I’m pretty annoyed with their announcement that VR support is going to be a standalone product instead of added into the existing game… gotta keep making us buy the same tables over and over again I suppose. Thankfully there’s always the Praydog mod.
VR takes plenty of resources with very little financial rewards for them (i.e. the market is incredibly tiny). So, yeah, I'm 100% a-ok with them charging those five hardcore VR users for that niche product.
Us "hard-core niche VR users" already can play pinballfx in vr for free. We would have appreciated an officially supported method, but there's no chance in hell I'm going to pay for all the tables again in a new product.
Honestly I'm just done with Zen at this point. They do nothing but cash grab. I can get all the tables in FX for free with VPX anyways, and it supports vr, and has better physics to boot.
Yeah, I’ve gotten to the point where I’ve realized VPX tables are just… better. That community is full of people like me who have seen the light on VR being *the* way to play digital pinball and nearly all of the top creators have embraced it already.
I’m going to stop buying Pinball FX content here. Maybe I’ll buy Zen’s originals I want in the VR app when they’re on sale and the best Pinball M stuff I can play with UEVR, but all of the Williams/Bally tables are already in VPX and usually better… oh and there’s Stern, Data East, Sega, Capcom, and Gottlieb tables too!
I had no idea VPX was a thing until just now and...holy shit, I am so fucking excited. Thank you for making me aware of it.
There's an old Dr. Who table (daleka have a 3 door event that raises up out of the floor?), and Adam's Family are ones I want to get immediately. Pinbot too. Do you have any other tables you'd recommend? Those 3 and the Hobbit are some of my favorites.
Cool, sounds like you don't need a niche VR product then! And by not buying it, you'll dissuade the devs from further wasting time developing VR for the other four VR fans that do want it.
There’s a middle of the road solution where Zen charges a $20 VR expansion fee to make everybody happy. The developers of Zaccaria have offered all of their tables in VR this way and they’re a lot smaller than Zen. Plus it’s really just one of those features they should be adding for the love of the enthusiasts. You know, like cabinet support? There are *way* fewer people out there with huge, expensive digital pinball cabinets in their homes than VR headsets that can be had for $200… and I personally think VR is the superior way to play. Like Mel said himself, he’s aware of people like us who never want to go back to playing pinball on a flat screen after we’ve experienced them in VR.
Your knowledge on the VR market is very outdated and frankly incorrect. The sales of the Meta Quest have hit at least 20 million and has, surprisingly, kept pace with the number of Xbox Series X|S consoles out there.
[Meta Has Sold Nearly 20 Million Quest Headsets (uploadvr.com)](https://www.uploadvr.com/meta-sold-20-million-quests/)
So unless you're looking to propose the hilarious argument that one of the big three console manufacturers has acrued a niche audience as well, it'd be worth admitting you don't know what you're talking about in this instance.
Compared to the overall games market, it's still very niche. That's just... true. But don't tell those VR stans that. They'll continue to pretend that VR is a "thing" with a wide audience. It's not, and there's been no "killer app" for VR to widen its audience.
It's also one reason that devs like zen have to make a separate product and charge for it in hopes of recouping costs.
Selling "OMG 20 million quests" doesn't mean there's necessarily much of a market for Zen on that or that those people even use the meta that much. I've got several friend who bought the meta quest (It's a nifty toy), but hardly use it or buy much for it.
I don't know any of you are surprised, this was always going to be the case. I called this months ago in the VR beg thread, and have repeated it elsewhere since.
It was always going to be a rounded product aimed at the meta quest. Unlike last time though because of the UEVR injector, we need not concern ourselves with the port that zen will no doubt double dip with on steam.
I'm starting to understand though the malaise about Zen being underhand and unobvious as a developer though. There's very little if any upfront and honest. Zen need to look at what most others in the niche bracket are doing these days in the way they embrace and respond with honesty.
Yeah, I asked the developers numerous times to at least tell us their intentions with VR so we could plan accordingly. I actually bit the bullet on just getting the PC tables as soon as I saw the YouTube video on UEVR. It's a pretty good solution with the exception of tables that have multiple play fields since the camera won't automatically adjust and you have to pause and move over.
Truth is I've been playing VPX VR about 90% of the time anyways. I'm going to probably hold off on most Zen stuff now besides their better original tables when they're on sale. Perhaps I will also buy the Meta app when it's on sale since there is something appealing about just being able to hop in a native app and not deal with some of the frustrations of PCVR.
