Malupit nga dyan may pa CTTO nilagay, eh, kita naman sa pic ung pangalan ng original owner.
Parang gusto kong sampalin ung mukha nila gamit ung pic na yun.
I feel like piracy for personal use, especially in a 3rd world country, is different from monetizing the pirated/stolen intellectual property.
That said, filipinos should still be taught what copyright infringment is, why it's frowned upon now, and why it's illegal.
I’d give you a better argument FOR piracy - piracy is indicative of a distribution problem.
Imagine a movie you really, really wanna watch, but it’s been years and years and there’s no release for the PH.
There’s also the problem of games/movies that aren’t sold anywhere. Abandonware. No choice but to pirate it.
IP laws do have problems. But regarding the original post, it’s the mental gymnastics that irks me. IP theft is IP theft, and any justification is just to salve the conscience.
Yeah sometimes i get why people do it especially if you're getting paid only $5 an hour for graphic design work and do not have php26k to spare for adobe creative cloud.
Not sure why you're being downvoted, but this is correct. While normalized, it is illegal to own a software you don't have license for. Like, mag-ice kendi ka 'pag wala kang pang-ice cream 😆
It's just that the big companies don't have time to prosecute every single user of a pirated copy (they would rather go for other companies instead), and/or they gain something from it (like Netflix login sharing).
It just so happens that, it also affects local IP as well.
Many local movies, books and computer programs and games have probably met their end because many would just pirate those things rather than buy the product outright.
Using p2p (like Bittorrent) isn't always bad. People legally downloading .ISOs of certain software (like Linux) do it all the time to minimize the load on servers.
I HATE PIRACY!
I WANT MULTI MILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS TO MAKE MORE MONEY!
I LOVE WHEN CORPORATIONS PRICE GOUGE DEVELOPING COUNTRIES!
Edit: omg fellow redditors salamat sa upvotes 😍😍
"If buying is not owning, then pirating is not stealing." - me to corporations that won't let me own shit that I buy kung dati naman eh nagiging pag-aari ko yung mga binibili ko sa kanila.
Sa mga kontrang corporate justice warriors, your opinons are valid, but I'll keep sailing the seven seas until they moderate their greed, or sink me.
it more on the norm, alam naman ng mga pinoy kung ano ang dvd dvd, at payong. more kung sino ang nakasanayan na doon makita na yan ang gamit. siguro nadala na ang relihiyon doon. just like the days na singaporean and expats go to malaysia to buy pirated dvd etc.
Knowing how tough laws are towards copyright material in Western countries, mas malala pa ang magiging repurcussions aside from jail time and fines, like mawawalan na ng credibility as an artist, or maybe get banned from working in the entertainment industry as a whole.
This in turn, made me appricate Kenji Yamamoto's way of taking influence from other mainstream works (as melody sampling or something) from USA to be used as video game soundtracks from Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3, where he did take a spin on those influences despite being labelled as a "plagiarist". Shairah on the other hand stole it outright with minimal music editing to make it claim that it's hers.
We made documentary of these issues around 11 years ago back when dvd dvd was still "in" karamihan talaga walang alam sa copyright issues and dahil talamak ang kalakaran with the weak enforcement of the law and little information campaign = normalization of this situations
Still remember one of our resource persons (which is one of our law professors) said na ang batas anjan na napakahina at kulang sa enforcement
I have a prof before na ginamit ppt presentation ng classmate namen sa isang event na na-invite sya mag-talk. This was 10yrs ago. Yung classmate ko na super bait, hinayaan na lang at sinabihan nya yung prof namen na yun na wag na gamitin. That classmate, experience made her na maging mas matapang na ngayon kaya if ever may masagap pa daw syang balita na ginagamit pa din ng prof namen yung presentation nya, di na sya magdadalawang isip na magdemanda. Lahat kami sa batch, nawalan ng respeto sa prof na yun. Napapaisip tuloy kami na baka yung iba nameng submissions dati ay ginamit na din nya sa ibang platform at hindi lang namen nabalitaan.
Edgy boy abnoy supporter 🥴 ipapasok ang political views para mag mukhang relevant sa madla, typical peenoise politicians supporters 🥴 pare-pareho lang kayo , bbm supporters, ddshits supporters, lenilugaw supporters, pare-pareho lang kayong abnoy 🥴
It will all boils down sa Government. Ang hirap ichange yung belief system natin kasi yung mga nasa taas esp the lawmakers itself yung nagpapa simuno sa mga ganitong kagaguhan sa bansa natin. Scamming, Plagiarizing, Cheating puro lng yan distant cousin ni Corruption.
Kakauwi ko lang from an Easter egg hunt event.
May mga bata dun na nanguha ng mga itlog bago magpahanap habang kumakain lahat. Nakita sila ng tatay nila. Kala ko pagsasabihan ng tatay at papabalik yung mga itlog.
"Lagay nyo na sa bulsa nyo" sabi ng tatay.
I’m curious about this, and I hope someone can explain. Yung mga campaign jingles na ginagamit yung tunes ng ibang songs, do they also fall into copyright infringement?
Yes, they're copyright infringements. It's the reason why only Biden was able to use Eminem's "Lose Yourself" in his campaign. Eminem rarely allows licensing his songs to campaigns.
Not sure specifically about the law, but those jingles are parodies that aren't claimed as their own work. Owners can try suing but it'd be hard. Something like Selos were rehashed songs claimed as original work without due credit.
