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Makachai

He either DID have sex with a pornstar, and then paid her off to keep her quiet to influence the election. Or he didn't have sex with her and paid her off anyways, which makes him the dumbest businessman ever.


Sara_Ludwig

If you followed the trial, he definitely did have sex with Stormy. He’s a pathological liar and uses constant word salad to manipulate his followers.


semiTnuP

>If you followed the trial, If you did, you're better at it than Trump was. He didn't follow the trial and *it was his fucking trial!*


Fred_Buck

I was awake during his trial longer than he was. 


stop_drop_roll

He was thinking really hard /s


NewAndImprovedJess

You're already more qualified to be president than he is.


GoopyNoseFlute

There’s a potato in my pantry more qualified to be president than Trump is.


siandresi

I bet the potato won’t try to give cabinet positions to the sprouts


GoopyNoseFlute

Sprouts who were denied security clearance.


Fred_Buck

Nothing but the best compost! 


thisbitbytes

Hold up. Compost is hard working and extremely beneficial to humans. Please don’t besmirch compost by association.


NewAndImprovedJess

Potato 2024! Just kidding, I'm voting for Biden (or whoever the Dems put up) no matter what.


Aj2W0rK

It was the most he could do from acting up and getting himself jailed


siandresi

He doesn’t care about what actually happens, only what he says about it…..remember; they have alternative facts, as they so well put it when this nightmare started with climate denier Trump, who thinks he could get people inspired into making a covid vaccine by talking of the disinfectant properties of bleach during a press conference


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Makachai

I know he did. I was more commenting on the absurdity of him saying he didn't, and still paying her... which his mouth breathing followers believe, and then in the next breath say he's a genius businessman.


Suspicious_Bicycle

I'm rather surprised Trump didn't sue Stormy for defamation before the election. We all know he would have lost that suit if it had gone to trial. But in typical Trump fashion he would have dropped it after the election and it no longer mattered.


peachy175

If he had tried suing, the case would have had to go through discovery and it would have come to light that she wasn't lying about anything, thereby screwing himself. He's really stupid so I betcha he wanted to do it but was advised not to.


Suspicious_Bicycle

Trump has instigated multiple ridiculous lawsuits only to drop them at a later date before discovery gets underway. It generates headlines when the lawsuit is filed. The dropping of the suit generates far less press. It seems like many times the point of the suit is to get headlines or to harass the defendant, not really to win the case.


Infinite-Formal-9508

It's completely insane to me that he can just get up and lie during a presidential debate and suffer zero consequences.


mikerichh

Apparently it works because I saw a letter shared signed stormy Daniels saying she didn’t have sex with trump and MAGA shared it as truth. But she was paid to deny it so what did they expect LOL


rraattbbooyy

Or he just lies so frequently and so reflexively it doesn’t even matter.


JustAnotherYouMe

>Or he just lies so frequently and so reflexively it doesn’t even matter. Yeah I doubt there's a huge distinction in his mind between the truth and lies, he doesn't seem to care


abofh

With the pathological, the truth is secondary, what matters is what they want you to feel/believe. In a sense, he doesn't know what he's saying - he's trying to get the crowd to feel a certain way and will keep throwing his greatest hits at the crowd until one works. That's as close as he gets to positive reinforcement, so the cycle repeats. He's not lying (oh he definitely is) - because that's not important, whats important is him feeling better, and he just puts words out there for that purpose - if you thought he was trying to communicate rationally, look at his supporters and ask yourself if they're trying to hear rational communication.


85cdubya

It's not a lie if you believe it.


JustAnotherYouMe

>It's not a lie if you believe it. To those that believe it, yeah. It's still a lie though


85cdubya

Seinfeld episode. George costanza helping Jerry pass a lie detector. It was absolutely a joke!


dastardly740

With Trump it is more if he just makes some shit up that happens to be true, he is still just making shit up.


dgdio

Imagine being Melania and being expected to believe these lies.


Buckus93

She doesn't really care, do you?


dgdio

She probably thanked Stormy Daniels for her service.


ic2ofu

Stormy is very happy, after all,she made $ 65,000 a minute.


takethemoment13

I hope that outfit is her entire legacy.


