I was confused by the brilliance of the reply. I started wondering if I forgot about an injury Drew suffered while playing for Buffalo, and then I sat and wondered why a Bills fans would want Drew healthy. Then it hit me like Mo Lewis.
Bills Mafia are really a fanbase of idiots, especially when you see all the dumb shit they do that makes the majority of other teams’ fans, including the most fanatical & rowdy ones in PatsNation look like calm, cool, and collective bunch of respectful & intelligent individuals ever!
Maybe they take it. I’m not sure. They fell a long way between 16-0 in 07 and “I can’t get these guys to play the way I need to” in 09. They certainly make the playoffs with Brady and maybe they go all the way, but there were some cracks forming.
They were 11-5 with Matt Cassel, Brady certainly would have gotten 3-4 more wins. Brady would feel like he had something to prove in after losing the perfect season. If Brady is healthy and playing in ‘08 I’m extremely confident they’d get to the Super Bowl again and likely win.
The 5 games they lost were Miami, San Diego, Pittsburgh, the Jets and Indy. I think Tom definitely wins the Indy game. I'll give you the Jets game too, though Cassel played well and wasn't close to why they lost.
Miami, San Diego and Pittsburgh are tougher sells. Maybe Pittsburgh since Brady owned them from day one. But that was the best Steelers team we've seen yet (post Roethlisberger being drafted, I mean). The Dolphins and Chargers, the way those games went, Brady wouldn't have made a ton of difference. They weren't ready to go.
So that's 13-3, maybe 14-2. They're likely the 1 seed, they probably have a great shot at making it back. I just think people assume the 2008 team was primed to play like the 2007 team, and I don't think that's the case.
If Gronk doesn’t get his foot/ ankle fucked up by Patriot killer Bernard Pollard (went very low on TB12’s knee/ leg, causing that awful injury in the form of the torn ACL season-ending catastrophe in Week 1 of the 2008 regular season, then in week 17 of 2009 w/ Wes Welker’s torn ACL, even though the turf influenced that in addition to Pollard being right there, losing Wes in the regular season finale which made it easy to be proud1 & done that year against the ravens), we win the Super Bowl easily going away, and if Gronk stays healthy in 2012/2013 like he did in 2014, they’d likely get by the Ravens/ Broncos in those 2 tough back-to-back AFC Championship losses, and shit would be different, perhaps even more Trophies & rings for the mantle @ 1 Patriots Place in Foxboro, Massachusetts!
Very true but despite all of the injuries, he still made the Top 100 team of all-time & is 100% a first ballot Pro Football Hall-Of-Famer! When I think about his career, getting cut short and having the stats to make the Hall of Fame, it reminds me about another player who did make the Hall of Fame, but had his career cut short just like that: Terrell Davis!
Great answer. I think if you’re starting an all-time team, you’d be hard pressed to argue with taking Bo as your number 1 RB. You could go Payton, Brown, Sayers, or Sanders, but Bo was almost unquestionably the best overall athlete out of all of them. Amazing player and the world was robbed due to his injuries.
I think about this one a lot. If Malcolm Mitchell's knees stay in tact and he continues on his rookie year trajectory, the Patriots likely never bring in Josh Gordon or Antonio Brown, never draft N'Keal Harry, and never trade for Mo Sanu. He could have saved us from a lot of stress.
he was a good player and a great kid. i mean damn, that was his rookie season and he came up big in the most important moments. he improved so much over the course of the season too. clearly he’d earned brady bill’s trust by the end of the season.
it is absolutely wild to think about what could’ve been had he stayed healthy and had a normal career. who knows, brady might even still be playing for the pats!
Red Sox: Either Normar Garciaparra or Dustin Pedroia
Celtics: Reggie Lewis
Bruins: Bobby Orr
Patriots: Gronk
Honorable mention: Bo Jackson
Edit: I chose Bo Jackson because I wanted him to have a successful NFL and MLB. Yes he never played for Boston but still
It might not have mattered, Brady probably would have taken over anyway, but I can see why a bills fan would think that way and it’s an interesting take on the question
And even if Brady didn’t take over, Bledsoe was still one of the top QBs in the league. Patriots wouldn’t have been the same dynasty, but I think they would still win at least one.