Yang binoto mo lang na presedente lantarang prebe na napakabobo ng mga pilipino at normal lang sa kanila ang pagnanakaw. Mind you almost all my relatives voted for him. I tell them they are all fools
I do want copyright to be enforced but its hard because of
1. parallel discovery
2. the internet
also gonna put these here
[https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jury-reaches-verdict-ed-sheeran-copyright-infringement-case/story?id=99022695](https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jury-reaches-verdict-ed-sheeran-copyright-infringement-case/story?id=99022695)
[https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/06/05/ed-sheeran-copyright-infringement-lawsuit-marvin-gaye](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/06/05/ed-sheeran-copyright-infringement-lawsuit-marvin-gaye)
I don't really know anything about the Shaira copyright thing but real, cheating and plagiarism are so normalized that I had to transfer to another school. Cheating culture and copy pasting were so rampant in my previous university that it basically made me think how the fuck am I going to end up as a professional if I earned my bachelor's degree off of cheating and stealing. It made me guilty as fuck for real.
Encountered a Dumbass on youtube after making a comment about the people defending shaira are stupid, and this one mfer said: "edi ireport mo kung concern ka" everytime I see an argument with that word, it means that person is a sore loser.
Hiyang-hiya naman kaming mga nag-cicite ng sources at nagtatrabaho ng matino sa “who culture normalized cheating and plagiarism”
Sabagay, ano bang aasahan sa isang bansa whose culture has normalized unfair generalizations. Lol
As a Maguindanaon atheist who aspires to make Maguindanaon and other Bangsamoro-originated ethnicity-based (Iranun, Maranao, Tausug, Yakan Sama, and others) music and entertainment industry and Bangsamoro music and entertainment industry raise into international level and world-class quality just like in India, it is saddening to see how Shaira and AHS Production Team really ruined those industries I mentioned. I always call them out (not only AHS Productions, but other Bangsamoro music productions and music artists don't adhere to copyright laws) to stop publishing their song adaptation on digital music platforms without proper attributions and proper licensure to original artists and always adhere to copyright laws in the Philippines. It's okay to create song adaptations and upload them in different platforms as long as they adhere to the copyright laws such as having proper attributions, having permission or licensure to the original artists, revenue sharing, and others as long as it will not make the original artists not feel offended.
For AHS Production, if they still have remaining integrity and dignity not only for all Maguindanaons, Bangsamoro, and Philippines, but also the whole music industry in this world, if their product is published without adhering copyright laws, better to take it down today and produce new original music. Maguindanaon music has a lot of traditional music instruments such as kulintang (which is used right now in P-Pop songs, such as ALAMAT's song, Kasmala, Rhythm by Yes My Love, and so much more), agong, sabakan, kudyapi, and others.
If AHS Production doesn't stop these unethical practices, I think, Shaira must leave that production as they are the one that ruined her image.
Shaira didn't ruin anything. She has her own thing and you have yours. If you didn't already know Shaira isn't the first (nor will she be the last) to sample or interpolate or cover other artists' work). Hiphop artist here and abroad do it all the time. Mainstream artists do it all the time (eg. Britney Spears, JLo, Beyoncé, Troye Sivan, etc.). Sometimes they pay. Sometimes they don't (and no it isn't always illegal. Usually if you wanna make a buck off of your song, you gotta pay. Doesn't mean you can't just publish it if you don't though. I mean there are loopholes) Anyway, my point is please keep making that sweet, sweet Bangsamoro music and bless us with your gift. Shaira's doing her thing and it's cool to finally see her getting mainstream attention (i hope her team makes use of all this free promo.)
Anyway, we can't for you to start killing it. Good luck!
here is a not a joke but will make us look like clowns special example is fiesta of somewhere in cavite you can hear music playing, remixes of what should be copyrighted music and those who were playing the music is from the parade itself and popo's then the multi cabs with speakers have the candidates face saying that it came from their own pockets lol. I bet it's the confiscated remix music sa mga talipapa at markets. Then a friend of mine said some computers from the police station use pirated windows software hahaha what in the world I love me govmnt🤭😉🙃.
This applies to any instance when someone gets caught doing something wrong. Shit riders/drivers, petty criminals, politicians... it doesn't matter. The common thread is concepts like personal ethics or responsibility are completely alien to them. Zero sympathy for them. They are the real problem.
Not defending them, but since this has been resolved by the involved parties, what's the point of bringing it up pa? Internet points? Idgi.
If you want to raise awareness of teach them a lesson, shaming isn't the best way to go my man.
Not everyone hates if some of their comments indicate, though.
Some hate while others poke fun of (if not mock) errant behavior.
How people wanna behave, basta panindigan nila kahit anong resulta.
Lol those people (for example, the toxic Filipinos in Lenka's IG comment section) are literally condoning copyright infringement just because “pinasikat” daw nung Shaira yung music ni Lenka. Sobrang baluktot ng “logic” and they deserve to be shamed for that 🤷🏻♀️
Enough with the toxic positivity lmao
I'm not trying to be positive about it. Not at all. Remember, I'm with all of you on this.
Just saying that if shaming them didn't work the first time, what makes us think that it'll work this time?
Because there are many many people out there who condone this BS as evidenced in the many comments about this issue, on Lenka's IG posts, on Tiktok, wherever? How would you effectively persuade them to agree that copyright infringement is wrong then?
Not entirely shaming to be completely honest, in fact sila pa nga may gana mang gaslight at mang pahiya kaagad to deflect the card, at pag sinubukan mo pa rin sila i-kindly correct, ikaw pa rin ang babarahin nila pabalik.
Some people just don't want to be corrected, pero gusto nila lagi ang audacity at entitlement all the time.
You have a good point, anon. I guess sakin lang, no need to rub it in their faces if we already know it didn't work the first time. Not to stop, but to look for a different approach.