Dia-De-Los-Muertos

Well don't forget "fucking Christmas" and the rose garden. I'm sure there's others.


knowledgeable_diablo

Imagine the lies he told her at the start of their “courtship” anyway. “Sure babe, I’m single…and all those 13yr olds in my appartment are throwing themselves at ME. You’ve no idea how hard it is for me to try and dissuade them from having sex with me. Even after me buddy Epsteins finished with them. Strange how they all have a horse throat though, almost like repeditivly saying NO wears you out or something like that?!??” “Buuuuut anyway, if you let me put it in, I’ll guarantee you a green card. You just gotta let me do it once. Pleeeeeease!!”


Dia-De-Los-Muertos

Did you used to write for Playboy magazine ?


knowledgeable_diablo

Nah, I had class. It was for Hustler 😂


kuribosshoe0

I imagine it’s like breathing for him —Thanos


Suspicious_Bicycle

That's his special power. Trump lying again is a dog bites man or bus plunge story. It's so common we've just gotten used to it.


Cultural_Dust

Clinton just keeps watching and thinking "Damn and I got impeached for a bj".


cuspofgreatness

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Beltox2pointO

Is this one of those things where she was retired by the time he did it, so technically he didn't have sex with a porn star, just a woman that used to be a porn star?


DiRty_BiRd_77

Bit of a logic trap there isn’t it, Donnie?


Dia-De-Los-Muertos

"I'm not a puppet, you're a puppet".


edgarcia59

ArT oF tHe DeAl


melkatron

She is a porn DIRECTOR, sir... he had sex with a porn DIRECTOR (who also starred in porn).


Howboutit85

Why couldn’t Biden have just said that?


Mandurang76

Imagine paying 140k to a pornstar and not having sex with her. Seems to me he got screwed anyway.


whewtang

Art of the Dumb


Yitram

Shart of the Deal


ShitShowRedAllAbout

Are you talking about when Trump sharts at [1:16:22](https://www.youtube.com/live/-v-8wJkmwBY?si=T7_W3XJbgvpxkGcT&t=4581) in the CNN feed? Turn up the volume, right after "too much money. (audible wet fart!)It's tremendous!"


peachy175

OMG YOU CAN TOTALLY HEAR IT! He doesn't even break stride...also explains Joe's face for a few moments, too.


PinSufficient5748

Almost spit out my food 🤣😂


ElusoryLamb

Like this is what I wish Biden would have thrown out there. Like, "so you paid her to say you didn't have sex with her l, when you didn't? That's just bad business" Like I would love to see the random words out of his mouth to deal with that


DapperCourierCat

Imagine maybe or maybe not having sex with a porn star (that would have had minimal consequences if he did) and then paying her off which is a loss of $140k and then getting in legal trouble for that. I’m baffled about why she was paid off. It would not have had any consequences for his campaign if people knew he was out here having sex with porn stars.


VMCColorado

https://preview.redd.it/fbkq5c3xhlad1.jpeg?width=504&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16a7c176ea54381cf3fbd56e85ad75d26522b3f8


intheyear3001

Look at you, we got a real fucken Columbo here boys.


VMCColorado

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TheTonyExpress

Honestly the alley cat line made me literally lol


tizenxpro

He shouldn’t disrespect the alley cat with the comparison.


TheTonyExpress

He’s lost the all powerful alley cat caucus. It’s Joever.


predator1975

It is ok. The Florida pussy was never going to vote for Biden anyway.


Kennys-Chicken

My cats a reformed alley cat that followed me home and now sits on a lap almost all day. He’s a good boy. Trump is not a good boy.


cuspofgreatness

Yeah like I literally want a shirt that says that


WaitingForNormal

People who complain about biden’s performance should read the transcript, a lot of his answers were spot on.


simcowking

Minus the we defeated Medicare line.i can't recall if he ever finished that thought because they called time real close to that fumble. His words were great, his volume, tone, and cadence were weaker.


Biebou

I have found that reading the transcript for most debates/interviews helps understanding what is being said. It also really drives home the insane world salad that comes out of Trump.


cyon_me

Yeah, at one point he literally said that his supporters burned down cities because his brain did that weird thing where he switches from one topic to another without making a transition.


Colspex

I'm reading your comment... actually, i read a lot of comments here on Reddit. A lot of great ones. You know Reddit was actually founded many years ago... Years is a strange word when you say it. The A i silent. Ever noticed that? I always say. And believe me - I say a lot - but I always say ... not it's true - many beautiful words. That Reddit was - or is... Im not so sure any more. But it was a great place where people would say. They'd say "Donald Trump should have been in the Avengers.". Im not making this up. They wanted me to be a super hero in a billion dollar franchise. ...it's true - because they compare me to a super hero. *applause through the roof* Should I call Marvel? Or DC? I dont know. Maybe I should? They are probably trying to call me. I haven't checked.


