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Administrative-Can77

Asta cause no one is resisting time stop Edit: holy fuck i forgot asta would have rouge so fate manipulation gg’s💀


Ohayoued

Do you think New Order would allow Deku to walk through stopped time if he knew it was coming?🤔


Z3raZer0

Well, I mean all time stops. You can’t really REACT to something that’s instantaneous, nor plan ahead assuming these four have never met with these circumstances.


Ohayoued

Assuming he has nighteyes power then that means he'd be able to see into the future and potentially know Asta's time stop power. Maybe use new order on himself to be able to walk through frozen time? He can't necessarily manipulate time, but maybe he can remove time's effct on him? Tho that's going into pure speculation, and I'll assume that Deku would still get obliterated by Asta through pure stats even if he could move through frozen time lol.


dude_who_could

Would he get out stats'd? Gigantomachia massive, Mt. Lady to 20x the size and strength again, all buffed by one for all. Throw in the several other hardening and strength increasing and speed quirks. That's before getting into the fact that magic spells are cast individually while all for one's usage in how he states which quirks he mixes to shoot off which attacks. We're talking about the billions of quirks of everyone in that verse. So like, how fast is a million speed buffs stacked on top of each other?


AregularCat

When you talk about every power in verse its only the ones that appear on screen. Because then you could say theoretically theirs a df that kills someone instantly when you look at them or something. We never see it but it could exist!! The only full speed quicks would be the ones we know of, do not powerscale the ones that could exist when accounting for this argument


dude_who_could

Exactly, but you can assume there are thousands of all the quirks we see. There's almost certainly 1000s of people at the very least that are similar enough to recipro to be considered basically the same power such that it would stack on top of itself and make dekue much faster and stronger. Repeat with all powers on screen. Multiply the future sight capability. Multiply mind control. Also mix and match quirks like intangibility and flight together such that you're permanently invincible/untouchable.


AregularCat

All it does is confuse powerscaling and makes everything messy. Theoretically speaking millions speed boosts multiplied together can push speed to infinity. Same can be said for every other stat and in that case it comes down to who’s infinitely whatever is higher and that cant be scaled very accurately its easier and more precise to know what we know for sure is in verse without going far off track


Individual-Ad-6216

That's the “quirk singularity”


uunut

This is still all speculation and goes into head-canon which could be done for every other character in the post


AJDx14

And every person in BC, other than Asta, has magic. So we can do the same hypothetical wanking with him. And with every other character here because their power systems aren’t that constrained to specific individuals.


darklordoft

Night eyes power would just show all of them exploding with asta being nowhere to be seen. At best he'd guess from asta missing a meat pile he has some teleporting and explosion quirk.


gitagon6991

New Order has limitations where you have to touch something to manipulate it and you can't exactly touch time.


Preferno1

No but he can touch himself and say he can ignore it along with Luffy as well if need be


NeatMain7825

Ayo?


RedditGojiraX

Forget all that he has anti-magic. Which if we use verse equalization means he can cancel our everyone's powers/abilities here


Wise_Scene366

Asta wouldn't be able to use any of the grimoires.


Happy-You-7368

Now, black clover has some strong hax hax, and people ignore it, One piece has some hidious brute force but people ignore, I will say asta takes this, the hax in black clover is really strong, specially if go in manga


_oranjuice

Consider : Flower fruit + toy fruit Instawin even without LoS


TheLordOfAllClappys

Asta would have Julius's time magic, which means he automatically wins lol


Mykneeisathroat

consider the following Time stop + Fate manipulation + ability negation Instawjn regardless of flower and toy fruit


Happy-You-7368

I don't think so, you see black clover charecter can use something know as mana skin, which is like armament haki, to protect themselves against different magic abilities, they can also use mana zone which negates any kind of magic ability, like simple domain in jjk So i don't think that's gonna work exactly


Unique_Expression574

Rogue reverse harm done to user. Ergo Asta is protected from it.


Ieam_Scribbles

Even if, Luffy is still the composite's leading brain here, so... peetty unlikely he thinks of it, or cares to increase his brain size to then think of it (nit that Vegapunk was a grand tactician anyway).


Unique_Expression574

Between time magic, word magic, rogue’s fate manipulation, and Lucius’ soul manipulation, I don’t see Asta losing this.


rexpimpwagen

Deku with all the quirks is just dead.