They arent attacking the people involved though, they are bringing up the toxicity of Filipinos and how we react toward things like this. Its not just in plagiarism, its in EVERYTHING. Makes me sick
Exactly. I don't get the point of the other person's comment since hindi pa tapos mang-bash yung mga toxic Shaira fans kay Lenka, and these people need to be shamed for them to learn. About time someone calls out the very toxic Pinoy trait of condoning copyright infringement
Hindi nga copyright lang eh, lahat. May na rape - "oh tingnan mo naman suot kasi" "talagang maraming rapist dyan" corruption - "eh eto naman ginawa nya kaya okay lang" theft - "kawawa naman ang tao eh ayaw pag bigyan kahit isa lang" Kaya hindi umuunlad ang Pilipinas kasi kahit ano solusyon, meron naman halos kokontra dahil wala eh ganyan lang talaga ang kasanayan. Filipino Culture at its finest.
Kung gusto mo magpakasanto, okay lang. Holy week naman. Pero wag ka namimilit or nag-iinsinuate na you have some moral high ground. Di lahat may kabaitan ng puso mo na kaya pa ring tantanan mga kagaguhan ng "masa."
Never did I say na I am on any moral high ground.
I have worked with the "masa" you talk about and have given multiple jobs and have seen change. Possible to change even the most arrogant "masa". Alas, isang tao lang ako. We need to work together to institute change.
masasabi kaya nila yan pag sila mismo gumawa ng kanta pero di sumikat? tas ninakaw lang kanta nila, iniba konti, tas kumita ng milyones? tas sila nganga na lang sa nilalangaw nilang kanta sa youtube
Was wondering how toni gonzaga or andrew e got away with thier song since i think one of thier songs have elements from other famous artists (not sure about the right term to use here)
Sure ka na normalize sa Pinoy yan? Eh bakit parang ini-report yan then yung iba pang case tulad nung nagtaguyod ng OMD Optical Media Board during those times na hinuhuli at dinudurog ang mga pirated CDs and DVDs na imported from other countries especially from Europe and Asia. Makikita mo naman sa pinapanuod mo na ibang lahi ang nanunuod at umuubo sa sinehan hindi mga Pinoy 🤣🤣🤣 meaning galing sa ibang bansa ang pumirata. For you to say na normalized sa Pinoy ang copyright infringement sorry ire-evaluate mo ang topic mo. Basta may mai-post lang ng hindi nag iisip
Binubully ko nga mga bobo na yan sa fb eh direkta ko minimention tas sasabihang bobo, partida real name ko gamit ko dun. Yung IQ nila parang spaghetti kase pababa nang pababa😆
sinong bang pinoy umamin pag nahuli parang wala naman. kung meron man ayon sinisisi pa ginawan ng di maganda. take it from the politics and showbiz personalities and now our journalist twisting on thier own agenda even if its wrong.
Naalala ko na naman. Yung cheater kong naka-date, kinopya yung disclaimer na naka-pin sa profile ko sa Facebook. Cheater na nga magnanakaw pa ng post. Bwisit ka talaga Joshua.
I hope we could chill down with the generalization just because a minority of the population did something that is embarrasing or bad. Not all Filipino defend the wrong side, you should know that.
If you consume stolen, pirated media, cracked versions of apps, they're the same thing. What she did is nothing new in the industry. It's full of sampling and interpolations. What she also did is very rampant in YouTube specially at the height of parodies, covers, and remixes. Once you upload it in a music streaming app for the purpose of monetisation is when it borders it. Asking permission to use it could've avoided or not uploading it on Spotify at all (which doesn't really do much as Spotify pays cents).
Again, culture na ito sa Mindanao whenever a new song drops. They take the instrumentals or beat, add or change it a bit, and lalatagan ng bagong lyrics. Sometimes it's in Bisaya.
Im guilty of supporting online piracy lalo na sa movies and i know na mali yon and with that being said hindi ako nagagalit if mawala ang pinapanooran ko non or pag na call out , mali ka na nga galit ka pa! Pakisabe sa mga fans nung Shaira!
Nakakainis pa is continuous pa yung pag gamit nila nung song as Background Music sa Social Media Contents. Ang dami ding unofficial uploads sa Youtube nung Full Song.
Kaya nga nag take down yung kampo niya para mas smooth yung pag asikaso ng cover license, kaso dahil sa ginagawa ng netizens ngayon baka mas lalo lang silang madiin niyan.
Sana manahimik nalang muna at hayaan na maging official yung cover license, ng sa ganun pag legit na, pakinggan nila at gamitin nila sa content hanggang magsawa sila.
Sa tingin ko ha, di naman din kasalanan ni Shaira na mag boboom ung kanta nya. Sa sobrang daming spoof and parody songs sa tv bakit hindi nacocopyright diba? kung di sya sumikat, wala naman copyright eh. Masakit lang kase madami tao na binabash sya na magnanakaw what the heck! Yes copyright ung song nya and they voluntarilty removed it and now asking for a cover license. Bat ung iba ipagngulngulan pa sa mukha nya na ninakaw nya ung song? PERO YES MALI ANG MGA PINOY BASHING LENKA DIN TALAGA
Coping lang rin yung mga taong ganyan kasi in reality, ganyan sila. Kaya when they see themselves in other people, they tend to defend it kasi ganun sila.
What do you expect in a disgusting filthy *sorry for the word, 3rd world country like Philippines diba? Daming mamayang sa pilipinas ang tanga at close minded sa mga bagay bagay I was really ashamed of our kababayans I'm not generalizing having a shit mindset about some sort of things 🤦
Haha, diko na alam.
Feeling ko, nagsstem din sya sa victim mindset ng mga pinoy, kaya ganyan nalang sila maka defend.
Or maybe I'm wrong. Sadyang walang sense of copyright and ownership mga pinoy.
