It’s also most likely because of the implementation of K-12, DepEd has built these cream and green buildings in every public high school. This is most evident in my HS where the school’s color is clearly Brown/Maroon aesthetic, and after the K-12 implementation there popped up 3 of these buildings.
Yup, most local high schools in my city had always had those buildings, I'm just telling na mas dumami siya kasi yung mga schools na may certain style or aesthetic, kahit di tugma, most likely may ganyan na din na building thanks to K-12
Kahit INC's NEU sa commonwealth ganyan itsura ng [highschool building,](https://64.media.tumblr.com/b7b094667f981027e42accc147ca05cd/tumblr_nogfjjx5uj1rwtcc5o3_1280.jpg) though much earlier ung construction niya kaysa sa College building pero 90's pa yung HS building don at ganon itsura
They always pay a new architect and engineers per project, hindi po ni-rereuse yung old plans. Iba't ibang lugar, iba't ibang situation, kaya iba't ibang plans.
Yan yung pinakamurang design, pinaka simple at functional kaya ganyan itsura.
Actually, the architects and engineers who design these are government employees din. They even prepare the list of materials that will be needed which then serves as the basis of the bidding for private contractors.
They're talking about the cost of conceptualizing, aechitecturally designing, and structurally ensuring that the design stands up.
They're not talking about the minor adjustments and site supervision.
I'm a civil engineer and iba ang sisingilin ko kung iba ibang itsura ng building tapos ako rin magdedesign, kesa dun sa same designs tapos i adapt ko lang sa site conditions.
In any case, ost school buildings are DPWH standard designs na pwede mo mahanap sa website nila. Wala ka na babayaran sa designer and diretso sa bidding na yan.
Yung corruption eh nakaka-karga na sa costing pa lang ng DPWH at wala nakukuha contractor dun.
I'm an Architect sir, kaya alam ko sya. Yes may mga standard design nga, pero once inapply mo kada lugar naiiba yung plano.
Hindi po basta basta ang pagaadapt ng design, kahit sa banyo pa lang, nagiiba na agad dami ng stalls sa dami ng students. Depende rin sa soil bearing capacity kung kaya ba mag 4 storey na school di ba?
Same size lagi ang classrooms, pero hindi same ng dami ng classrooms at hindi same lagi ng dami ng floors kada building so iba iba din ng computation ng structural engineer, Kaya hindi nakakatipid sa bayad sa professionals kahit mukang pare pareho itsura ng classrooms. Nakakatipid sya dahil sa design standards at simplicity ng design ng bawat public school.
Engineer vs Architect na dis. Im neutral kasi im both. Haha. It depends from project to project at client to client, yun na lang para walang away. Haha.
Architect naman talaga ang nag dedesign. Ang civil sa structural lang yan. Architect sa spaces. Kung engineer nag design ng school malamang usual nga lang design nyan. Pag archi nag design mas maganda, kasi yun naman talaga trabaho nila.
Nope. Mali namam kasi eh. Iba naman sinasabi nung sinagot nya na comment.
Syempre pag unique building, kahit sizes lang ng rooms yan, may design na mangyayari. Di naman kasi basta ilagay mo lang size ng room, ok na.
Pero ang concern here is copy paste buildings to save money. Wala ka nang idedesign.
Ipagpilitan ba naman na kailangan pa rin daw ng architect para pwede mag adjust basta ng rooms. Eh pano structural consideration nyan? Sino ang mawawalan ng lisensya pag bumagsak yan? Para lang magkaroon ng trabaho ang architect?
Yan yung sinasabi rin ni u/pheasantph sa baba.
>Ipagpilitan ba naman na kailangan pa rin daw ng architect para pwede mag adjust basta ng rooms. Eh pano structural consideration nyan? Sino ang mawawalan ng lisensya pag bumagsak yan? Para lang magkaroon ng trabaho ang architect?
Chill di maiitsapwera ang engineer, kasama pa rin kayo sa design.
I’m an architect and a contractor. The comment you are replying to is correct. While every project has a different architect-of-record (footed by the gencon usually), it’s the same design team from the DPWH that designs these before the bid out. These are ‘standardized’ to make it easier for the DPWH to cost them for budgeting and so they can churn out the plans faster. It only gets creative when the project implementation mode is design-build and if it’s a special project with other NGAs
Yes, pero iba ang charge pag designed from the ground up tapos iba lahat. Hindi ka naman siguro magdedesign ng libre ng unique na bahay, no?
Hindi rin naman ganun ka simple ang structural analysis ng ganito kalaking building.
I know what you're getting at pero hindi yan ang sinasabi ng nireplyan mo sa taas.
And mali ka in this instance kasi DPWH school buildings already has cookie cutter designs for buildings of different sizes. Sabi ko nga tingnan mo website nila. May 4-20 (4 storey, 20 classrooms) 4-12 (4 storey 12 classroms) etc. Wala ka na problema kundi implementation.
Edit: May iba na rin nagpoint out na DPWH schools buildings are standard copy paste. Walang trabaho designers dito.
Hindi lahat ng lot e parepareho sir. Sa lot configuration pa lang di na agad siguradong masusunod yang standards. Kaya need pa din ng architects and engineers to properly adapt yung standards sa requirements ng school sa isang lugar. Pwede pare pareho nga size ng classroom, pero yung overall floor plan nya gindi yan masisiguradong kamuka kada lugar. Parehas itsura ng design pero hindi parehas yungvfloor plan which is Architect ang gumagawa.
Sa structural naman kahit pare-pareho ng itsura, iba iba ng lumalabas sa calculation ng engineer yan depende rin sa floor plan at saan locsted mga columns. Kahit nga dalawang building na magkatabi hindi siguradong parehas ng laki ng pundasyon. Lahat yan kinocompute ng mga engineers. Di yan paulit ulit. Pwedeng lumaki pundasyon, pwedeng lumaki poste pwede dumami bakal, depende sa location din.
Example ko yung mga poste ng skyway. Akala mo ba isang compute lang sa isang poste yun at copy paste na sa lahat ng hundreds na poste? Hindi po yun ganun sir. Kaya po kumukuha lagi ng professionals para sigurado lagi sa ginagawa, hindi gumagawa ng copy paste ang professionals.
Hindi skyway or whatever pinaguusapan dito. LMAO!
DPWH schoolbuildings are copy paste and does not require tweaking for the sake of tweaking.
Tama yung nireplyan mo na kaya ganyan yang mga schools na yan is to save on the costly design process.
Whatever minor changes on the lots you need can easily be addressed by earthworks. Pero kung yun ang pinaglalaban mo na kailangan pa rin ng designers sa layout plan, then go. You win.
Lang? Pinagsasabi mo rin? Tao ang mga bata. Mga future nation builders at taxpayers pa. Kaya dapat lahat ng comfort at needs nila sa isang conducive learning environment binibigay natin. Di pwede basta lang magbuild ng magbuild na basta lang may magamit.
Copy pasting *designs,* may malaking pagkakaiba ang plans at design. Hindi mo pwedeng gawin na interchangable yung dalawa.
Di porket same design ang dalawang construction project ay magiging 1:1 replica ang plans ng mga yan, may consideration pa rin na gagawin ang civil engr. depende sa site na gagawan.
Plan is simply design on paper. What do you mean? Hindi talaga s’ya pwedeng interchangeable.
Ang design ay dapat solusyon sa problema ng isang lote. You cannot afford to have one plan and apply multiple designs to it. May akmang design sa bawat proyekto at hindi ito advisable ulitin dahil iba iba ang pangangailangan nito.
