I haven't worked in BGC for a long time now, only goes there now for occasional drinks at night. Pero which hawkers selling their wares ba to? If food carts, may permit yan. And i was always wishing na may naglalako ng taho dyan noon pero wala meron na ba?
Taas ng tingin nya sa BGC to be free of poor people e it's still a business district. Most people there are employees. Sa Monaco sya tumira.
A few months ago I saw someone selling food out of the back of their car. Like the food is in the trunk. I think office workers went to eat and it was supposed to be kept a secret as it was obviously not allowed.
Saan banda sa bgc yung mga hawkers?? Saka tigas ng mukha niya na sabihin na pag may food stalls na sa bgc eh hindi na magiging “safe”. FYI mostly pa rin sa BGC ay commercial establishments na maraming empleyado from low to middle class. So having these kind of still help them to have decent affordable lunch. Gaga toh Kung gusto mo may matirhan na safe dun ka sa forbes o kaya ayala-alabang. Oh ano? Di mo afford? Makademand, eh sa overpriced 24sqm studio lang naman nakatira.
Sorry haba ng rant
Do they know that the target customers of Hawkers and street vendors in BGC are not the likes of her? It's the secu guards and janitors. Yung mga minimum wage na hindi afford mag jollibee araw araw.
Ta@na nakakairita ang mga elitista.
may mga companies dyan na di makatarungan ang sahod compare sa cost of living sa bgc kaya karamihan dayo lang talaga. Kaya nga di nagrereklamo ang mga companies dyan sa ganyan eh hehehe.
Triggered ata yung OP dun sa mga Taho stalls at fruit/vegetable stands sa Highstreet tuwing weekends. Baka nasisira yung vibes nya habang nagkakape sa Harlan + Holden lol
Minsan apat pa sila dun. Punta ng office naka-corpo; uuwing matutulog sa sahig.
Nothing against sa mga natutulog sa sahig, but you probably know what I mean.
Totoo. Ung mga kasabay namin bumili dun sa naglalako ng 10p na pan de coco mga staff ng mga condo sa paligid. Kesa naman tatawid ka pa ng Kalayaan at least may option malapit sayo.
"For every hawker who moves to BGC, 10 people will lose their jobs...by being a less inviting place."
Bold of them to assume na walang tiga-labas na magfi-fill in ng trabaho niya. Noon pa man laging nang punuan yung mga transit lines to and from BGC sa dami ng mga dumadayo dun para magwork.
As usual, an elitist trying to justify their elitism but failing to kasi mapera lang naman sila, di naman sila matalino.
Mapera lang pero di afford na manirahan sa mga lugar na bawal ang so-called stray dogs (di ko pa din sure kung literal o metaphor to) like Forbes or Dasma lol
Much better if that person stayed in Forbes Park or Ayala Alabang. He doesn’t want to be called elitist but the way that person speaks end like one.
But damn even the rich doesn’t care about hawkers so long as they’re responsible in their actions
Not anymore. You can get at least a 60sqm, furnished, with a parking in decent places. A lot of the 1k per sqm is unoccupied. There are older and cheaper condos that got for even less than that, I’d assume there’s infestations. I almost moved to BGC, but backed out. When the agent asked what other place I considered, I said somewhere in forbeswood ata and tumawa sya because cockroaches daw.
Some thread about 15 minute neighborhoods. Some asshat didn’t want to accept that non-BGC neighborhoods can be classified as such. Bawal din pintasan yung neighborhood nya. Lmfao
petit-boug asshole is shocked that their income STILL isn't enough to let them maintain a completely walled-off alternate reality where poor people don't exist
they even have enough of a shred of self-awareness that this post makes them sound like a rabid reactionary so they take the coward's route of an _aNoNyMoUs post_, but they STILL can't help themselves and have to insert a preemptive "don't even try to call me an elitist".
yeah, sure, "other people are allowed to voice their opinions", and that includes having an opinion that this person fucking sucks
Malaking porsyento ng mga nasa BGC ay mga middle class. Putang ina, may mga foreigner ngang bumibili ng taho eh. Ano iniiyak iyak nyan sa mga naglalako ng paninda?
Unaware elitist that the target customers of hawkers are not her snobby elitist ass. It's the Security Guards, the tellers, the janitor, the street sweeper, the ordinary minimum wage person working in BGC who can't afford sh@ in BGC but has to work there.
Gettoutta here out of touch elitist prick. Go dip your ass in gold for all I care but lay off the ordinary honest working men and women who keep BGC working, and it sure as hell isn't the CEOs and Directors in their high and mighty seats in lofty towers.
Correct actually. There are hawkers in BGC indeed. And yes, tama yung sinasabi mo. These hawkers actually sell their stuff sa gilid gilid.
I see lots of comments here asking saan ang hawkers sa BGC.
Walk around highstreet, punta kayo doon sa parts na tago, sa likod ng CR, doon malapit sa mga car park, or doon sa mga tagong garden....haha sa likod ng lamborghini. Yung places na hindi pinupuntahan ng mga shoppers, visitors, residents. Doon may mga nagbebenta ng pagkain, checherya, chicharon. Madalas nakatago yung binebenta nila and they wear normal clothes, they ride on bikes. And yes, hindi bumibili ang mga "rich", "affluent", "pretentious" people sa kanila. Who buys from them? Security personnel, janitors, barbers, shop keepers, promodizers, gym staff, waiters, etc. Sometimes people who live in BGC buy from them too kasi aminin na nating masarap naman talaga ang checherya nila.
So true. Sometimes nothing beats a bananaque or turon from Ate Nena sa baba, walang sinabi ang mga starbucks frap or lava cake sa good old fashion turon
There are alot of reviews of restos in BGC. I love BGC mainly because of the food. Plus you get to buy stuff sa stores that you don't usually see around.
Maybe there should also be a review of the food that the hawkers sell.
Though, baka hindi food ang binebenta ng hawkers na binabanggit ng nagpost. I do remember, before I moved out, there were people na usually nakatambay in more mainstream areas. Hindi ko alam kung bakit pero parati silang may bitbit na shoes etc. Usually noon time sila nakatambay, marami sila. Not sure if they are selling those shoes. Baka may point sya....not gonna namedrop the business district but there is one CBD where I used to live, may hawkers rin doon pero yung binebenta nila are cellphones. If you look a certain type (parati ako naka pambahay hehe), they'll approach you and sell you a cellphone worth 3k to 5k. Medyo sketchy kasi baka ninakaw yung phone and when you say no to them, they either leave or become aggressive. Baka yun yung tinutukoy nya. Not sure, just playing devil's advocate.
Gusto ko talaga na one day may jollijeep, tusok-tusok, sorbetes, taho… in bgc. These businesses will in no way compete with the likes of las flores or wolfgang naman but they can produce the effects of:
1) making the district feel more organic and alive
2) allowing foreigners in bgc to experience the kinds of food we eat day to day in a genuine way, and
3) giving workers more affordable choices
Stray dogs (and to an extent cats) *can* be a big problem since they can contract rabies and bite.