I’m hoping they do the right thing and do a free update for PC and PS5 users that enables VR. No way in hell am I buying tables again for VR. As much as I love playing in VR they aren’t getting any more money from me for the same content. As it stands, I will continue to use the UEVR mod for free if they think they’re going to charge for it.
In [yesterday’s Pinball Bites](https://youtu.be/tEOrT1rkAUc?si=UnieTUOTaRO4SY4x) at 2:20 he mentions the project is in partnership with Meta, so it’s definitely a standalone product… and look, I think it’s a great idea to make such a game where a casual user can just put their Quest headset on and play some pinball without any further complications, but I think it’s also a bit of a slap in the face to ignore all of the people like us who have bought so many PC or PS5 tables and have been begging for VR to be incorporated into these versions of the game too. Having to buy all of the tables yet again on yet another platform sucks. Had they at least told us this was their intentions years ago, I could have just waited for the standalone Quest game but the best they could give us was “teeheehee, we love VR” and periodically tease us about support. I even straight up asked if their intentions were a standalone product or internal FX support so I could plan accordingly and of course nothing.
So they haven't actually stated it's stand alone. For meta yes, but nothing on pc and Ps5.
The whole thing not mentioning other platforms most likely comes down to the partnership contract with meta. When pinball FX was going through the whole start up on epic game store, they didn't mention steam till the end.
Hopefully that's the case. Or perhaps if they make it standalone on Steam and such they could still find a way to take care of players who have purchased the FX versions already. You're right. Nothing certain yet.
I cannot fathom why on earth they have announced it. 12 months out. Nothing but a single screenshot. Can't/won't answer questions about exclusivity.
Why bother announcing it now? Why not wait 6 months?
Let me fix that for you:
*"Cause a tiny handful of people have asked for it now and again"*
And if that is the reason they announced it a year out with one screenshot and no specificity about platforms then they need to, once again, reevaluate their communication practices.
A tiny handful of people might be more than you see, they might get other forns of communication about it. It's like cabinet mode, not everyone but enough wanted it.
An honest question, are you new to gaming?
Not ripping on you, announced games have been announced with a single screen shot of a title. Some have been just said "oh we started developing X game". Check out duke nukem forever development or cyberpunk.
Yes. I'm fairly new. I got my first gaming device in 1978. Very wet behind the ears.
Listen, dude - it's Saturday. Not up for crossed words today.
They have been too vague about VR. End of. They should have said one of the three following statements:
"VR coming in a year exclusively to Meta Quest"
"VR coming in a year initially exclusively to Meta Quest and then other platforms at a later date."
"VR coming in a year, partnered with Meta, but launching across all VR platforms."
I don't see how any of this is complicated. If you want to find me an example of a game announcement where the developers didn't state what platform/s the game was heading to I'll have a look at it.
Does this example make sense to you?
Person A is heavily into VR, own a PSVR2 heaset and wants to know if Pinball FX and its Williams tables are coming to VR any time soon. He leaves messages asking on YouTube videos. He emails Zen. He drops comments and asks on social media.
After waiting months Zen finally announce what Person A has been waiting for. They announce Pinball FX VR. They announce the Williams tables in VR. They say "partnered with Meta" and then say fuck all else.
Is Person A either more - or less informed concerrning his questions he had and how excited can he get from this announcement?
I don’t understand the piece about not being able to set sales on platform such as Xbox on your own schedule.
From within Partner Center (Xbox) publishers can set sales within the pricing and availability module at any point.
This is not the situation in our case. We get invited to themed sales with a set date and set amount of packs you can delegate. We know of the tool, but it might be reserved for select companies
Over all I agree but I will say the William's Tables feel more accurate in FX compared to 3 between the two. I do like 3's interface more for switching between tables. I really don't care for the virtual room in FX that makes it feel like a cheap ps2 title interface wise.
Yeah, no. FX has ray tracing, 4k support, HDR and physics that are much better than FX3. Not to mention, many new tables that will never be on the ancient deprecated FX3 platform.
FX has way worse lighting than FX3. It can have all the ray tracing and 4K you want. Unreals lighting is nowhere near as good as their in house custom engines was.
Still playing FX3 on Switch, still happy.
People say they needed income to fund development. I understand the argument, but I've spent probably $100-$150 on tables for FX3 and Star Wars Pinball. More than I spent on many indie and Triple A titles.
Aren't most games nowadays a 'one and done' affair, with consumers pushing back against micro transactions and in game currency?