And for the record, wala akong damdaming masama sa mga CE, lalo na sa mga Structural Engineer. Di kami makaka-gawa ng bahay ng wala kayo.
These are school building designs that DPWH puts up EVERYWHERE. I don't know what you're insinuating pero hindi ito stealing plans without consent o kung ano.
They look similar because of the National Building Code standard, but don’t be mistaken that they are using the same plan on these buildings. Iba pa rin ng design yan, and they (DPWH) still have in-house architects designing this in a new fresh slate. I’m just insinuating that copy pasting of plans is a bad practice in the design and construction industry.
Lol. No. The structural members, dimensions of rooms, windows, etc. are the same.
Kung wala ka babaguhin sa loading, wala ka babaguhin sa design. Hindi ko alam pinaglalaban nyo. Kung lot plan lang kasi hindi kasya sa lupa, eh di go.
Nasa DPWH website na yung lahat ng design, ultimo turnilyo sa bubong. Ewan ko bat pinagpipilitan nyo na may babaguhin pa every time itatayo yan.
Wala ka babaguhin. Jusko lord.
Kung ano yung nakalagay sa DPWH, included na dun lahat LAHAT ng considerations. Lote ang babaguhin mo kung may problema.
Gets na?
Scam amputa. Nagtitipid nga kaya inuulit lang mga design para maraming budget, sasabihin mo scam.
May pa know nothing about ka pang nalalaman. Natingnan mo na ba yung mga plano sa website ng DPWH? bobo
Ano ineexpect mo? Pede na 20k sa architect? Tas isang architect lang babayaran mo sa isang mall? Underpaid na nga mga architect dito tas sasabihin nyo pa mahal. Pare pareho lang naman tayo nagttrabaho dito. May pera naman sila pampagawa yung mga developer, ayaw lang nila gumastos. Okay naman mga malls ng ayala pero di magawa ng sm kasi mahilig sila sa substandard
Uhm no,
Different project site = different fee
They all look the same kasi puro in house archi and engr mga yan na tamad mag design or walang alam sa pag design ng maganda.
True dyan ko tinapon yung bag ng classmate ko nung tinry niya akong i-bully, kakapasok ko lang ng school tapos kakagising ko lang nun kasi mejo late. Iyak siya eh.
DPWH standard yung school buildings, publicly available ang plans sa website nila. It lessens the cost in terms of design since talagang mahal ang design and analysis of structures.
Yep. IIRC those guidelines even contain details such as the specified colors for the painting of the different parts of the building such as structural members, walls, windows and doors of the school buildings. Kaya pati kulay parepareho lahat ng public school
This is true! May minimum standards and specifications na sinusunod for school
buildings kaya uniform ang mga itsura. Link below:
[DepEd School Building Specifications](https://www.deped.gov.ph/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/DO_s2017_064.pdf)
Naglalabasan yung mga architect sa taas, hindi matanggap na hindi sila kailangan kapag DPWH school buildings.
Nakaka irita kausap.
Edit: Design architects. Pwede naman site supervision eh sa architect kung hindi mataas ang ihi nila at tatanggapin nila yung trabahong yun. Otherwise, wala silang trabaho sa design ng DPWH school buildings kasi nga nadesign na yun.
Most of the schools have Gabaldon buildings named after Isauro Gabaldon which was designed by Arch. Willian Parsons during the American colonial period. Ito yung mga building na parang malalaking bahay kubo pero bahay na bato tapos karamihan may mga multo na pagala-gala XD
Yes the Gabaldon school designs are the timeless classic buildings,! Very fit sa tropical climate natin and are made of local materials (and too add has much more soul into). I know this has been a 100 year old design already pero sana eto ang in-adopt to the modern era using new technologies and materials (but of course tipid masyado gusto ng gobyerno natin)
That's cool! I've always wondered why they are called such. May Gabaldon building din kami sa province na ginagamit na parang dorm ng mga Student Teachers kapag mag-o-off campus teaching na sila.
They are the school equivalent of what's known as ["commie blocks"](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/commie_block)
Simple, functional, easy to mass produce designs, made with the finest concrete money can buy. Built to last longer than your lifetime.
It's what happens when you let engineers design everything without architects. Practically with almost no aesthetics.
Well to be fair, if we did the exact opposite and let architects design buildings without any input from engineers, you'd be lucky if they lasted a few months. You'd probably also get some crazy designs that looked like someone was high while designing buildings.
And then the Architect says the magic words "There are no bad designs, just incompetent engineers"
Which will then trigger the engineers to begrudgingly fix their design so as to not crumble, all the while the engineer is cursing several generations of the Architects family and future descendants.
>They are the school equivalent of what's known as ["commie blocks"](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/commie_block)
>
>Simple, functional, easy to mass produce designs, made with the finest concrete money can buy. Built to last longer than your lifetime.
While commie blocks, or *khrushchevka* , are justifiably less appealing than modern condos, but the state policy of the ussr is to eliminate homelessness which was a massive problem post ww2 due to wartime destruction and the increasing urban population that flocks to employment in cities.
*Khrushchevka* apartments quickly and cheaply filled that housing demand. Also important to note that it's not unique to the USSR. Other government housing projects are similar.in nature, like Japanese *Danchi* which are also meant to be an affordable alternative to private housing.
Now contrast that to Philippines policies regarding housing and the housing crisis we currently have.
Also the negative depictions of commie blocks arw almost always from the post-collapse Russia..many commie blocls are past their designated lifetime. That's why it looks crumbling, because it is and the new Russian state is less concerned with providing housing for the masses so the old khrushchevkas were kept in use instead of building new ones. After all, housing is a commodity instead of a right under capitalism.
Tatagal din naman yan kasi may engineering science din sa curriculum mga architect. Yung mga engineer wala naman sila design sa curriculum pero ang kapal ng mukha mang agaw ng trabaho.
May na-trigger na core memory ko about the bags huhu. 4th grade, hinagis ng bully ko yung penmanship book ko sa bintana, and landed dyan sa similar area sa bintama. Walang paki mga classmates, and some laughed at me. Ended up getting a 79 kasi wala akong mai-present na book the entire year. Didn't complain sa teach, kasi baka lalo ako ma-bully.
Funny enough, na-recover ng housekeeping yung book ko during summer after ng SY, nung naglinis sila sa area na yun. Hay.
Cheaper. You don't need an architect to get them designed. Less materials. Faster to build too. May standard na din kase sa building code and other laws. Those existing plans and design from the 1990s are easier to follow than try to make a new one. This is the same din for barangay halls, small provincial hospitals etc.
Hopefully lang, kahit na pare-pareho yung style ng building, kino-consider pa rin yung orientation ng gusali para hindi diretso afternoon sun yung isang side. Mainiti kasi sa classroom kung ganoon.
You still need an architect to lay out the standard sizes of class rooms and facilities in context to the site. However kaya siya nagkakamuka kasi walang silang budget to play with the aesthetics and amenities. You pretty much end up with a colored concrete box.
Bat mo gagalawin sizes ng rooms? Eh di nagalaw rin ang loading, structural members. That defeats the purpose. Susko.
Hindi pagandahan ang labanan, kulang na nga sa schools, lalagyan mo pa ng budget para sa kaartehan.
Tama na yung lot plan na lang.
EDIT: Akala nyo ba hindi dumaan sa architect yung standard designs ng DPWH? Bakit ba ang dami dami nyong nagpupumilit makisawsaw na may gagawin pa rin ang architect sa DPWH schools?
