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jurgenthegoat

Emery for sure. Villa look like they’re gonna get CL and that’s a hell of a lot more impressive than City winning the title (yet again).


wrigh2uk

Emery unless we win the league then it’s Arteta. If Rob Edwards got it for keeping Luton up that would be worth of it as well.


caden_cotard_

If City do the double again then Pep should be manager of the season; if Arsenal manage to win the league then it should be Arteta. The only others that should be in contention are Emery and Iraola, and Rob Edwards if Luton manage to stay up.


AnonymousDiscChucker

If City wins- Pep sets a new epl record, he deserves it. He’ll probably win FA cup too If Arsenal wins- Arteta deserves it.  If Liverpool somehow rise above, I’m giving it to Emery


AntTalexanderTarnold

Unai emery all day


Ninth_Major

If City win the league, I'd say Pep for the man management and four in a row. But I'm also a City fan. I think what bothers me so much, especially a couple of years ago, is that City won the league, made it to semis or better in all comps and I think neither Pep won MOTS nor did many in of the in players make TOTS. If you're playing 60+ matches but somehow don't have more than a couple TOTS players, then almost by default, you must have MOTS All that said, I'd completely understand if Emery wins it. He's done an astounding job and deserves the plaudits.


SuspiciousSystem1888

Not gonna include Pep lmao  If City win the league it will be him. No one has won the league 4 years in a row. 


AntTalexanderTarnold

115 charges tho


SuspiciousSystem1888

I agree on that, but he should still be in the running for it.  OP just seemed to have forgotten 


AnonymousDiscChucker

115 is brain rot


AntTalexanderTarnold

He broke 115 rules tho so no one cares about a 4 peat


AnonymousDiscChucker

If you beat him it wouldn’t even be worth mentioning. Keep losing to palace and Everton lol. That’s definitely not why the title isn’t yours


AntTalexanderTarnold

Coz we don't break 115 rules and get all the var decisions


AnonymousDiscChucker

No one gets all the VAR decisions. The rules need to go, apparently any club with money after FFP has to grow org socially even though the big 5 beforehand spent big at times historically


Tasty_Sheepherder_44

Ange for winning the league in September


Frozenturbo2

And went unbeaten until november


antebyotiks

Pretty obviously gotta be Unai Emery


Claim-Nice

100% not a Villa fan, and for the most part can’t stand them. However, Emery gets my vote, he’s done wonders with that squad. Similar to Howe and de Zerbi last season though, they’ve over achieved and could get found out next year. Hopefully not though, the more teams busting up the big six cartel the better.


Gloria_stitties

If Luton stay up then rob edwards, the budget the stadium and Barkley


SnooOnions3369

I think it’s got to be pep, He’s going to win the league with a league 2 player at striker. Got to be an impressive feat


Djimibrady

Sean Dyche is the obvious choice, anyone who managed to keep that Everton squad in the PL after everything that's been thrown at them,and I'm a Liverpool supporter, deserves proof recognition


antebyotiks

They'd be 13th without the points being docked, hardly manager of the season stuff lol


darthrevan22

Arteta if Arsenal wins the league, Emery if Arsenal doesn’t.


joodikl

As a biased Villa fan - if Emery doesnt get it nobody should get it.


PandiBong

Easily Arteta or Emery. People saying Iraola, really? Bourmouth are in tenth and were in decent shape last season.


242turbo

They're in 10th, but just watch a Bournemouth match and you'll see why people are putting him forward. So much better than 10 at the back counter attack like they were last year.


ThatWildGalago

We are a MUCH better team than last season, and its not even close. Not saying he should win it but come on, he has improved us massively and deserves to get the praise


PandiBong

I’m surprised that’s he’s improved the team so much, it’s been a good signing. But not best manager of the season.


indrid_cold66

Unai took villa from near relegation to europe and top 4 favorites in a year. He’s him


ThePirateWhoSaysArr

Iraola, Arteta, Emery right now, in that order


stearrow

If they win the league Arteta has a very strong argument for 2nd place. That being said the manager of the season should be Emery. He's done a spectacular job.


deathr913

if arteta does win it then it should be him because no on has done it in the klopp-(mostly)pep era but should be close with mr good ebening


Immediate_Wolf3802

Emery for me Villa have played some lovely football...Arteta has spent alot of monies and you expect Gunners to be up there


LordLychee

Villa have spend nearly 400 million euros in the last five years I wouldn’t say that’s a meager amount.


Immediate_Wolf3802

Mere pocket change compared to Arsenal who throw money about like a Scotsman with no arms....we need a new attacking midfielder but we can't decide between these 2 ?...why not sign them both ?