Cabbage_Cannon

"All the quirks" includes super regeneration and probably some limited immortality. I'm not aware of any lethal quirks, but I guess we wouldn't know about those, eh?


palmboom76

Its more like, its been explained that having more quirks than your body can handle will just straight up kill you. If deku had a quirk before receiving OFA there wouldnt be a series.


Sable-Keech

Overhaul: I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my body reassembling itself faster than I can die.


palmboom76

Ooo good one


Electronic_Sugar5924

Wouldn’t that strain his natural health?


Sable-Keech

It didn't seem to affect Eri in any negative way despite literally dying and reviving over and over again.


Intelligent-List-925

And if you have more than one devil fruit you die. The point of this argument is for fans to take the best of each verse and pin it against each other. I feel kinda dump for typing this ngl


Chandysauce

Technically untrue. It's eating more than one devil fruit that will kill you. But we already know of one person who has multiple, he just didn't eat the others.


Arcuran

ngl, this reads like BB shoved the second fruit up his ass


ScarletJack

1 fruit per hole, so BB has 4-6 holes left


Roxnami

There’s problaby a quirk out there that allows you to have multiple quirks without drawbacks


Slyme-wizard

RIP to all the quirked up white boys 😔


BmanPlayz468

Last statement def isn’t true, considering Mirio was being considered to inherit OFA.


palmboom76

Im 100% certain that was before they realized that having a quirk before OFA kills you.


FriendAren

Since AFO is included he should be fine.


Renn_goonas

Since all for one wasn’t able to stop new order from tearing apart his quirks from the inside, it seems he cannot turn off, quirks that he has on him. He hast to put them in someone else if they’re detrimental.


FriendAren

New Order was an outside influence though. We’ve seen him use mutation quirks before when he transferred them to other people or when he used his big arm against All Might in Kamino. Under normal circumstances he can control the effects perfectly fine.


THEiguanna

New order was given a rule by star to self destruct on shiggy so he could handle it it’s just that the quirk itself and no other factor would destroy him because that’s what the quirk was redesigned to do


Kaiten788

AFO doesn’t give immunity to quirk overload, Shigaraki had to transform his body to even be able to use it.


FriendAren

AFO can deactivate his quirks which is why he can keep taking more and more without worrying. Shigaraki’s body had to adjust to AFO’s quirk but AFO was fine by default. Though Shigaraki can probably have more quirks active at once.


RacketMask

He ain’t dead - he will be in constant agony and always on the verge of death but there is a ton of quirks that can keep him alive - maybe there is even a pain immunity quirk (which is a real life quirk so probably)


YourLocalToaster2

I mean, he has a chance with Brainwash+Confession+Overhaul if he can live long enough to get a word in.


Gladiatore4

I always hated this. For the sake of powerscaling, Deku doesn't die. What's the point of putting him in these battles otherwise?


CategoryTasty6682

Deku finna look like this😭 https://preview.redd.it/fq0lud72um8d1.jpeg?width=2053&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa76ec5d063061a571c00c462554488ec1ae9820


Ok-Reindeer-6576

NAHHH THATS VILE


Fluffy-Law-6864

Afo seems to make every quirk it takes emmiter in the sense it's on a switch. So mutation quirks unless intentionally, won't appear


suop4747

he has AFO tho he be fine till he gets cooked by Asta ig


ReadyFix716

Dude becomes the personification of “WHAT THE HELL IS THAT”


Low-Ad-2971

Nah he'll go braindead like half the characters involved.


Complex_Estate8289

Asta wins


Gamerdog9000

Technically, Liebe being inside asta would cancel out every other magic, meaning it would just still be base asta ☝️🤓


shansome64

nah, asta’s powers evolved


Gamerdog9000

Oh they did, I’m just caught up with anime, I haven’t gotten caught up with the manga yet


shansome64

yeah sorry for that vague response but i don’t want to spoil you


Just_Albatross6617

Thank you brother


Traditional-Baker-28

Spoil me instead


Cultural-Kale8950

Who's a good boy! Who's a good boy? It's you! Yes! It's you! What do you want? I'll buy whatever you want! Edit: I now realise you meant to spoil the manga


TonyWolfe2002

Lmao I'm fine with a spoiling too tbh (;


Select_Most3660

SPOILER WARNING ‼️ He can now give people anti magic and it makes the black bulls look dope


Medium_Charge_840

You know, normally I would hate spoilers for animes, but I love Black Clover (more specifically the Black Bulls), so thanks for mentioning this.