Edit: Actually, even without rabies, dogs can give a while bunch of infections and can even kill someone when they form packs and attack. Cats are a lot more manageable in this regard and beneficial since they deal with rodents.
Stray cats solved my big rat problem. never seen one ever since, if only we can take her inside the house for our small rat problem, I would but they are risk heavy in furniture damages.
The problem with cats is they are the no.1 predator of birds. I don't mind cats but a large population of strays will have a devastating effect on an area's bird population
I have stepped in dog poop before. It is not easy to get off the shoes. And sometimes bacteria from shoes can get inside houses. Smaller kids who play on the floor are especially vulnerable to this shit.
anyone knows how turkiye treats their stray? Ang refreshing tignan, Sa yaman ng BGC walang makaisip ng ganun? Hayop pa rin talaga tayo compare sa stray dogs.
Ever bitten by one? Yung tipong wala ka namang ginagawang anything aggressive towards the stray dog pero kinagat ka pa rin?
Tapos since stray nga na **walang owner**, ***walang responsible o liable*** na tao sa traumatic experience mo.
Also, since stray ang dog, chances are hindi rin eto nabigyan ng anti-rabies shot.
Sana'y hindi ka makagat ng asong gala sampu ng iyong mga mahal sa buhay...
This post is referring to hawkers and poor people as "stray dogs".
The rest of his message had no further reference about animals.
I believe "stray dogs" was used as a derogatory insult rather than the literal animal itself.
Hindi naman kasi private yun BGC as a whole. Lipat ka ng ibang private estates like Archovia, Eastwood or Rockwell etc. Hater lang to ng mga strays saka di naman naninigaw yun nga vendors. They are polite and respectful. The fact na pinayagan sila ng management ( hindi sinisita or pinapaalis) sino ka para mag reklamo kamahalan😂
Occasionally in BGC and Makati area there are street vendors selling candy or Deep fried Togi or Bananaque.
Galit ang mga elitista makita ang mga ganito kasi kadiri daw tingnan sa backdrop ng Elitistang mundo nila. Hindi nila alam hindi naman sila ang binebentahan ng mga street food vendor. Yung mga minimum wage worker na nagtatrabaho sa BGC and Makati sila nagbebenta. Kahit gaano ka garbo at kayaman ang BGC kailangan pa nila ng Janitor or Security Guard. At hindi afford ng mga taong ito mag jollibee araw araw kaya sa street food vendor sila bumibili para may tanghalian sila.
So by saying that street food vendors should go away she basically is indirectly asking the minimum wage earners in BGC to either starve or spend more just to survive when they can already barely afford to live in minimum wage.
No I meant, wala namang mga ganyan sa BGC except during weekends at tuwing may events sa High Street lol.
Unless yung tinutukoy nung OP eh yung buildings sa may Mitsukoshi mall na may malaking ‘Mercato Centrale’ na logo. Baka magiging operational na yun this year tas daily pa haha.
Ay ayoko mga ganyan. . Bumibili naman ako ng taho, siomai, biko, palitaw, masi (mga vendots nito is polite usually) pero pls lang wag kayo mag lako pag kumakain ako sa Mang inasal. Nakakaguilty kaya kumakain ka kasi may extra ka nang pera tapos eto may tao nagsisikap maglako para magkapera. Ikaw nakaupo lang kulang nalang ipamukha sayo na holdup to bibili ka o bibili ka. Yung experience ko na ganto, chocolate lang naman tinda nya hindi naman essential na food.
The closest thing you can find are these hidden places where some people bring meals in plastic bags and sell them to people working in bgc. There used to be one behind old navy. There were some around uptown when the buildings were being built.
That will only happen once the Provinces far from Metro Manila are developed. As thing stands, it might not happen given that the Majority of Real Estate Companies not named Ayala and Megaworld are just building a shit load of overpriced low quality subdivision which contributes close to nothing in economic growth of provinces.
That will happen in the far distant future.
The only provinces who are kinda close to urbanization comparable to NCR is Cebu, Davao, Baguio and Pampanga. The rest is a long shot.
It has something to do with access to sea ports, Oil terminals, railways and major Airport which the vast majority of the provinces lacks (even baguio)
Moreover the provinces has tonloads of resources that are untapped because of very strict environmental rules. And no I'm not talking about mining but quarrying.
When that happens, everywhere else in Manila would probably be in a worse state.
You might think that's okay because you can "finally afford property." But when property values crash, your spending power (unless you're invested outside PH) also crashes like the 2007-2009 financial crisis.
Most likely, those who can afford BGC will just be able to buy more property. And people like you who can't afford BGC will be the ones who'll lose out.
TBH, I can't wait til property values in BGC crashes so I can buy out more property from people like you.
There really should be laws against individuals buying second/third/etc etc homes just to rent them out. Exorbitant taxes for them. But we know the politicians won't do it.
The housing market is effed up everywhere because many thought they could buy property as "investment" to rent them out thru AirBNB. I'm so glad AirBNB is crashing.
Families without houses yet should be prioritized. A new subdivision or condo bldg should prioritize first time house owners. Housing should be a human right. It's not fair that people with tons of money buy up a lot of properties, driving up real estate rates until those who should afford them can't.
Then again, politicians won't fix it cause they also benefit.
Very funny that that person above is so flippant about the house market crashing when the very action that they brag about contributes to the bubble.
If you agree with him, why bother outing yourself as a malignant capitalist who loves taking advantage of people's misery. Oh, that's because "people like you" like bragging about it.
> "And people like you who can't afford BGC will be the ones who'll lose out"
> "can't wait til property values in BGC crashes so I can buy out more property from people like you."
peak landlord brainrot
I can't wait for it to happen so I can enter BGC, not as a resident tho. Also I doubt mr entry level has any property in bgc for this to a be a net loss to him, outside of any major financial disasters, something amore mild like an increase in interest rates spooking property investors heh.
I wish housing goes down, the price is fucking ridiculous, daming properties walang laman dahil wala naman nakakaafford masyado. Hinohoard pa nung iba tapos di naman kayang bayaran hanggang huli.
If it crashes, everything will go down even the economy. Which will result in capital flight and job loss.
A recession will happen which mean more capital flight, more job losses.
The Philippines isn't an attractive investment destination due to restrictions and red tape so loss of business confidence.
You do realize that if BGC crashes, it means the rest of the country is doing significantly worse, right? You also realize that its one of the cities where foreign companies expand to and if it does crash, that means job loss and no support from outside investors.
But yeah, sure, let it crash, I'm sure the rest of the country burning will be a grand sight for you.
It will only crash if our and world economy is also heading for a crash. Key driver of real estate price increase specially in areas like BGC are foreign buyers and OFWs.
I would never wish for this to happen for whatever reason.