Punong puno ng pareparehong sentimyento sa thread na ito. Susko.
Not really. My university had this and madaming cases na tumatalob sa students. These are mainly made for shade from sun and rain. Pero wala masyadong analysis sa mga government buildings kaya di gaano kaeffective yung shading effect niya.
Magkakaiba kaya, merong "Mayor Kups type building" "Anak ng dating mayor na mayor na ngayon type building" and "Cong. Kups na dating mayor type building".
How da hell would we ignore the bags???????
Why is it there? How is it there? How they gon get it back?? Why do the two bags there look like they are dating????
DPWH kasi ang nagdesign dyan na kahit makamura pa ang DepEd sa architectural at structural designs, pero dahil nga standardized na walang puwang masyado para sa isang school na i-customize ang architectural at structural designs, madaling masira ang kisame o mabuklas ang roof kung magbagyo o kaya mag-crack kung may lindol. Ang worse pa kung ang window ay naka jalouise na puede mabasag o nakawan ng estudiante o kawatan.
The same answers have alr come up na, pero gusto ko idagdag na:
Sa probinsya ang isang classroom nagkakahalaga ng 10 million and substandard pa. Hahaha.
Manila city will have modern skyscraper like design sa pagpapagawa ng new Ramon Magsaysay HS. It would be interesting if gagayahin din sya ng ibang LGUs.
My guess is that the design is much "simple and cheap". Noong junior high school nga ako ay ganyan din yung design nung mga bagong ginawa doon(para sa Grade 11 at 12), pero yung mga dati nang nandoon ay iba yung design. At sa mga ibang schools na napuntahan ko(lahat ay public high schools) dati ay ganyan rin yung design.
Tapos naging usap-usapan pa dahil, for some reason, ay may nakikita raw na mga multo doon sa loob nung mga 2nd floor rooms nung mga bagong building tuwing gabi.🤣🤣
May naganyan samin eh haha. Mahaba yung tali kaya pinaikot pa nila yung lubid sa ibang upuan. Limang upuan ata yung nasama pag kuha nya ng bag nya haha.
Tangina HAHAHAHA. Tas minsan din itatali mo yung bag nung isa mong classmate dun sa crush niya. (Ginagawa naman namin to kapag nasa sahig lang lahat ng bag.)
Ibalik niyo kami sa mga panahong nagbubuhol lang kami ng tali ng bag lol
to save money and time siguro. okay lang baguhin yong shape ng windows, doors, railings, etc. pero kung structural design na pag uusapan, time consuming din tsaka magastos. pwede mas mapamahal sa material costing kapag nagpalit ka ng size ng footings/columns/beams. pwede naman macompromise ang safety kung liliitan. hihina yong structure.
Also to save money from designing(no need to get engrs/arkis to draft new plans for every school bldg constructed). You can actually look up all the architectural and structural plans on the DPWH website. The only differences for each building constructed is the foundation of course kasi hindi naman parepareho lahat ng lupa sa Pilipinas.
School buildings are usually designed the same. Large windows on the outside spanning the length of the entire wall. Even in private schools… since the 80s and possibly earlier. Allows air to pass through, keeping the rooms cool without airconditioning.
Architect here. May design guidelines (dsg) kasi si dpwh na sinusunod namin (sometimes/most if the time engineers). These buildings are simple and cheap to build since it requires simple post and lintel construction. Public schools din kasi na you see naman in terms of colors (yellow/beige walls + green roof) kasi its easier to distinguish an institutional area.
Not only facade but also the classrooms. Typical load to hold certain students lang but of course sa ibang sense kulang talaga ang room-student ratio.
TLDR: DPWH standard. Cheap. Easier and faster to build
May DEPed standard pero, kung idedesign talga ang mga public school with the vision ng architect eh magaganda school natin.
Problem 1- Mostly engr na nag dedesign ng mga school copy paste nalang sa standard kasi dnaman daw kelangan ng architect kasi kaya nila daw trabaho ng arkitek. DPWH na kasi nag desesign ng mga school.
Problem 2- ayaw nila gandahan kahit malaki budget sa mga school building dahil gusto nila nas mura i construction para mas malaki ang kick back. Pre- arranged na lagi ang bidding so laging under the table
They're just following the basic guidelines for designing schools. Although, I really wish they would update the specifications na leaning more towards psychological architecture (given na grabe ang mental health talaga ng mga bata these days), sustainability, and medyo catching up sa technology. (e.g QR code ID & attendance, less chalk usage and use of sustainable ink for refillable markers, better ventilation--less usage of electric fans and more on natural ventilation, same goes with lighting.. and so on).
edit: im actually against schools requiring students to bring cartolinas, papers, etc na gagamitin lang to clutter the whole classroom. We should be using less paper by now tbh.
standardized design. So that all schools in the entire country only used a single blueprint. therefore cutting cost. Probably the same reason why GSIS buildings around the country are mostly looked the same.
But IMO the design is 💩 for me.
para pag umuulan, di dadaloy sa bintana ang tubig ulin which in turn papasok sa classroom.. nakalimutan ko ang tawag jan nung mga trabajante ko nung nagpagawa ako ng gusali
DPWH "template" yan... usually din kasi yung budget na binibigay para sa public structures eh kulang (alams na kung san napupunta) so kung gusto mo talaga mag design ng bago mahirap din i implement kung kulang pera baka sa tagal na darating yung second phase budget eh ilang taon na at ma "chopsuey" ang design based sa gusto ng end users... kaya mas okay na gamitin yung "template" para kahit di matapos kaagad ng buo eh mas madali na i resume. Standards yung sizes mga yan for 50 students per room tapos always mai stairwell on both ends ng hallway for safety.
Para walang inggitan :) I am not sure, baka may standard na sinusunod ang mga taga bigay ng permit. In some countries, pare pareho din ang design ng mga schools nila specially pag public schools.
We call those buildings PAGCORs (because they were donated by PAGCOR). I don't if these are also donated by PAGCOR but if they were, it would explain why they all look the same.
either kasi sobrang basic ng design so they all looks similar,
OR
galing sa iisang design lahat ng building, i.e. galing sa deped or dpwh or whatever yung blue print and they just send the design to the winning construction company para di need magbayad ng design everytime may magpapaconstruct ng public school.
sidenote tho
WHAT DO YOU MEAN IGNORE THE BAGS
I think design cost. The design is always utilitarian in nature and they're really targeting no frills design. Just a spacious room, a corridor and basic windows. Thats it
Salamat sa paginform na ignore yung bags kasi naging part siya ng thought process ko hahahaha. Pero dapat aysuin yung mga schools natin, nagmumukhang preso lalo na pag nasa urban areas. I’ve been to Panglao recentyl and ang ganda ng schools nila, in a sense na ang open ng area nila
unlike in the US, schools in the philippines (or atleast public schools) are budget oriented, mga donated for the sake of donation ung karamihan ng schools sa pinas kaya may malaking sign na nagpapasalamat kay gobernador/a or nagpapasalamat sa SM.
given the current issues we have in classroom, its preferable to have a copy paste design for easy mass produced than to be try hard making the most aesthetically pleasing one if we wanted to resolve the lack of classrooms\~
Can hear the masungit na adviser/level coordinator running to ask:SINO ANG MAY GAWA NIYAN? DI KAYO UUWI HANGGA'T HINDI NIYO SINASABI!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Also, uniform design para "no school left behind"
Tbh naiinis ako sa ganyan kasi nagiging bland at nawawalan ng personality ang school. Maybe because of functionality (?) I don't know.
