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Wajina_Sloth

Basically in Korea there were transcribers that would write everything down objectively, and even the king technically didnt have the authority to remove things from record. King Taejong fell off his horse, and someone wrote it down, he was embarrassed about it and demanded it be erased, so he wrote that down as well. So the king orders soldiers if I am not mistaken to go destroy documents about him falling off the horse, but the transcriptionists kept making copies and hiding it, while also writing about the kings attempt to erase the story of him falling off the horse. Now this king is literally only known for falling off a horse and trying to hide it. Edit: After digging in a bit, I couldnt find any verifiable source that mentions his attempt at destruction, only him ordering the scribe to redact him falling off the horse (and the scribe taking note of that). I assume the whole attempt at destruction is just an urban legend.


BTCMachineElf

The original Streisand Effect.


finditplz1

Taejong Effect


Shirtbro

MFW when everybody will laugh at me forever https://preview.redd.it/ulx7l96fshyc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5dbcacd69fe3355c5911b60b64d1f1b798e09ae1


Easy_Championship_14

why does he have cum on his face?


potassium_errday

Sorry. I just really like portraits of Korean kings


PhonesDad

A tribute to King Taejong's greatness


Melodic_Survey_4712

Someone cummed on his face probably


Shirtbro

The horse, and it was recorded.


kermit1001hp

https://preview.redd.it/or49e1rsziyc1.png?width=198&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a993c6fd914a42b2150ef1ba47f4d199de3d23be


wizardwacker

https://preview.redd.it/ain06v4yllyc1.jpeg?width=808&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7f6a8286c10fbed34d88ff53bde306c5e3d5ee1


AutoN8tion

Everyone clapped. What was the scribes name?


Glacial_Plains

J. Robert Oppenheimer


AutoN8tion

Now there's a classic reddit-[switcheroo](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1cispzk/prostitutes_at_the_nizhny_novgorod_fair_tsarist/l2fe5be/)


Shirtbro

It was the Jizzeon Dynasty


DontPostOn_r_gaming

“King Taejong took a facial from one of the server boys before sitting down for his official portrait. He told me not to draw the cum. I drew the cum.”


orreregion

Just in case you want an actual answer: it's just the wear and tear of age erasing spots of paint and revealing the color underneath. AKA they painted him on top of a block of cum :)


aeuphanismforcum

because he's classy and ready for his portrait


real_unreal_reality

It’s the new stop oil campaign. No more tomato soup on paintings. It’s the quick jerk and slap a wad on a face.


Impossible_Body6607

This isnt Taejong’s portrait. Its Jeong Mong Ju, a politician who was killed by King Taejong😇


Shirtbro

MFW when I'm killed by that horse guy


mashiro1496

Taejongs horse fall


Graxeltooth

Taejong, fallen from his steed. Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.


score-1

Taejong, his arms open


Bshow122

Scribe, his eyes open. Taejong, when the walls fell. Scribe, in winter.


xXxBongMayor420xXx

"King Taejong fell off his horse. 35 million perished"


thomstevens420

Widespread cannibalism reported


Robmart

Wrong country, you have to go west for that


Sano242

💀That’s several times the Korean population at the time...


ukstubbs

China got involved.


Flowchart83

If only we had this kind of journalistic integrity now. Major respect to those transcribers, their dedication to their work went above their own personal interests.


ColoRadBro69

https://fallofcivilizationspodcast.com/ This guy makes excellent long form podcasts about ancient history.  Talks a lot about the dynamic of historians writing the record, how it's often mostly true but the king's version of events, and at times was just outright propaganda. 


Flowchart83

Thanks, found and added it in Spotify. I've got 24 hours left of night shifts for this weekend that I need to fill, so much appreciated.


ColoRadBro69

The one about Byzantine was a great use of 4 hours!  I listened over several drives and couldn't wait to hear more.  Cheers friend.  Edit: the Roman empire continued for a thousand years after the fall of Rome.  They had flame throwers in their Navy and a 50 mile chain they could raise and lower to prevent attacks from the water.  Their final end came about with help from one of the largest cannons ever built.