"Don't call me an elitist; everyone can voice out their opinion"
And my opinion is that they're an elitist. What? Seeing poor people is disgusting now? It breaks the illusion that outside the walls, there are people with lower income brackets? Why does hawker = security risk? I don't get it. Are all poor people just bad people? You know, sometimes I think what if we in the lower and middle class suddenly just vanished from the face of the Earth. I wonder how their world will be like then with all this hierarchy in mind.
Since parang marami ang nagrarant here about sa mga resident ng BGC, the likes, and sa mga rich kids in general, let us give you all a piece of our mind.
Di namin pinili na maging mayaman. Pake niyo ba kung may condo kami sa BGC? Pinaghiapan namin yun para makabili kami. I worked at my dad's office for 8 hours EVERYDAY for 2 months so I can buy a condo. Alam niyo, rather than ranting here how unfortunate you are, why not get a better full-time job so makapagbili kayo ng condo? Marami ngayong nagoopen ng jobs for young professionals, apply kayo.
Do you know how much lang yung downpayment ng condo? 1,850,000 lang. You can obviously buy it if you'd like. I think entry level jobs pay 30000 per day. So 1,850,000/30000 = 60. So in 2 months tine may condo na kayo.
See?? Instead of ranting na wala kayong condo sa BGC, bili na lang kayo. Be productive
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Sometimes I feel I need to question my existence 😅 how on earth someone wrote this down without feeling like a d head after confirming the post going online 🤦♂️
I mean I understand ignorance but if i would even share this sentence with my mum she will definitely slap the shit out of me
Keep his/her opinion to herself/himself but rants on socmed💀💀💀
If every part of this damned region can keep and treat other places even if insignificant or not famous but gets a treatment on how to maintain the "value" of the place then that would be great.
How about the place in Pasig? Vico got that cleaned up and people treat it with respect, that place remains clean even up till now.
A lot of elitist and people who have succeeded in life, you can see as you wander in BGC it's not clean anymore. You see a Starbucks tissue and cups just left here and there with no manners. A lot of trashes just left on parks and those ppl assume that its BGC so the people who cleans those is a must for them to maintain a picture.
It's not really about whether you have succeeded in life or still building up to that or maybe even you are one of those who didn't get the chance or was unfortunate. What matters is how you see and treat people not based on their social status. THIS DUDE JUST LIVES IN BGC NOW HE SEES OTHER PEOPLE AS PESTS, SHEESH IF EVERY CITIZEN HERE IS GIVEN A CHANCE TO BUILD AND HAVE A GOOD LIFE, THEN THIS MINDSET WOULDN'T EXIST.
He's not wrong though. There are proper places for vendors to sell their goods, permit to conduct businesses, and taxes to be paid. Yung mga nagpopost sa soc med na kesyo bumili kayo sa ganto kasi nakakaawa those are people who just want their post to go viral for them to have some dopamine hit and feel good about their existence. Social media does that to you.
The people who are belittling the OP of that anonymous post are the same people who are disgusted in places like Quiapo, Divisoria, Baclaran, Cubao. So yeah, let's turn every area in the metro like these places so these righteous people can feel good about themselves.
Grabe diring diri sa mahihirap huh, very new money naman ang ugali. Apaka coño but the original Castile spanish definition hindi yung alam na konyo ngayon.
I’d understand the sentiment is BGC is an exclusive subdivision. But it’s just a chunk of a particular city. They should complain if these “beggars” are doing business INSIDE their condo, etc. anywhere else is free estate.
Nawala yata sa isip nya na the only inviting premise sa BGC is it’s a business district. Residences there were created to cater sa working masses who can afford it so they can be near their jobs. Kala nya yata subdivision hahahaha
Gago, ano ba akala niya sa BGC, Forbes Park and Dasma Village? Mga middle class nga at minimum wage earner ang bumubuhay sa lugar na yan.
Also, as if naman sila ang dahilan kung bakit maraming nagta-trabaho diyan. If it were not for the tax incentives offered by PEZA, that enclave would have been long dead. Hindi na nga accessible, mahal pa mga bilihin.
Napaka-elitista talaga ng mga nandyan. I remember yung kwento ng isang maintenance staff ng isang condo. Kada out nila pati wallet tinitignan para sure na wala silang kinuha.
Hawkers are an important part of the city's soul. IMO, they should only be controlled if they are too many that they are obstructing the sidewalk, if not they're fine. They're doing business not asking for charities.
As for the stray dogs, I agree that they are a public safety threat but it's not like the hawkers' fault.
The concept of a city with dead boring streets except for loud cars to be considered pleasant and safe is so wrong and outdated.
Hahahaha! Show me the 'data' which proves that 10 workers will lose their jobs in the BGC for every hawker who moves in. It should be easy to find, SINCE YOU PULLED THAT'DATA' OUT OF YOUR ASS! :)))
I wish that anonymous poster could see all the comments here, lol.
the last statement.. i dont see that happening. BGC is open, not a gated subdivision so if he feels his sacred safety is violated, best to move to Dasma village or somewhere similar. I bet he has not seen the inside of Market Market
If anyone’s interest, s/he updated his/her post:
Please don't turn BGC into a homeless encampment. Welcoming stray dogs into the area, or buying from hawkers to support them, is not fair to those who moved here. BGC wasn't created to be a charity for the needy. If you want to contribute to a charity, by all means do so, but if you are not working for a lease-paying business, you shouldn't be in BGC doing business by begging people to buy your wares. If you buy from hawkers, you encourage more to come to the district.
This will drive away people like me who want a safe place to live. For every hawker whose moves to the city, 10 workers will lose their jobs from BGC being a less inviting place to live.
And please don't tell me to keep my opinion to myself, while calling me an elitist. Other people are allowed to voice their opinions.
What you are advocating is dogmatic insistence that the municipality that people paid to live in, for its safety, be turned into your personal charity project, at the expense of their personal safety. I don't like hawkers scowling at me when I refuse to buy their wares, and it's incredibly sanctimonious of you to demand I give up my sense of safety and comfort for your misguided and counter-productive social justice project.
Again: more people will lose their jobs than gain them, if hawkers are allowed to proliferate in BGC.
EDIT:
As for the people who insist on violating city ordinances to buy from unlicensed vendors, while endangering small children by inviting stray dogs: why don't you move to all of the other municipalities that allow hawking and stray dogs? And what is your response to the fact that BGC losing its law and order will lead to more low-income people losing their jobs as more businesses and high-income individuals choose against living in BGC?
Or is this all about emotions and ideology?
EDIT #2:
One of the recent incidents that triggered this post, and the throught process that that went into it:
Recently, while dining out late at night, I was harangued by a couple of teens to buy their wares. It's not a big deal on its own, but I can see the long-term consequences of this becoming increasingly normalized as people understandably feel sympathy for people on the margins just trying to survive, and so facilitate it, or refuse to enforce the rules against it.