Traditional-Baker-28

I am...... Not a good boy. I am not deserving of the title


brick2000

Actually no his anti magic doesnt passively cancel out magic all the time if that was the case it wouldnt be possible for him to be healed by magic in his black form and he would be able to go through finrals portals with his sword out.


paweld2003

Black Clover have 3 types of energy: - Mana; - Anti-Magic; - Negative Mana Anti-Magic ability is removing other two types of energy. Natural Magic element used by characters isn't tied to those energy types. Its tied to the person. For an instance Dark Triad members can use their iwn elements using Negative Mana from their demonic pact. So as long as you are cappable of using any of those 3 types of energy you can use your magic element. One honestly more obvious example is that in one of newer chapters BIG SPOILERS >!Asta was able to fill all of his friends with Anti-Magic via Demon-Dweller sword energy sharing ability and they still can use their magic elements but with Anti-Magic properties.!< So Asta could use all of elements like Time, Gravity, Star Magic with his Anti-Magic.


MightyFlamingo25

Technically no, we can see in the anime his swords can still use magic (demon dweller is the best exemple where he absorbs mana to make magical slashes, he does this with Noelle and Gauche.) Furthermore, the magic used along his anti-magic is boosted to gain anti-magic properties (Again Gauche, the slash made with his magic are coated with anti-magic, although it's only visible in the manga(the scene is also in the anime))


gitagon6991

It would not. We have already seen Asta use magic several times now whether its with the swords he inherited or in the movie (which is 100% canon by the way) where he uses both magic and antimagic at the same time. Also the whole point of the prompt is that all these characters get access to all the powers in their verses.


epicgamer77

It would be asta, he already has the best physical stats probably and the amount of haxed magic there is in black clover is unbelievable. Dude will be able to manipulate space, time, gravity, fate and souls just to name a few. There are straight up spells that make people in them completely unkillable and this is all without combination magic. Luffy is second, if all the zoans stack to make him crazy stated he might have a chance. Deku would be next Yuji comes in last, but the combination of infinity and shrine is busted. The down side is we know you can only use one technique at a time even if you have multiple. If this limit is raised he becomes stronger but he is still wildly at stated and all the others (barring maybe deku, though teleportation quirks exist) have hax that can by pass infinity.


Guiorno

Problem with Yuji having infinity is that he would NOT have Six Eyes like Gojo as the post didn't mention anything like that. Yuji drains himself to the ground trying to use Gojo's technique lol


epicgamer77

This is very true good catch. Again yuji would benefit greatly in this prompt if his verses restrictions were lifted but he still probably wouldn’t win.


Guiorno

Takaba's comedian MIGHT give him a chance, but that's only if he takes joker gas or something


travelerfromabroad

The one time that we wanna take Yuji from an earlier point in the timeline to make him stronger lmao


Renn_goonas

No, not being able to kill people was a takaba restriction not a comedian one. And he can kill people with it he just can’t see them as human like that one cursed spirit


Guiorno

That's the problem, Yuji's basically a sort of pacifist, and even if this fight is bloodlusted, I think it'd be MASSIVELY out of character for him to find death funny, regardless of if they're curses, humans, or enemies


Renn_goonas

Or have a demonic looking form, perhaps thinking like a curse


RacketMask

Counter point - Hakari Domain


Snakify-Boots

I don’t even think Shrine and Infinity are his best options here, I feel like the Combo of the animation technique, boogie woogie and Idle Transfiguration would be broken enough to make Yuji decently matched (if you don’t include the sheer hax of some of the abilities in the other verses) able to basically guarantee an instant kill with IT


epicgamer77

Infinity along with comedian are his best defensive options for the most part. Unfortunately most the others here have some form of soul hax that would help negate IT. In an optimal situation he would have world cleave and it wouldn’t be limited due to Sukuna’s bv that along with IV could actually hurt some of these characters. That said, they all have ways to negate them as well.


iRealllyAmThatGuy

I agree with everything you said except "he already has the best physical stats." Luffy has the best base physical stats from the jump. He was literally punching enemies islands away in the first few chapters.