Even if 90% of consumers don't spend a dime on MTX (arbitrary number), the 10% that do seem to be the Whales that truly fund those games. Vocal majority can push back all we want, but MTX still exists decades later. It honestly needs to exist though unless we want $120 base price games instead of $60-$70. Alternatively, we get sequels that would have been DLC, but for full retail and more often.
Or so the theory goes.
The option to buy Pinball Coins will be present until August 2024, and we will phase out both Coins and Pass in December, 2024. If you have a Pinball Pass subscription that exceeds this date, that will of course be valid and supported until expiration.
It’s wild how fragmented their products are. They must have dozens of game releases across all their platforms that are mostly the same tables repackaged in various ways.
[I tried to warn y'all about that.](https://www.reddit.com/r/PinballFX3/comments/15stdzx/comment/jwheueg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
>Well, there are 24 other letters in the English alphabet for them to officially use for their naming conventions. Examples:
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>Pinball FX - primary platform
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>Pinball M - horror platform
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>Pinball VR - virtual reality
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>Pinball ESPN - sport themed tables
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>Pinball G - family tables
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>Pinball PG13 - teenage tables
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>Pinball R - more aggressive than PG13, but not as much as M themed tables
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>Pinball X - naughty bits
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>Pinball SAT - 🤓
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>Pinball Z - boring tables to help insomniacs get some sleep
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>Be patient... these things take time to develop.
Preaching to the choir here, I’ve been annoyed by the lack of product cohesion since the first games and that was damn near fifteen years ago. I’d always hoped it would get better but NOPE.
The physics on the Williams tables is far superior in FX, at least if your interest is a feeling similar to the real tables.
I wish it weren't so, as the menus are snappier and the load times are substantially shorter on my computer with FX3.
FX has better physics, lighting, etc. Unless you're on Switch which FX3 is better as it can't handle the newer engine. FX3 does have better sound mix though, the levels on FX still need constant tuning per table.
Not true for me on XSX. FX looks and plays better than FX3. I mostly play Williams tables. But FX3 is play anywhere so I can play it both on my Xbox and my PC arcade cabinet with dozens of tables I've collected over the years.
And we get a free Euro Cup football table for Free to claim for ever for one week, next week.
So give Zen studios and little respect especially when any changes happen because of the fandom and not what they feel will work while testing behind the second.
If you go say fx3 is still better game then just mod your tablet in or please shut and just Play the FX instead that is getting updated with new content and big fixes.
As I would hate to see a bug or features in fx3 and then realized that it has been fixed or added to FX but never officially fx3
A few months ago I bought Pinball Pass for the year with the assumption that all new tables will be available is that no longer the case? I wanted the new TV pinball games so I will have to just buy them.
Haven't played FX in over six months, but I don't think they ever said "all new tables" would be available. I think it even gives you a heads up before you buy it that not all tables will be available
They HAD a solid business plan in place with tables paid for a la cart. They scrapped it due to an extremely vocal minority. The v bucks style of currency would have been Perfect. Will we see that attempted again?
Disagree, the way they announced their model early on was not done well and turned many people off. It made people think the tables were more expensive just for buying them solo.
Without day 1 features to reduce prices further like the Bundle Discounts, Brand Discounts, and ways to zero out the balance, that model was doomed to fail.
Without ever confirming cross-buy on top of that, it pretty much sealed the deal.
I’m pretty annoyed with their announcement that VR support is going to be a standalone product instead of added into the existing game… gotta keep making us buy the same tables over and over again I suppose. Thankfully there’s always the Praydog mod.
Just use UEVR. It's free and works as well as their versions ever have.
VR takes plenty of resources with very little financial rewards for them (i.e. the market is incredibly tiny). So, yeah, I'm 100% a-ok with them charging those five hardcore VR users for that niche product.
Us "hard-core niche VR users" already can play pinballfx in vr for free. We would have appreciated an officially supported method, but there's no chance in hell I'm going to pay for all the tables again in a new product. Honestly I'm just done with Zen at this point. They do nothing but cash grab. I can get all the tables in FX for free with VPX anyways, and it supports vr, and has better physics to boot.
Yeah, I’ve gotten to the point where I’ve realized VPX tables are just… better. That community is full of people like me who have seen the light on VR being *the* way to play digital pinball and nearly all of the top creators have embraced it already. I’m going to stop buying Pinball FX content here. Maybe I’ll buy Zen’s originals I want in the VR app when they’re on sale and the best Pinball M stuff I can play with UEVR, but all of the Williams/Bally tables are already in VPX and usually better… oh and there’s Stern, Data East, Sega, Capcom, and Gottlieb tables too!
