non-binary people sometimes choose words that are not normally names as names, sometimes common nouns. in this case, the two people are named Tooth and Nail.
French people say “Sacre Bleu” as an excited expression like “omg”
My guess is that they’re making fun of the fact that nonbinary people often choose names that don’t conform to gender but end up just being normal nouns. For example, I had a friend who named themselves Crow.
To be honest french people never use Sacrebleu when they talk; we use it very very rarely as a joke when we impersonate someone trying to speak french, just like people do online. Never heard a real sacrebleu in my lifetime, and it's starting to be long and i met a lot of people :p
Definitely outdated in France nowadays. Could it be that "Sacrebleu" is still a french- canadian thing? Or is Agatha Christie's Hercule Poirot all to blame for making it popular in the anglophone part of the world?
It is for sure not a French-Canadian thing. They use it ironically as well.
French-Canadian swears are mostly sacred items or words from the Catholic faith and it’s awesome. Truly one of life’s great pleasures.
Quebec swearing is really just naming things in the church in an annoyed tone, but are actually called “sacres” and often put together in short succession.
Tabarnak (tabernacle, which is the box that holds the eucharist, which is the bread and wine given out at communion)
Câlice (chalice from which the wine is served)
Esti (host, the sacramental bread / body of Christ)
*Tabarnak de câlice d’esti* was a phrase often said by my father growing up (my paternal grandmother is originally from Quebec). They can generally be put in any order and it’s a bit of a game stringing them together.
Crisse de calisse de merde, tabarnak!
Context could be either, “I stubbed my toe” or “Putin is invading through Alaska.” Doesn’t matter, it’s about how you say it.
For the mono-English speakers- the actual profanity is Sacre Dieu (pronounced "de-ooh") and rhymes with bleu.
So it's about akin to "Son of a biscuit!" or "Go fork yourself."
I haven't read/watched enough Poirot to have read/heard him use the phrase, but I remember Blacque Jacque Shellacque from Looney Tunes using it frequently.
So I thought the same thing about “mamma mia” about Italians. Then I was in Rome outside a restaurant and two bombshell blondes walked by. The host/advertising guy on the street tried to talk to them to get them in the restaurant. They declined, and as he watched them walk away he uttered the tiniest “mamma mia” under his breath before going back to bussing tables.
Oh I hope you did not lose a limb or call her a chou-fleur !
A chou is either a cabbage or a choux pastry ball/cream puff.
There's also a theory that "mon chou" came from the verb "choyer", (that you pronounce chou-ah-yeah), which means "to pamper". Just like chéri comes from "chérir" (to cherish).
Stereotypically, prostitutes and super gay men will call everyone "mon chou". So it became used more and more sarcastically over the last decades. (It's still perfectly acceptable when you're talking to a kid, but I prefer more ridiculous pet names for them)
You can double down, and call someone a chouchou (one's favorite, used as an endearment term or to call someone's teacher's pet, for example), say that someone is "trop chou" (too cute)... There's also a female form, "choute" or 'chouchoute".
A chou-fleur removes the polysemy of the word chou, and is unambiguously a cauliflower.
That's because it is just an old timey curse word. It would be like if someone was rolling around saying "What in tarnation?" All the time. We understand what they mean thanks to Yosemite Sam but no one talks that way in real life.
Ouais, il faudrait que ça soit remplacé par "le sang de ses os", mais vu qu'apparemment aucun américain n'a rencontré de français depuis 1776, ça risque pas d'arriver
I have a trans friend, he chose a name that's pretty "typical" of trans men and its VERY similar to crow lol
I said wtf is it with people choosing animals as their name, they never call themselves Steve or Bob!
He just laughed and said, it's weird but it IS a bit of a meme. But he likes his name and it is better than simply crow. He's happy, he likes it and it's not a "tragedeigh" so all power to him.
Sacré dieu. If I'm not mistaken. Sacré Bleu is just a way around the blasphemy. In my studies in highschool I was told it meant God damnit! "Sacré dieu," c'est un petit cas de blasphème. It's been since Covid since I've studied though. Academia at a college level drained everything out of me.
French people used to say this in the XIXth may be earlier...