epicgamer77

Luffy may be physically stronger but I’d say asta is faster at least for the moment.


iRealllyAmThatGuy

Yeah I'd give speed to Asta. One Piece speed feats can be inconsistent sometimes. Luffy has been shown to react to and casually dodge light speed attacks. But then get caught off guard by what appear to be hypersonic+ attacks. Unless they're FTL attacks, but it's not always stated.


karimamin

Well Asta has gotten hit by slow attacks too. It's not like he's the king of dodging either.


bepisischonk

Yuji would have Takaba's comedian and he canonically knows how to use it because of Angel, he wins


Vegetable-Place-3582

Everyone is saying Deku melts into ice cream and I think that’s a lazy way to go about theorizing


Terlinilia

same energy as going "square cube law" in response to a prompt where an animal gets super big


Vegetable-Place-3582

*takes notes* and what is this cube law


Terlinilia

it is indeed the right term to describe the situation but it's just so annoying when people use it to avoid the prompt and say "yeah the animal just dies instantly because of square cube law sorry m8" and they don't bother exploring the prompt further than that


Vegetable-Place-3582

Ohhhh gotchu okay I think I understand. It’s like “what if squids were 20ft tall” and people say like oh the bone density wouldn’t support the legs or something annoying lmaooo like bro


Ok_Path2703

Sort of. Square cube law is the law that the bigger something is the more volume it has compared to surface area. Like a blue whale has a way bigger skin to.... "Innards" ratio then an ant. Because of this, and the fact that many animals have adapted to there volume to surface area ratio, if you switched the sizes of a big and small animal, they would die! (Cause the small animal has adapted to having a lot of surface area to get food, air etc, into a small body, and vice versa for the big animal).


Vegetable-Place-3582

So you’re telling me that anime terraformars where the insects evolved into human-like beings and were stronger bc of how strength scales is cap? I mean it’s a show but like still, would that not be plausible on any level?


Ok_Path2703

Haven't watched (or heard of) but if they just strait up sized up, no, if they evolved, yes, because adaptation, it's unlikely, but in our universe "unlikely" just means going to happen eventually. P.S if u ask about that last sentence about unlikely just know I'm gonna have to teach you theoretical physics.


Vegetable-Place-3582

Well yeah it was evolution — humans were trying to make mars habitable so they just put a bunch of bugs to work the land but when they came back many years later they were like, Chad asf Idk much about physics theory I just like animals 😭 but I love learning in general!


Ok_Path2703

Yeah that sounds believable (enough, and only talking about square cube law, not evolving on Mars Which is a whole other can of worms). P.S what if I told you you learned all this from a twelve year old?


bluedragjet

Deku win. All he have to do is spray them in the eyes https://preview.redd.it/nd4uf7it1o8d1.jpeg?width=486&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e2b30299c94b45f220ec84f98192bbfa6a756e6


samuru101

Deku going to spray seawater into Luffy's eyes


Okimnotcringern

luffy wins, he just turns the other people into toys. edit: nvm asta cooks everyone here lmao


hornyguy46290

Dude, the flower and toy fruit is a wild combo


FreshDepth2912

Asta wins easily, but I won't say Deku with New Order wouldn't be a huge threat.


JustAttacked

Here's my ranking: 1. Asta, he would end up getting time stop. enough said. 2. Luffy. I don't see Deku, or Yuji killing a shapeshifting rubber boy who, due to the nature of logia's, can't be hurt conventionally. 3. Deku. He's pretty strong, but he can't kill Luffy or Asta. 4. Yuji. He doesn't have the cursed energy to use anything too broken, and he can't even use the only saving grace he might have had, which is Limitless. You need the six eyes to use that for more than 3 milliseconds.


RacketMask

Yuji has access to gambling - y’know the domain that gives infinite energy and immortality


NeverLiedNeverCheat

Why would limitless be his saving grace and not takabas reality warping ?


JustAttacked

Actually, good point. I forgot about Takaba. But still, he doesn't have the cursed energy for that. If he did, he'd be number one, assuming he found it amusing for everyone around him to die. "Wouldn't it be funny if nobody could hurt me, and they all dropped dead?"