I had no idea VPX was a thing until just now and...holy shit, I am so fucking excited. Thank you for making me aware of it. There's an old Dr. Who table (daleka have a 3 door event that raises up out of the floor?), and Adam's Family are ones I want to get immediately. Pinbot too. Do you have any other tables you'd recommend? Those 3 and the Hobbit are some of my favorites.
Cool, sounds like you don't need a niche VR product then! And by not buying it, you'll dissuade the devs from further wasting time developing VR for the other four VR fans that do want it.
There’s a middle of the road solution where Zen charges a $20 VR expansion fee to make everybody happy. The developers of Zaccaria have offered all of their tables in VR this way and they’re a lot smaller than Zen. Plus it’s really just one of those features they should be adding for the love of the enthusiasts. You know, like cabinet support? There are *way* fewer people out there with huge, expensive digital pinball cabinets in their homes than VR headsets that can be had for $200… and I personally think VR is the superior way to play. Like Mel said himself, he’s aware of people like us who never want to go back to playing pinball on a flat screen after we’ve experienced them in VR.
Your knowledge on the VR market is very outdated and frankly incorrect. The sales of the Meta Quest have hit at least 20 million and has, surprisingly, kept pace with the number of Xbox Series X|S consoles out there. [Meta Has Sold Nearly 20 Million Quest Headsets (uploadvr.com)](https://www.uploadvr.com/meta-sold-20-million-quests/) So unless you're looking to propose the hilarious argument that one of the big three console manufacturers has acrued a niche audience as well, it'd be worth admitting you don't know what you're talking about in this instance.
You think you might be able to tell everyone how many copies/downloads of Pinball FX3 VR and Star Wars Pinball VR were sold by Zen?
Compared to the overall games market, it's still very niche. That's just... true. But don't tell those VR stans that. They'll continue to pretend that VR is a "thing" with a wide audience. It's not, and there's been no "killer app" for VR to widen its audience. It's also one reason that devs like zen have to make a separate product and charge for it in hopes of recouping costs. Selling "OMG 20 million quests" doesn't mean there's necessarily much of a market for Zen on that or that those people even use the meta that much. I've got several friend who bought the meta quest (It's a nifty toy), but hardly use it or buy much for it.
Idk man, I don't have the funds to throw at VR, but I'd be buying Beat Saber day one and I'm not even that much of a rhythm guy.
I don't know any of you are surprised, this was always going to be the case. I called this months ago in the VR beg thread, and have repeated it elsewhere since. It was always going to be a rounded product aimed at the meta quest. Unlike last time though because of the UEVR injector, we need not concern ourselves with the port that zen will no doubt double dip with on steam. I'm starting to understand though the malaise about Zen being underhand and unobvious as a developer though. There's very little if any upfront and honest. Zen need to look at what most others in the niche bracket are doing these days in the way they embrace and respond with honesty.
Yeah, I asked the developers numerous times to at least tell us their intentions with VR so we could plan accordingly. I actually bit the bullet on just getting the PC tables as soon as I saw the YouTube video on UEVR. It's a pretty good solution with the exception of tables that have multiple play fields since the camera won't automatically adjust and you have to pause and move over. Truth is I've been playing VPX VR about 90% of the time anyways. I'm going to probably hold off on most Zen stuff now besides their better original tables when they're on sale. Perhaps I will also buy the Meta app when it's on sale since there is something appealing about just being able to hop in a native app and not deal with some of the frustrations of PCVR.
I’m hoping they do the right thing and do a free update for PC and PS5 users that enables VR. No way in hell am I buying tables again for VR. As much as I love playing in VR they aren’t getting any more money from me for the same content. As it stands, I will continue to use the UEVR mod for free if they think they’re going to charge for it.
Can you link to where it is said it's a stand alone product?
In [yesterday’s Pinball Bites](https://youtu.be/tEOrT1rkAUc?si=UnieTUOTaRO4SY4x) at 2:20 he mentions the project is in partnership with Meta, so it’s definitely a standalone product… and look, I think it’s a great idea to make such a game where a casual user can just put their Quest headset on and play some pinball without any further complications, but I think it’s also a bit of a slap in the face to ignore all of the people like us who have bought so many PC or PS5 tables and have been begging for VR to be incorporated into these versions of the game too. Having to buy all of the tables yet again on yet another platform sucks. Had they at least told us this was their intentions years ago, I could have just waited for the standalone Quest game but the best they could give us was “teeheehee, we love VR” and periodically tease us about support. I even straight up asked if their intentions were a standalone product or internal FX support so I could plan accordingly and of course nothing.