Nakakapanlumo na yung dati kong school nung elementary and high school kahit ang aayos pa ng mga building although old, ginigiba nila just to build these generic buildings. Nawawalan tuloy ng history yung school. Pwede naman nila irenovate.
Karamihan din ng mga schools sa asia parehas din design ng mga school. Usually mga elementary to high school and lalo na pag public schools (or governments schools).
Merong prescribed design ng schools ang dpwh. One time naghahanap ako ng standard toilet to student ratio, ang nahanap ko ay floor plan at elevations ng toilet ng schools natin.
para uniform ang itsura ng school buildings all over the country. Also like others pointed out, it might be to satisfy the building code or cost efficient reasons.
Nag OJT ako sa isang gencon company na DPWH ang client. May standard talaga DPWH, same aesthetic pero sa structural nagkakaiba and yung shape ng building. Kunwari, malapit sa dagat yung loc ng school. Mas maraming bakal at mas malaking size ganon. Mas maliit property line, dadagdagan ng floors. Less costs sa design.
ask lang, bakit ang panget ng itsura ng "standard design"? kung gagawa na din lang naman bakit hindi pa gandahan kahit konti? kasi ang panget ng pintura, ang huna ng bintana, pati yung mismong design ng building
Sa school namin may ganyan na itsura naala ko sa labas ng building namin yung mga binbtana na ganyan tapos sa loob na may aircon at ceiling fan sa loob ng highschool sa Holy Spirit School sa Ilang-Ilang Street
Design and efficiency wise Yan na gmit nila I think sa sobrang daling Gawin Ng ganyan design pwede mo Gawin in all if not most land spaces d na need mag chk maxado
naaalala ko nung HS ako, nagkasunog sa PNHS Main. dian lumabas yung ibang students tapos tumalon sa panic. ewan ko kung ano pumasok sa isip nila bat sila tumungtong dian sa nakausli na semento na yan at ginawa yan na fire escape even though marami naman fire escape yung main building. hahaha
wala pong namatay sa kanila pero may mga napilayan dun sa mga tumalon.
Archi here, walang hinahire na arch yan. Look at those private schools. Do they look like the same? Contractors create such ultra basic schemes to be functional, and maximize their profit. Kasi pag hinaluan ng creativity ng archi yan, panibagong computation ng structural yan, mechanical, plumbing, electrical, and so fort.
So kung meron man na makkitang unique na design from public schools, un ay donated ng isang politician -- which is not really donated, but really comes from taxpayers money. So parang nag laan lang ng mas marami for that building. Tapos ilalagay nila dyan donated by whom.
because its simple and functional. nag aral ako private school pero parang mga loteng bahay na subd. lang. naiingit ako sa public school kase may 2nd floor sila HAHA
for some reason yung PPP funded building sa former High School ko is nagdevelop agad ng major cracks and damages and rare naman ang earthquakes and I think wala pa siyang 5 years since they appear. 🤧
Easy answer: Para 2-3 designs lang ang originally na kailangan, and easily adaptable throughout the country. Pagpublic namn, hinde namn kailangan na state of the art and unique bawat isang eskwelahan eh. They're also efficient.
Uniform design para makatipid dapat
Ever since naman isa lang talaga design ng eskwela
Look at those schools built during the americans (kung meron pa or pictures pag giniba na) they are all the same from aparri to jolo. Pinag kaiba lang, how many rooms or how high
It was built kasi kinonsider nila flooding
Then after the war, they call it prefab. Eto talaga, alam mo na na lahat isa lang pinanggalingan ng mataryales at design. Lahat ng room may kubeta pero teacher lang gumagamit.
Then panahon ni makoy, may variation konti pero either concrete or semi concrete but lahat ng govt buildings parang mga eskwela, mga clinic, mga NIA offices etc
Same
Hate ns hate ko yung casement windows na madaming grilles (at pare parehong gawa sa cheap iron) sa mgs eskwelahan at yung feeling na parang preso sa loob ng classrom kasi limited yung view towards the outside. Not a conducive learning environment talaga
Because it is the most basic and functional (school-wise) design which will pass Philippine building code standards.
Also most efficient design
It’s also most likely because of the implementation of K-12, DepEd has built these cream and green buildings in every public high school. This is most evident in my HS where the school’s color is clearly Brown/Maroon aesthetic, and after the K-12 implementation there popped up 3 of these buildings.
Matagal na ung ganyan design, kahit nung panahon namin ganyan na.
Yup, most local high schools in my city had always had those buildings, I'm just telling na mas dumami siya kasi yung mga schools na may certain style or aesthetic, kahit di tugma, most likely may ganyan na din na building thanks to K-12
Kahit INC's NEU sa commonwealth ganyan itsura ng [highschool building,](https://64.media.tumblr.com/b7b094667f981027e42accc147ca05cd/tumblr_nogfjjx5uj1rwtcc5o3_1280.jpg) though much earlier ung construction niya kaysa sa College building pero 90's pa yung HS building don at ganon itsura
New Era High School po kasi yun. Iba pa yung high school building ng New Era University.
That doesn't make sense, lol. Like, anong connect?
I think it’s also to save money. New design means paying another architect and designer. Using just the same design fixes that issue.
Ang cute hahaha. Considering na ang hilig nila sa overpriced Laptop at DLSR Camera. 🤡
Same thing. Having a “standard” design means “uniform” din yung pag-overprice sa construction cost.😁
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Not everyone in the government wants to make a quick buck. Most of them just want to do their jobs in the most efficient and straightforward manner.
They always pay a new architect and engineers per project, hindi po ni-rereuse yung old plans. Iba't ibang lugar, iba't ibang situation, kaya iba't ibang plans. Yan yung pinakamurang design, pinaka simple at functional kaya ganyan itsura.
Actually, the architects and engineers who design these are government employees din. They even prepare the list of materials that will be needed which then serves as the basis of the bidding for private contractors.
Yes. Bill of materials and plans come from DPWH. Those are part of requirements when proposing capital outlay projects sa govt
They're talking about the cost of conceptualizing, aechitecturally designing, and structurally ensuring that the design stands up. They're not talking about the minor adjustments and site supervision. I'm a civil engineer and iba ang sisingilin ko kung iba ibang itsura ng building tapos ako rin magdedesign, kesa dun sa same designs tapos i adapt ko lang sa site conditions. In any case, ost school buildings are DPWH standard designs na pwede mo mahanap sa website nila. Wala ka na babayaran sa designer and diretso sa bidding na yan. Yung corruption eh nakaka-karga na sa costing pa lang ng DPWH at wala nakukuha contractor dun.
I'm an Architect sir, kaya alam ko sya. Yes may mga standard design nga, pero once inapply mo kada lugar naiiba yung plano. Hindi po basta basta ang pagaadapt ng design, kahit sa banyo pa lang, nagiiba na agad dami ng stalls sa dami ng students. Depende rin sa soil bearing capacity kung kaya ba mag 4 storey na school di ba? Same size lagi ang classrooms, pero hindi same ng dami ng classrooms at hindi same lagi ng dami ng floors kada building so iba iba din ng computation ng structural engineer, Kaya hindi nakakatipid sa bayad sa professionals kahit mukang pare pareho itsura ng classrooms. Nakakatipid sya dahil sa design standards at simplicity ng design ng bawat public school.
Engineer vs Architect na dis. Im neutral kasi im both. Haha. It depends from project to project at client to client, yun na lang para walang away. Haha.