NeverLiedNeverCheat

Takaba ? Oh yea absolutely , gege gave him a broken CT because he’s fodder basically Composite yuji with sukunas CE pool and takabas domain ? Easily the strongest in verse by a mile


JustAttacked

Takaba, if he was aware of his power overall, could be #1 in the verse himself, depending on his cursed energy. "It would be so silly if Sukuna dropped dead right now"


Interesting_Plate_75

Not really, a situation being convenient doesn’t necessarily mean he’d instantly find it funny. But if we’re talking about dark humour Takaba then the verse is gone.


Affectionate-Hunt-86

Asta he can do the same thing juluod did to make his angels or stop time or put them in a dream demention


Mykneeisathroat

Asta stomps


No_Donut4571

asta negs


songoku-166

Asta


Fletch009

But can they beat goku?


After_Swordfish_3503

Deku will easily gets millions of detrimental quirks, he is cooked lmao.


RetryAgain9

Since he has AFO though, he won't have to use them.


WiltedTiger

So would Yuji, Luffy, and Asta. Asta is the least affected as you don't have to use your magic, but there are plenty of detrimental magics.


Primary-Ad4185

I cant think of any detrimental CTs or domains... theyre all pretty useful


Low-Ad-2971

Having more than 4 kills you. Same thing with devil fruits


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TacocaT_2000

Yuji wins (it’d be hilarious if everyone turned into babies)


Theepic69epic3

Your profile picture makes me go MAD


JustAGuyIscool

Deku is dead last because he's just going to be an amalgamation of random things Even if we only include named quirks he's still an amalgamation.


binx932

well since he has AFO he can just summon the mutation quirks basically making them transformations.


Low-Ad-2971

He can just not use the quirks. He has AFO, so he doesn't have to use them at all times.


NeverLiedNeverCheat

Yuji might be the most broken Takabas CT is reality warping and technically would be a step above time stop and fate manipulation


haha7125

I dont know the full potential of Luffy since i haven't seen most of one piece, but i feel like this is one of the hardest decisions ive ever made.


TheNepNep39

God I'ma sound like a real nerd. A real Redditor. Here goes. If by every quirk. Every curse technique. It is every known one? Or just ones shown in their respective medias. Like in mha there could be some quirk that allows them to just, not die for 5 seconds. Or something goofy curse technique that just kills you instantly because it's something something balanced. I think the person who hits first wins. I don't know who that would be. Probably not Deku.


GhostlyBoi4

If we include "Every magic" with Asta, that also gives him anti-magic on top of EVERYTHING ELSE, which would probably just shut down the other three if this works with verse equalization.


Extreme_Yak_9714

Wouldn't deku explode having that much quirks


3L3M3NT4LP4ND4

Wouldn't Luffy? Also no, A: becauss that's dumb and Boring and B: because of All For One


superdupergayman

i’m saying luffy and hear me out. he has advance conq and obser which would help out a good amount unless if asta is very resistant to conquerors. also luffy could use the flower and toy combo. luffy also as vega punks fruit so assuming he’s also the smartest person he can go 3000 years into the future and win by age which is lazy but very doable. also trapping luffy shouldn’t work since he has the door door fruit (unless it doesn’t work in those time bubbles)


ReRisingHERO

Nika- err I mean Luffy G5


Asleep-Tomorrow-9822

Asta and its not close. GET YO ASS OUTTA HERE DEKU. Anyways. We have THREE charecters. Asta wins bc asta cuts through limitless easily. Luffy ain't doin non against noel water magic. OH YEAH HE CAN SWIM WITH A FRUIT NVM. Ehh. Asta still wins. I just can't see luffy beating meroleona fire magic. Yuno's wind magic. The key magic. Anti magic which cancels out Haki. Lichts light magic. So yeah. LUFFY DOESNT HAVE TOON FORCE. HAVING A RUBBER FRUIT THEN TURING EVERYHING AROUND YOU TO RUBBER DONT MEAN YOU GOT TOON FORCE.