Significant_Door_890

Nobody reads the transcript. Biden needs to be mouthing "liar", "projection", "puppet" whenever Trump is lying / projection/ or butt-smooking Putin. The mic is off, not the camera. If something is not true, his head should be shaking a clear nope, and his mouth reciting a "liar". He doesn't need to spent much time on rebuttle, just "another lie from that lying piece of shit over there". You don't need to be nice, the turd in Trump's adult dyper is worth more to America than Trump himself is.


FutureDictatorUSA

If you can’t articulate your vision on TV, who gives af about the transcript. No Regular person or undecided voter would read the transcript.


WaitingForNormal

“Your vision on tv”, yeah, washington and lincoln were so good at that.


Antique_Cricket_4087

It's lunacy that you're being downvoted for saying the obvious. Who the fuck reads a debate transcript?


WaitingForNormal

“Who the fuck reads a debate transcript”, yeah, why use your brain when you can use your *feelings*.


Antique_Cricket_4087

People watch debates, they don't read the transcripts. Has nothing to do with brains or feelings


WaitingForNormal

Some of us go on substance not sensationalism, but you seem to be happy in the latter. Little advice, maybe stop pretending to know what other people are doing, you really don’t.


Antique_Cricket_4087

>Little advice, maybe stop pretending to know what other people are doing, you really don’t. People watch the debate. Almost no one reads the transcripts. You don't need to read a transcript to get the substance. But I get it, the only way to remotely cover for Biden's awful performance is to focus on things that we have never before had to focus on... Like the transcripts.


WaitingForNormal

Wanna know what I hear, “I prefer HOW someone says something over WHAT they said.” Which makes sense, style over substance, not really caring what was said, not phased at all that the other guy just sat there and lied because he said it with gusto. Do you realize what that makes you sound like; an uninformed superficial voter. Sad.


Antique_Cricket_4087

Sooo you think Biden beat medicare? Or you think Biden killed it when he turned an abortion question into one about migrants killing women? I'm sorry but style has always been what Americans prefer. If it were about substance, Biden would never have made it out of that 2020 primary as the nominee. > Do you realize what that makes you sound like; an uninformed superficial voter. Sad. No shit, electability was Biden's selling point in the 2020 primary, there is nothing more superficial than that. Weird how you suddenly have an issue with voters.


whiterac00n

I have referred to him as a feral cat before (so I’m actually pretty glad Biden sees things similarly to what I do) due to his episodic behavior ie wakes up every day just to pick fights and deny doing this he couldn’t help himself from doing in the moment. The guy doesn’t have any foresight relies on just yelling “no i didn’t” as his ace in the hole.


Dia-De-Los-Muertos

You can imagine him as a kid covering up his ears with his hands and yelling "nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah". Actually I can imagine him doing that now.


Normal-Ordinary-4744

“We killed Medicare”


CurrentlyLucid

Then why pay her off with an NDA? He must think everyone is as stupid as he is.


mebjammin

He's been seeing a lot of evidence to support that theory unfortunately.


Buckus93

That's his voting base. People who are taken in by smooth-talking charlatans and believe people who pause and reflect on what they're about to say are weak.


mebjammin

Confirmation bias.


Rhg0653

When the hell is trump smooth talking?!


Buckus93

He probably makes sense to them.


sunward_Lily

Yeah his usual method is just to threaten them into silence.... maybe that only works for him when the victim is a thirteen year old girl he already raped.


peter-doubt

Imagine.. he could have used NFTs


BizzyM

> He must think everyone is as stupid as he is. Everyone that supports him is stupider than he thinks they are.


ComplexPants

But he did have sex with a minor by force…..


WorldsWeakestMan

That’s called raping a child where I’m from, Former President of The United States of America Donald John Trump raped a child… allegedly.


Cream_Cheese_Seas

He bragged about how he would barge into the dressing rooms on constestants at his pagents on Howard Stern's radio program. Four teen Miss American contestants said he did that to them.


Watch_me_give

*”If they were having his [Biden’s] last wake, and it was him versus Trump, and he was being given last rites, I would still vote for Joe Biden.”* -Mark Cuban


ComplexPants

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AbsolutlelyRelative

Where wad this said? I think I missed something.