The consequences is that BGC loses more of what makes it unique and exclusive, and becomes a bit more like Makati and Pasay, which are less desirable place to eat out, or visit as tourists.
So people may think they are doing a good deed by breaking city ordinances and helping those in need (and the people selling these goods are truly in need - no dispute there), but the business lost, from making BGC, and Philippines as a whole (since BGC is a flagship destination of the PH for major conferences and regional corporate headquarters), a place with more begging, and inevitably, more petty crime, will hurt the economy, and by extension, the low-income workers who depend on the income generated in BGC.
In other words, people's good intentions, combined with an idealism that doesn't want to consider the potential second-order effects of street disorder and begging, will have a net-negative effect on low-income people. That dissonance between people's intentions, and the outcome of their actions, really bothers me, so I made the post.
Caveat: I don't have any scientific studies proving that more hawkers will degrade BGC's business image and reduce the number of people who stay at high-end hotels like Shangri-La and Grand Hyatt, or that a downturn in business would harm low-income workers more than not allowing hawking in the district. The former is just business intuition, from what I understand about consumer behavior, and the latter is just back-of-the-envelope guestimates, based on how much high-income visitors/residents spend in the district, and the deduction that anything they don't spend with the hawkers will end up in low-income workers' hands anyway, as it will be spent at formal businesses who employ their own workers.
Summary: there is a right way and wrong way to help the needy. The right way is through a plan that causes minimal disruption to economic engines that so many people depend on. I am just imporing that it be done in the right way. The angry tone is directed at the dogmatism/knee-jerk-reactions that I frequently encounter, that can make these kinds of needed discussions impossible.
For every hawker who moves into BGC, 10 workers will lose their jobs? Where and how did you get this statistic OP? Or are you just pulling statistics out of thin air to support your argument?
Very elitist nga i think. To think of it true rich people wouldnt mind haha.
May pa "social-justice" pa siya while this poster justifying 10 people will lose their jobs.
Just move out of BGC. Theres a lot of developments out there na kung talagang kaya naman ng purchasing power mo di ba
I haven't worked in BGC for a long time now, only goes there now for occasional drinks at night. Pero which hawkers selling their wares ba to? If food carts, may permit yan. And i was always wishing na may naglalako ng taho dyan noon pero wala meron na ba? Taas ng tingin nya sa BGC to be free of poor people e it's still a business district. Most people there are employees. Sa Monaco sya tumira.
A few months ago I saw someone selling food out of the back of their car. Like the food is in the trunk. I think office workers went to eat and it was supposed to be kept a secret as it was obviously not allowed.
May magtataho sa may Central Square / One Bonifacio + other residential areas. ₱50 per cup.
Saan banda sa bgc yung mga hawkers?? Saka tigas ng mukha niya na sabihin na pag may food stalls na sa bgc eh hindi na magiging “safe”. FYI mostly pa rin sa BGC ay commercial establishments na maraming empleyado from low to middle class. So having these kind of still help them to have decent affordable lunch. Gaga toh Kung gusto mo may matirhan na safe dun ka sa forbes o kaya ayala-alabang. Oh ano? Di mo afford? Makademand, eh sa overpriced 24sqm studio lang naman nakatira. Sorry haba ng rant
Do they know that the target customers of Hawkers and street vendors in BGC are not the likes of her? It's the secu guards and janitors. Yung mga minimum wage na hindi afford mag jollibee araw araw. Ta@na nakakairita ang mga elitista.
may mga companies dyan na di makatarungan ang sahod compare sa cost of living sa bgc kaya karamihan dayo lang talaga. Kaya nga di nagrereklamo ang mga companies dyan sa ganyan eh hehehe.
Triggered ata yung OP dun sa mga Taho stalls at fruit/vegetable stands sa Highstreet tuwing weekends. Baka nasisira yung vibes nya habang nagkakape sa Harlan + Holden lol
Diba sila inallow ng BGC na magbenta don?
Sayang sana pati weekdays may taho stalls para di nakakagutom mag lakad pag pumupunta ng BGC.
HAHAHA KOREK DUN SA overpriced 24sqm studio lang nakatira :))))))))
Minsan apat pa sila dun. Punta ng office naka-corpo; uuwing matutulog sa sahig. Nothing against sa mga natutulog sa sahig, but you probably know what I mean.
Totoo. Ung mga kasabay namin bumili dun sa naglalako ng 10p na pan de coco mga staff ng mga condo sa paligid. Kesa naman tatawid ka pa ng Kalayaan at least may option malapit sayo.
Sa serendra at sa 5th tuwing weekends
The FB OP seeing hawkers in Singapore: “Literally hell on earth!!”
🎻🎻
Yung mga staff po sa Hawker Chan sa One boni.
"For every hawker who moves to BGC, 10 people will lose their jobs...by being a less inviting place." Bold of them to assume na walang tiga-labas na magfi-fill in ng trabaho niya. Noon pa man laging nang punuan yung mga transit lines to and from BGC sa dami ng mga dumadayo dun para magwork. As usual, an elitist trying to justify their elitism but failing to kasi mapera lang naman sila, di naman sila matalino.
Mapera lang pero di afford na manirahan sa mga lugar na bawal ang so-called stray dogs (di ko pa din sure kung literal o metaphor to) like Forbes or Dasma lol
Mag Forbes Park sya lol
Avida daw. Studio. Room share eme.
What’s wrong with this?
Nothing not unless you are an elitist looking down on people.
Tama! Dun sya lumipat!
Much better if that person stayed in Forbes Park or Ayala Alabang. He doesn’t want to be called elitist but the way that person speaks end like one. But damn even the rich doesn’t care about hawkers so long as they’re responsible in their actions
Naalala ko yung Redditor na taga-BGC. Siya din kaya yan?
Was that the guy who said 50k rent is on the low end or sum
50k in bgc, thats like 1br, <50sqm, no parking. If you're not working in bgc, better to just stay somewhere else. 50k can go a long way.
Not anymore. You can get at least a 60sqm, furnished, with a parking in decent places. A lot of the 1k per sqm is unoccupied. There are older and cheaper condos that got for even less than that, I’d assume there’s infestations. I almost moved to BGC, but backed out. When the agent asked what other place I considered, I said somewhere in forbeswood ata and tumawa sya because cockroaches daw.
Baka extra nya lang kasi yung 50k
Idk but one of them guys
what's the context about that? curious ako
Some thread about 15 minute neighborhoods. Some asshat didn’t want to accept that non-BGC neighborhoods can be classified as such. Bawal din pintasan yung neighborhood nya. Lmfao
sounds like a pain in the bum person.. makadayo nga sa neighborhood na yun dala ako ng OTJ HAHAHAHA
NoConsideration5775 yung username
Me too
Feel ko din, hindi pa daw sya elitist ng lagay na yon hahaha
Yah. Ayaw niya din ng idea na magkaron ng cheapass food options sa BGC e. Bakit daw need ng wet market kung may supermarket naman.