So they haven't actually stated it's stand alone. For meta yes, but nothing on pc and Ps5. The whole thing not mentioning other platforms most likely comes down to the partnership contract with meta. When pinball FX was going through the whole start up on epic game store, they didn't mention steam till the end.
Hopefully that's the case. Or perhaps if they make it standalone on Steam and such they could still find a way to take care of players who have purchased the FX versions already. You're right. Nothing certain yet.
I cannot fathom why on earth they have announced it. 12 months out. Nothing but a single screenshot. Can't/won't answer questions about exclusivity. Why bother announcing it now? Why not wait 6 months?
Cause people keep asking for it.
Let me fix that for you: *"Cause a tiny handful of people have asked for it now and again"* And if that is the reason they announced it a year out with one screenshot and no specificity about platforms then they need to, once again, reevaluate their communication practices.
A tiny handful of people might be more than you see, they might get other forns of communication about it. It's like cabinet mode, not everyone but enough wanted it. An honest question, are you new to gaming? Not ripping on you, announced games have been announced with a single screen shot of a title. Some have been just said "oh we started developing X game". Check out duke nukem forever development or cyberpunk.
Yes. I'm fairly new. I got my first gaming device in 1978. Very wet behind the ears. Listen, dude - it's Saturday. Not up for crossed words today. They have been too vague about VR. End of. They should have said one of the three following statements: "VR coming in a year exclusively to Meta Quest" "VR coming in a year initially exclusively to Meta Quest and then other platforms at a later date." "VR coming in a year, partnered with Meta, but launching across all VR platforms." I don't see how any of this is complicated. If you want to find me an example of a game announcement where the developers didn't state what platform/s the game was heading to I'll have a look at it. Does this example make sense to you? Person A is heavily into VR, own a PSVR2 heaset and wants to know if Pinball FX and its Williams tables are coming to VR any time soon. He leaves messages asking on YouTube videos. He emails Zen. He drops comments and asks on social media. After waiting months Zen finally announce what Person A has been waiting for. They announce Pinball FX VR. They announce the Williams tables in VR. They say "partnered with Meta" and then say fuck all else. Is Person A either more - or less informed concerrning his questions he had and how excited can he get from this announcement?
Ok an example, the beginning of Pinball FX.
I don’t understand the piece about not being able to set sales on platform such as Xbox on your own schedule. From within Partner Center (Xbox) publishers can set sales within the pricing and availability module at any point.
Plus tons of games have day 1 sales. They acted like they never released a game on Xbox before
This is not the situation in our case. We get invited to themed sales with a set date and set amount of packs you can delegate. We know of the tool, but it might be reserved for select companies
Whatever happened to Pinball Royale?
They had a closed beta what felt like two years ago and then... Nothing to announce.
FX is so much worse than FX3. 3 was just more cohesive and more enjoyable.
Over all I agree but I will say the William's Tables feel more accurate in FX compared to 3 between the two. I do like 3's interface more for switching between tables. I really don't care for the virtual room in FX that makes it feel like a cheap ps2 title interface wise.
That's why I went back to FX3 and still play the weekly challenge
Yeah, no. FX has ray tracing, 4k support, HDR and physics that are much better than FX3. Not to mention, many new tables that will never be on the ancient deprecated FX3 platform.
FX has way worse lighting than FX3. It can have all the ray tracing and 4K you want. Unreals lighting is nowhere near as good as their in house custom engines was.
Glad they are giving the soccer game away for free, used to have it on fx2
For a few days yes not entirely free. May 16-23
You'll be able to keep it forever if you claim it!
That's great! I thought it was a free trial type of thing, glad to know!
Still playing FX3 on Switch, still happy. People say they needed income to fund development. I understand the argument, but I've spent probably $100-$150 on tables for FX3 and Star Wars Pinball. More than I spent on many indie and Triple A titles. Aren't most games nowadays a 'one and done' affair, with consumers pushing back against micro transactions and in game currency?
Even if 90% of consumers don't spend a dime on MTX (arbitrary number), the 10% that do seem to be the Whales that truly fund those games. Vocal majority can push back all we want, but MTX still exists decades later. It honestly needs to exist though unless we want $120 base price games instead of $60-$70. Alternatively, we get sequels that would have been DLC, but for full retail and more often. Or so the theory goes.