The age old rivalry between Architects and Engineers.
Architect naman talaga ang nag dedesign. Ang civil sa structural lang yan. Architect sa spaces. Kung engineer nag design ng school malamang usual nga lang design nyan. Pag archi nag design mas maganda, kasi yun naman talaga trabaho nila.
Nope. Mali namam kasi eh. Iba naman sinasabi nung sinagot nya na comment. Syempre pag unique building, kahit sizes lang ng rooms yan, may design na mangyayari. Di naman kasi basta ilagay mo lang size ng room, ok na. Pero ang concern here is copy paste buildings to save money. Wala ka nang idedesign. Ipagpilitan ba naman na kailangan pa rin daw ng architect para pwede mag adjust basta ng rooms. Eh pano structural consideration nyan? Sino ang mawawalan ng lisensya pag bumagsak yan? Para lang magkaroon ng trabaho ang architect? Yan yung sinasabi rin ni u/pheasantph sa baba.
>Ipagpilitan ba naman na kailangan pa rin daw ng architect para pwede mag adjust basta ng rooms. Eh pano structural consideration nyan? Sino ang mawawalan ng lisensya pag bumagsak yan? Para lang magkaroon ng trabaho ang architect? Chill di maiitsapwera ang engineer, kasama pa rin kayo sa design.
And like I said, sino ba mahahassle pag binago basta basta ang sizes ng rooms? Buti sana kung architect rin mag structural analysis.
I’m an architect and a contractor. The comment you are replying to is correct. While every project has a different architect-of-record (footed by the gencon usually), it’s the same design team from the DPWH that designs these before the bid out. These are ‘standardized’ to make it easier for the DPWH to cost them for budgeting and so they can churn out the plans faster. It only gets creative when the project implementation mode is design-build and if it’s a special project with other NGAs
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Yes, pero iba ang charge pag designed from the ground up tapos iba lahat. Hindi ka naman siguro magdedesign ng libre ng unique na bahay, no? Hindi rin naman ganun ka simple ang structural analysis ng ganito kalaking building. I know what you're getting at pero hindi yan ang sinasabi ng nireplyan mo sa taas. And mali ka in this instance kasi DPWH school buildings already has cookie cutter designs for buildings of different sizes. Sabi ko nga tingnan mo website nila. May 4-20 (4 storey, 20 classrooms) 4-12 (4 storey 12 classroms) etc. Wala ka na problema kundi implementation. Edit: May iba na rin nagpoint out na DPWH schools buildings are standard copy paste. Walang trabaho designers dito.
Hindi lahat ng lot e parepareho sir. Sa lot configuration pa lang di na agad siguradong masusunod yang standards. Kaya need pa din ng architects and engineers to properly adapt yung standards sa requirements ng school sa isang lugar. Pwede pare pareho nga size ng classroom, pero yung overall floor plan nya gindi yan masisiguradong kamuka kada lugar. Parehas itsura ng design pero hindi parehas yungvfloor plan which is Architect ang gumagawa. Sa structural naman kahit pare-pareho ng itsura, iba iba ng lumalabas sa calculation ng engineer yan depende rin sa floor plan at saan locsted mga columns. Kahit nga dalawang building na magkatabi hindi siguradong parehas ng laki ng pundasyon. Lahat yan kinocompute ng mga engineers. Di yan paulit ulit. Pwedeng lumaki pundasyon, pwedeng lumaki poste pwede dumami bakal, depende sa location din. Example ko yung mga poste ng skyway. Akala mo ba isang compute lang sa isang poste yun at copy paste na sa lahat ng hundreds na poste? Hindi po yun ganun sir. Kaya po kumukuha lagi ng professionals para sigurado lagi sa ginagawa, hindi gumagawa ng copy paste ang professionals.
Hindi skyway or whatever pinaguusapan dito. LMAO! DPWH schoolbuildings are copy paste and does not require tweaking for the sake of tweaking. Tama yung nireplyan mo na kaya ganyan yang mga schools na yan is to save on the costly design process. Whatever minor changes on the lots you need can easily be addressed by earthworks. Pero kung yun ang pinaglalaban mo na kailangan pa rin ng designers sa layout plan, then go. You win.
DPWH pala walang pake sa nararamdaman ng mga users ng building. Disregarded yung population size and growth, culture, climate, and environment.
Pinagsasabi mo dyan? School building lang to.
Lang? Pinagsasabi mo rin? Tao ang mga bata. Mga future nation builders at taxpayers pa. Kaya dapat lahat ng comfort at needs nila sa isang conducive learning environment binibigay natin. Di pwede basta lang magbuild ng magbuild na basta lang may magamit.
Pitikin mo nga sa tenga o
Civil Engineer + copy pasting plans? Obviously bad practice yan. Sketchy af. 🙃
Copy pasting *designs,* may malaking pagkakaiba ang plans at design. Hindi mo pwedeng gawin na interchangable yung dalawa. Di porket same design ang dalawang construction project ay magiging 1:1 replica ang plans ng mga yan, may consideration pa rin na gagawin ang civil engr. depende sa site na gagawan.
Plan is simply design on paper. What do you mean? Hindi talaga s’ya pwedeng interchangeable. Ang design ay dapat solusyon sa problema ng isang lote. You cannot afford to have one plan and apply multiple designs to it. May akmang design sa bawat proyekto at hindi ito advisable ulitin dahil iba iba ang pangangailangan nito. And for the record, wala akong damdaming masama sa mga CE, lalo na sa mga Structural Engineer. Di kami makaka-gawa ng bahay ng wala kayo.
These are school building designs that DPWH puts up EVERYWHERE. I don't know what you're insinuating pero hindi ito stealing plans without consent o kung ano.
They look similar because of the National Building Code standard, but don’t be mistaken that they are using the same plan on these buildings. Iba pa rin ng design yan, and they (DPWH) still have in-house architects designing this in a new fresh slate. I’m just insinuating that copy pasting of plans is a bad practice in the design and construction industry.
Lol. No. The structural members, dimensions of rooms, windows, etc. are the same. Kung wala ka babaguhin sa loading, wala ka babaguhin sa design. Hindi ko alam pinaglalaban nyo. Kung lot plan lang kasi hindi kasya sa lupa, eh di go. Nasa DPWH website na yung lahat ng design, ultimo turnilyo sa bubong. Ewan ko bat pinagpipilitan nyo na may babaguhin pa every time itatayo yan.
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Wala ka babaguhin. Jusko lord. Kung ano yung nakalagay sa DPWH, included na dun lahat LAHAT ng considerations. Lote ang babaguhin mo kung may problema. Gets na? Scam amputa. Nagtitipid nga kaya inuulit lang mga design para maraming budget, sasabihin mo scam. May pa know nothing about ka pang nalalaman. Natingnan mo na ba yung mga plano sa website ng DPWH? bobo
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Oh thanks for clarifying. Always thought it the same with some housing dev na slightly modified lang to cut costs.
Sounds like different construction companies will gravitate to a certain design kung mayroong standards na sinusundan.
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Ano ineexpect mo? Pede na 20k sa architect? Tas isang architect lang babayaran mo sa isang mall? Underpaid na nga mga architect dito tas sasabihin nyo pa mahal. Pare pareho lang naman tayo nagttrabaho dito. May pera naman sila pampagawa yung mga developer, ayaw lang nila gumastos. Okay naman mga malls ng ayala pero di magawa ng sm kasi mahilig sila sa substandard
Uhm no, Different project site = different fee They all look the same kasi puro in house archi and engr mga yan na tamad mag design or walang alam sa pag design ng maganda.