ImACrackHead_UwU

Ooh thank you! I love learning about history and this heads up is great. I appreciate it :3


Khelthuzaad

ohh I bet it told about Historia Arcana by Procopius :)) that one is to be taken with lots of grains of salt,its one of the most modern versions of histories written with political agendas.


JinFuu

Sounds like someone is on their way to being a Byzaboo. Good choice!


queetuiree

Charlemagne is petty Western fake emperor! Moscow is the Rome #3!


EmperorBamboozler

The fall of Carthage is a fucking banger. That is such a fascinating city and there is a lot we will never know because its fall was so complete that there really wasn't anything left to find. From what we know it was a breathtaking city that was insanely wealthy and powerful. Even the writings we have from Romans who vehemently hated Carthage and wanted it snuffed out comment on how grand and well maintained the city was. To walk the streets it would look like the average citizen is nearly as wealthy as the richest Roman, though that had to do largely with Carthage being the center of a massive trade empire so goods like dyes and spices were far cheaper there than most places. The fall of Carthage is a tragic story really, one of those turning points in history that spawns a billion "what if" questions. The narrator is good too and they hire a ton of voice actors and musicians playing traditional instruments.


Substantial_Army_639

This podcast got me through some really long shifts also highly recommend.


Femboi_Hooterz

Highly recommend Behind the Bastards and Lions led by Donkeys podcasts as well for history binging


Lostboxoangst

From what I remember a lot of what we know about Nero was written by his political enemies after his death.


MisterScrod1964

A lot of what we think we know about the pagan Roman Empire was written by Christian propagandists.


JinFuu

In the 800s there was a Byzantine Empire named Michael III, with the lovely nickname the Drunkard, and he was followed by Basil I, founder of a new dynasty and helped kickstart the Macedonian Renaissance in the Empire. Mike was always viewed as a shit emperor, and Basil was amazing. Hundreds of years later we're just getting around to the "We think Mike may not have been *that* bad, and while Basil was good, he was definitely hyped up by the Historians writing stuff that wanted to be on his family's good side. Oh and we're 99% sure that Leon VI, who was Basil's heir was actually Michael's kid."


Wild_Marker

> how it's often mostly true but the king's version of events Or some other noble. 99% of history happened to the peasants but nobody wrote much about them.


Sharp_Science896

Oh that sounds fantastic. Immediately adding that to my Spotify podcast Playlist. Need something new to listen to while driving to work. Thanks so much.


Gabe_b

Love this guy. I fall asleep to his podcasts all the time. He has the perfect calm middle class English guy voice


Lamplorde

Comments like this are hilarious to me. Because, if you think about it, people post even more awkward shit on social media nowadays *themselves*. I wonder if future civilizations will look back at us and go "Wow, they had such journalistic integrity. To post clips of themselves doing such absolutely embarrassing things. They were truly a civilization of scholars, to document their lives in such a way so future generations could study them."


Ramongsh

There are plenty of journalists and media with integrity out there.


Status_Belt1284

Then why not do ir yourself if you make it sound that easy?


Flowchart83

What do you think happened to Julian Assange?


Obamasdeadcook

Project Veritas and Assange are examples of why it’s pointless if the people themselves are against truth


robert_e__anus

"Project Veritas" and "truth" shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence unless the sentence is "Project Veritas is [diametrically opposed](https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Project_Veritas) to the truth."


Obamasdeadcook

They haven’t reported anything false in years I can’t say the same for MSM


robert_e__anus

They settled a case for lying about voter fraud just two months ago champ.


Obamasdeadcook

He didn’t… They used an informant giving partial information as evidence but they never lied the informant simply said “I only heard a fragment of the information” and that was enough for a lawsuit… **but the information was correct**


M1raclemile1

More lies from the resident troll. Why do you always lie?


Obamasdeadcook

Russian troll ☝️ Check his account


Opening_Persimmon_71

Everything they report turn out to be maliciously edited when shown with full context, they're hacks


Obamasdeadcook

lol no it wasn’t There was no edits and the whole conversation was show we like it always is He has more credibility than any MSM network 🤷‍♀️


M1raclemile1

Yes there was and you keep telling more lies. Why is that? Why do you support a rapist?