Mylast5bucks

Surely its the Ozzy


stuckmash

I’d put him third. 1st by miles has to emery even if Arsenal get it over the line. I’d go arteta 2 and then big Ange and irialo


Shorteningofthewahey

Arteta by far. Emery has done a great job but Arteta has Arsenal consistently challenging the best team in PL history. People get used to things quickly, but it's not normal. He was criticised when he signed half our players because they were 'overpriced and not that good' but he's got them playing amazing football and near the very top of the table for 2 years in a row now. 


antebyotiks

I'm an Arsenal fan and love arteta mate but it's clearly Unai Emery


[deleted]

You’re a fucking gooner hahah


Shorteningofthewahey

Yup. And I didn't call for my teams manager to get MOTS for like a decade or so before the last 2 seasons so you can hardly call me biased. I just really think Arteta has done amazing. 


Tricky_Lock_4273

Arteta obviously. Hes created a monster with arsenal


Goldmemberberry

Poch


TJT007X

One of the title-chasers (although I think Arteta is the most deserving) or Emery


AhyesitstheManUfan

Emery. 'Nuff said.


AppointmentLower9987

Emery, I don’t really think any other manager in the prem is a contender based off of expectations


spirotetramat

Has to be Unai.


Justasimplercreature

Emery easily


kw2006

He did amazing job with players that many don’t consider as world class or close to world class.


Youth-Grouchy

Got to be Emery for me, even if Arsenal win the league. Arteta was a better shout last season but obviously City had the treble (which shouldn't really factor in but obviously does).


Kezmangotagoal

It’s Emery, it should be Emery but it’s going to be Pep if they win the league.


banananey

Exactly this. The last 6 winners have been Pep or Klopp for \*checks notes\* doing really well with a ton of money and some of the best players in the world. Looks like 2013-14 (Tony Pulis at Palace) was the last season the winner didn't achieve a top 2 finish. Iraola at Bournemouth deserves a shout as well. Thought they'd go down this season but they've done amazing to be in 10th.


EmergencyOriginal982

>Looks like 2013-14 (Tony Pulis at Palace) was the last season the winner didn't achieve a top 2 finish. Feel like this would be a good pub quiz question


AlmirMu

Emery.


Infinite-Potential48

Id give it dyche for putting the final nail in liverpools title hopes last night 😍


MrShelby1234

The title was long lost a long time ago


FenderLord

Hahaha yeah sure it was, you helmet.


MrShelby1234

Do you think this was our first bad performance this season? Or was it just the last of a very catastrophic run of form


Accurate_Pack_6526

I'm sure


NorskKiwi

* If Arsenal win the league - Arteta * If Liverpool win the league - Klop * If Villa finish 4th and City win the league - Emery * If Villa finish 5th and City win the league - Pep


LordLychee

Yea this is totally fair


[deleted]

That seems pretty reasonable to me.


niko_bellic2028

Arteta if he wins the league but yeah Unai emery has done a miracle with villa .


QuaintHeadspace

Also the football arsenal are playing is ridiculous. Truly beautiful football.


SpectacularNelson

Except for that match against Man City where they parked the bus 🚌 😂


QuaintHeadspace

I mean you could analyse the tactics of city they were very clever that game. They recognised havertz was never going to outpace their centre backs on his own so that sat gvardiol and akanji on the two wingers and simply pinned them back it meant if saka and martinelli didn't defend it was 3v1 on our full backs each time with kdb bernardo and akanji vs our left back and gvardiol foden and kovacic on our right back. It stifled our attack massively and the only way out was through centre midfield but we had jorginho to break out which is umm yeah. So while it looked like Arsenal parked the bus city were oppressive to say the least and set up very well to kill our attacks.


The_All_Seeing_Pi

It's manager of the season not most improved or manager that has done the best with what they have. Those factors do come in to play and no one is questioning what Emery is achieving. Your post comes across as the usual anyone but city which is a bit sad really. If Pep does manage to pull off winning the league it's going to be an achievement as it's not like City have walked it this season and it would be a record 4 in a row which in itself is a massive achievement.


No-Clue1153

>it's not like City have walked it this season Which, given their resources, is not a strong argument for Pep getting the award.


The_All_Seeing_Pi

What? [https://www.football365.com/news/transfers-premier-league-five-year-net-spend-man-utd-man-city](https://www.football365.com/news/transfers-premier-league-five-year-net-spend-man-utd-man-city) In the last 5 years we are 6th in net spend. United are top over the last 10 years. What resources are you talking about when other teams are outspending us? Facts don't lie.