Not really, you will pay for design fee per location not per design
Para may lalagyan talaga ng bag kaya ganyan ang design.
yan talaga purpose nyan, advance magisip architect
True dyan ko tinapon yung bag ng classmate ko nung tinry niya akong i-bully, kakapasok ko lang ng school tapos kakagising ko lang nun kasi mejo late. Iyak siya eh.
can't ignore the bags, ang sweet nila.
Maghapon din maghahanap yung mga may ari nyan
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Turns out sila din pala maghahanapan sa huli
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Di pwede. Nakatago rin yung baril eh
romcom plot ata yan
Sa batch namin sapatos lang tinatago, improved na ngayon ah.
maya mo nyan, tinago na, may hollow blocks pa.
its a prank the prank:
Tapos may hollow blocks
It even deserves more of the attention that what the caption intends.
Trueliie
DPWH standard yung school buildings, publicly available ang plans sa website nila. It lessens the cost in terms of design since talagang mahal ang design and analysis of structures.
Yep. IIRC those guidelines even contain details such as the specified colors for the painting of the different parts of the building such as structural members, walls, windows and doors of the school buildings. Kaya pati kulay parepareho lahat ng public school
This is true! May minimum standards and specifications na sinusunod for school buildings kaya uniform ang mga itsura. Link below: [DepEd School Building Specifications](https://www.deped.gov.ph/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/DO_s2017_064.pdf)
Naglalabasan yung mga architect sa taas, hindi matanggap na hindi sila kailangan kapag DPWH school buildings. Nakaka irita kausap. Edit: Design architects. Pwede naman site supervision eh sa architect kung hindi mataas ang ihi nila at tatanggapin nila yung trabahong yun. Otherwise, wala silang trabaho sa design ng DPWH school buildings kasi nga nadesign na yun.
Yep, tapos meron pang naka specify kung ilang tables o students lang dapat per room, na for sure hindi na nasusunod sa ilang public schools
Can't find the plans. Can you link it to me pls? 🥺🥺🥺
[Standard Design Plans for School Building](https://www.dpwh.gov.ph/DPWH/references/standard_design/school_buildings)
Most of the schools have Gabaldon buildings named after Isauro Gabaldon which was designed by Arch. Willian Parsons during the American colonial period. Ito yung mga building na parang malalaking bahay kubo pero bahay na bato tapos karamihan may mga multo na pagala-gala XD
Parang Gabaldon building din ata pinaka-matatag, hah hah. Yung sa elem. school namin buhay pa.
Yes the Gabaldon school designs are the timeless classic buildings,! Very fit sa tropical climate natin and are made of local materials (and too add has much more soul into). I know this has been a 100 year old design already pero sana eto ang in-adopt to the modern era using new technologies and materials (but of course tipid masyado gusto ng gobyerno natin)
ganda siguro ng modern gabaldon hane
Gigachad Gabaldon supremacy
That's cool! I've always wondered why they are called such. May Gabaldon building din kami sa province na ginagamit na parang dorm ng mga Student Teachers kapag mag-o-off campus teaching na sila.
I think may umiyak na naman kasi tinago ung bag nila.
They are the school equivalent of what's known as ["commie blocks"](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/commie_block) Simple, functional, easy to mass produce designs, made with the finest concrete money can buy. Built to last longer than your lifetime. It's what happens when you let engineers design everything without architects. Practically with almost no aesthetics. Well to be fair, if we did the exact opposite and let architects design buildings without any input from engineers, you'd be lucky if they lasted a few months. You'd probably also get some crazy designs that looked like someone was high while designing buildings. And then the Architect says the magic words "There are no bad designs, just incompetent engineers" Which will then trigger the engineers to begrudgingly fix their design so as to not crumble, all the while the engineer is cursing several generations of the Architects family and future descendants.
>They are the school equivalent of what's known as ["commie blocks"](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/commie_block) > >Simple, functional, easy to mass produce designs, made with the finest concrete money can buy. Built to last longer than your lifetime. While commie blocks, or *khrushchevka* , are justifiably less appealing than modern condos, but the state policy of the ussr is to eliminate homelessness which was a massive problem post ww2 due to wartime destruction and the increasing urban population that flocks to employment in cities. *Khrushchevka* apartments quickly and cheaply filled that housing demand. Also important to note that it's not unique to the USSR. Other government housing projects are similar.in nature, like Japanese *Danchi* which are also meant to be an affordable alternative to private housing. Now contrast that to Philippines policies regarding housing and the housing crisis we currently have. Also the negative depictions of commie blocks arw almost always from the post-collapse Russia..many commie blocls are past their designated lifetime. That's why it looks crumbling, because it is and the new Russian state is less concerned with providing housing for the masses so the old khrushchevkas were kept in use instead of building new ones. After all, housing is a commodity instead of a right under capitalism.
Tatagal din naman yan kasi may engineering science din sa curriculum mga architect. Yung mga engineer wala naman sila design sa curriculum pero ang kapal ng mukha mang agaw ng trabaho.
May na-trigger na core memory ko about the bags huhu. 4th grade, hinagis ng bully ko yung penmanship book ko sa bintana, and landed dyan sa similar area sa bintama. Walang paki mga classmates, and some laughed at me. Ended up getting a 79 kasi wala akong mai-present na book the entire year. Didn't complain sa teach, kasi baka lalo ako ma-bully. Funny enough, na-recover ng housekeeping yung book ko during summer after ng SY, nung naglinis sila sa area na yun. Hay.
Cheaper. You don't need an architect to get them designed. Less materials. Faster to build too. May standard na din kase sa building code and other laws. Those existing plans and design from the 1990s are easier to follow than try to make a new one. This is the same din for barangay halls, small provincial hospitals etc.
Hopefully lang, kahit na pare-pareho yung style ng building, kino-consider pa rin yung orientation ng gusali para hindi diretso afternoon sun yung isang side. Mainiti kasi sa classroom kung ganoon.
You still need an architect to lay out the standard sizes of class rooms and facilities in context to the site. However kaya siya nagkakamuka kasi walang silang budget to play with the aesthetics and amenities. You pretty much end up with a colored concrete box.
Bat mo gagalawin sizes ng rooms? Eh di nagalaw rin ang loading, structural members. That defeats the purpose. Susko. Hindi pagandahan ang labanan, kulang na nga sa schools, lalagyan mo pa ng budget para sa kaartehan. Tama na yung lot plan na lang. EDIT: Akala nyo ba hindi dumaan sa architect yung standard designs ng DPWH? Bakit ba ang dami dami nyong nagpupumilit makisawsaw na may gagawin pa rin ang architect sa DPWH schools? Punong puno ng pareparehong sentimyento sa thread na ito. Susko.
Yeapp, parang base na nila yung existing tapos conform na lang sa actual site
The ledges are supposed to prevent people from falling off the building (and also serves as shade from sunlight/rain below).
Not really. My university had this and madaming cases na tumatalob sa students. These are mainly made for shade from sun and rain. Pero wala masyadong analysis sa mga government buildings kaya di gaano kaeffective yung shading effect niya.
With how bad the education crisis is, how the school is designed is the least of our problems
I mean school design is also necessary to create a proper learning environment
True but “proper learning environment” encompasses many factors, not just the physical classroom.
Magkakaiba kaya, merong "Mayor Kups type building" "Anak ng dating mayor na mayor na ngayon type building" and "Cong. Kups na dating mayor type building".
at saka yung President Kups type building, ang pinaka OG.