Even my grand parents haven't heard "Sacrebleu" in their lifetime...
I don't remember a book saying it either... May be Rabelais? La Fontaine?
I'm not so much into etymology, but I think it means "Fuck the king" or "May the king be dead"...
Some non-binary people choose a new name when they come out as NB. These names may be typical names that happen to work for men or women, they may be a random reference that is meaningful to the person, or they may reference a distinguishing feature of them.
Anyway, if the room had three non-binary people who happened to be named Sock, Ray, and Blue, they would turn their heads on hearing “Sacre Bleu!”
> they may be a random reference that is meaningful to the person
Well, looks like if I become non binary my name is changing to Long live the Herrscher of Sentience!
I love this!
Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, are all great sounding names to me! Mercury, Neptune, and Pluto, I could see but I wouldn't pick for myself. Uranus I wouldn't understand but okay.
Some others celestial names I like:
Europa, Ganymede and Callisto
Rhea
Ceres
Really cool.
I think Callisto is my favorite out for these right now. I haven't thought about gender with respect to the gods these were named after, I could see that being a consideration as well but not necessarily.
And his rival is Blue.
Seriously, any non-cis person that needs a name, there is probably no better source than Pokémon. So many awesome names that one wouldn't usually think about.
Aside from Crystal, Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Diamond, Scarlett, Violet, and I guess Pearl, all of them aren't gendered names being used as actual names for main characters.
Sorce: I knew a family who used the first 5 names for the girls they had, I went to school with a Scarlett and Violet (both girls), and I only know Pearl from Spongebob so it could be a girl name.
The names of the main characters from those games aren't the names of the games. The main characters in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald are May and Brendan, the main characters of Diamond and Pearl are Dawn and Lucas and the main characters in Scarlet and Violet are Juliana and Florian. I'm pretty sure the main characters of the games haven't been named after the games since Red, Blue, Green, Firered and Leafgreen.
Those names were used in the mangas. Ethan was Gold, Kris/Lyra was Crystal, Brendan was Ruby, May was Sapphire, Lucas was Diamond, Dawn was Platinum, Berry was Pearl, Hilbert was Black, Hilda was White, Calem was X, Serena was Y (short for Yvonne), Elio was Sun, and Selene was Moon. Even Nate and Rosa from Black 2 and White 2 were renamed to Blake and Whitley in the Manga, with the Japanese names being something like Lack-Two and Whi-Two. The only two protagonists that break this tradition are Henry Sword (Victor) and Casey Shield (Gloria), who decided to have the game name as a last name instead of a first name.
There’s a running joke that started in the non-binary community about how some will seemingly just name themselves random words (i.e. Moss). The french expression “sacre bleu” might sound like “sock ray blue” to an English speaker who’s not familiar with the french phrase. So when a french person says “sacre bleu,” the three n.b. people named Sock, Ray, and Blue think that they’re being addressed.
I know someone who changed their name non-binary name 3 times in one year and would get really mad if someone used the wrong one. Even if the person was genuinely trying use the right one, but forgot.
Because in middle school I really liked the short animation "Welcome to Hell" and the MC's name is Sock, also I'm Korean and it sounds like Seok so like it checked out
There’s a semi true stereotype that non-binary people will name themselves after nouns. There’s also a French word that sounds like sock, ray, blue. The joke is that the nonbinary people are named sock, ray, and blue and are responding to the French words as if they were their names.
Odds are traditional names will carry some inherent gendered connotations so to chose something with the least likely hood of being gendered Enbys may choose some thing from outta left field. Also they just may like the word. I say more power to them!
It's a common joke that non-binary people, with a limited range of non-gendered names, instead pick item names. Hence "Sock, Ray, Blue." I personally know four non-binary people named Ray, Salsa, Siege, and Rocket, whose previous name was Worm.
Ya know, on a long enough timeline, being non-binary is going to be as innocuous as being straight. I wonder what these folks are going to base their entire personality on once we get to that point.
Person who got into a fight with two non-binary people: I’m fighting tooth and nail over here!
Damn that's a good one, thanks for the laugh mate!