\*Posts some anti-Filipino material:
Opinion of some dude based on the said material: "Thievery seems to be normalized in PH culture. Interestingly, I've read that their ancestors had similar culture hundreds of years ago. It seems that not even American nor Spanish could make them change or civilize them."
\*Filipinos then attack the dude who made the opinion\*
Honestly though, law enforcement is just as important as following them, so don't be afraid to hold everyone accountable for malicious crimes and learn to collect evidence.
Filipinos post anti-Filipino material, gets upvotes. Some guy supports the anti-Filipino material and provides more anti-Filipino material, gets downvoted.
CTTO
1. Nilalagay lang CTTO kahit mismong original link di nilagay
2. CTTO pero imbis ishare link screenshot, mas malala cropped ung OP
3. CTTO downloaded yung original video tapos gagawa sya bagong video mula don sa OP
Dami talaga magnacums sa Pinas, sa bagay halata kung sino binoto. 🤣
Tas pag binara sila "Yabang naman neto kala mo kung sino e di ikaw na magaling"
Only sore losers say this.
nakakahiya pa yung nagkalat sila sa IG ni Lenka..
Magaling talaga ako, wala akong sakit e.
meron pa yung "EDI WOW"
Auto reply "oo nga magaling nga ako, tapos?"
A country where smart shaming is a thing.
"Ang mapagmataas ay ibinababa blah blah"
And the Ad hominem begins
* CTTO * DVDs kahit saan binebenta * Pa download ng mp3 noon sa phone repair shop * Torrents and cracks sa internet cafe Yeah, this checks out.
Sobrang pet peeve ko yang 'ctto' and its other variants: ccto, ctto to the owner, etc.
CTTO = Fuck proper crediting pero lagyan ko na rin neto para di ako magmukhang magnanakaw ng content
No copyright intended
ctto to the owner: credits to the owner to the owner lol
Parang ATM machine lang yan eh.
at PIN number
ang tanong minsan sino ung owner? sana nag lagay ng name
pag di kasi alam kung sino, yan nalang linalagay para sabihin na may credits. dapat nasasanay yung iba na ilagay yung name.
pinag pasa pasahan na kinuha na nung isa tapos kinuha pa ulit ayun hanggang sa hnd na alam kung sino ang orig
Malupit nga dyan may pa CTTO nilagay, eh, kita naman sa pic ung pangalan ng original owner. Parang gusto kong sampalin ung mukha nila gamit ung pic na yun.
I feel like piracy for personal use, especially in a 3rd world country, is different from monetizing the pirated/stolen intellectual property. That said, filipinos should still be taught what copyright infringment is, why it's frowned upon now, and why it's illegal.
I’d give you a better argument FOR piracy - piracy is indicative of a distribution problem. Imagine a movie you really, really wanna watch, but it’s been years and years and there’s no release for the PH. There’s also the problem of games/movies that aren’t sold anywhere. Abandonware. No choice but to pirate it. IP laws do have problems. But regarding the original post, it’s the mental gymnastics that irks me. IP theft is IP theft, and any justification is just to salve the conscience.
Yeah sometimes i get why people do it especially if you're getting paid only $5 an hour for graphic design work and do not have php26k to spare for adobe creative cloud.
GIMP exists.
If you can't afford that software, you are still not allowed to have it illegally. Find another one you can afford.
Not sure why you're being downvoted, but this is correct. While normalized, it is illegal to own a software you don't have license for. Like, mag-ice kendi ka 'pag wala kang pang-ice cream 😆 It's just that the big companies don't have time to prosecute every single user of a pirated copy (they would rather go for other companies instead), and/or they gain something from it (like Netflix login sharing).
I don't think you can even blame the typical Filipino for piracy, third world countries are at a disadvantage even with regional pricing.
It just so happens that, it also affects local IP as well. Many local movies, books and computer programs and games have probably met their end because many would just pirate those things rather than buy the product outright.
You can. You can't justify crime however small it is.
pati mga underground music katulad ng Repablikan, gagong rapper, Curse one? eh mga copyrighted songs din yun mula sa japanese.
Andrew E. pa na literal translation lang ang ginawa sa Humanap Ka ng Panget.
Sama mo na yung EXB na magnanakaw ng beat
Most of these are common globally though, kahit sa mga computer groups na lang laging may meme about those stuff
*Bumoto ng magnanakaw
Using p2p (like Bittorrent) isn't always bad. People legally downloading .ISOs of certain software (like Linux) do it all the time to minimize the load on servers.
I HATE PIRACY! I WANT MULTI MILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS TO MAKE MORE MONEY! I LOVE WHEN CORPORATIONS PRICE GOUGE DEVELOPING COUNTRIES! Edit: omg fellow redditors salamat sa upvotes 😍😍
"If buying is not owning, then pirating is not stealing." - me to corporations that won't let me own shit that I buy kung dati naman eh nagiging pag-aari ko yung mga binibili ko sa kanila. Sa mga kontrang corporate justice warriors, your opinons are valid, but I'll keep sailing the seven seas until they moderate their greed, or sink me.
We agree on the morals of the thing, but it is still IP theft, yeah? Sugarcoating things so it changes optics is kinda iffy to me.
Ubisoft?
The law doesn't agree with you. Piracy is a crime whether you like it or not.
The law agreed with Mr. Hands in Washington DC. Does that make his actions justifiable?
Fuck off MPAA/RIAA/ACE propagandist and your dick-sucking ass;
Its more professional to say Media © Owner.
this reply has no critical thinking whatsoever…
agree, kaya nga di ko magets paano naging issue ng religiom etc yan ehh sa totoo lang ay copyright infringement ang nangyari dyan...