How da hell would we ignore the bags??????? Why is it there? How is it there? How they gon get it back?? Why do the two bags there look like they are dating????
Looks decent to me.
Ganyan ginagawq namin dati kapag may surprise inspection noon na bawal magdala ng cellphone sa school.
Cheap & legal design.
DPWH kasi ang nagdesign dyan na kahit makamura pa ang DepEd sa architectural at structural designs, pero dahil nga standardized na walang puwang masyado para sa isang school na i-customize ang architectural at structural designs, madaling masira ang kisame o mabuklas ang roof kung magbagyo o kaya mag-crack kung may lindol. Ang worse pa kung ang window ay naka jalouise na puede mabasag o nakawan ng estudiante o kawatan.
The same answers have alr come up na, pero gusto ko idagdag na: Sa probinsya ang isang classroom nagkakahalaga ng 10 million and substandard pa. Hahaha.
Manila city will have modern skyscraper like design sa pagpapagawa ng new Ramon Magsaysay HS. It would be interesting if gagayahin din sya ng ibang LGUs.
"Ignore the bags" HOW COULD I
My guess is that the design is much "simple and cheap". Noong junior high school nga ako ay ganyan din yung design nung mga bagong ginawa doon(para sa Grade 11 at 12), pero yung mga dati nang nandoon ay iba yung design. At sa mga ibang schools na napuntahan ko(lahat ay public high schools) dati ay ganyan rin yung design. Tapos naging usap-usapan pa dahil, for some reason, ay may nakikita raw na mga multo doon sa loob nung mga 2nd floor rooms nung mga bagong building tuwing gabi.🤣🤣
Bakit nga ba may bags? Not 1 but 2 tapos maayos pa pagkakalagay
napagtripan. uso yung ganyan, taguan ng bag. hampasan ng bag lalo sa public school tuwing vacant hours.
Maglalagay pa ng bunot sa bag.
O kaya yung itatali yung bag sa upuan para pag kinuha, kasama yung armchair. ~~Harmless prank to na ginagawa ko dati hehe~~
May naganyan samin eh haha. Mahaba yung tali kaya pinaikot pa nila yung lubid sa ibang upuan. Limang upuan ata yung nasama pag kuha nya ng bag nya haha.
Tangina HAHAHAHA. Tas minsan din itatali mo yung bag nung isa mong classmate dun sa crush niya. (Ginagawa naman namin to kapag nasa sahig lang lahat ng bag.) Ibalik niyo kami sa mga panahong nagbubuhol lang kami ng tali ng bag lol
Tangina i remember yung school ko ng elementary, may isang buong upuan na kahoy(usual upuan with armdesk ofc) sa labas ng bintana HAHAH
Para may tambayan yung white lady pag napagod sya manakot. Charot
Para may matataguan ng bag
Now I'm curious how did they manage to put those bags outside? Walang halos laman? Also haba haba ng arms ah! Sungkit mode!
to save money and time siguro. okay lang baguhin yong shape ng windows, doors, railings, etc. pero kung structural design na pag uusapan, time consuming din tsaka magastos. pwede mas mapamahal sa material costing kapag nagpalit ka ng size ng footings/columns/beams. pwede naman macompromise ang safety kung liliitan. hihina yong structure.
Also to save money from designing(no need to get engrs/arkis to draft new plans for every school bldg constructed). You can actually look up all the architectural and structural plans on the DPWH website. The only differences for each building constructed is the foundation of course kasi hindi naman parepareho lahat ng lupa sa Pilipinas.
School buildings are usually designed the same. Large windows on the outside spanning the length of the entire wall. Even in private schools… since the 80s and possibly earlier. Allows air to pass through, keeping the rooms cool without airconditioning.
Architect here. May design guidelines (dsg) kasi si dpwh na sinusunod namin (sometimes/most if the time engineers). These buildings are simple and cheap to build since it requires simple post and lintel construction. Public schools din kasi na you see naman in terms of colors (yellow/beige walls + green roof) kasi its easier to distinguish an institutional area. Not only facade but also the classrooms. Typical load to hold certain students lang but of course sa ibang sense kulang talaga ang room-student ratio. TLDR: DPWH standard. Cheap. Easier and faster to build
May DEPed standard pero, kung idedesign talga ang mga public school with the vision ng architect eh magaganda school natin. Problem 1- Mostly engr na nag dedesign ng mga school copy paste nalang sa standard kasi dnaman daw kelangan ng architect kasi kaya nila daw trabaho ng arkitek. DPWH na kasi nag desesign ng mga school. Problem 2- ayaw nila gandahan kahit malaki budget sa mga school building dahil gusto nila nas mura i construction para mas malaki ang kick back. Pre- arranged na lagi ang bidding so laging under the table
Okay but how can I ignore the bags? All my highschool memories came flooding back nung nakita ko yung bags ;-;
They're just following the basic guidelines for designing schools. Although, I really wish they would update the specifications na leaning more towards psychological architecture (given na grabe ang mental health talaga ng mga bata these days), sustainability, and medyo catching up sa technology. (e.g QR code ID & attendance, less chalk usage and use of sustainable ink for refillable markers, better ventilation--less usage of electric fans and more on natural ventilation, same goes with lighting.. and so on). edit: im actually against schools requiring students to bring cartolinas, papers, etc na gagamitin lang to clutter the whole classroom. We should be using less paper by now tbh.
Cookie cutter architecture, Copy paste design, something something economy of scale = more $$$?
Not sure pero pangshade sa araw at para di maanggihan ng tubig pag umulan..
Very human.
iwas cutting class kaya ganyan design
Kawawa naman yung napag tripan, na ilagay yung bag sa ganyan hahahaha.
Akala ko bakit pare-parehas ang design ng bag, buti binasa ko lahat.
standardized design. So that all schools in the entire country only used a single blueprint. therefore cutting cost. Probably the same reason why GSIS buildings around the country are mostly looked the same. But IMO the design is 💩 for me.
Functionalist architecture.
para pag umuulan, di dadaloy sa bintana ang tubig ulin which in turn papasok sa classroom.. nakalimutan ko ang tawag jan nung mga trabajante ko nung nagpagawa ako ng gusali
Wtf
may planong pag cucutting classes ata ung may ari ng bag
Code Standards
No. no I am not ignoring the bags. What the fuck are those doing there.
It's sort of a brand. Makita mo pa lang, alam mo nang school siya even without seeing the signages.
I work in DPWH and theres a a standard school building design.
DPWH "template" yan... usually din kasi yung budget na binibigay para sa public structures eh kulang (alams na kung san napupunta) so kung gusto mo talaga mag design ng bago mahirap din i implement kung kulang pera baka sa tagal na darating yung second phase budget eh ilang taon na at ma "chopsuey" ang design based sa gusto ng end users... kaya mas okay na gamitin yung "template" para kahit di matapos kaagad ng buo eh mas madali na i resume. Standards yung sizes mga yan for 50 students per room tapos always mai stairwell on both ends ng hallway for safety.
Para walang inggitan :) I am not sure, baka may standard na sinusunod ang mga taga bigay ng permit. In some countries, pare pareho din ang design ng mga schools nila specially pag public schools.
We call those buildings PAGCORs (because they were donated by PAGCOR). I don't if these are also donated by PAGCOR but if they were, it would explain why they all look the same.
My question is bakit may dalawang backpacks jan sa pic na iyan?
