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TyForestReddit

Because if one is to understand the great mystery, you must study all of it’s aspects.


Sheev-Palpatine-Bot

Anakin, if one is to understand the great mystery, one must study all its aspects, not just the dogmatic, narrow view of the Jedi. If you wish to become a complete and wise leader, you must embrace a larger view of the Force. Be careful of the Jedi, Anakin. They fear you. In time they will destroy you. Let me train you.


TyForestReddit

Precisely.


Alkakd0nfsg9g

He had me in the first half


[deleted]

OP only keeps up on the narrow, dogmatic view of Disney.


Sheev-Palpatine-Bot

Anakin, if one is to understand the great mystery, one must study all its aspects, not just the dogmatic, narrow view of the Jedi. If you wish to become a complete and wise leader, you must embrace a larger view of the Force. Be careful of the Jedi, Anakin. They fear you. In time they will destroy you. Let me train you.


inferno_931

Lololol this is the only reason why I'm still watching it. Also because I respect the actors and decided they're performance is at least worth my viewership this last time. Them micky mouse writers need step up their game though.


P_UDDING

Are you threatening me?


[deleted]

[удалено]


Sheev-Palpatine-Bot

I am the Senate!


Mechagodzilla_3

Not yet


Sheev-Palpatine-Bot

It's treason, then *spins aggressively*.


iberis

Order 66


Sheev-Palpatine-Bot

The time has come. Execute Order Sixty-Six.


jarjar_bot

Hiya Senate. Meesa Jar Jar Binks!


Background-Ball5978

Good bot


_GeneralGrievous_Bot

I thought I couldn't love anyone, but you..


iberis

Sentient


[deleted]

I am cornholio


IAmBoratVeryExcite

I am the great Kenholio! I need derision for my tv show!


GrozGreg

How would I know I don’t like the show if I don’t watch it ?


iberis

You're right Greg.


GrozGreg

Thanks a lot Elizabeth.


TheLazySith

I bet OP is also one of the people who say "how do you know its bad if you didn't watch all of it". I guess we're just not allowed to criticize anything now.


corn_on_a_tree

Usually I give myself 2-3 episodes of a show to decide whether or not it’s worth my time. If you don’t like the show yet still watch it beyond that point, yeah you’re kinda setting yourself up to get clowned on


Flyingboat94

As a person who finished season 1 of Halo, this cuts deep


tuhn

There are some pretty good shows that you miss out with that rule. For example Better Call Saul or Succession both had a pretty slow burn start.


Grandkhan-221b

Yeah but BCS is a six season 10 episodes per season show. Kenobi is a 6 episode show.. so 3 episodes is not a ''slow burn start'', it's half of the show lmao


fallenmonk

I think the show had enough good things going for it in the beginning for people to at least maintain interest. But the 4th episode really spun its wheels. Now there's only two episodes left but there's still no story or character development.


CHARFUCKIZARD

There're only 2 Episodes left!? What the fuck!


grzzzly

That makes me sad. I thought we were just getting started.


Bananaramamammoth

I'm enjoying Kenobi, the only thing I'm disappointed with is the episodes are not even close to an hour long. I don't know if that was the plan but the big rumour mill was that there'd be 6 1 hour episodes. The last episode is 38 minutes long including a recap and long ass credits reel. The last few star wars series have had some really short episodes and there's a lot more that could be said in 20 minutes.


UltraLobsterMan

There are legitimate critiques. A lot of scenes are just poorly directed and written. We *need* people to critique this kind of subpar content to try and keep Disney in check.


Yeldarb10

Yeah. I know all the new shows are exciting, but I think Disney is really getting aggressive with it now. The sequels had mixed reception. But when the mandalorian took off, they obviously saw the potential and they decided to focus their efforts towards that. Manalorian and the bad batch has had an amazing run thus far and all other shows should be held to those standards.


Grandkhan-221b

Come on bad batch was kinda meh. I don't understand the hype. And Mando season 2 started to show the cracks (that said, theses two show at least sill have very good production value, and never that cheap/fanfilm-y feeling of Boba and Kenobi)


YouandWhoseArmy

Even when mando fails, because it’s new character, it’s building the world up. Every time they use the OG trilogy characters as the main characters they are tearing the world down. Can we just not use any of the OG characters anymore except as cameo pop ins? We’ve already seen their stories. Move on.


heyIfoundaname

Normally I'd want to see more of the original characters, but I agree with you that they should just focus on new characters, if not for the fact that they wouldn't be able to fuck them over this way.