Wag syang magrereklamo bakit mahal Ang bilihin. Eto ata Yung tao amaze na amaze nakakita Ng something cheap na Hindi supermarket.
I don’t think magrereklamo sya. Feel na feel nya pa siguro kasi afford nya
as if this elitist cares about hawkers and lost jobs. puhlease
Happy bday lodi 😊
Can't even be classified as an elitist, rich people don't even have time for facebook lol
elitist doesn't simply mean rich people....
petit-boug asshole is shocked that their income STILL isn't enough to let them maintain a completely walled-off alternate reality where poor people don't exist they even have enough of a shred of self-awareness that this post makes them sound like a rabid reactionary so they take the coward's route of an _aNoNyMoUs post_, but they STILL can't help themselves and have to insert a preemptive "don't even try to call me an elitist". yeah, sure, "other people are allowed to voice their opinions", and that includes having an opinion that this person fucking sucks
Malaking porsyento ng mga nasa BGC ay mga middle class. Putang ina, may mga foreigner ngang bumibili ng taho eh. Ano iniiyak iyak nyan sa mga naglalako ng paninda?
Muh privileges
[Best tweet](https://twitter.com/duckses/status/1628634165850812417) in response to the screenshot post.
hahaha yikes. got dunked on hard.
Naiirita ako sa pagdrop ni elitist ng big words every 5 words into their rant para kunyari smart siya. Mukha pa rin naman siyang tanga.
Get a bed in the burn unit!
napaka sheltered naman ng life ng putang ina na to, actually good bc his dream BGC only creates more ppl like him
Unaware elitist that the target customers of hawkers are not her snobby elitist ass. It's the Security Guards, the tellers, the janitor, the street sweeper, the ordinary minimum wage person working in BGC who can't afford sh@ in BGC but has to work there. Gettoutta here out of touch elitist prick. Go dip your ass in gold for all I care but lay off the ordinary honest working men and women who keep BGC working, and it sure as hell isn't the CEOs and Directors in their high and mighty seats in lofty towers.
Correct actually. There are hawkers in BGC indeed. And yes, tama yung sinasabi mo. These hawkers actually sell their stuff sa gilid gilid. I see lots of comments here asking saan ang hawkers sa BGC. Walk around highstreet, punta kayo doon sa parts na tago, sa likod ng CR, doon malapit sa mga car park, or doon sa mga tagong garden....haha sa likod ng lamborghini. Yung places na hindi pinupuntahan ng mga shoppers, visitors, residents. Doon may mga nagbebenta ng pagkain, checherya, chicharon. Madalas nakatago yung binebenta nila and they wear normal clothes, they ride on bikes. And yes, hindi bumibili ang mga "rich", "affluent", "pretentious" people sa kanila. Who buys from them? Security personnel, janitors, barbers, shop keepers, promodizers, gym staff, waiters, etc. Sometimes people who live in BGC buy from them too kasi aminin na nating masarap naman talaga ang checherya nila.
So true. Sometimes nothing beats a bananaque or turon from Ate Nena sa baba, walang sinabi ang mga starbucks frap or lava cake sa good old fashion turon
There are alot of reviews of restos in BGC. I love BGC mainly because of the food. Plus you get to buy stuff sa stores that you don't usually see around. Maybe there should also be a review of the food that the hawkers sell. Though, baka hindi food ang binebenta ng hawkers na binabanggit ng nagpost. I do remember, before I moved out, there were people na usually nakatambay in more mainstream areas. Hindi ko alam kung bakit pero parati silang may bitbit na shoes etc. Usually noon time sila nakatambay, marami sila. Not sure if they are selling those shoes. Baka may point sya....not gonna namedrop the business district but there is one CBD where I used to live, may hawkers rin doon pero yung binebenta nila are cellphones. If you look a certain type (parati ako naka pambahay hehe), they'll approach you and sell you a cellphone worth 3k to 5k. Medyo sketchy kasi baka ninakaw yung phone and when you say no to them, they either leave or become aggressive. Baka yun yung tinutukoy nya. Not sure, just playing devil's advocate.
Gusto ko talaga na one day may jollijeep, tusok-tusok, sorbetes, taho… in bgc. These businesses will in no way compete with the likes of las flores or wolfgang naman but they can produce the effects of: 1) making the district feel more organic and alive 2) allowing foreigners in bgc to experience the kinds of food we eat day to day in a genuine way, and 3) giving workers more affordable choices
I have a feeling bagong yaman to, yung tipong college na nung unang nakatikim ng sinigang.
What's wrong with stray dogs, base sa post niya mas tao pa kaysa sa kanya ung mga aso na yun.
People give stray dogs more love than he will ever get or deserve, so he's jealous.
I love stray dogs. They deserve so much love anyways
I do too. I adopted two and will bring them back stateside. I would adopt more if I could.
Tbh, mas nakita ko pa na tumatawid sa pedxing yung stray dogs kesa sa mga nagtatrabaho sa mga big banks sa bgc.
Nakikita ko rin ‘to! I’d pick behaved strays over entitled expats growing in number sa BGC any day.
also, if bgc is such a luxury place to be in, it should've had animal control department or something.
Stray dogs (and to an extent cats) *can* be a big problem since they can contract rabies and bite. Edit: Actually, even without rabies, dogs can give a while bunch of infections and can even kill someone when they form packs and attack. Cats are a lot more manageable in this regard and beneficial since they deal with rodents.
+1 for Team Cat
Stray cats solved my big rat problem. never seen one ever since, if only we can take her inside the house for our small rat problem, I would but they are risk heavy in furniture damages.
The problem with cats is they are the no.1 predator of birds. I don't mind cats but a large population of strays will have a devastating effect on an area's bird population
I don't think birds are going to thrive in a city like BGC in the first place honestly.
This. The place is a wasteland from an ecological standpoint.
I have stepped in dog poop before. It is not easy to get off the shoes. And sometimes bacteria from shoes can get inside houses. Smaller kids who play on the floor are especially vulnerable to this shit.
anyone knows how turkiye treats their stray? Ang refreshing tignan, Sa yaman ng BGC walang makaisip ng ganun? Hayop pa rin talaga tayo compare sa stray dogs.
>anyone knows how turkiye treats their stray so paano nga
I assumed they were using stray dogs as a metaphor for poor people
Rabies
Ever bitten by one? Yung tipong wala ka namang ginagawang anything aggressive towards the stray dog pero kinagat ka pa rin? Tapos since stray nga na **walang owner**, ***walang responsible o liable*** na tao sa traumatic experience mo. Also, since stray ang dog, chances are hindi rin eto nabigyan ng anti-rabies shot. Sana'y hindi ka makagat ng asong gala sampu ng iyong mga mahal sa buhay...
This post is referring to hawkers and poor people as "stray dogs". The rest of his message had no further reference about animals. I believe "stray dogs" was used as a derogatory insult rather than the literal animal itself.