Healthy Tom throughout his career probably winds up with 9 rings. The ankle in 07, obviously the knee in 08, and finger/hand/knee/shoulder injuries in 11, 12, 15, and 17 held him back—we’ll just never know exactly how much.
I love luck. But injuries aside how many players have just said fuck it, I don't want to be an example of playing past my prime and just called it. Luck was a consistent qb that deserves respect. Left before he was forced to leave. Nothing but respect.
Roosevelt colvin would be an interesting one. He likely bridges the LBs from mcginest to Mayo. Adalius Thomas maybe never comes here and that drama never plays out.
Any 25-40 yr old drunk at his home town bar who claims “i woulda gone pro if i didnt mess my knee up” once a week. Thats whos career id restart. Let you get a fresh start in hs again and prove you are great and can be pro.
What's crazy is if Mayo stays healthy, what happens to Hightower? I mean we all love Hightower as Pats fans but if Mayo is anchoring the middle and his body doesn't fall apart, wonder if Hightower leaves after 2015 like some predicted at the time. And all the Pats fans I knew IRL wanted him cut after 2013 because he was too slow and felt he was a bust. I love both as players obviously. But it's an interesting thing to think about.
It sure is I could tell you this in my opinion if Mayo stayed healthy he’d definitely keep the MLB position. Hightower at 6’4 260 I feel would have been better as an outside LB. Not too many MLB play at 260, he was more of a thumper stuffing runners in the hole.
Aaron Rodgers.
Even on his injured years he was usually a beast, but he was noticeably not a top dog whenever something broke or tore. He played through a lot.
I’d be curious to see what happens if we restart Justin Fields, but have Andy Dalton start the whole season instead of rushing Fields in so early. In particular, I would not have him play against Myles Garrett in his first start. Maybe the same outcome happens, but you’ve gotta figure those first few games where his OL was not helping him whatsoever contributed to his inability to consistently throw the ball when it’s open
Belichick becomes a Dick LeBeau/Wade Phillips like coach, floating to whoever needs him because of his defensive acumen. And Brady is prob a camp body and maybe gets a start or two for one of the sucky teams in the league who are out of options. Peyton Manning wins like 10 Super Bowls or some crazy shit like that because of no Bill/Tom
To be fair, thats probably the smartest thing ive ever heard a bills fan say
I was confused by the brilliance of the reply. I started wondering if I forgot about an injury Drew suffered while playing for Buffalo, and then I sat and wondered why a Bills fans would want Drew healthy. Then it hit me like Mo Lewis.
It was a fantastic response
He even went to go play for the Bills.
“Watch me smash this table….”
Bills Mafia are really a fanbase of idiots, especially when you see all the dumb shit they do that makes the majority of other teams’ fans, including the most fanatical & rowdy ones in PatsNation look like calm, cool, and collective bunch of respectful & intelligent individuals ever!
Never get hurt … invincible Mike Vick would be fun
My answer is Tom Brady. We deserve that 08 ring.
Might have even gotten the '07 one
Yeah with that ankle injury he hide
Maybe they take it. I’m not sure. They fell a long way between 16-0 in 07 and “I can’t get these guys to play the way I need to” in 09. They certainly make the playoffs with Brady and maybe they go all the way, but there were some cracks forming.
They were 11-5 with Matt Cassel, Brady certainly would have gotten 3-4 more wins. Brady would feel like he had something to prove in after losing the perfect season. If Brady is healthy and playing in ‘08 I’m extremely confident they’d get to the Super Bowl again and likely win.
The 5 games they lost were Miami, San Diego, Pittsburgh, the Jets and Indy. I think Tom definitely wins the Indy game. I'll give you the Jets game too, though Cassel played well and wasn't close to why they lost. Miami, San Diego and Pittsburgh are tougher sells. Maybe Pittsburgh since Brady owned them from day one. But that was the best Steelers team we've seen yet (post Roethlisberger being drafted, I mean). The Dolphins and Chargers, the way those games went, Brady wouldn't have made a ton of difference. They weren't ready to go. So that's 13-3, maybe 14-2. They're likely the 1 seed, they probably have a great shot at making it back. I just think people assume the 2008 team was primed to play like the 2007 team, and I don't think that's the case.