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Peter explain the joke :(
non-binary people sometimes choose words that are not normally names as names, sometimes common nouns. in this case, the two people are named Tooth and Nail.
Thanks, Peter!
Yup, nb person at work named themselves Turnip
Based
I'm NB and it took me a moment lmao...named myself Nix
Homie I named myself East
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Fair
This is such a vibe
I saw some TikTok post where they had an entire list of “felony core” names… some people are nuts
ok but what were the names we love a good felon
Names like Arson or just Felony/Felon are extremely common!
haha like phelonie. I've met a couple dogs named Felon 😭 they were all so sweet though it was. like the chihuahua we fostered named Butcher. 😅
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tbh i didn't understand the original meme until i saw an explanation. after that i just realized this joke was talking about the same thing.
If you don’t have enby friends, or are in online trans circles in general, then you’re part of the 90% that would not get the joke. Don’t worry!
French people say “Sacre Bleu” as an excited expression like “omg” My guess is that they’re making fun of the fact that nonbinary people often choose names that don’t conform to gender but end up just being normal nouns. For example, I had a friend who named themselves Crow.
To be honest french people never use Sacrebleu when they talk; we use it very very rarely as a joke when we impersonate someone trying to speak french, just like people do online. Never heard a real sacrebleu in my lifetime, and it's starting to be long and i met a lot of people :p
For sure - definitely lost a little detail in echange for brevity!
Well merde.
Definitely outdated in France nowadays. Could it be that "Sacrebleu" is still a french- canadian thing? Or is Agatha Christie's Hercule Poirot all to blame for making it popular in the anglophone part of the world?
It is for sure not a French-Canadian thing. They use it ironically as well. French-Canadian swears are mostly sacred items or words from the Catholic faith and it’s awesome. Truly one of life’s great pleasures.
Care to share some? I'm curious now.
tabernacle is one of the one I know, shortened to tabarnak, equivalent to "fuck"
Thank you! The exchange student I had 20 years ago used that and I never knew where it came from
Well, now you know he was trying to fuck you.
Well that too, but he was also a video game playing 16 year old
Quebec swearing is really just naming things in the church in an annoyed tone, but are actually called “sacres” and often put together in short succession. Tabarnak (tabernacle, which is the box that holds the eucharist, which is the bread and wine given out at communion) Câlice (chalice from which the wine is served) Esti (host, the sacramental bread / body of Christ) *Tabarnak de câlice d’esti* was a phrase often said by my father growing up (my paternal grandmother is originally from Quebec). They can generally be put in any order and it’s a bit of a game stringing them together.
Bon Cop Bad Cop has the best summary of QC swearing: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUGW0jszPzo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUGW0jszPzo)
This is my quebecian Overwatch friends’ favorite word XD
Now I'm imagining a Canadian yelling out "Pope's ballsack!" as they stub their toe. Then immediately apologize for the disturbance.
GREAT VATICAN COCKS!
I know french Canadians use the word "tabarnak" which comes from the word "tabernacle" which is the box where the consecrated communion bread is kept.
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Is taking the Eucharist deicannibalism?
If you soak a Eucharist in wine do you have a whole Jesus?
Not quite. Cracker=flesh & wine=blood, so therefore cracker+wine= [boneless Jesus](https://reddit.com/r/shitposting/s/JWAPLJDtNQ).
Crisse de calisse de merde, tabarnak! Context could be either, “I stubbed my toe” or “Putin is invading through Alaska.” Doesn’t matter, it’s about how you say it.
calice(chalice) pronounced khalees. someone else already pointed out tabernak, put them together, esti de calice de tabernak‼️‼️
I forgot esti. Damn. I’m out of practice
Ta guele salope, je men (fiche/fou) Shut your mouth slut, I dont care. The difference between fiche and fou seems to be regional.
Sacre bleu is also about Catholicism. You're about to take the Lord's name in vain, but you say a word that sounds like it at the last minute.
For the mono-English speakers- the actual profanity is Sacre Dieu (pronounced "de-ooh") and rhymes with bleu. So it's about akin to "Son of a biscuit!" or "Go fork yourself."
Gets cut off in Toronto TRANSUBSTANTIATION
I haven't read/watched enough Poirot to have read/heard him use the phrase, but I remember Blacque Jacque Shellacque from Looney Tunes using it frequently.