No-Clue1153

Looking only at net spend is misleading, ie wages are usually a bigger expenditure than transfer fees.


The_All_Seeing_Pi

[https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/premier-league-wage-bill-ranking-2023-24-man-utd-liverpool-arsenal](https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/premier-league-wage-bill-ranking-2023-24-man-utd-liverpool-arsenal) United still top. Not doing very well here are we.


No-Clue1153

Since when have United been the benchmark? Is anyone calling for ten hag to get the award? The fact is city regularly spend more than their title rivals and Man Utd's figures are not relevant as they haven't been a realistic title rival for a decade.


The_All_Seeing_Pi

Clearly they have more resources than us therefore your comment about the resources available is wrong and by your own words you have now confirmed resources don't really matter.


No-Clue1153

>resources don't really matter. That explains why your team was so successful before an oil state owned them I suppose.


The_All_Seeing_Pi

You aren't making sense and completely veering away from your original comment so on that note I'm out.


No-Clue1153

You were seemingly arguing that since man city haven't walked the title this year, that bolsters pep's case for winning manager of the season. I argue that with the oil state -backed resources he has, he *should* be walking the league and the fact he hasn't is not a positive. Your counter argument is to bring Man Utd into the discussion, ignoring most obviously that Man Utd's manager is certainly not in the discussion for manager of the season, and so the fact they are a clown show is not relevant at all. Unless I guess you want to use the same logic of Man Utd not strolling their way to a title meaning their manager is doing a good job?


DominoAxelrod

And also it assumes they've accurately reported all their spending


The_All_Seeing_Pi

Our reporting isn't in question. The question being asked is did we transfer money via sponsorship deals with companies associated with our owners and then the next question is, is that against the rules as they were at the time? Owners putting money into a football club to enable them to compete with the top clubs and their spending power should not be against the rules. That's how you get a super league without actually having a super league.


No-Clue1153

Well we have no reason to believe their financial reports are anything other than 115% accurate.


d3vilm4n60

VAR


Goldencol

Emery easily. What he is doing at villa is absolutely brilliant . Proper team . If Arsenal win the league it should be Arteta . Done well against citeh and Liverpool . However if it keeps them at their clubs then poch and ten haag for the comedy value. Especially ten haag . The guy is footballs David Brent.


MoiNoni

Poch easily


froggy101_3

Has to be Emery if they get top 4. I think they'll win the conference league too which would be an incredible season if they do, Villas best for 30+ years probably. He's a no brainer. But after him I'd say Arteta, O'Neil, and Edwards have had great seasons. If Luton stay up then Edwards could challenge for it. Iraola has quietly done well too at Bournemouth and Glasner has started impressively. Would have Ange well behind all of them though tbh, they are still only 5th which is about what you'd expect even if they have improved.


[deleted]

Poch hands down. He’s the best Spurs manager ever after this season.


AgreeableAbrocoma833

Post was going well until OP tried to sneak Postecoglu in there like he's done much more than introduce us to the highest of back lines.


LordLychee

I know it’s easy to say as an Arsenal fan, but I could never subscribe to the Postecoglu wagon. He might’ve been in these talks in the first couple months of the season, but there’s a reason we don’t give these awards out in November


teslagooner

Emery


SovannRoussard

Arteta has beat Klopp and Pep.


PPPPPPPPPPKP

Pep or Arteta.


RobertLewan_goal_ski

To be a cynic, 25 of the last 30 awards have been given to the league winner, so it'll probably be Pep (or Arteta). Maybe not repeating the Treble will mean it goes to someone else, in which case fully agree it's Emery for me all day long. Could also see it being given to Klopp, final season and all, despite now being unlikely to add to the Carabao Cup.


riledwumpus

Oliver Glasner, of course! Edit: obviously kidding, just happy, ok?


Capsbraves20

He’s our manager of the season! Couldn’t be happier after today.


Waxygibbon

He could also be manager of the month surely? Glad all over :)


Capsbraves20

Has to be in the conversation! A good result Saturday would go a long way.


The_Funky_JJ

You couldn’t be more right. I don’t think anyone is as deserving. Especially considering last season in relation to it too he deserves the award for what he’s done since he’s arrived. And this season must be the season we appreciate what he’s done with the team he’s done it with, composted to pep winning the title again.


Mustyoo

It's Emery if Arsenal don't win the league or Arteta if they do.


NorskKiwi

This is the way.