RlyNotSpecial

Personally, I was very impressed by the Bad Batch. I started it with very low expectations, because when the characters were introduced at the end of Clone Wars they really didn't click with me. But I was somewhat blown away. The characters are really nice now, the episodes are actually exciting and have great pacing, and it looks gorgeous. So yeah, I almost didn't want to watch it, but now its one of my favorites.


AnOnlineHandle

One thing the Bad Batch had was that its early episodes really felt like it was evoking more of a hard sci fi aspect which was a legitimate part of the original trilogy genre mix which has been absent in so much Star Wars stuff since then. The slow pacing with tense music as they fly into their home base after the war is declared to have ended, and then hear the announcement about the Empire was fantastic, and was one of the rare times since the OT it actually felt like a living & breathing galaxy and civilization which spans it.


RedbeardRagnar

Yeah like trying to get through the road block lazer thing and he shoots it… just go 2 feet to the right and walk around it? Or when he’s on fire and the robot comes and carries him away whilst Vader just stands there staring at him for ages. It just didn’t make sense


Polo88kai

Or the writer can just let him turn off the laser gate normally and walk past, I mean, what's the point of all of those little twists? it make zero effect on the story, it only brings more questions and the argument between fans like what happened now.


FrightenedTomato

Or don't show the wide shot and frame the scene such that it actually feels like a barrier they have to get past. Seriously, it idiots like me can see how that scene was shot poorly, then how did a whole ass team of people working on it not see it? The production of these shows is incredibly rushed.


Polo88kai

and how did those people get their job to work on the Star Wars project? feels like anyone can do it now.


TRLegacy

That issue was so easy to solve. They were in the middle of nowhere, so they needed a vehicle. Freck is down, but his ride is still usable, so they could steal it. That gate blocks vehicle, but not individual, hence the need to destroy it.


[deleted]

Or letting a flood come through and even though it was right next to him hes now 2 metres in front of it?


Dejan05

Yeah the only explanations are that either a) Vader still had good in him and decided to let him go or b) Vader wants an actual fight instead of Obi Wan running away, otherwise he could've easily crushed the robot and finished Obi Wan


AmbroseMalachai

I thought it was weird that Kenobi's directing seemed so off. Deborah Chow directed the Mandalorian season 1, which while not perfect, seemed much better than Kenobi season 1 in that regard. I have to think the writers were somewhat responsible for a lot of the issues where different writers came and went and script and plot-line changes happened. This kind of thing causes confusion, shifts in tone, and difficulty for the actors and director because they aren't certain about the overall vision that they are playing towards. Eventually you end up just shooting scenes and hoping they go together well.


milhouse21386

She only directed 2 episodes of Mandalorian season 1, chapter 3 and chapter 7, which are, funnily enough, the highest rated episodes of that season (behind the finale).


TheLazyPurpleWizard

I have to say most of the Star Wars movies are poorly written and directed. I don’t know why people are expecting bigger things from the shows than they got from the source material.


Idiot-detector69

Check the upvotes on the post vs comments roasting OP. Its hopeless. We have them to thank for the decline of hollywood in general.


the_superior_nerd

"How do you know it's bad if you don't watch it?" "I watched it. It's bad" "WHY DO WATCH IT IF IT'S BAD!!!"


Gulthrazda

Pretty much this. Cant criticize which some how has turned into a bad word. Yes people shit on things just to shit on things but that isn’t every complaint being brought forward.


username9223_335

It’s just as bad to blindly accept everything and criticize nothing. Which is something these people always conventionally miss


bell37

“I don’t like this character who is poorly written” “You need to give that character a chance and let the story unfold” “It’s been over halfway through the season and I still don’t like that character” “Why are you still watching if you don’t like it?”


TheManyMilesWeWalk

And if you do stop watching they'll say that you should just be patient and that the show is clearly building up to something epic.


bell37

I was told that for Book of Boba Fett every episode until the finale. Even if the story got better near the end, you still had majority of the season with BS filler, poor directing and writing. Also consider that the seasons are only 6-7 episodes so overall it’s still a bad season even if it ended on a high note.


Mrludy85

I didn't even finish the last episode. I was just trying to push through the season and had to go to bed and just haven't been interested enough to turn it back on. Anybody defending the poor writing in these new series needs to get lost. Disney has the money and the people to produce this stuff at a better quality than we are currently getting.


LegchairAnalyst

You know, a lot people that criticize Kenobi probably still enjoy it. Just accept that there are gonna be people disliking it.