Maybe they like to post metaphorically
Ano ba yung tinutukoy nyang hawkers? Yung mga nagtitinda sa banchetto or yung mga temporarily nagtitinda ng pagkain sa mall grounds?
Textbook definition ng matapobre. 😂
Hindi naman kasi private yun BGC as a whole. Lipat ka ng ibang private estates like Archovia, Eastwood or Rockwell etc. Hater lang to ng mga strays saka di naman naninigaw yun nga vendors. They are polite and respectful. The fact na pinayagan sila ng management ( hindi sinisita or pinapaalis) sino ka para mag reklamo kamahalan😂
okay padin sa eastwood, malapit lang lakarin yung likod papunta sa court, daming kainan. kakamis yung fried siomai!! 🤤
Di ba ang saya 🔥 if gusto mo ng mura lakad ka sa likod. Andon lahat ng pde mo maisip na kainin na mura pero malinis.
Naalala ko niyaya kami kumain nung isang co-worker namin sa Outback. Kala ko talaga sa steakhouse, yun pala literal na sa likod na labas ng Eastwood 😂
Anong hawkers? Yung sa Mercato ganun?
Occasionally in BGC and Makati area there are street vendors selling candy or Deep fried Togi or Bananaque. Galit ang mga elitista makita ang mga ganito kasi kadiri daw tingnan sa backdrop ng Elitistang mundo nila. Hindi nila alam hindi naman sila ang binebentahan ng mga street food vendor. Yung mga minimum wage worker na nagtatrabaho sa BGC and Makati sila nagbebenta. Kahit gaano ka garbo at kayaman ang BGC kailangan pa nila ng Janitor or Security Guard. At hindi afford ng mga taong ito mag jollibee araw araw kaya sa street food vendor sila bumibili para may tanghalian sila. So by saying that street food vendors should go away she basically is indirectly asking the minimum wage earners in BGC to either starve or spend more just to survive when they can already barely afford to live in minimum wage.
San banda yang street vendors? Mapuntahan nga at gusto ko ng bananacue.
50 peso bananacue time.
Yup and people working in business will leave in droves if food there is unaffordable.
Streetfood vendor, food stalls/ carts ata.
No I meant, wala namang mga ganyan sa BGC except during weekends at tuwing may events sa High Street lol. Unless yung tinutukoy nung OP eh yung buildings sa may Mitsukoshi mall na may malaking ‘Mercato Centrale’ na logo. Baka magiging operational na yun this year tas daily pa haha.
I see. Then mas out of touch pa pala si OP kesa sa OG assesment ko.
Dun sila lumipat? Ang layo kung kailan nasa BGC na ulit ako tapos sa baba lang nila dapat kaso tatayuan na ng office bldg yung may ASEAN na mural.
Parang may nakita ako sa serendra. Nakatayo lang sya tapos may bag. Nagaalok sa dumadaan. Or namalikmata lang ako nun.
Are these even in BGC? aren’t they in the outskirts anyway?
Eto ata yung lumalapit habang kumakain ka tapos kesyo working student daw sya at bebentahan ka ng mga pampasalubong (macapuno balls, espasol)
Feeling ko din ito yung tinutukoy nya
Ay ayoko mga ganyan. . Bumibili naman ako ng taho, siomai, biko, palitaw, masi (mga vendots nito is polite usually) pero pls lang wag kayo mag lako pag kumakain ako sa Mang inasal. Nakakaguilty kaya kumakain ka kasi may extra ka nang pera tapos eto may tao nagsisikap maglako para magkapera. Ikaw nakaupo lang kulang nalang ipamukha sayo na holdup to bibili ka o bibili ka. Yung experience ko na ganto, chocolate lang naman tinda nya hindi naman essential na food.
The closest thing you can find are these hidden places where some people bring meals in plastic bags and sell them to people working in bgc. There used to be one behind old navy. There were some around uptown when the buildings were being built.
Akala ko hawker chan. Fuming sana ako kasi I enjoyed their chicken. Haha.
lOoK aT aLl ThEsE bIg WoRdS tHaT i KnOw
Big words? Where?
17 yrs na ko dito sa BGC nagwowork. 10 minutes away ang bahay ko sa Kalayaan. Anong hawker pinagsasabi niya? Haha.
baka si manong na dirty mami sa old lawton o yung mga nagbebenta ng food na naka plastic
kaya naaanxious ako makipagkilala sa ibang tao e, kasi di mo alam kung ung namimeet mo ganto din mag isip.
Why would you let this kind of low life people affect you?
NIMBY pero wala namang back yard kasi nasa condo
Usually, people who post stupid shit like this are ) Hindi naman nakatira sa BGC or ) New rich.
Agree. Normally yung tunay na mayaman will just ignore this but pips na hindi totoong mayaman (since birth) ang medyo madaming nasasabi.
I cannot wait til property values in bgc crash
That will only happen once the Provinces far from Metro Manila are developed. As thing stands, it might not happen given that the Majority of Real Estate Companies not named Ayala and Megaworld are just building a shit load of overpriced low quality subdivision which contributes close to nothing in economic growth of provinces.
That will happen in the far distant future. The only provinces who are kinda close to urbanization comparable to NCR is Cebu, Davao, Baguio and Pampanga. The rest is a long shot. It has something to do with access to sea ports, Oil terminals, railways and major Airport which the vast majority of the provinces lacks (even baguio) Moreover the provinces has tonloads of resources that are untapped because of very strict environmental rules. And no I'm not talking about mining but quarrying.
mahirap kasi mag dedevelop nung mga province near manila ay villars
When that happens, everywhere else in Manila would probably be in a worse state. You might think that's okay because you can "finally afford property." But when property values crash, your spending power (unless you're invested outside PH) also crashes like the 2007-2009 financial crisis. Most likely, those who can afford BGC will just be able to buy more property. And people like you who can't afford BGC will be the ones who'll lose out. TBH, I can't wait til property values in BGC crashes so I can buy out more property from people like you.
There really should be laws against individuals buying second/third/etc etc homes just to rent them out. Exorbitant taxes for them. But we know the politicians won't do it.
Yes! 100% agree. Singapore did this so well. Other countries are trying to come up with ways to tax 2nd/3rd homes but it's not as effective.
The housing market is effed up everywhere because many thought they could buy property as "investment" to rent them out thru AirBNB. I'm so glad AirBNB is crashing. Families without houses yet should be prioritized. A new subdivision or condo bldg should prioritize first time house owners. Housing should be a human right. It's not fair that people with tons of money buy up a lot of properties, driving up real estate rates until those who should afford them can't. Then again, politicians won't fix it cause they also benefit. Very funny that that person above is so flippant about the house market crashing when the very action that they brag about contributes to the bubble.
>Then again, politicians won't fix it cause they also benefit. The root of all our problems unfortunately.
Based
If you agree with him, why bother outing yourself as a malignant capitalist who loves taking advantage of people's misery. Oh, that's because "people like you" like bragging about it.