Aside from that.haram din ang music sa kanila.
i dont think so, bakit sila nagproroduce ng maramihan lalo na pirated.
it more on the norm, alam naman ng mga pinoy kung ano ang dvd dvd, at payong. more kung sino ang nakasanayan na doon makita na yan ang gamit. siguro nadala na ang relihiyon doon. just like the days na singaporean and expats go to malaysia to buy pirated dvd etc.
Bobo eh. Wala na pag asa sa ganyan. Tanungin mo meaning ng infringement sagot sayo Edi wow. Putanginang pilipinas yan
Edi wow; Dami mong alam; Edi ikaw na magaling And many other smart-shaming terms you can think of ☠️
Mismo. May batas naman sa pinas about sa intelectual property. Pero king inang red tape yan bago ka pa makakuha ng hearing laos na yung ginaya sayo
And worse, ikaw na nga ninakawan tas parang ikaw pa yung masama
>Edi wow Bwisit yung ganitong mga comment or phrase pang maasim na mga squammies.
Matutuyuan ka nalang ng utak sa ganyang comment. Putangina alam mong ginalis na sa kakakain ng sardinas yung nag comment. Punyeta nalang
Try nilang gawin sa European Union area, tatawanan sila ng Article 13.
Knowing how tough laws are towards copyright material in Western countries, mas malala pa ang magiging repurcussions aside from jail time and fines, like mawawalan na ng credibility as an artist, or maybe get banned from working in the entertainment industry as a whole.
who says who, games are still pirated and downloaded
Pag sinabi mo yan sa kanila sasabihan ka nila na nasa Pilipinas naman tayo eh hahahahaha
This kind of excuse is the reason why Filipinos often have no discipline and have no integrity, responsibility and accountability in many aspects.
This in turn, made me appricate Kenji Yamamoto's way of taking influence from other mainstream works (as melody sampling or something) from USA to be used as video game soundtracks from Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3, where he did take a spin on those influences despite being labelled as a "plagiarist". Shairah on the other hand stole it outright with minimal music editing to make it claim that it's hers.
Mental gymnastics illustrated hahaa.
We made documentary of these issues around 11 years ago back when dvd dvd was still "in" karamihan talaga walang alam sa copyright issues and dahil talamak ang kalakaran with the weak enforcement of the law and little information campaign = normalization of this situations Still remember one of our resource persons (which is one of our law professors) said na ang batas anjan na napakahina at kulang sa enforcement
I have a prof before na ginamit ppt presentation ng classmate namen sa isang event na na-invite sya mag-talk. This was 10yrs ago. Yung classmate ko na super bait, hinayaan na lang at sinabihan nya yung prof namen na yun na wag na gamitin. That classmate, experience made her na maging mas matapang na ngayon kaya if ever may masagap pa daw syang balita na ginagamit pa din ng prof namen yung presentation nya, di na sya magdadalawang isip na magdemanda. Lahat kami sa batch, nawalan ng respeto sa prof na yun. Napapaisip tuloy kami na baka yung iba nameng submissions dati ay ginamit na din nya sa ibang platform at hindi lang namen nabalitaan.
Sama mo yun mga prof na nag papartner with students for research papers pero yun contribution wala. Tapos nababayaran pa sila per research paper.
You have Marcos as the president of this shit space who do you expect voted for the idiot?
Lol, wala na bang bago ? Typical leni supporter ampt. Maisingit lang political views eh 😂 ambabaw ng utak mo.
There he is 31M represent! 🤣
Edgy boy abnoy supporter 🥴 ipapasok ang political views para mag mukhang relevant sa madla, typical peenoise politicians supporters 🥴 pare-pareho lang kayo , bbm supporters, ddshits supporters, lenilugaw supporters, pare-pareho lang kayong abnoy 🥴
It will all boils down sa Government. Ang hirap ichange yung belief system natin kasi yung mga nasa taas esp the lawmakers itself yung nagpapa simuno sa mga ganitong kagaguhan sa bansa natin. Scamming, Plagiarizing, Cheating puro lng yan distant cousin ni Corruption.
Kakauwi ko lang from an Easter egg hunt event. May mga bata dun na nanguha ng mga itlog bago magpahanap habang kumakain lahat. Nakita sila ng tatay nila. Kala ko pagsasabihan ng tatay at papabalik yung mga itlog. "Lagay nyo na sa bulsa nyo" sabi ng tatay.
You missed the 'Stealing from white people is okay sana gets nyo'
I’m curious about this, and I hope someone can explain. Yung mga campaign jingles na ginagamit yung tunes ng ibang songs, do they also fall into copyright infringement?
Yes, they're copyright infringements. It's the reason why only Biden was able to use Eminem's "Lose Yourself" in his campaign. Eminem rarely allows licensing his songs to campaigns.
Not sure specifically about the law, but those jingles are parodies that aren't claimed as their own work. Owners can try suing but it'd be hard. Something like Selos were rehashed songs claimed as original work without due credit.
Many Filipinos have a gold medal in mental gymnastics. And that's not a compliment.
Filipino culture normalizes cheating and plagiarism? really? based on what?
Yang binoto mo lang na presedente lantarang prebe na napakabobo ng mga pilipino at normal lang sa kanila ang pagnanakaw. Mind you almost all my relatives voted for him. I tell them they are all fools
I didn't vote for anyone for president last election. Where are you getting your facts from? lol
“illegal by law” is redundant.