AnOnlineHandle

I really want to like these Marvel & Star Wars shows since I've really enjoyed the franchises at other times, and just don't understand how they come out so... cheaply so often. It's a minefield going in of what kind of quality you're going to encounter, and not something I experience with any other type of show. e.g. Agents of Shield was done on traditional TV, and after season 1's monster of the week adventures was generally higher quality and felt more competently put together than most of the D+ Marvel shows so far, even if it sometimes got a bit boring in the middle of the seasons due to full 20+ episode seasons instead of these short 6 episode serials which have the advantage of not having to fill as much time.


republicbuilder

I misread Disney+ as D+ like the grade and went, "yeah, that's accurate." That's been my issue, early Arrowverse showed me that DC had live action tv down, then it went bad, while I thought Marvel was always having issues. It seems like Disney+'s model seems to be the issue, though I might suggest it might be a streaming platform wide problem. I would say writing for the Disney+ shows seem to be wildly all over, the new Trek material is all over, and it just seems like most streaming can't decide what to do. I will have to say HBO is killing it though, Barry, Peacemaker, Young Justice, and Our Flag Means Death are killers. I love Filoni and what he is doing, but they're pulling him too thin it seems. While I wanted more series at the same time, it seems like they're not letting him focus on shows for the sake of shows. Let alone letting the writer of the show meet with Hildago, which seems like a stupid idea.


FrightenedTomato

HBO has a lot of experience making flagship TV series. They're the undisputed kings of production quality and style even if their writing quality can vary from show to show. Disney+ is the new kid on the block. They're relatively inexperienced in the Prestige TV series field. And it shows. All their productions look shoddy and cheap and lack the gravitas of an HBO product.


republicbuilder

The problem is that Disney+ has the support of now ABC, Fox, and Disney Channel behind it. They could get writers from all of the shows that have worked for that. Crap, had they not canned Tron 3, they could still have had the guys who wrote Once Upon a Time doing a series or two for Disney+. Edit: I spoke too soon, the guys who did both Once Upon a Time and Tron Legacy are doing the Gaston prequel for Disney+ in 2025.


Kenobi-Bot

Your clones are very impressive. You must be very proud.


heyIfoundaname

I mean I can watch it and be entertained but with a lot of eye rolling. Even if you know nothing about Star Wars, on its own it suffers from a lot of poor elements as a show in general. Inconsistency, deus ex machina, conveniently incompetent villains, poor acting direction, and so on that takes you out of it every so often.


Pollia

For me it's the portrayal of the inquisitors. You've seen some chunks in rebels and fallen order and I was really excited to see more in Kenobi and the interpretation of the inquisitors in Kenobi has been horribly lacking imo. Like in other media they get beat, sure, but they never look incompetent. In Kenobi they're almost actively incompetent. It's a really weird take on them.


heyIfoundaname

Don't get me started on that, it hurts how lackluster the inquisitor designs are because I fell in love with the Grand Inquisitor's look and behaviour in Rebels. Here they're all just... generic.


43_Hobbits

That’s such a terrible take. If you were psyched about a thing coming out and it blows you can totally complain. Fuck season 8 forever.


Slowmobius_Time

The north remembers


MakeLoveNotWarPls

The North Remembers!


DarkCurseBreaker

Fuck season 7 too


CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN

Starting S5 I really started noticing it's downfall. Not to say that there weren't any good episodes in the last 4 seasons, but for the most part the writing was garbage. Totally D&D's fault!


shoshjort

Tbh fuck seasons 6 and 7 too


heyIfoundaname

They are at the very least watchable.


ZazaB00

I’m really surprised the OP’s mentality is so popular. It gets repeated again from the sequels, “if you don’t like the sequels, don’t watch them.” Well, how the fuck do you know you don’t like them until you’ve watched them?!? Am I supposed to just blindly judge things sight unseen? The OP makes no damn sense. It’s some short of shill that just sits there and consumes anything any corporation force feeds it.


you_wish_you_knew

It's a nice little catch 22. If you don't watch them and complain you're just blindly hating, if you watch it and criticize it then why did you watch it. Obviously not everyone who says why are you watching it is doing something like this but the question of why are you watching it just completely ignores that it's the only star wars media around at the moment and that it sounded promising at the start and despite a few stumbles in the first 2 episodes was doing all right till episode 3 started tripping and episode 4 fell flat on it's face.


serveyer

Fuck season 8.


throwaway035184yarn

And ever and ever and ever


baddestmofointhe209

Fook the kneelers!


[deleted]

It's fine to say "I liked this" or "I didn't like that". I didn't like "Solo" but there are a LOT of people who do. The trick is being a fan of something but not making it your whole life and identity.


Kenobi-Bot

It's a trick. Send no reply... Send no transmission of any kind.


[deleted]

Sentient.