I haven't seen the news about pinball pass. Is it already gone or will they remove it soon?
The option to buy Pinball Coins will be present until August 2024, and we will phase out both Coins and Pass in December, 2024. If you have a Pinball Pass subscription that exceeds this date, that will of course be valid and supported until expiration.
Thank you!
Meh. I'll wait for a sale on the upcoming TV show table pack solely for BSG, and that's likely the only money Zen will get out of me on this platform.
BSG?
Battlestar Galactica. Part of the pack with Xena and Knight Rider.
ty!
Yes, it is a thing that exists.
So FX3 was better than the new one in every single aspect :)
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It’s wild how fragmented their products are. They must have dozens of game releases across all their platforms that are mostly the same tables repackaged in various ways.
[I tried to warn y'all about that.](https://www.reddit.com/r/PinballFX3/comments/15stdzx/comment/jwheueg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) >Well, there are 24 other letters in the English alphabet for them to officially use for their naming conventions. Examples: > >\~\~\~\~\~ > >Pinball FX - primary platform > >Pinball M - horror platform > >Pinball VR - virtual reality > >Pinball ESPN - sport themed tables > >Pinball G - family tables > >Pinball PG13 - teenage tables > >Pinball R - more aggressive than PG13, but not as much as M themed tables > >Pinball X - naughty bits > >Pinball SAT - 🤓 > >Pinball Z - boring tables to help insomniacs get some sleep > >etc. > >\~\~\~\~ > >Be patient... these things take time to develop.
Preaching to the choir here, I’ve been annoyed by the lack of product cohesion since the first games and that was damn near fifteen years ago. I’d always hoped it would get better but NOPE.
They also released Pinball Masters through Netflix in February of this year
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But it did. FX3 has better ball physics, it works and rans better. FX has nothing better
FX3 physics are ass compared to FX. Well, they're ok if you want "ez mode" I guess.
The physics on the Williams tables is far superior in FX, at least if your interest is a feeling similar to the real tables. I wish it weren't so, as the menus are snappier and the load times are substantially shorter on my computer with FX3.
FX has better physics, lighting, etc. Unless you're on Switch which FX3 is better as it can't handle the newer engine. FX3 does have better sound mix though, the levels on FX still need constant tuning per table.
Not true for me on XSX. FX looks and plays better than FX3. I mostly play Williams tables. But FX3 is play anywhere so I can play it both on my Xbox and my PC arcade cabinet with dozens of tables I've collected over the years.
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Oh why is it shut down? Few people using it or it’s to good? Anyway, i’ve bought one bundle on fx, the rest i’ve got on fx3:)
I wanna say sales yea, I bought like one month when the game dropped but with the sales happening I just straight up bought the table instead
I can’t think of any other games I own that allow cross-platform purchases.
Destiny 2
If so, that's a very recent change. Either way, I only play on one platform and I'm not upset about not being able to change platforms.
And we get a free Euro Cup football table for Free to claim for ever for one week, next week. So give Zen studios and little respect especially when any changes happen because of the fandom and not what they feel will work while testing behind the second. If you go say fx3 is still better game then just mod your tablet in or please shut and just Play the FX instead that is getting updated with new content and big fixes. As I would hate to see a bug or features in fx3 and then realized that it has been fixed or added to FX but never officially fx3
You're misinterpreting. It's not free for only 1 week -- it's yours forever if you get it for free during that period.
Provided you're on a console, seems Steam platform is not getting it free that week, unless their announcement was wrong
We are working on including PC in the mix as well, hopefully we'll have good news soon
A few months ago I bought Pinball Pass for the year with the assumption that all new tables will be available is that no longer the case? I wanted the new TV pinball games so I will have to just buy them.
Haven't played FX in over six months, but I don't think they ever said "all new tables" would be available. I think it even gives you a heads up before you buy it that not all tables will be available
Existing Pinball Pass purchases will be supported until expiration!
They HAD a solid business plan in place with tables paid for a la cart. They scrapped it due to an extremely vocal minority. The v bucks style of currency would have been Perfect. Will we see that attempted again?
Disagree, the way they announced their model early on was not done well and turned many people off. It made people think the tables were more expensive just for buying them solo. Without day 1 features to reduce prices further like the Bundle Discounts, Brand Discounts, and ways to zero out the balance, that model was doomed to fail. Without ever confirming cross-buy on top of that, it pretty much sealed the deal.