I do want copyright to be enforced but its hard because of 1. parallel discovery 2. the internet also gonna put these here [https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jury-reaches-verdict-ed-sheeran-copyright-infringement-case/story?id=99022695](https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jury-reaches-verdict-ed-sheeran-copyright-infringement-case/story?id=99022695) [https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/06/05/ed-sheeran-copyright-infringement-lawsuit-marvin-gaye](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/06/05/ed-sheeran-copyright-infringement-lawsuit-marvin-gaye)
I don't really know anything about the Shaira copyright thing but real, cheating and plagiarism are so normalized that I had to transfer to another school. Cheating culture and copy pasting were so rampant in my previous university that it basically made me think how the fuck am I going to end up as a professional if I earned my bachelor's degree off of cheating and stealing. It made me guilty as fuck for real.
Sinotto
meron pa yung "ok lang magnakaw sa mga puti" 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
isn’t it though? i hope the whites pick you
Encountered a Dumbass on youtube after making a comment about the people defending shaira are stupid, and this one mfer said: "edi ireport mo kung concern ka" everytime I see an argument with that word, it means that person is a sore loser.
the whole issue is not just the legal its the fact na Filipinos are just ripping off other artists
Just that Filipinos (particularly Moros) have little or no moral compass
Ang Pilipino, hindi natatalo. Either panalo lang siya or nadaya.
Hiyang-hiya naman kaming mga nag-cicite ng sources at nagtatrabaho ng matino sa “who culture normalized cheating and plagiarism” Sabagay, ano bang aasahan sa isang bansa whose culture has normalized unfair generalizations. Lol
Nakakahiya talaga pag walang alam. ☹️
As a Maguindanaon atheist who aspires to make Maguindanaon and other Bangsamoro-originated ethnicity-based (Iranun, Maranao, Tausug, Yakan Sama, and others) music and entertainment industry and Bangsamoro music and entertainment industry raise into international level and world-class quality just like in India, it is saddening to see how Shaira and AHS Production Team really ruined those industries I mentioned. I always call them out (not only AHS Productions, but other Bangsamoro music productions and music artists don't adhere to copyright laws) to stop publishing their song adaptation on digital music platforms without proper attributions and proper licensure to original artists and always adhere to copyright laws in the Philippines. It's okay to create song adaptations and upload them in different platforms as long as they adhere to the copyright laws such as having proper attributions, having permission or licensure to the original artists, revenue sharing, and others as long as it will not make the original artists not feel offended. For AHS Production, if they still have remaining integrity and dignity not only for all Maguindanaons, Bangsamoro, and Philippines, but also the whole music industry in this world, if their product is published without adhering copyright laws, better to take it down today and produce new original music. Maguindanaon music has a lot of traditional music instruments such as kulintang (which is used right now in P-Pop songs, such as ALAMAT's song, Kasmala, Rhythm by Yes My Love, and so much more), agong, sabakan, kudyapi, and others. If AHS Production doesn't stop these unethical practices, I think, Shaira must leave that production as they are the one that ruined her image.
Shaira didn't ruin anything. She has her own thing and you have yours. If you didn't already know Shaira isn't the first (nor will she be the last) to sample or interpolate or cover other artists' work). Hiphop artist here and abroad do it all the time. Mainstream artists do it all the time (eg. Britney Spears, JLo, Beyoncé, Troye Sivan, etc.). Sometimes they pay. Sometimes they don't (and no it isn't always illegal. Usually if you wanna make a buck off of your song, you gotta pay. Doesn't mean you can't just publish it if you don't though. I mean there are loopholes) Anyway, my point is please keep making that sweet, sweet Bangsamoro music and bless us with your gift. Shaira's doing her thing and it's cool to finally see her getting mainstream attention (i hope her team makes use of all this free promo.) Anyway, we can't for you to start killing it. Good luck!
Sa senate nga eh.
and masyado kasi ninonormalize to as in to the fact na nagiging toxic culture narin sa ating mga Pilipino and hindi nakaka proud yun my god
here is a not a joke but will make us look like clowns special example is fiesta of somewhere in cavite you can hear music playing, remixes of what should be copyrighted music and those who were playing the music is from the parade itself and popo's then the multi cabs with speakers have the candidates face saying that it came from their own pockets lol. I bet it's the confiscated remix music sa mga talipapa at markets. Then a friend of mine said some computers from the police station use pirated windows software hahaha what in the world I love me govmnt🤭😉🙃.
This applies to any instance when someone gets caught doing something wrong. Shit riders/drivers, petty criminals, politicians... it doesn't matter. The common thread is concepts like personal ethics or responsibility are completely alien to them. Zero sympathy for them. They are the real problem.
Not defending them, but since this has been resolved by the involved parties, what's the point of bringing it up pa? Internet points? Idgi. If you want to raise awareness of teach them a lesson, shaming isn't the best way to go my man.
Not just Lenka though, as there are like three more songs that contained copyrighted material, therefore di pa tapos ang issue.
Then all the more shaming them won't add them to the fold no?
If those people want to know or to be convinced, anyway.
Well, we all can't be hating brother.
Not everyone hates if some of their comments indicate, though. Some hate while others poke fun of (if not mock) errant behavior. How people wanna behave, basta panindigan nila kahit anong resulta.
Welcome to r/PH. Where a month old issue will still be given attention by saying the same hate over and over again.
And where being rational is considered toxic positivity. Come in, we have cookies.
yeah exactly we should shame them even more let them know their place
Lol those people (for example, the toxic Filipinos in Lenka's IG comment section) are literally condoning copyright infringement just because “pinasikat” daw nung Shaira yung music ni Lenka. Sobrang baluktot ng “logic” and they deserve to be shamed for that 🤷🏻♀️ Enough with the toxic positivity lmao
I'm not trying to be positive about it. Not at all. Remember, I'm with all of you on this. Just saying that if shaming them didn't work the first time, what makes us think that it'll work this time?
Because they weren't shamed, not really. We shield people we like from any real consequence.