Or Gronk and we get 2011 and maybe 2012
If Gronk doesn’t get his foot/ ankle fucked up by Patriot killer Bernard Pollard (went very low on TB12’s knee/ leg, causing that awful injury in the form of the torn ACL season-ending catastrophe in Week 1 of the 2008 regular season, then in week 17 of 2009 w/ Wes Welker’s torn ACL, even though the turf influenced that in addition to Pollard being right there, losing Wes in the regular season finale which made it easy to be proud1 & done that year against the ravens), we win the Super Bowl easily going away, and if Gronk stays healthy in 2012/2013 like he did in 2014, they’d likely get by the Ravens/ Broncos in those 2 tough back-to-back AFC Championship losses, and shit would be different, perhaps even more Trophies & rings for the mantle @ 1 Patriots Place in Foxboro, Massachusetts!
Biggest tragedy was not getting a full ride of Brady and Moss
Gronk for sure, dude would’ve ended his career with untouchable stats
It’s crazy how his stats still match up to Kelces and dude missed like 3 seasons.
Fr, and most of the time he played he still had lingering injuries
And he’s younger and already retired twice
Probably would have left New England much sooner though. Iron man Gronk would fetch a titanic sized contract.
It's about winning and he paired with Bradey were a terrible combination. They'd have run out of appendages for rings.
Or draft picks
Think about how many we could trade down for!!!
Larry Bird.
Len Bias
Does a drug OD count as an injury?
I’ll allow it.
Reggie Lewis
OMG!! If only he never touches drugs!
Bobby Orr
So injury includes bad agent now too?
Gronk for sure, dude would’ve ended his career with untouchable stats
Very true but despite all of the injuries, he still made the Top 100 team of all-time & is 100% a first ballot Pro Football Hall-Of-Famer! When I think about his career, getting cut short and having the stats to make the Hall of Fame, it reminds me about another player who did make the Hall of Fame, but had his career cut short just like that: Terrell Davis!
That response made me chuckle for sure. Good answer from a Bills fan.
That Bills answer is actually clever as hell.
Can you explain?
Brady got his first start after a Bledsoe injury and kept the job
Brady was like 34-3 against the bills at the end of career.
Bo Jackson
This is the only answer.
Maybe marcus dupree
For me it's actually Fred Lynn, but Bo's career cut short too soon.
Great answer. I think if you’re starting an all-time team, you’d be hard pressed to argue with taking Bo as your number 1 RB. You could go Payton, Brown, Sayers, or Sanders, but Bo was almost unquestionably the best overall athlete out of all of them. Amazing player and the world was robbed due to his injuries.
Only if he plays football full time.
Brady 😈
This is a hilariously self aware response lmao
Probably not a popular answer on here but…Malcolm Mitchell. That kid was awesome and without him the Pats don’t win the 2016 super bowl.
I think about this one a lot. If Malcolm Mitchell's knees stay in tact and he continues on his rookie year trajectory, the Patriots likely never bring in Josh Gordon or Antonio Brown, never draft N'Keal Harry, and never trade for Mo Sanu. He could have saved us from a lot of stress.
he was a good player and a great kid. i mean damn, that was his rookie season and he came up big in the most important moments. he improved so much over the course of the season too. clearly he’d earned brady bill’s trust by the end of the season. it is absolutely wild to think about what could’ve been had he stayed healthy and had a normal career. who knows, brady might even still be playing for the pats!
Red Sox: Either Normar Garciaparra or Dustin Pedroia Celtics: Reggie Lewis Bruins: Bobby Orr Patriots: Gronk Honorable mention: Bo Jackson Edit: I chose Bo Jackson because I wanted him to have a successful NFL and MLB. Yes he never played for Boston but still
I think people forget how fucking incredible Nomar was. His stats were just bonkers in terms of production
Fuck Manny Machado
Honorable mention to the guy no one thinks of Boston when thinking about Bo Jackson. Could not honor someone who deserves it?
No it’s just I wish Bo never got injured
It might not have mattered, Brady probably would have taken over anyway, but I can see why a bills fan would think that way and it’s an interesting take on the question
And even if Brady didn’t take over, Bledsoe was still one of the top QBs in the league. Patriots wouldn’t have been the same dynasty, but I think they would still win at least one.
Ngl. He’s a genius, he changes the entire NFL with that one.