> "And people like you who can't afford BGC will be the ones who'll lose out" > "can't wait til property values in BGC crashes so I can buy out more property from people like you." peak landlord brainrot
I can't wait for it to happen so I can enter BGC, not as a resident tho. Also I doubt mr entry level has any property in bgc for this to a be a net loss to him, outside of any major financial disasters, something amore mild like an increase in interest rates spooking property investors heh.
I wish housing goes down, the price is fucking ridiculous, daming properties walang laman dahil wala naman nakakaafford masyado. Hinohoard pa nung iba tapos di naman kayang bayaran hanggang huli.
Lol keep dreaming
I hope it crash so hard tbh, overpriced lahat dun pero mediocre in reality.
yeah burn the whole country to the ground - that'll show 'em /s
If BGC crashes, it only means that the entire economy of the country has crashed as well.
If it crashes, everything will go down even the economy. Which will result in capital flight and job loss. A recession will happen which mean more capital flight, more job losses. The Philippines isn't an attractive investment destination due to restrictions and red tape so loss of business confidence.
You do realize that if BGC crashes, it means the rest of the country is doing significantly worse, right? You also realize that its one of the cities where foreign companies expand to and if it does crash, that means job loss and no support from outside investors. But yeah, sure, let it crash, I'm sure the rest of the country burning will be a grand sight for you.
It will only crash if our and world economy is also heading for a crash. Key driver of real estate price increase specially in areas like BGC are foreign buyers and OFWs. I would never wish for this to happen for whatever reason.
Don't be a hater. Hahah.
The design is very forda-haciendera.
Mas oks pa rin yung community na may sari-sari store. hahaha
"Don't call me an elitist; everyone can voice out their opinion" And my opinion is that they're an elitist. What? Seeing poor people is disgusting now? It breaks the illusion that outside the walls, there are people with lower income brackets? Why does hawker = security risk? I don't get it. Are all poor people just bad people? You know, sometimes I think what if we in the lower and middle class suddenly just vanished from the face of the Earth. I wonder how their world will be like then with all this hierarchy in mind.
Lol tapos pumunta siya ng singapore to share on instagram “omg i love hawker food!”
“this will drive away people like me…” awuw look at you, dahling. Seryoso bang nacount nya yung sarili to some sort of upper class ferson lol
And with that, BGC na ang gagawin kong isa sa setting ng dystopian story na kinoconceptualize ko, nyahahaha! 😈
So sino gusto nya kasama sa BGC? Illegal POGO employees na wala halos ambag sa lipunan?
Even singapore have hawkers even near city centers I never understand his logic.
Since parang marami ang nagrarant here about sa mga resident ng BGC, the likes, and sa mga rich kids in general, let us give you all a piece of our mind. Di namin pinili na maging mayaman. Pake niyo ba kung may condo kami sa BGC? Pinaghiapan namin yun para makabili kami. I worked at my dad's office for 8 hours EVERYDAY for 2 months so I can buy a condo. Alam niyo, rather than ranting here how unfortunate you are, why not get a better full-time job so makapagbili kayo ng condo? Marami ngayong nagoopen ng jobs for young professionals, apply kayo. Do you know how much lang yung downpayment ng condo? 1,850,000 lang. You can obviously buy it if you'd like. I think entry level jobs pay 30000 per day. So 1,850,000/30000 = 60. So in 2 months tine may condo na kayo. See?? Instead of ranting na wala kayong condo sa BGC, bili na lang kayo. Be productive >!brought to you by: https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/119tuea/up\_rich\_kid\_out\_of\_touch\_rant\_copypasta/!<
Daming na jebait sa comment mo ah haha
Good bait hahaha bago to ah
This is a tasty copypasta. Would use on future BGC posts here
Umuuso na ang copy pasta na toh ah? Hahaha
Hahahahaahahha this is the sarcasm I am aiming for, tipong di na maaninag hahaha. Two months 8 hours instant condo e no hahaahahah
Gagi hahaha
Tang-inang to. Cge na, lagyan na natin ng mga Jollijeep ang BGC to spite them.
eh di siya na mag presidente
bakit ba dinadala yung FB post dito sa reddit.. duh............... eh sa gusto namin bumili sa mga vendors e! hello mas mura kaya
Plot twist: di naman talaga yayamanin yung nag rant. For all we know feeling elitist lang kasi sa bgc nagrrent lol
Move to Ayala Alabang, Dasma Village or Bel-Air, OP biatch. Lol
>"I dont like hawkers scowling at me when I refuse to buy their wares". Me ganun ba tlaga? I doubt it
they only scowl if you act like an arse, which anon probably does every day lol
By all means, be unemployed.
Anong meron sa BGC? Rockwell Makati is far better. 😏
Sometimes I feel I need to question my existence 😅 how on earth someone wrote this down without feeling like a d head after confirming the post going online 🤦♂️ I mean I understand ignorance but if i would even share this sentence with my mum she will definitely slap the shit out of me
Another day, another r/ph BGC drama
Bourgeoisie Global City
Dogmatic insistence 😂🤣
He thought BGC is a private place and he is entitled to private property privileges hahahah. BGC is not an exclusive subdivision!
Your flash doesn’t impress me, BGC.
Keep his/her opinion to herself/himself but rants on socmed💀💀💀 If every part of this damned region can keep and treat other places even if insignificant or not famous but gets a treatment on how to maintain the "value" of the place then that would be great. How about the place in Pasig? Vico got that cleaned up and people treat it with respect, that place remains clean even up till now. A lot of elitist and people who have succeeded in life, you can see as you wander in BGC it's not clean anymore. You see a Starbucks tissue and cups just left here and there with no manners. A lot of trashes just left on parks and those ppl assume that its BGC so the people who cleans those is a must for them to maintain a picture. It's not really about whether you have succeeded in life or still building up to that or maybe even you are one of those who didn't get the chance or was unfortunate. What matters is how you see and treat people not based on their social status. THIS DUDE JUST LIVES IN BGC NOW HE SEES OTHER PEOPLE AS PESTS, SHEESH IF EVERY CITIZEN HERE IS GIVEN A CHANCE TO BUILD AND HAVE A GOOD LIFE, THEN THIS MINDSET WOULDN'T EXIST.
He's not wrong though. There are proper places for vendors to sell their goods, permit to conduct businesses, and taxes to be paid. Yung mga nagpopost sa soc med na kesyo bumili kayo sa ganto kasi nakakaawa those are people who just want their post to go viral for them to have some dopamine hit and feel good about their existence. Social media does that to you. The people who are belittling the OP of that anonymous post are the same people who are disgusted in places like Quiapo, Divisoria, Baclaran, Cubao. So yeah, let's turn every area in the metro like these places so these righteous people can feel good about themselves.
Kung bawal dapat paalisin ng pulis.
That friends episode where Joey learned how to use the Thesaurus lol
this reeks of elitism and selfishness...