>!Bullying caught in 4k!<
either kasi sobrang basic ng design so they all looks similar, OR galing sa iisang design lahat ng building, i.e. galing sa deped or dpwh or whatever yung blue print and they just send the design to the winning construction company para di need magbayad ng design everytime may magpapaconstruct ng public school. sidenote tho WHAT DO YOU MEAN IGNORE THE BAGS
may dalawang istudyante nanaman ang napagtripan 🤣
Bcs pinakamadali and to save money ata
I think design cost. The design is always utilitarian in nature and they're really targeting no frills design. Just a spacious room, a corridor and basic windows. Thats it
need talaga canopy para sa ganyan na bintana, mga bintana na di nasasakop ng hubong ng buulding kase masyado na malayo
Kasi yon yong standard.
bakit kaya ang mga SM malls bakit pare parehas ng design?
Salamat sa paginform na ignore yung bags kasi naging part siya ng thought process ko hahahaha. Pero dapat aysuin yung mga schools natin, nagmumukhang preso lalo na pag nasa urban areas. I’ve been to Panglao recentyl and ang ganda ng schools nila, in a sense na ang open ng area nila
Less money to pay for architect and use the previous design para mas madami maibulsa.
unlike in the US, schools in the philippines (or atleast public schools) are budget oriented, mga donated for the sake of donation ung karamihan ng schools sa pinas kaya may malaking sign na nagpapasalamat kay gobernador/a or nagpapasalamat sa SM.
sorry op can't ignore the bags haha
Google the OG GigaChad "Gabaldon" School buildings. Reject modernity, re-embrace the tradition
hindi ba parang japan lang? sa mga anime magkakamukha mga school nila hahaha
given the current issues we have in classroom, its preferable to have a copy paste design for easy mass produced than to be try hard making the most aesthetically pleasing one if we wanted to resolve the lack of classrooms\~
it's just a prank! the prank :
Can hear the masungit na adviser/level coordinator running to ask:SINO ANG MAY GAWA NIYAN? DI KAYO UUWI HANGGA'T HINDI NIYO SINASABI!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA Also, uniform design para "no school left behind"
depends on the contractor sometimes sablay yung gawa
Tbh naiinis ako sa ganyan kasi nagiging bland at nawawalan ng personality ang school. Maybe because of functionality (?) I don't know. Nakakapanlumo na yung dati kong school nung elementary and high school kahit ang aayos pa ng mga building although old, ginigiba nila just to build these generic buildings. Nawawalan tuloy ng history yung school. Pwede naman nila irenovate.
Karamihan din ng mga schools sa asia parehas din design ng mga school. Usually mga elementary to high school and lalo na pag public schools (or governments schools).
Cause these building is the DepEd Standard Type Buildings.
Merong prescribed design ng schools ang dpwh. One time naghahanap ako ng standard toilet to student ratio, ang nahanap ko ay floor plan at elevations ng toilet ng schools natin.
for a second I thought this was the school near my house. it's really THAT generic looking
para uniform ang itsura ng school buildings all over the country. Also like others pointed out, it might be to satisfy the building code or cost efficient reasons.
I can't ignore the bags, unfortunately :( bakit may naglalagay ng bag dun??
Nag OJT ako sa isang gencon company na DPWH ang client. May standard talaga DPWH, same aesthetic pero sa structural nagkakaiba and yung shape ng building. Kunwari, malapit sa dagat yung loc ng school. Mas maraming bakal at mas malaking size ganon. Mas maliit property line, dadagdagan ng floors. Less costs sa design.
ask lang, bakit ang panget ng itsura ng "standard design"? kung gagawa na din lang naman bakit hindi pa gandahan kahit konti? kasi ang panget ng pintura, ang huna ng bintana, pati yung mismong design ng building
It’s just a prank. Yung prank:
Pra di umampyas ang ulan s tuwing na ulan at may konting silong sa sikat ng araw.
Sa school namin may ganyan na itsura naala ko sa labas ng building namin yung mga binbtana na ganyan tapos sa loob na may aircon at ceiling fan sa loob ng highschool sa Holy Spirit School sa Ilang-Ilang Street
Design and efficiency wise Yan na gmit nila I think sa sobrang daling Gawin Ng ganyan design pwede mo Gawin in all if not most land spaces d na need mag chk maxado
God, reminds me of Soviet Commieblocks
naaalala ko nung HS ako, nagkasunog sa PNHS Main. dian lumabas yung ibang students tapos tumalon sa panic. ewan ko kung ano pumasok sa isip nila bat sila tumungtong dian sa nakausli na semento na yan at ginawa yan na fire escape even though marami naman fire escape yung main building. hahaha wala pong namatay sa kanila pero may mga napilayan dun sa mga tumalon.
But I’m more interested on those bags…
May barkada ako naghabulan sa 3rd floor ng ganyan just for fun. Iniisip ko pa lang lumalambot yung tuhod ko. Hindi ko kaya yun, pero ulol kami noon.
Their design is to make them disaster-resilient, i think?
How can I ignore the bags??
I cant ignore the bags! Sinong binubully nyo
Archi here, walang hinahire na arch yan. Look at those private schools. Do they look like the same? Contractors create such ultra basic schemes to be functional, and maximize their profit. Kasi pag hinaluan ng creativity ng archi yan, panibagong computation ng structural yan, mechanical, plumbing, electrical, and so fort. So kung meron man na makkitang unique na design from public schools, un ay donated ng isang politician -- which is not really donated, but really comes from taxpayers money. So parang nag laan lang ng mas marami for that building. Tapos ilalagay nila dyan donated by whom.
Because that design is cheap and it works?
To inspire future designers to step up and do better.
hanggang dun lang din kayang budget na ipatayo
because its simple and functional. nag aral ako private school pero parang mga loteng bahay na subd. lang. naiingit ako sa public school kase may 2nd floor sila HAHA
If it's a public school building, then talagang isang design lang yan.
Japan din naman similar itsura ng mga schools
for some reason yung PPP funded building sa former High School ko is nagdevelop agad ng major cracks and damages and rare naman ang earthquakes and I think wala pa siyang 5 years since they appear. 🤧
Pagcor
Easy answer: Para 2-3 designs lang ang originally na kailangan, and easily adaptable throughout the country. Pagpublic namn, hinde namn kailangan na state of the art and unique bawat isang eskwelahan eh. They're also efficient.
Uniform design para makatipid dapat Ever since naman isa lang talaga design ng eskwela Look at those schools built during the americans (kung meron pa or pictures pag giniba na) they are all the same from aparri to jolo. Pinag kaiba lang, how many rooms or how high It was built kasi kinonsider nila flooding Then after the war, they call it prefab. Eto talaga, alam mo na na lahat isa lang pinanggalingan ng mataryales at design. Lahat ng room may kubeta pero teacher lang gumagamit. Then panahon ni makoy, may variation konti pero either concrete or semi concrete but lahat ng govt buildings parang mga eskwela, mga clinic, mga NIA offices etc Same
Dahil sa PPP project yan ng megawide corp around pnoy term daming pinagawang classroom building nun time na un
Sorry bag talaga yung una kong napansin HAHAHAHA
Hate ns hate ko yung casement windows na madaming grilles (at pare parehong gawa sa cheap iron) sa mgs eskwelahan at yung feeling na parang preso sa loob ng classrom kasi limited yung view towards the outside. Not a conducive learning environment talaga
Public* school building
This is so true. Dito sa amin at sa area ng tita ko parehas ng color scheme and layout ng building yung mga public elementary/highschools.
May template na po yung building design. Para madali na ang processo sa drawing to building.