Obamasdeadcook

no one cares dude You’re at the bottom of the thread


Killer_Boi

Kinda like the cylinder guy


Wajina_Sloth

ah I remember the antics of u/Smart_Calendar1874


dokterkokter69

Medieval Korean cyber bullying.


Gr8rSherman8r

Medieval Korean scriber bullying.


PolemicFox

He is known for a lot of things in Korea. While the story with the horse is true it is largely well known specifically because he was recognized for many large achievements. Having something so trivial become part of his legacy as well is pretty funny.


GyroZeppeliFucker

Eat shit asshole! Fall of your horse!


chapati_chawal_naan

Lmao


Eljamin14

Reminds me of Guardian Tales, when that Ice Witch character tells Lan, the scrivoner's scriptorium not to write down certain information, yet Lan does write on being told to not write it down.


jk583940

That might be parody for this, bc the developers are from korea, i think


thatbrownkid19

Based journalists. What a lost art


metropolisapocalypse

Court reporters in modern US courts have the same rules!!You can tell when a lawyer is new or has been watching too much TV drama when they keep saying "strike that," the transcripts crack me up. 😭


AlphaDemonKC

Emperor falls of horse: "No one record that!" Scribe: writes down "The emperor fell off a horse and then told us not to record it" Emperor: "I mean it! Don't record it!" Scribe: writes down "He says he means it" Two Weeks later Scribe: "It has been two weeks since the Emperor fell off the horse and told us not to record the event. We have overheard the plans to have soldiers come and destroy the texts, but we have prepared and made copies. We have scattered them far and wide. History shall remember the day the emperor fell off a horse."


SpookyAndykins

I’d watch a film about this. Especially if Jack Black was the king.


Honest_Entertainer_3

https://preview.redd.it/rvuwt2jgugyc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c8b12e2667f048b07418f95b18691fbd7c251bd This is the Korea king and this is the transcribers


Ghede

You literally just repeated OP's meme, but with a different version of the same meme.


Shirtbro

https://preview.redd.it/yvv6ga4mshyc1.png?width=1238&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21ab3a7fc7c0323b0e9e7479d3667aae1f539cd0


BackflipsAway

I was low key expecting this story to end with an execution or something, but it sounds like the scribe made it out just fine, good for hin


diamond420Venus

History lesson on if something cringe happens to you, toll with it. It's going to be worse if people know it bothered you.


DesignerAd2062

Stop typing stop typing


draugotO

Well, that's one way to know your history is accurately recordes


MiloPengNoIce

Yet his wiki article says nothing about it.


Wajina_Sloth

I think “its the only thing he is known for” was taken a little too literally by me, but its talked about and sourced on this wiki article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veritable_Records_of_the_Joseon_Dynasty#:~:text=For%20instance%2C%20King%20Taejong%20fell,words%20not%20to%20record%20it.


Coandco95

Not the hunting down the records and burning them/hiding them part. Can't find any reference to that. Pretty sure commenter made that shit up.


Few-Big-8481

It's been part of the story for a while. As to whether or not it's true, idk, but the records are online so if you read Korean you can verify for us.


amanko13

[That's some serious dedication.](https://i.gyazo.com/31dddb8d694351fecf7046ecec3e6c95.png)


Interesting-Dream863

Scribes were serious about their job there apparently


ImprovementPuzzled82

'Only' is a huge exaggeration lol, Taejong is one of the most well-known kings in here, Korea. I would say just under King Sejong who made the Korean letters


Elisevs

Unusually, now that you've explained it, it's MUCH funnier.


eliavhaganav

Ngl that was probably an even bigger mistake


Famous-Draft-1464

The dude must be spinning in his grave, now that even people across the world knows about his embarrassing blunder lol


EARTHB-24

🤔 interesting.


Attomuse1

Epic


theyearofexhaustion

1404 february 8. 親御弓矢, 馳馬射獐, 因馬仆而墜, 不傷。 顧左右曰: "勿令史官知之。 [https://digitalartarchive.siggraph.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/2016\_Park\_VisualHistorywithChosenDynastyAnnals.pdf](https://digitalartarchive.siggraph.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/2016_Park_VisualHistorywithChosenDynastyAnnals.pdf) it's a real thing.