Healthy Tom throughout his career probably winds up with 9 rings. The ankle in 07, obviously the knee in 08, and finger/hand/knee/shoulder injuries in 11, 12, 15, and 17 held him back—we’ll just never know exactly how much.
Gronk.
They'd still be losers
Tell em why your mad son
I wanna see what crazy shit a fully healthy bill Walton would do
A lot of great answers here. I’m going to add Ken Griffey Jr. and Tony Conilgliaro.
Id probably say rg3 tbh
I love luck. But injuries aside how many players have just said fuck it, I don't want to be an example of playing past my prime and just called it. Luck was a consistent qb that deserves respect. Left before he was forced to leave. Nothing but respect.
Roosevelt colvin would be an interesting one. He likely bridges the LBs from mcginest to Mayo. Adalius Thomas maybe never comes here and that drama never plays out.
Bo Jackson
Any 25-40 yr old drunk at his home town bar who claims “i woulda gone pro if i didnt mess my knee up” once a week. Thats whos career id restart. Let you get a fresh start in hs again and prove you are great and can be pro.
>Bill's Fans Bill who?
Don Mattingly
And you wouldn’t say the same thing in their shoes?
Neither franchise would have superbowls
Chris Benoit. Without all of the head trauma who knows
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So Brady's career starts in 2002 and not 2001? Brady was already the guy that Bill wanted in 2001.
I’d say for us good ol coach Mayo if he wasn’t so injury prone I’d say he’d be one of NE best middle linebacker.
What's crazy is if Mayo stays healthy, what happens to Hightower? I mean we all love Hightower as Pats fans but if Mayo is anchoring the middle and his body doesn't fall apart, wonder if Hightower leaves after 2015 like some predicted at the time. And all the Pats fans I knew IRL wanted him cut after 2013 because he was too slow and felt he was a bust. I love both as players obviously. But it's an interesting thing to think about.
It sure is I could tell you this in my opinion if Mayo stayed healthy he’d definitely keep the MLB position. Hightower at 6’4 260 I feel would have been better as an outside LB. Not too many MLB play at 260, he was more of a thumper stuffing runners in the hole.
D Rose and it's not even close
They act like that would have gave them superbowl chances, bills sucked and forever will always suck
Never really thought of Buffalo as much of a chess playing city.
They still wouldn't have won a Superbowl.
in my opinion, I think they still would've won 2-3 of those first sb's. however, 2007 and the last three does not happen
hahahaa thats a pretty good answer
That’s actually pretty funny
Wide left now?
What does Alex Smith not getting hurt change? Do we still have Mahomes?
Adrian Peterson. That season he lost, he was about to go nuclear.
I mean that's actually pretty clever.
i mean how are you gonna answer that question without changing the past. it's a great answer by him
Never injured? Dan Marino. Already one of the most prolific and accurate passers of all time able to run and move? Yeah, that would have been fun.
RG3 would be running for his 10th straight Superbowl win.
brady so he doesn't get hurt in 08
Antonio Brown
D-Rose and Grant Hill
Bo Jackson, Gayle Sayers, Mark Prior & Kerry Wood
Do mental injuries count? Because a Gronk Hernandez double threat for a decade puts a funny feeling in me, and I don't think it's the gun shot
Aaron Rodgers. Even on his injured years he was usually a beast, but he was noticeably not a top dog whenever something broke or tore. He played through a lot.
I’d be curious to see what happens if we restart Justin Fields, but have Andy Dalton start the whole season instead of rushing Fields in so early. In particular, I would not have him play against Myles Garrett in his first start. Maybe the same outcome happens, but you’ve gotta figure those first few games where his OL was not helping him whatsoever contributed to his inability to consistently throw the ball when it’s open
Sterling Sharpe
Huh. In that timeline Tom Brady and Bill Belichick win titles in… Arizona? Somewhere.
I mean….realistically, Bill gets fired and is never a head coach again (failed twice). Brady goes somewhere else and may or may not be given a chance.
Belichick becomes a Dick LeBeau/Wade Phillips like coach, floating to whoever needs him because of his defensive acumen. And Brady is prob a camp body and maybe gets a start or two for one of the sucky teams in the league who are out of options. Peyton Manning wins like 10 Super Bowls or some crazy shit like that because of no Bill/Tom
More like a brain injury but my answer is Aaron Hernandez.