Kenobi-Bot

Well, Dex, if droids could think, we wouldn't be here, would we? *laughs*


TheSethman08

Now this is just getting straight up unnerving


Lizzie-Afton

hes getting real


iberis

Uh I've tested these bots, I don't think they are bots anymore..


iberis

Ok I can't believe these are AI. Someone is playing with us right..


DOOMFOOL

? They are coded to reply to keywords with specific lines. It isn’t random but it’s still a program writing those replies. For example saying the senate should trigger the palp bot to reply with the obvious line we all know


Captain_Rex_Bot

I honor my code. That's what I believe.


throwaway035184yarn

Only a Sith refuses to deal in absolutes!


NexusKnights

Kenobi is like alien vs predator. All the ingredients for success marred by very average writing and poorly written characters. Just send Kenobi on an adventure of trials and tribulations without introducing the fact that the empire had caught leai working alongside Kenobi (someone who Vader hates dearly) and they somehow ignore it for years and years to the point where she ends up smuggling death star plans to the rebellion. If you want the empire and Vader to be a big baddie, how about stop making them so incompetent. That scene where those goons were chasing leai through the forest and she was clowning them at like 2 miles an hour had me laughing about as hard as the super clean cyber punk kids living on a sand planet speeder chase scene in boba Fett. Where in the sarlacc pits do they find these writers..


shibainu876

The leia chase scene was just horrible. I was laughing at a 10 year old straight out running adults and "bounty hunters" not knowing what to do when faced with a downed log.


KeziahPT

I don't dislike it but I don't find it great either, which is sad. Kenobi and Vader arent just great characters, they're cinematic icons. I've been thinking and this isn't exclusive to Obi-wan. Disney's tv shows always fall short of expectations. They manage to pick great source material and make it meh.


Gulthrazda

They have years of EU to just adapt but are being cheap about it and don’t want to pay authors so they string and slap shit together and people are not always going to enjoy it just because it has StarWars on it. The Mandalorian a show that started out somewhat away from the trilogies other than being in the same universe has gotten far more love than hate because they’re making new stuff out of it and rarely touching old stuff. If season 3 tries more to connect 6&7 you’ll see more of a shitting on it.


[deleted]

The "not wanting to pay writers" thing is just weird to me. You're talking about, max, a couple hundred thousand to be able to pay for a very competent writing, out of $150 million spent on the show.


M0therFragger

Yeah if that even, writers are notoriously underpaid unfortunately


_GENERAL_GRIEVOUS_

Yeah, imo this show is better than a *lot* of tv shows on the market right now, but there are still many things wrong with it. And it’s literally an Obi-Wan centered story, which fans have wanted for years, with Ewan and Hayden returning, and with a *ton* of potential for a great story. So for me, anything less than spectacular is disappointing. Is that unfair? Maybe. But with all the time and money put into such an important project, I (and I suspect many others) can’t help but feel that way.


Mace-Windu-Bot

Take a seat young _GENERAL_GRIEVOUS_!


_GENERAL_GRIEVOUS_

Shut up Mace you gave me asthma


Anakin_Skywalker_Bot

Whoo, boy! This is tense!


_GENERAL_GRIEVOUS_

Skywalker Bot… I expected someone with your reputation to be a little… older.


AgentOfSPYRAL

>better than a lot of tv shows right now To each their own but imo once you step out of the fandom/franchise bubble writing and direction takes a pretty steep jump.


FoxerHR

This is very true. They pick good premises and then decide to artistically handicap themselves by making 6ish episodes and the show loses itself towards the end and what makes it good to watch. How you can see that you can make a 6 hour or whatever long movie and cut into episodes and have the balls to have filler episodes is beyond me. They need to stop with this arbitrary number of episodes and start looking at how many they actually need to cover the things they want to cover.


Nythromere

>Disney's tv shows always fall short of expectation Except for Mando, TCW season 7 and Rebels.


4CrowsFeast

Rebels season 1 was god awful, although the rest of the show is solid, albeit cheesy. Mando season 1 also had some hiccups. Seems like each series, even if Filoni is involved takes a season or so to develop (Clone Wars included). Unfortunately this isn't a good formula for limited series like Obi-Wan and Boba, or movies that are 2 hours each.