Nope, here in Canada we're the same.
French Canadien here. The only time I ever hear Sacre-bleu is when Americans are trying to imitate what french would sound like.
I think modern blame falls on Lumière from Beauty and the Beast exclaiming *Sacrebleu! Invaders!*
"...in my lifetime, and it's starting to be long" is a phrase I'll be thinking about often.
So I thought the same thing about “mamma mia” about Italians. Then I was in Rome outside a restaurant and two bombshell blondes walked by. The host/advertising guy on the street tried to talk to them to get them in the restaurant. They declined, and as he watched them walk away he uttered the tiniest “mamma mia” under his breath before going back to bussing tables.
I’d imagine it’s a similar situation to dear god.
There's more.
No...
It contains a bucket!
Dear god...
Do you guys actually say “mon petit chou-fleur” or was that just something the spy from TF2 said
Mon chou is used, especially sarcastically. Mon chou-fleur, no lol, or marginally. that's cauliflower.
Mon petit Chou….
Oui ma bibiche en sucre ?
Ok so what’s a chou vs a chou-fluer? I apologize for my delay I was courting a sultan’s daughter (it did not end well)
Oh I hope you did not lose a limb or call her a chou-fleur ! A chou is either a cabbage or a choux pastry ball/cream puff. There's also a theory that "mon chou" came from the verb "choyer", (that you pronounce chou-ah-yeah), which means "to pamper". Just like chéri comes from "chérir" (to cherish). Stereotypically, prostitutes and super gay men will call everyone "mon chou". So it became used more and more sarcastically over the last decades. (It's still perfectly acceptable when you're talking to a kid, but I prefer more ridiculous pet names for them) You can double down, and call someone a chouchou (one's favorite, used as an endearment term or to call someone's teacher's pet, for example), say that someone is "trop chou" (too cute)... There's also a female form, "choute" or 'chouchoute". A chou-fleur removes the polysemy of the word chou, and is unambiguously a cauliflower.
So essentially chou = ‘puff’ kinda?
Also I did lose a limb in a manner of speaking
What about Oooh la la?
I use it everyday. But in front of a mess, not in front of something sexy lol.
How about “merci beaucoup”
Everyone I know (including myself) who uses it, only uses it sarcastically.
“Starting to be long” is a funny way of saying “I’m getting old” 😂 somehow seems less existential.
That's because it is just an old timey curse word. It would be like if someone was rolling around saying "What in tarnation?" All the time. We understand what they mean thanks to Yosemite Sam but no one talks that way in real life.
Me, who says "what in tarnation" on the weekly...
on the other hand you'll probably use it every day if you're a pirate
Ouais, il faudrait que ça soit remplacé par "le sang de ses os", mais vu qu'apparemment aucun américain n'a rencontré de français depuis 1776, ça risque pas d'arriver
So it’s mostly an entertainment thing where it’s used in movies tv shows and what not.
It's because these days, most French people use the Allahu Akbar variant
I had a friend named Toast.
Met a Bagel with a lisp last year
Had a friend called biscuits. He had MASSIVE nipples
I had a friend named arson
I hope they called him bread before he popped out.
*them
I have a trans friend, he chose a name that's pretty "typical" of trans men and its VERY similar to crow lol I said wtf is it with people choosing animals as their name, they never call themselves Steve or Bob! He just laughed and said, it's weird but it IS a bit of a meme. But he likes his name and it is better than simply crow. He's happy, he likes it and it's not a "tragedeigh" so all power to him.
bluds name is nevermore
Corvo
Bingo
Hawk? Captain Falcon?
Raven, surely.
To follow your train of thought here, you think a first name shared over the internet is dangerous to your or your friend’s privacy?
Thats no tr- \*Remembers i named myself Winter\*
Winter is a dope name. Cool choice!
Honestly Crow’s not the most out there name for a person. Sock on the other hand
Short for Socrates.
Eh, Crow’s not too bad. It’s a short and not silly bird name. Jackdaw on the other hand would be a peculiar name
Edward Kenway would beg the differ
I wonder what the french thinks of using normal nouns for nonbinary names
It's a nation of 65 million people so I'm guessing views will vary.