Because there are many many people out there who condone this BS as evidenced in the many comments about this issue, on Lenka's IG posts, on Tiktok, wherever? How would you effectively persuade them to agree that copyright infringement is wrong then?
I havent figured the answer to it yet. But shaming or alienation isnt the answer.
Not entirely shaming to be completely honest, in fact sila pa nga may gana mang gaslight at mang pahiya kaagad to deflect the card, at pag sinubukan mo pa rin sila i-kindly correct, ikaw pa rin ang babarahin nila pabalik. Some people just don't want to be corrected, pero gusto nila lagi ang audacity at entitlement all the time.
You have a good point, anon. I guess sakin lang, no need to rub it in their faces if we already know it didn't work the first time. Not to stop, but to look for a different approach.
They arent attacking the people involved though, they are bringing up the toxicity of Filipinos and how we react toward things like this. Its not just in plagiarism, its in EVERYTHING. Makes me sick
Exactly. I don't get the point of the other person's comment since hindi pa tapos mang-bash yung mga toxic Shaira fans kay Lenka, and these people need to be shamed for them to learn. About time someone calls out the very toxic Pinoy trait of condoning copyright infringement
Hindi nga copyright lang eh, lahat. May na rape - "oh tingnan mo naman suot kasi" "talagang maraming rapist dyan" corruption - "eh eto naman ginawa nya kaya okay lang" theft - "kawawa naman ang tao eh ayaw pag bigyan kahit isa lang" Kaya hindi umuunlad ang Pilipinas kasi kahit ano solusyon, meron naman halos kokontra dahil wala eh ganyan lang talaga ang kasanayan. Filipino Culture at its finest.
They don’t learn. Look at your dds friends. Dds padin 2024 na.
Well true. But I would rather that I failed to convince them otherwise more than they don't learn.
Kung gusto mo magpakasanto, okay lang. Holy week naman. Pero wag ka namimilit or nag-iinsinuate na you have some moral high ground. Di lahat may kabaitan ng puso mo na kaya pa ring tantanan mga kagaguhan ng "masa."
Never did I say na I am on any moral high ground. I have worked with the "masa" you talk about and have given multiple jobs and have seen change. Possible to change even the most arrogant "masa". Alas, isang tao lang ako. We need to work together to institute change.
Did u work w natdems man? Legit q
Ah no. Private sector lang with no political affiliations. I want to keep it that way too.
Upvote because of the visuals sa baba.
Missed opportunity with the mental gymnastics jumping through hoops.
masasabi kaya nila yan pag sila mismo gumawa ng kanta pero di sumikat? tas ninakaw lang kanta nila, iniba konti, tas kumita ng milyones? tas sila nganga na lang sa nilalangaw nilang kanta sa youtube
Someone mentioned ‘Piracy’ Who remembers limewire and TristanCafe ?? Talamak yun during past decade…
there's that quote na never kang makikipag asaran sa mga bobo kase hahatakin ka nila sa level ng kabobohan na dun sila'y mga veterano.
No integrity.
As usual, makikita mo rin yung mga ganiyang tao, nagri-reflect din sa kanila kung sino ang binoto nila last election. Jusko!
Add mo yung mga nireupload na old tv clips pero may watermark nung nagupload akala mo kanila yung clip na nagtatrabaho sa TV network lol
Was wondering how toni gonzaga or andrew e got away with thier song since i think one of thier songs have elements from other famous artists (not sure about the right term to use here)
Pag Pinoy naman knopya “Penoooy Fried”!
Hahaha kaya nga numba 1 senator nila si padilla e HAHAHA
Sure ka na normalize sa Pinoy yan? Eh bakit parang ini-report yan then yung iba pang case tulad nung nagtaguyod ng OMD Optical Media Board during those times na hinuhuli at dinudurog ang mga pirated CDs and DVDs na imported from other countries especially from Europe and Asia. Makikita mo naman sa pinapanuod mo na ibang lahi ang nanunuod at umuubo sa sinehan hindi mga Pinoy 🤣🤣🤣 meaning galing sa ibang bansa ang pumirata. For you to say na normalized sa Pinoy ang copyright infringement sorry ire-evaluate mo ang topic mo. Basta may mai-post lang ng hindi nag iisip
OP i think u need to have a critical understanding of class war and power dynamics…
This is what happens when there's a lack of mental institutions. they all flock to socmed. this is actual mental illness.
More like, a law for thee but not for me.
Nice depiction of mental gymnastics.
Who made this meme? Would like to give credit to the original creator.
Basta ctto, di ko alam kung saan haha /s
Lahi ang pilipino ng mga panatiko sa mga huwad na lingkod bayan, nagtaka ka pa san nila hinuhugot yan.
Binubully ko nga mga bobo na yan sa fb eh direkta ko minimention tas sasabihang bobo, partida real name ko gamit ko dun. Yung IQ nila parang spaghetti kase pababa nang pababa😆
Normalized kasi magnakaw sa atin eh. Kita nyo ba naman mga binoboto as president.
"Hindi ka naman namin kilala eh"
sinong bang pinoy umamin pag nahuli parang wala naman. kung meron man ayon sinisisi pa ginawan ng di maganda. take it from the politics and showbiz personalities and now our journalist twisting on thier own agenda even if its wrong.
Naalala ko na naman. Yung cheater kong naka-date, kinopya yung disclaimer na naka-pin sa profile ko sa Facebook. Cheater na nga magnanakaw pa ng post. Bwisit ka talaga Joshua.
Ganyan tlga ugali lalo na mga muslim pag na offend mo ung isang kalahi nila buong baranggay gaganti
di ko gets kung bakit dinedefend nila yung kantang yan. ang pangit-pangit naman?