Fucking spineless little shit. Ironic that FB is mostly used by the masses this little shit despises.
San banda hawkers dun?
Nope. Elitist ka talaga
Napaka elistista naman nito 🙄
Gatekeeping BGC because of what?!
Sino ba tong share ng share ng screenshot sa group, nakalagay nga bawal. Lol.
Grabe diring diri sa mahihirap huh, very new money naman ang ugali. Apaka coño but the original Castile spanish definition hindi yung alam na konyo ngayon.
I’m a part of this group and most of the comments do not agree with the poster. FYI.
What group sa facebook
San yung hawkers? Makadayo at makabili
Fuck your opinion!
for every hawker 10 workers will lose their jobs. they did the math /s
I’d understand the sentiment is BGC is an exclusive subdivision. But it’s just a chunk of a particular city. They should complain if these “beggars” are doing business INSIDE their condo, etc. anywhere else is free estate. Nawala yata sa isip nya na the only inviting premise sa BGC is it’s a business district. Residences there were created to cater sa working masses who can afford it so they can be near their jobs. Kala nya yata subdivision hahahaha
Gago, ano ba akala niya sa BGC, Forbes Park and Dasma Village? Mga middle class nga at minimum wage earner ang bumubuhay sa lugar na yan. Also, as if naman sila ang dahilan kung bakit maraming nagta-trabaho diyan. If it were not for the tax incentives offered by PEZA, that enclave would have been long dead. Hindi na nga accessible, mahal pa mga bilihin. Napaka-elitista talaga ng mga nandyan. I remember yung kwento ng isang maintenance staff ng isang condo. Kada out nila pati wallet tinitignan para sure na wala silang kinuha.
Bro's a statistician all of a sudden
Singapore nga may Hawkers... anung pinagsasabi nito.
Hawkers are an important part of the city's soul. IMO, they should only be controlled if they are too many that they are obstructing the sidewalk, if not they're fine. They're doing business not asking for charities. As for the stray dogs, I agree that they are a public safety threat but it's not like the hawkers' fault. The concept of a city with dead boring streets except for loud cars to be considered pleasant and safe is so wrong and outdated.
What a stupid read. This is why not everyone should post their thoughts on social media even if they can
Hahahaha! Show me the 'data' which proves that 10 workers will lose their jobs in the BGC for every hawker who moves in. It should be easy to find, SINCE YOU PULLED THAT'DATA' OUT OF YOUR ASS! :))) I wish that anonymous poster could see all the comments here, lol.
edi sayo na bgc 😆
the last statement.. i dont see that happening. BGC is open, not a gated subdivision so if he feels his sacred safety is violated, best to move to Dasma village or somewhere similar. I bet he has not seen the inside of Market Market
If anyone’s interest, s/he updated his/her post: Please don't turn BGC into a homeless encampment. Welcoming stray dogs into the area, or buying from hawkers to support them, is not fair to those who moved here. BGC wasn't created to be a charity for the needy. If you want to contribute to a charity, by all means do so, but if you are not working for a lease-paying business, you shouldn't be in BGC doing business by begging people to buy your wares. If you buy from hawkers, you encourage more to come to the district. This will drive away people like me who want a safe place to live. For every hawker whose moves to the city, 10 workers will lose their jobs from BGC being a less inviting place to live. And please don't tell me to keep my opinion to myself, while calling me an elitist. Other people are allowed to voice their opinions. What you are advocating is dogmatic insistence that the municipality that people paid to live in, for its safety, be turned into your personal charity project, at the expense of their personal safety. I don't like hawkers scowling at me when I refuse to buy their wares, and it's incredibly sanctimonious of you to demand I give up my sense of safety and comfort for your misguided and counter-productive social justice project. Again: more people will lose their jobs than gain them, if hawkers are allowed to proliferate in BGC. EDIT: As for the people who insist on violating city ordinances to buy from unlicensed vendors, while endangering small children by inviting stray dogs: why don't you move to all of the other municipalities that allow hawking and stray dogs? And what is your response to the fact that BGC losing its law and order will lead to more low-income people losing their jobs as more businesses and high-income individuals choose against living in BGC? Or is this all about emotions and ideology? EDIT #2: One of the recent incidents that triggered this post, and the throught process that that went into it: Recently, while dining out late at night, I was harangued by a couple of teens to buy their wares. It's not a big deal on its own, but I can see the long-term consequences of this becoming increasingly normalized as people understandably feel sympathy for people on the margins just trying to survive, and so facilitate it, or refuse to enforce the rules against it. The consequences is that BGC loses more of what makes it unique and exclusive, and becomes a bit more like Makati and Pasay, which are less desirable place to eat out, or visit as tourists. So people may think they are doing a good deed by breaking city ordinances and helping those in need (and the people selling these goods are truly in need - no dispute there), but the business lost, from making BGC, and Philippines as a whole (since BGC is a flagship destination of the PH for major conferences and regional corporate headquarters), a place with more begging, and inevitably, more petty crime, will hurt the economy, and by extension, the low-income workers who depend on the income generated in BGC. In other words, people's good intentions, combined with an idealism that doesn't want to consider the potential second-order effects of street disorder and begging, will have a net-negative effect on low-income people. That dissonance between people's intentions, and the outcome of their actions, really bothers me, so I made the post. Caveat: I don't have any scientific studies proving that more hawkers will degrade BGC's business image and reduce the number of people who stay at high-end hotels like Shangri-La and Grand Hyatt, or that a downturn in business would harm low-income workers more than not allowing hawking in the district. The former is just business intuition, from what I understand about consumer behavior, and the latter is just back-of-the-envelope guestimates, based on how much high-income visitors/residents spend in the district, and the deduction that anything they don't spend with the hawkers will end up in low-income workers' hands anyway, as it will be spent at formal businesses who employ their own workers. Summary: there is a right way and wrong way to help the needy. The right way is through a plan that causes minimal disruption to economic engines that so many people depend on. I am just imporing that it be done in the right way. The angry tone is directed at the dogmatism/knee-jerk-reactions that I frequently encounter, that can make these kinds of needed discussions impossible.
Matapobre yawrn
I've had enough of this kaburgisan 🤢
B'at lahat ng burgis sa bansa na'to eh mga tanga? Ang sarap tadyakan eh
For every hawker who moves into BGC, 10 workers will lose their jobs? Where and how did you get this statistic OP? Or are you just pulling statistics out of thin air to support your argument?
OP is allowed to voice his (crappy) opinion, sure. We're also allowed to call him out for what he is: an elitist.
Very elitist nga i think. To think of it true rich people wouldnt mind haha. May pa "social-justice" pa siya while this poster justifying 10 people will lose their jobs. Just move out of BGC. Theres a lot of developments out there na kung talagang kaya naman ng purchasing power mo di ba
Lol allergic sa working class pero dedma sa mga nagkalat na buwaya sa BGC.
RIP grammar.