FrankSiinatra

Its not a rubber fruit, this was revealed forever ago now. He ate the fruit that gave him the powers of the Sun God Nika


DienekesMinotaur

Look at the scene of him pulling himself out of Kaido and tell me it's not Toon Force. (Note: From my understanding, Asta has both Fate- and Time-Manipulation, so he still probably wins)


CS_James

I think Luffy would win. I know time is a power in Black Clover, but in One Piece, Luck is a power. Now, the jury is out whether or not Luck beats Time or the other way around. But combo luck, flower, and toy fruits, it could spell bad news for Asta. Of course, if time just gets stopped, there may be no chance for luck to even matter? When it comes to stuff like Luck, it falls onto the writer to decide the winner, it seems.


senator_noobstrong

the first one out here is yuji because how the fuck can he mastered every bit of it and the third one is deku because you never say without the downside then again he doesn't know how to mastered it so that would leave to the dwarf who want to smash a nun and also has a walking gigachad demon inside of him and also a menace vs a Looney toon guy who loves to eat enormously amount of food and wanted to be a king and also a fucking menace too and I would say....holy shit I don't know who would win tho because if it has all of the devil fruits vs all of the magics in the world they would likely don't even know how to use it at all and that shit is true so they would like OR rarely even use it just like the other two so they might use there original power to fight towards each other


Yeetyeet20202020

Luffy wins on Bugs Bunny logic that is "Because it would be funny"


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Low-Ad-2971

Deku gets intangability, a shit ton of enhancement quirks, portal creation, flight, super intelligence, matter manipulation, limited reality warping, a shit ton of fire-power, Regeneration, body splitting, mind control, danger sensing, future sight, power nullification and Rewind and all these get a massive multiplier from OFA. Deku wins if he decides to just fucking leave and snipe people through portals but he'll probably try going melee against Asta and get his shit rocked. Edit: Deku could also win if he makes millions or billions of Clones and has each use New Order to boost him until he's basically omnipotent.


Sung_drip_woo12

No Asta has reality warping and time magic it’s GGs as soon as he even activates the time stop they have no resistance to that and even if you don’t count that I bet deku would barely be able to move every single quirk in the world of mha would be to much for his body especially the quirks that warp the body we already seen how bad it was with AFO and shigraki imagine all the mutations to izukus body


Low-Ad-2971

What magic gives Asta reality warping? Time stop wouldn't matter if Deku played it smart and retreated to make a bunch of clones and have them buff him with their New Order and make him immune to time stop but he's not smart enough to do that. >we already seen how bad it was with AFO and shigraki What? Quirks didn't do anything to either rof their bodies. Shiggy's body evolved, but that had nothing to do with quirks. I'm ignoring the fact that Deku would die from so many quirks because everyone but Asta also dues from too many powers and that's boring.


LimeadeAddict04

Everyone is forgetting ab Twice. Sad Man's Parade spawning millions of Dekus with all of the quirks including stuff like Decay, New Order, AFO/OFA, and Overhaul is insane


Ghostype

I think magic man with all magic beats everyone else because it's magic versus people who have more limits with their power systems Edit: anti magic man with all magic


Head_Snapsz

Time, fate, dreams? Asta wins


Old-Reason-3992

I’d LOVE to say luffy, the devils fruits can be so overpowered, but luffy isn’t smart enough to use half of em (example: ope ope no mi) that’s why I have to say Asta would win, also because of Hax


thelegendarydan

Luffy gets Vegapunks fruit, which means he actually is smart enough to completely, efficiently utilize every power he receives.


Practical-Test8295

Wouldn't Yuji get access to Infinite and 10 shadows to have Big Raga the Op Stoppa? Deku would have some strong stuff like the quirk that can change rules that the US lady had but Yuji has some toys to play with. Not gonna get into manga stuff because I respect those who only watch anime.


Comfortable_Bag_8274

Asta will get access to time and soul magic. We know who wins


Xcyronus

Asta. Every quirk and devil fruit isnt even a good thing tbh


23eriben2

Luffy definitely last. All those trash mid devil fruits he will now have lmfao


Arhtex_

You know, sometimes I come here and have no idea what’s going on. But I love it.


ASAPBlue

Glamour world and time/space magic should be enough to deal the the other 3 I think so I’d say Asta should take it


Significant_user

In between asta and luffy here, basically just a battle of hax


DingoGuzungas

Asta


Justinz33

Yuji just turns into a black hole


Smooth-Tie7941

idk


Haunting_Fact_1578

As long as Luffy doesn't have to eat the fruits and can just absorb their powers or something, he won't die immediately


rnunezs12

I haven't watched Black Clover, but all the Domains and Curses in JJK is too much hax for Deku or Luffy.


