
May Gus or Mag Us. It really is random and I can never decide which one to stick with.
I pronounce the first syllable as “mæg,” the same way that Minnesotans generally pronounce “bag.”
May-gihs No pronounced "u" sound.
May-guss is the proper way, I think, but I always say "mag-us" like "bag-us"
I pronounce it using the first "m" in mnemonic, the third "a" from banana. The "g" in enough. The first "u" from ubiquitous, and final "s" in Arkansas. "A-uuu-aw!" We have since moved to a different game. Especially after a player came to a table with a fighter.
Magoose
This has been really informative, because I've been pronouncing it "Bladebound Kensai with an Estoc, pumping Dex and Int, making sure to clear with my GM that Fencing Grace works with Spell Combat. Also make up a nice backstory that moves me through Tien Xia to justify picking up Wayang Spellhunter for my Shocking Grasps." I still like my pronunciation, I guess I'm just so used to it, so I'm going to keep using it.
Dame Ayelin says "MAY-gis" so thats what I go with.