I know the Japanese do it with English. I follow this Japanese lady on Instagram who has a pet owl named Shoulder.
You’re friends with (deceased) Swiss-French modernist architect Le Corbusier?
> I had a friend who named themselves Crow. Uldren needs to chill
>French people say “Sacre Bleu” as an excited expression like “omg” They really don't.
Sacré dieu. If I'm not mistaken. Sacré Bleu is just a way around the blasphemy. In my studies in highschool I was told it meant God damnit! "Sacré dieu," c'est un petit cas de blasphème. It's been since Covid since I've studied though. Academia at a college level drained everything out of me.
With this context I actually found it pretty funny lol
okay but crow is an absolute banger name
Crow is a badass name
We might have the same friend
French people used to say this in the XIXth may be earlier... Even my grand parents haven't heard "Sacrebleu" in their lifetime... I don't remember a book saying it either... May be Rabelais? La Fontaine? I'm not so much into etymology, but I think it means "Fuck the king" or "May the king be dead"...
Some non-binary people choose a new name when they come out as NB. These names may be typical names that happen to work for men or women, they may be a random reference that is meaningful to the person, or they may reference a distinguishing feature of them. Anyway, if the room had three non-binary people who happened to be named Sock, Ray, and Blue, they would turn their heads on hearing “Sacre Bleu!”
One nb at my job is self named “Enemy”. Like, you do you. But Enemy????
Worked with an NB who went from Allie to Gator. And when I realized why, I got a good chuckle
I once knew a woman, whose parents named her after a Greek god. Nemesis.
that name unironically goes hard tho
So does the god
That sounds like some edgy shit right there lol
that goes hard as fuck i can't even lie
> they may be a random reference that is meaningful to the person Well, looks like if I become non binary my name is changing to Long live the Herrscher of Sentience!
nonbinary people often pick funny or non-traditional names.
My nonbinary name would be Two
You two faced bitch! /s
vouch <- enby named after a planet
So true Uranus
Haha you said urine
Haha you said anus
vouch isn’t a planet!
I love this! Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, are all great sounding names to me! Mercury, Neptune, and Pluto, I could see but I wouldn't pick for myself. Uranus I wouldn't understand but okay. Some others celestial names I like: Europa, Ganymede and Callisto Rhea Ceres Really cool. I think Callisto is my favorite out for these right now. I haven't thought about gender with respect to the gods these were named after, I could see that being a consideration as well but not necessarily.
Aaaand new naming scheme for whatever I need to name next. Specifically moons and shit cause Ganymede goes hard.
Ganymede is pretty sick
Someone I know is changing their name to Naevius
I was gonna make fun of whoever chose the name blue, then I remembered when I was non-binary my chosen name was "red"
https://preview.redd.it/scxs5t4y65qb1.png?width=515&format=png&auto=webp&s=bbb0d46173e40c57c76b9498506f1cd1a6e6b7c5
This why Professor Oak starts the game asking if you're a boy or a girl.
I can't believe how much sense that makes. Too bad "I don't know" isn't an option, cause that would make it 10 times better.
Then it just changes all dialogue to be similar to what it is in “If Undertale Was Realistic” and everyone calls you “genderless child” or “giraffe”
And his rival is Blue. Seriously, any non-cis person that needs a name, there is probably no better source than Pokémon. So many awesome names that one wouldn't usually think about.
Pikachu
Lickylicky
Chandelure
Espurr
Lysanderoth
Aside from Crystal, Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Diamond, Scarlett, Violet, and I guess Pearl, all of them aren't gendered names being used as actual names for main characters. Sorce: I knew a family who used the first 5 names for the girls they had, I went to school with a Scarlett and Violet (both girls), and I only know Pearl from Spongebob so it could be a girl name.
The names of the main characters from those games aren't the names of the games. The main characters in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald are May and Brendan, the main characters of Diamond and Pearl are Dawn and Lucas and the main characters in Scarlet and Violet are Juliana and Florian. I'm pretty sure the main characters of the games haven't been named after the games since Red, Blue, Green, Firered and Leafgreen.