Only-Gift4758

If yuji has “Comedian” things can actually get complicated but I genuinely think he has a chance to win with Takabas ability


AverageOrdinaryDoode

After we subtract both the human blobs from this equation,Deku and Luffy, we can then talk about Asta Vs. Yuji. If Yuji can get off an Infinite Void or Cursed Technique: Comedian then he will have a shot with winning. But if not then with Time, Soul, Anti, and Law magic Asta wins this low-mid diff.


Alwaysanoobey

Not taking into consideration about anti-magic asta literally has no magic it’s the sole reason he was compatible with the 5 leaf clover book. All I can imagine is him surrounded by books he can’t use or read their just floating around him 💀


domisbored

yuji, only because hes as strong as yuta and yuta can handle way more than 3-4 CT and if he doesnt wanna use all he can just use cursed speech and say “Die” and he probably could do this because of his insane CE levels now that he has all the CT


LoginLogin777

If kenjaku instead had every technique Jjk might’ve had a better chance as he would find people’s heads exploding for no reason funny


SlightlyShittyDragon

Luffy probably would just use Gear 5 and not touch the other fruit.


Competitive-Sleep-62

krillin solos


cocodadog

Luffy with every devil fruit is dead. It's been shown outside of blackbeard that consuming two devil fruits causes the eater to die


International_Sea887

1. Asta: Has every magic + anti magic to cancel out other energies. 2. Yuji: broken as hell. The only thing stoping limitless is Asta's anti magic and the fact that asta is faster than yuji could figure out how it works. 3. Luffy: Assuming he doesn't turn into a blob, the only devil fruit he will understand is his so the other fruits might honestly just kinda fuse with his rubber based abilities. 4. Will turn into a blob and there is basically no way of changing back.


Unfair_Nectarine2957

If they have full knowledge if their powers yuji could win because of comedian which will bend reality to his sense if humour  of not asta wins if his anti magic doesn’t cancel out the rest due to the speed of light magic and had of time stop magic 


jaythepizza

While I think Deku doesn’t win, every quirk gives him immortality. Realistically, how do you beat that?


Iruma_peakfiction

Asta destroys. Him alone is enough, but now he can make clones of himself who are all as strong as the original


Xyaibai

Vs Naruto all tails, all eyes, all jutsus Vs Ichigo all Bankai's Vs Gon all Nen abilities


RLOjangMaster

Deku with every quirk is too broken that means he’s literally got billions of different unique abilities he would literally have an answer to everything even limitless with new order, plus he wouldn’t need to use new order for super strength meaning he would have the flexibility of making two rules. I mean that alone helps Deku resist a lot of hax abilities from the other characters, now on top of billions of quirks with AFO which allows you to combine them and make them stronger and OFA which makes the individual quirks waaaaaay stronger then before it’s too much.


vacantrs123

I mean Takaba Cursed Technique is the game changer


Mysterious-Table-782

What are astah and yuji from?


AppointmentNo7146

Ayo Asta already scales at ftl even without all the magic. You give him this buff and he's killing everyone here.


Warwicknoob23

It’s simple 1.Asta 2.Yuji, Infinity carries hard 3.Luffy, just Luffy 4.Deku gets blitzed regardless, most quirks dont do a lot It’s that simple


AdFriendly8669

Shouldn't Asta's own power cancels out all other magic and he doesn't have mana so he would not be able to use other magic anyways, Deku with all quirks might die of brain damage, Can Yuji's soul handle all other cursed techniques, Wouldn't Luffy die if he eats more than one devil fruit, isn't that's why characters in one piece doesn't eat more devil fruits to gain more power, with the exception of Blackbeard because he has a special or the Cerberus devil fruit or chimera fruit, So Asta wins by default and even if he wasn't the strongest, BC magic system is so shit that every main characters gets any power they want any time and infinite plot armour too, Even without the consequences Asta has way too many better hax (Time, space, Gravity, Fate, darkness, light, dimensional slashes, physical existence erasure, physical restoration, soul manipulation, power modifications, stats amps, non physical interaction, curses, future sights, power nullification, Yuno's incredibly broken wind manipulation and spirit powers, dream world, body control, power mimicry, star magic, world tree magic, bring dead back as zoombies, Secre's broken sealing magic) whereas other characters have limitations and rules that this powers can't break Deku's best hax will be limited law manipulation, Luffy's Transmutation even energy, Yuji's low tier reality warping limited by how funny it is