Rhg0653

The Epstein released documents He also forced two minors to blow him and he got upset at them and treated them afterwards But ... No one's talking about it so


Dyrogitory

This was my second favorite part of the debate. The best part to me was when Trump couldn’t remember the names of the two terrorists that were removed during his term.


Scrandon

He claims he caught the biggest terrorist ever. When Obama got Bin Laden. He’s such a dumbass. 


TheBirminghamBear

That is where CNN should have cut off the mics, switched away to the fact-checking desk, and stated that unambiguously Trump just lied. It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he paid to have sex with an adult film actress. They should have done that for all fifty of the times Trump baldly fucking lied. Imagine if Biden was sprightly and energetic and just kept saying, "Donald Trump killed his first wife. Stabbed her to death. He did it. He definitely did it." Would everyone just be like, "Wow Joe is tough, Joe won the debate!" No. So why in the absolute holy fuck do we keep giving this orange fucking pants-shitting idiot the same benefit of the doubt.


AbsolutlelyRelative

Because we care about facts, the other sode gives no fucks.


lovemycats1

Sorry, but an alley cat has more morals than that shit bum trump.


dpenton

"I never had sex with a porn star" "That's true because I don't think Stormy Daniels is a star. Therefore, she is not a "porn" star. I guarantee that is how he thinks.


melkatron

She was also directing porn at the time, so he's probably patting himself on the back for having never been accused of having extramarital sex with a porn DIRECTOR.


torbaloymain

Biden's resting bitch face not aging well is the worst reason to not vote for Democracy in November.


atTheRiver200

Biden: it's still sex even if she couldn't feel it and you couldn't ejaculate.


AssumptionDeep774

I happen to have an orange barn cat. He would never stoop so low as to be comparable to that Cult Leader. Kitty may only have a couple brain cells but he’s got morals and scruples far beyond what the shameless kid diddling rapist thinks he has.


ShitShowRedAllAbout

My favorite moment is when you hear him at 1:16:22 on the CNN feed let loose a quick wet fart after saying "Because it's too much money. [(SHART)](https://www.youtube.com/live/-v-8wJkmwBY?si=2CRnXxBsmHRwGA2t&t=4582) It's tremendous!"


ov3rcl0ck

When he was talking about how much money was brought in by the tarrifs I wanted to scream, "And who paid those tarrifs? The USA citizens did you fucking moron!" What a weird thing to brag about.


ShitShowRedAllAbout

Ironically, the question was what will you do Americans struggling with drug addiction? Answer:💩💨


Lootthatbody

My favorite part was where he shit himself so violently that the mics picked it up.


SweetLeaf2021

???


Lootthatbody

I think it’s at 1:16 or so, on the official CNN video (so you know it hasn’t been altered or added), Trump is talking about tax cuts. He says the line ‘he couldn’t do it, it’s too much money,’ and he shits himself loud enough for the mic to catch. He also pauses just a split second before continuing. For a brief moment, he was projecting shit out both ends.


Avolto

I remember when: I did not have sex with that woman was the death knell of a president.


karenftx1

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[deleted]

I thought the funniest part was after Biden said the thing about carrying his own golf bags, then looked at trump and said “think you could do it” hahaha


thatgayguy12

Yes, Mr. "I don't pay my contractors for work they do on my property" went out of his way to pay a porn star who did nothing.


MarcusQuintus

He couldn't argue the molestation bit because Carroll could drag his ass back to court.


microvan

Biden looks rightfully disgusted by Trump. Maybe he did so poorly because Trump is stinky and it was distracting


EvanD2000

Trump can get revenge by suing her for slander, against which “truth” is a defence. I bet he won’t.


greaterthansignmods

No he can’t


EvanD2000

Why not? If it’s been injurious to him, and is untrue? He wasn’t president when the “slander” occured. Explain


greaterthansignmods

He paid her hush money after fucking her? Case closed


EvanD2000

I guess you got me on that 😉


Romano16

He did have sex with her. Before then it was 12 year old girls. But the #SaveTheChildren are no where to be found…


Red_Dox

The guy famous for not paying his debts and stealing money from charities, paid a pornstar $130.000 and made her sign a NDA, because he had not sex with her? Sure.


firebirdone

The problem is not his dumb supporters. They aren't going to change their votes. The problem is our friends and family who do not vote. Get them out to vote blue.


knowledgeable_diablo

Just put in the tip! And that doesn’t count. 😵‍💫


Jedi_Ninja

How dare Biden impinge the morality of alley cats by comparing them to Trump!!!