I hope we could chill down with the generalization just because a minority of the population did something that is embarrasing or bad. Not all Filipino defend the wrong side, you should know that.
Kasuka
Chop Suey 🤝 Ordertaker
r/philippines more like ihatephilippines Ganyan tayo mga Pilipino basta ganyan na. Wala nang reklamo.
THIS IS SO TRUEEE, my mum is also one of them 😫
Pangulo pa lang magnanakaw namemeke ng diploma ano pa ba iexpect
Sa totoo lang, walang kaganda ganda akong nakikita sa kanta ni shaira. Kahit sabihin pang walang copyright issue.
Kill pirates. Behead pirates. Roundhouse kick a pirate into granite. Slam dunk a pirate fetus into the trashcan.
If you consume stolen, pirated media, cracked versions of apps, they're the same thing. What she did is nothing new in the industry. It's full of sampling and interpolations. What she also did is very rampant in YouTube specially at the height of parodies, covers, and remixes. Once you upload it in a music streaming app for the purpose of monetisation is when it borders it. Asking permission to use it could've avoided or not uploading it on Spotify at all (which doesn't really do much as Spotify pays cents). Again, culture na ito sa Mindanao whenever a new song drops. They take the instrumentals or beat, add or change it a bit, and lalatagan ng bagong lyrics. Sometimes it's in Bisaya.
Im guilty of supporting online piracy lalo na sa movies and i know na mali yon and with that being said hindi ako nagagalit if mawala ang pinapanooran ko non or pag na call out , mali ka na nga galit ka pa! Pakisabe sa mga fans nung Shaira!
Nakakainis pa is continuous pa yung pag gamit nila nung song as Background Music sa Social Media Contents. Ang dami ding unofficial uploads sa Youtube nung Full Song. Kaya nga nag take down yung kampo niya para mas smooth yung pag asikaso ng cover license, kaso dahil sa ginagawa ng netizens ngayon baka mas lalo lang silang madiin niyan. Sana manahimik nalang muna at hayaan na maging official yung cover license, ng sa ganun pag legit na, pakinggan nila at gamitin nila sa content hanggang magsawa sila.
True. It’s their toxic Pinoy pride. That’s why they say that pride is the greatest sin
Kung bigla mawala lahat ng mga ganyan magisip, solved ang overpopulation hahaha
Sa tingin ko ha, di naman din kasalanan ni Shaira na mag boboom ung kanta nya. Sa sobrang daming spoof and parody songs sa tv bakit hindi nacocopyright diba? kung di sya sumikat, wala naman copyright eh. Masakit lang kase madami tao na binabash sya na magnanakaw what the heck! Yes copyright ung song nya and they voluntarilty removed it and now asking for a cover license. Bat ung iba ipagngulngulan pa sa mukha nya na ninakaw nya ung song? PERO YES MALI ANG MGA PINOY BASHING LENKA DIN TALAGA
i love the illustration!!!
That's why the Philippines is last in Asia!
Dapat i-require na ang fundamentals of logic sa pre-school, elem, hanggang college 🤣
Sasabihan ka pang talangka or kapwa mo rin pilipino hihila sayo pababa. Mga tanga
Coping lang rin yung mga taong ganyan kasi in reality, ganyan sila. Kaya when they see themselves in other people, they tend to defend it kasi ganun sila.
Simplify it for them. Sabihan sila na pag may pera or achievement ka, kunin ko pero bawal ka magalit.
Can anyone explain this context in simple terms
Kasi sa utak nila nauna si Shaira at nasaktan sila na mali sila ng akala.
yung former president nga nagka gentlemens agreement with China,, ultimate act of SEDITION nasa dugo na ng mga Pinoy
Anong masasabi niyo kay Andrew E and Parokya ni Edgar?
Tapos kapag may beauty queen na gumaya sa lakad at porma ni Catriona, ngumangawa ang mga hipokrito
What do you expect in a disgusting filthy *sorry for the word, 3rd world country like Philippines diba? Daming mamayang sa pilipinas ang tanga at close minded sa mga bagay bagay I was really ashamed of our kababayans I'm not generalizing having a shit mindset about some sort of things 🤦
Talented lng tlga pinoy mamirata
Haha, diko na alam. Feeling ko, nagsstem din sya sa victim mindset ng mga pinoy, kaya ganyan nalang sila maka defend. Or maybe I'm wrong. Sadyang walang sense of copyright and ownership mga pinoy.
What do you expect? Pati nga magnanakaw binuboto nila eh 🤷 PS. Hindi ako supporter ni ganito...
Not all of us defend copyright infringement.
I mean, some even normalized piracy 🤷
\*Posts some anti-Filipino material: Opinion of some dude based on the said material: "Thievery seems to be normalized in PH culture. Interestingly, I've read that their ancestors had similar culture hundreds of years ago. It seems that not even American nor Spanish could make them change or civilize them." \*Filipinos then attack the dude who made the opinion\* Honestly though, law enforcement is just as important as following them, so don't be afraid to hold everyone accountable for malicious crimes and learn to collect evidence.
Wait, I want to understand this but I fail to do so haha. Can you rephrase what you meant to say?
Filipinos post anti-Filipino material, gets upvotes. Some guy supports the anti-Filipino material and provides more anti-Filipino material, gets downvoted.
CTTO 1. Nilalagay lang CTTO kahit mismong original link di nilagay 2. CTTO pero imbis ishare link screenshot, mas malala cropped ung OP 3. CTTO downloaded yung original video tapos gagawa sya bagong video mula don sa OP Dami talaga magnacums sa Pinas, sa bagay halata kung sino binoto. 🤣
This is why Filipinos will *never* have nice things. They are inherently corrupt.
Do we do *anything* original?
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Stop the cancel culture!