Novel-One-7198

I love how almost everyone is correct. (Asta solos)


ra1nbowaxe

ahhh what was the woute from overlord involving time magic? oh yea it goes "i see. Countermeasures against time spells are always essential." so unless you can deal with time, you aint winning here (only bringing this up from other comments about asta)


Overall_Bee8495

asta negs every single one


nvlabest

Well, it’s only relevant to talk about the strongest abilities of each and we have to remember the route of each of their power. For example, Asta’s anti magic won’t work since Devil Fruits are either highly developed technology or just fruits that were born out of random, they aren’t magic. Quirks are natural born abilities, and Cursed Energy is a form of Energy. Devil Fruits - Luffy’s Fruit, Any Logia means he literally cannot be touched unless you have a counter to that ability that allows you to touch him, Toy Toy Fruit etc Magic - Time Magic, Star Magic, Body Magic and Soul Magic are the strongest abilities Quirks - Technically it’s One for all, but should be All for One and Star and Stripes ability, seeing the future, Decay and that reconstruction ability, Eri’s ability Domain / Quirk Techniques - Gojo , Sukuna, Yuta, Hakari, plus any other hax abilities Then individually outside of having all forms of Luffy has Haki, including all advanced forms (seeing in the future, conquerors and armament) Asta has Ki / Zetten The other two are essentially normal So for me, Deku goes down first / easiest to deal with. Yuji’s best ability is Gojo’s DE but the way Yuji fights means I find it unlikely that it will go through since I’d say Asta and Luffy are smarter in battle So for me it’s between Luffy and Asta who in my opinion have faced the stronger opponents. I think I give the slight edge to Asta. I think any one of Asta, Luffy and Yuji could win this battle, just not Deku


Nuke2105

Probably Asta


Berseker_Track_499

Asta really Deku loses third


RacketMask

Yuji if he can get the domain off especially self-embodiment if perfection or gojos Yuji also gets Hakaris domain which makes him immortal and there probably exists a technique out there that just makes it so the jackpot always goes off Self embodiment of perfection is the perfect counter to Deku to since it can manipulate a beings biology via there soul which could possibly allow Yuji to render Deku quirkless by manipulating the soul Infinity would make it so Luffy and Asta likely can’t touch him as I can’t think of any fruits that would be able to bypass infinity and I don’t think infinite space can be cut like magic. So I give it to Yuji since Hakari + domain expansions + infinity doesn’t seem beatable for Luffy and Asta and while Deku has a shot he is still human and unless there is a soul protection quirk he is about to realize his perfect self.


Kingofpin

Are we talking as in everyone else stuff too? because Yuji with Gojos domain would be hard to beat. maybe Luffy because he has toon force.


OatesZ2004

Asta wins followed by Yuji because he would also have infinity. Deku assuming his body could handle all the quirks would still be last as he would be a monstrosity, Luffy is second to last as he has no means of countering infinity or Astas magic and he loses his logia intangiblity as a result of the dark dark fruit.


vpr77

haven’t seen black clover, but since everyone is saying asta, can someone explain to me what ability he has that allows him to bypass infinity?


TonyWolfe2002

Deku probably


CopperSaint

Asta


IntelligentButt69

Yuji even with everything is the weakest here the only one he could maybe fight is luffy if he can use mahitos technique as the hybrid he currently is or just instant black holes. Then we got luffy who just simply out scales yuji but that’s really about it. He got time powers which are cool ig Then we got deku which with all the quirks he is basically immortal and able to blast off city level moves with little sweat, then if we talk about ofa buff we could maybe even scale him to upper galaxy and if we went to get really out there with verse equalisation for example we could even say afo could take other powers. Then we got asta and no one can outscales his had unless we start saying deku with ofa boosted erasure isn’t affected which is pushing it Asta>= deku > luffy > yuji


ThePixeli

Yuji because restless gambler immortality+Makoras adaptation :)


Quatumplate

Asta wins


Z__MASTER

Asta definitely


egoist_hero

Isn't Asta like already stronger than six paths Jubidara after the current chapters ? Asta is already like Large Star To Solar System level. He takes it.


Alarming_Judge_7463

Me personally think Luffy as there´s Logia wich is a great defense and then theres overpowered fruits wich are weak alone but together godly such as sugar and robin´s fruit as all it takes is one touchthough if you have anything against this feel free to tell me