Caffeinist

>Number three, the crimes that you are still charged with – and think of all the civil penalties you have. How many billions of dollars do you owe in civil penalties for molesting a woman in public, for doing a whole range of things, of having sex with a porn star on the night – and – while your wife was pregnant? >I mean, what are you talking about? You have the morals of an alley cat. Everything that Biden said. The only thing Trump denied in that was having sex with a porn star.


rumrunner9652

Anyone else believe that he could pass a polygraph with ease? At this stage of the game I don’t think that he knows the difference between truth and fiction.


HadronLicker

Joe, don't insult cats, please.


MoveToRussiaAlready

This is far worse than paying $130,000 for sex. He paid $130,000 for what?


ShelterFromTheNorm

Biden ought to run an ad with all the Trump assault allegations to the tune of “Not Like Us” by KL.


buddhadoo

I especially like that in this exchange Biden also brought up the fact that he sexually assaulted a woman in public, just before saying he had sex with a porn star, and Trump's response was to deny the sex with the pornstar and completely omit the fact that he sexually assaulted a woman in public.


ohiooutdoorgeek

Are we still pretending that the sitting presidents visible senility isn’t a massive issue both politically and administratively?


GoobeNanmaga

That was the only sane moment by Biden.. TBH


AsyncEntity

Biden is too nice. He needs to be an asshole back.


FadedGeo

When you put it on a ledger , it is fact that you did it. FuCking idiot , he wanted to get a tax right off on it


Gyrestone91

My favorite moment is when Trump literally shit himself.


xtothewhy

Look they both look old. But trump blatantly lies so well whereas Biden just can't believe his shit is still going on. He trusted he could connect with the gop initially but that hope was quickly dashed and for some reason the Democrats still don't seem to have really figured that out.


dagross2307

We've come a long way since: "Ich bin ein Berliner."


Si_is_for_Cookie

Maybe the qualifier in the latter is “a”, he would prefer to be acknowledged for having what he calls sex with “many” porn stars? And to the former point, alley cats worldwide howl in protest at the comparison, they have principals.


Cream_Cheese_Seas

Just like how he did not have sex with *four* prostitutes.


lkpllcasuwhs

https://preview.redd.it/wkkljhfmzoad1.jpeg?width=1169&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf37e7f82c5ae09d2dea18f113bfa62168bc5a51 Mine would be this one


Consistent-Leek4986

media needs to forget Joe’s age! which one wants to save democracy? certainly not trump🤮


BigDamnPuppet

Are we forgetting Melania's portfolio of porn?


glimmerthirsty

I liked the line about Trump not carrying his own golf bag too.


Starlord1951

He had sex with Stormy. He called that sex, his performance and tiny mushroom made it laughable. As a porn star she’s had sex with REAL men, not big, orange turds with little penises.


dstranathan

"I did, however, have sex with an alley cat."


0m3gaMan5513

That’s an insult to alley cats.


Loisalene

I wish I **wish** Joe had followed with "She made it sound like date rape".


Intelligent-Sea5586

Yeah ok. My favorite part was around 1:06: https://youtu.be/mqEEFvr9keI?si=EmBiMBVVsXvfdzQ0


ecctt2000

No just a 13 year old


TheRynoceros

The part where he admitted to colluding with the Kremlin as a private US citizen really gets overlooked.


jawshoeaw

Omg quick step down! /s


LefterThanUR

Biden makes an incoherent point and Trump lies. Quelle democracy!


Old_Building2444

The part where Harris becomes the Democratic candidate for President. 


maketroli

Well literally he didn't have sex with a pornstar. For me the most magical moment was every second that Biden was able to finish a sentence... Oh wait. He didn't finish any sentences actually xD


An_Actual_Owl

He did tho. . .


maketroli

No


An_Actual_Owl

Sure did.


Cream_Cheese_Seas

You realize the debate was 90 minutes long right? There was more than the 4 or 5 clips you saw of Biden fumbling his words on your conservative news.


maketroli

No


Dr_Wernstrom

These are things I don’t care about. They might as well take more golf in the next one.


MechWarriorAngel

Did he or did he not have sex with Stormy?


iamaprettykitty

Doesn't matter. However, he was found guilty of breaking laws to cover up hush money payments so she wouldn't make it known before the election that they had sex. I suppose this doesn't necessarily mean they had sex, but it doesn't make a lot of sense otherwise.