ConstantineByzantium

He is also father of fricken SEJONG THE GREAT-GREATEST KOREAN MONARCH WHO EVER LIVED! HE INVENTED KOREAN ALPHABET ( HANGUL) ALL BY HIMSELF!


spiralbatross

*falls off horse* “nobody saw that” Scribe:


Aggravating_Eye2166

>King Taejong fell off his horse, and someone wrote it down, he was embarrassed about it and demanded it be erased, so he wrote that down as well. Well, considering his biography (helped his father in overthrowing Goryeo and assassinated his opponents), he could get embarrassed for faling of the horse.


Smil3Bro

The Scribesand effect


Moseo13

The Scribe's hand effect


Gwynoleth

Underrated comment.


Downvotesohoy

I think it's adequately rated.


CrabbyBlueberry

Post was 3 hours old when this comment was made. Timing is everything.


Smil3Bro

Yeah, it really didn’t deserve more attention.


Upsetti_Gisepe

👺


alexisthebest

Glorious comment


wf3h3

How in the hell was posting this and then waiting for replies faster than just googling "king taejong horse"?


Enraged_Lurker13

You don't get free karma from thousands of dimwits by Googling.


Ponicrat

Doesn't start a conversation in which other people learn a thing either


savbh

But how does getting karma help you? It doesn’t even show when you comment


Enraged_Lurker13

When it does show, some people are just addicted to seeing their numbers go up. This is why you get so much unoriginal content on this site, because people will just continuously post what consistently gets upvoted, which makes their brain release happy neurojuice.


wachagondo

Tens of thousands.


TeaAndCrumpets4life

No one cares about karma that much, some people just like the discussion of you can believe it


captainchristianwtf

I'm glad that I got to learn about King Taejong through this post


NomadNuka

This subreddit shouldn't exist. So many posts are easily searched or could be thought out with some basic critical thinking.


ShakeDat53

I thought it was less "i dont know what this is and want to find out" and more "i dont know what this is, other people probably also want to find out"


sirjonsnow

I swear I downvote 90+% of the submissions in this sub for this exact reason.


Domovric

And yet it is a pebble against the tidal wave frustratingly. I know reddit generally is low effort, but so many of the posts here really do just take the cake


CrabbyBlueberry

Or just assume that it's porn. Or Loss.


MickeyMoore

Sometimes it feels nicer/warmer to have a person explain directly rather than doing research.


Shovi

Im glad he didntdo that, now i learned about this doofus king.


Didnt_Earn_It

Thats like more than half the posts here. Even worse that you can search by photo. Petah needs to explain how search engines work apparently.


SensitivelyRoyal1

Basically he can’t delete his search history


Reasonable_Try_303

Reminds me of this old gem https://preview.redd.it/hg3ufnmp7hyc1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78ba07794dc3feb8a8b7d0ab9959acac6773dcfc


DonJuansSwanSong

Reminds me of Joel Michael Singer, the trust fund bitch who pulled [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmTheMainCharacter/comments/15q32pr/as_requested_main_character_joel_michael_singer/) and then begged his daddy to scrub all videos of it from the internet.


Mkyi2

I came back to this post to follow the link and no one even got hurt or ended up naked. Lame 😂 I saw "rich kid begged Daddy to scrub the internet" and fully expected some Better Call Saul S1E1 fucking a severed head or something horrific. But no, just some rich fuck kid threw a fit over being put in a headlock for throwing a fit.


fiveier_transform

The meme is referring to a record on the Veritable Records of the Joseon Dynasty. The Records are known for their meticulousness and integrity made possible by strict rules, including not allowing the king to read the records made during his reign. This particular record is about an indicident where King Taejong fell from a horse and told those who were around to not let the recorders know about it. The recorders found out, and recorded both the incident and the fact that he didn't want the incident to be recorded.


KanazawaBR

Oh my God meg, shut up


Current_Holiday1643

It's called Google. The term you need is literally inside of the meme: "King Taejon Korea horse", it's the second link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veritable_Records_of_the_Joseon_Dynasty. Like 95% of the posts I see from this sub are self-explanatory jokes. I stg like 90% of this site are either children or idiots.