Those names were used in the mangas. Ethan was Gold, Kris/Lyra was Crystal, Brendan was Ruby, May was Sapphire, Lucas was Diamond, Dawn was Platinum, Berry was Pearl, Hilbert was Black, Hilda was White, Calem was X, Serena was Y (short for Yvonne), Elio was Sun, and Selene was Moon. Even Nate and Rosa from Black 2 and White 2 were renamed to Blake and Whitley in the Manga, with the Japanese names being something like Lack-Two and Whi-Two. The only two protagonists that break this tradition are Henry Sword (Victor) and Casey Shield (Gloria), who decided to have the game name as a last name instead of a first name.
Brb, legally changing my name to Primal Groudon EX. But in seriousness, so many characters have great and unique names. And then there's also Larry.
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“When I was nonbinary…” Is that something you were mistaken about? Did something change?
Idk man I just stopped being non-binary
You zoomers make me feel like im 80 yrs old
You mean you... RE-binaried?!?!?
that's an amazing way to say it lmfao
It’s not a phase mom!
Wait you were? How did you become binary?
Cybernetics got installed
Idk, I was just figuring things out and eventually settled, I'm the only person I know who stopped being non-binary tho so it feels weird
Gender is fluid 🤷♂️
He drank the gender fluid
I know an enby named Blue.
I know a Crimson
I know one named Violet
did you become non-non-binary?
Binary, mate. The word you looking for is binary.
There’s a running joke that started in the non-binary community about how some will seemingly just name themselves random words (i.e. Moss). The french expression “sacre bleu” might sound like “sock ray blue” to an English speaker who’s not familiar with the french phrase. So when a french person says “sacre bleu,” the three n.b. people named Sock, Ray, and Blue think that they’re being addressed.
I know someone who chose Ratchet as their new non-binary name. I wish I was joking.
Sounds like a children's cartoon character that's a raccoon who fixes cars
There's a game called ratchet and clank
Yeah the guy above you just made it up
yeah that’s what they were referencing
From a video game series too.
They could be a Sakura wars fan 😭
If they named themselves after the transformer that would be funny as hell
I knew someone who named themselves ”fish”
I know someone who changed their name non-binary name 3 times in one year and would get really mad if someone used the wrong one. Even if the person was genuinely trying use the right one, but forgot.
Elon Musk kid: "yes?"
she's not non-binary and her name's vivian
They meant the other three
oh oops lol
My name is Sock. I'd turn my head because my name is Sock
"Is that short for something? Sockrates?" But seriously, go by whatever you want to go by. People give themselves nicknames all the time anyway.
Sometimes my friends do call me Sockrates💀
I’m curious, why Sock?
Because in middle school I really liked the short animation "Welcome to Hell" and the MC's name is Sock, also I'm Korean and it sounds like Seok so like it checked out
Oh cool
I mean, Ray is a name.
Nonbinary people have a tendency to just choose a noun as their name. It just kinda happened.
I’ve known gender neutral people named both Blue and Socc(sock)
My stupid ass would not be nonbinary without calling myself "Throngler"
There’s a semi true stereotype that non-binary people will name themselves after nouns. There’s also a French word that sounds like sock, ray, blue. The joke is that the nonbinary people are named sock, ray, and blue and are responding to the French words as if they were their names.
Non-binary people choose goofy ass names lol
Why do they name themselves those things
Odds are traditional names will carry some inherent gendered connotations so to chose something with the least likely hood of being gendered Enbys may choose some thing from outta left field. Also they just may like the word. I say more power to them!
We Non-binary’s pick weird names usually we just pick a random object and say fuck it.
It's a common joke that non-binary people, with a limited range of non-gendered names, instead pick item names. Hence "Sock, Ray, Blue." I personally know four non-binary people named Ray, Salsa, Siege, and Rocket, whose previous name was Worm.
NBs pick weird names.
Ironically I know non-binary people with the names sock, ray, and blue Sooooo Guess this one isn't inaccurate?
Aq
Ya know, on a long enough timeline, being non-binary is going to be as innocuous as being straight. I wonder what these folks are going to base their entire personality on once we get to that point.
This is perfect