Texaslonghorns12345

Rob Edwards especially if luton stays up


Informal_Nobody_7020

Emery or Iraola


NoPineapple1727

If Arsenal win the league then it’s Arteta. If City win the league and Villa get top 4 then it’s Emery. If City win the league and Spurs get top 4 then it’s Pep


SuspiciousSystem1888

I’m not a City fan, but clearly Pep is in the running to get a 4th in a row title.  Never been done before which should have a big pull. 


CuclGooner

Honestly if City win league, spurs get top 4 and luton stay up I'd give it to Rob Edwards


RandomRedditor_1916

Emery is a solid shout tbh


fuckmutualfunds

If Luton stays up. It’s Rob Edwards idc.


Treeboi13

It's definitely possible for Luton to still survive though.


Treeboi13

I suppose it all depends on the end result. Admittedly, this convo is limited by the season being incomplete.


Meth_Hardy

> Admittedly, this convo is limited by the season being incomplete. Good thing you posted it now then. Fuckwit.


Treeboi13

Still a lot to go off from this season though. Could always go back later to discuss it but I wanted to have a discussion now.


Meth_Hardy

Let's also start naming our picks for goal of the season, save of the season, comeback of the season, match of the season, assist of the season, etc etc etc right now, rather than waiting for the season to actually end. Some teams still have 6 games to play. That is over 15% of their fixtures left to play. It's a little early to be naming your "blank" of the season. You're just terrified of not being the first to make a post. FOMO. You're like these bellends who make YouTube compilations welcoming a transfer rumour to a club before the transfer is announced. Like all those "Kudus, Welcome to Brighton" videos before he fucking signed for West Ham! Just wait until the season ends. Let the chips fall as they may and then make your announcements on who is the manager of the season. As it so happens I think that if Emery leads Villa to UCL qualification or wins the Conference League then he's pretty much a shoe in for manager of the year... unless Edwards manages to keep Luton up or Arteta leads Arsenal to their first title in over 2 decades. If either of those happen then I think Emery needs to do both.


Treeboi13

You're wrong about the 2nd paragraph. You just assumed that's the case. As for goals and other aspects, my memory about split-second moments is imperfect. I don't care about being the first, it doesn't matter to me. Why should I wait for the season to end? It's been 34/38 games so far for most teams. We've seen enough of this season to review it and make conclusions from it. I kinda regret making this post because it's early but I just wanted a discussion. Who starts it is not my concern. I also regret it because for the nine giving their opinions in a sincere way, there's one like you acting like an asshole. You couldn't be civilised, couldn't you?


Meth_Hardy

> You couldn't be civilised, couldn't you? You are 100% correct and I apologise for acting like a dick. I still think that we should wait until the season ends for posts like this, but I should have gone about expressing my opinion in a more... refined manner.


Treeboi13

Apology accepted. We'll probably get MOTS posts at the end anyway.


RandomRedditor_1916

Yes, agreed


beetletoman

Arteta if we win. Emery otherwise


Treeboi13

I can't argue with that but tbf, I just think that City will win the title. I just can't see where they will drop points. Arteta has done a great job of keeping performances stellar since January. It was only recently that Arsenal fell off. While I believe this small dip in form to be temporary, the title is in City's hands. If Arteta somehow wins the title, MOTS should go to him. However, I just ruled out the possibility out of habit, I'm sorry to say. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Arsenal to win the title because it's a lot healthier for the PL but I backed Arsenal last season for the title and yet City ruthlessly clawed it back. I'm a bit wary about making that call again. Managing in the PL is a ruthless job, especially in the top echelons so I can afford some sympathy to Arteta.


throwaway72926320

Emery is an absolute lock unless: Arsenal wins the league, Wolves or Bournemouth qualify for Europe, and maybe Luton staying up. Even if all 4 happen I'd still consider Emery the favourite. 6/6 from Arsenal and the biggest domination against a Pep side I've seen for a very long time, possibly ever. Pep probably won't win it, City are so good that not winning the league is a bad season for them. Victim of their own success in a sort of way. Maybe if he does the double, but for me what Emery did is more impressive therefore he should win manager of the month. I mean just compare the budgets of all the clubs. Also if somehow we and City bottle this title to Liverpool then it has to be Klopp, but i wouldn't put a fiver on that with 100/1 odds. I'd like it to be him, it didn't work out for Arsenal but I'm glad his time with us has helped him for Villa. It should be him for me.


Treeboi13

Fair enough. Can't really argue with any of that.


Best_Document_5211

Emery no question. The teams above have billion £ squads


Hypnotic_Element

Yeah, but if Arsenal wins the league in the three horse race, then it’s Arteta 100%.


TexehCtpaxa

Emery did the double over Arteta without conceding.


Hypnotic_Element

That doesn’t make him a manager of the season.