Noda_Crystal

But you won't get karma by searching it yourself


TeaAndCrumpets4life

I wouldn’t have learned about this if it wasn’t for this post and neither would a lot of people. You guys are so desperate to try and be right and different that you’re disregarding the entire concept of a discussion. Not everyone wants to spend their life interacting with as few people as possible.


Somnioblivio

I think you should leave


Uzanto_Retejo

What's the big deal, this way more people get to see the meme and learn about the history. Seems like complaining for the sake of it.


Ok_WaterStarBoy3

This subreddit is literally just r/memes but the title is you being a dumbass and acting confused for Peter. Just post a funny meme and it will still be upvoted


loz_fanatic

I immediately pictured Ryan Reynolds as Van Wilder giving advice to Kal Penn Taj while riding a horse and saying 'write that down' then immediately falling off said horse. To which he goes, 'don't write that down'


mammal_shiekh

There's a similar story but happened in ancient China and much bloody. In around 554 BC in spring-autumn era, the court scriber of Qi Kingdom recorded the brutal truth of then chancellor Cui Shu's assassination of his king. The chancellor was pissed so killed this scribe. Scribe's 2 littlbe brothers continued his brother's job and recorded this event 2nd time and third time and were both killed. But their little brother still insisted to record it. Cui knew he could stop the scribes so stopped attempt of killing them. This story has a history and political background those. China's political system wasn't as centralised in the early eras as it was in later unified dynasties. The ability to learn to write was a privilege of few noble families and recording history was considered a holy or even religious duty to them. So these scribers and historians actually had not much lower social status as the kings did. That's part of their reason not afraid of kings and insisted recording the history. But in later dynasties when China was unified and the emperors hold much more centralised power, they began to interfere the history recording.


PrestigiousPea6088

chat, dont clip that!


dumspirospero816

Hold that thought... March... 4th. Michael Scott came up with golden ticket idea to give five customers ten percent off for one year.


Alepeople

What do you think???


thirtyseven1337

Like, why would someone make *this* up for the sake of a meme?


Lenneth1031

Another thing is that King Taejong wasn't some kind of mellow king. He killed a lot of brothers and relatives to be a king, and known for bloodshed throughout his life. Yet, those transcribers have a gut to write everything.


Aggravating_Eye2166

Yeah, these transcribers are not a joke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veritable_Records_of_the_Joseon_Dynasty These mfs would literally infiltrate king's chambers to eavesdrop it and write it down and rather die trying to stop the king from reading it.


ckfks

What would be the modern equivalent of falling from a horse? I guess back then horse were so much more important, just look at all the statues of people on horses


Aggravating_Eye2166

Car accident?


EnvironmentalSpirit2

How did you not understand? It's literally explained in the meme


yokato723

It's all true, except the costume is fucking chinese one Well fair enough, we can't distinguish English and French either


LostSoulsAlliance

Always wondered why Korean royalty had beaded curtains on their hats?


takoyakimura

It came from their chinese ancestor imperial culture. Why chinese had it, dunno. Maybe headdress attributes just like feathers for americans.


Impossible_Body6607

Koreans were influenced by chinese in culture but their ancestors werent chinese.


tarchum

Borrowed from China. Indigeniously Koreans used to have the much cooler[jade beads on golden crowns](https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/ap-art-history/south-east-se-asia/korea-art/a/gold-and-jade-crown-silla-kingdom)


PKMNTrainerMark

I mean, yes, but the meme is also pretty self-explanatory.


CaptNihilo

https://preview.redd.it/1kh6o0srljyc1.jpeg?width=1156&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0eac6aebf1c0a2db7d6eab3afb9dd402cda9b185


peezle69

The meme explained itself you ding-dong


moddss

Man I wish people could just Google things that are extremely easily searchable. It's literally got the name of a historic leader AND mentions a historian writing it down. PRETTY SURE IT'LL COME UP WITH 3 WORDS.


Chance815

Did you try googling first by any wild chance?


KeyResponsibility598

It would take less time to Google this than make a reddit post about it I genuinely don't get the posts on this subreddit


HegemonLocke86

All of the context clues are in here you dummy