Gulthrazda

Those three shows really push new characters forward and keep old characters who do show up in the same light they are seen/understood from their characters portrayal on the silver screen. Boba and in my opinion obi-wan are taking characters to far different places just to subvert expectations of viewers is the only way I can understand the decision for the direction for these shows. And while they introduce new characters they are often just flat out better than the character who people came for. I’m sure there are a few people but I can’t imagine there were many that came into Boba hoping it was an in-depth look at the Sand People culture or to watch Fennec Shand do most of the cool badass stuff. Not that it wasn’t fun to learn stuff about sand people or that Fennec shand isnt a badass, but It is book of Boba Fett. People came for Fett. And same for Obi-wan’s years of solitude on Tatooine to watch over Luke and from esp3’s end continue his training with Master Qui-gon would instead be saving Liea and being off world the second episode in the first season. Though to be fair don’t know how long the show will last so they could go back to that and flesh that all out but even if it does go for awhile I honestly can’t imagine they wont go off world again seeing as you know they did it in episode 2, season 1.


U1150

This he is is the correct opinion in my opinion, Disney doesn’t produce great anymore, the script is lazy but it’s still telling s good story in my opinion


Frediey

I love the idea of the story. But yea, the writing is so awful I'm not invested. I don't like being negative, I really wanted to enjoy this series


mbuckhan5515

What a shit take. I’m gonna watch the show through to see what happens, even if I don’t like it. It’s the very problem that the fans deal with. Disney knows we’re gonna watch no matter what, so where’s the incentive to create a legitimately great show? I’m severely disappointed in it so far. It’s had cool moments, but common. A Kenobi series has been talked about for *years*, a show about one of the greatest Jedi and most well-liked characters in the entire franchise, and Disney has managed to make it positively mediocre. It’s pathetic and sad. And it bugs the shit out of me. If you don’t like reading negative reviews, then get off Reddit.


Kenobi-Bot

You look tired.


mbuckhan5515

I sure as hell am, Master Kenobi


[deleted]

After episode 4.....yep


hgs25

Also OP: “Why are you complaining when you didn’t watch/finish it?”


ObviousTroll37

Also OP: “You don’t like Reva dominating the screen in a show about Kenobi? Racist.”


ispirovjr

TBH if it was second sister dominating the show I would enjoy it. Reva isn't a good character to begin with.


[deleted]

I’ve never been a big Star Wars fan, but I loved obi-wan in the prequels as a kid. This show was the first time I’d been excited for anything star wars related in my life and it‘s such a letdown because it could have been so good


Kenobi-Bot

Good-bye, old friend. May the Force be with you.


[deleted]

:(


knotbots

Ouch. Fuck.


Qui-Gon_Jinn_Bot

It seems that way now perhaps, but you must look deeper, nukethewhales-.


Wong0nePhotography

Maybe he has looked deep and that's why he's disappointed?


iberis

Sentient


McChickenfromWendys

Thats quite a way of begging people to not criticize something you like


TheLazySith

Yep. Of course people are going to talk about new Star Wars shows on a Star Wars sub. But apparently you're only allowed to comment now if you have the "correct" opinion?


ObviousTroll37

That’s not just entertainment, that’s life now.


Spartan05089234

We can't just stop, it's *CANON*


Ki-Adi-MundiBot

We must try padawan Spartan05089234!


itsyaboicraig43

I agree with fathead here


Pedalfire25

sometimes it's entertaining to watch something you don't like just to see how bad it gets.. that's half the reason I watched all of Boba Fett.


BobaElFett

My soul was broken at the end of the show.


--TenguDruid--

This is a stupid take. A fan base will discuss the material they have in front of them, and while I'd prefer to love it, when Disney choose to half-ass their shows, they need to hear it. If Disney Star Wars was good, I'd be willing to pay for Disney+, but as of now I'm pirating their shit. I've already put so much money into watching the movies in theaters, so I don't feel bad about that. Disney could always just choose to back the fuck off and let filmmakers do their thing, instead of seemingly forcing their corporate droid business philosophy into their creative material. So yeah, if you don't like hearing people's honest thoughts, go to a different sub.


[deleted]

It really is as simple as that. Just go somewhere else or ignore social media platforms regarding Kenobi. It reminds me of GoT S8 where people couldn't handle the fact that their beloved show's writing was phoned in and banned all negativity about it on the main subreddit where only praise and artwork were allowed. Glad that isn't the case here.


Harucifer

The Kenobi series could be 5 episodes of Ewan McGregor reciting "Loren Ipsum" and Id still think "its at least decent".


4CrowsFeast

What's the new Kenobi season about? "WE'RE LOOKIN AT SEA OTTERS"


OwenLarsBot

Like you was your opinion on the Kenobi series?


Waddifat1

Gotta love the broken Owen bot😂


MJC1988

Someone call an ambulance. I think Uncle Owen's having a stroke.


SquishedGremlin

Over my burnt carcass.


TechnoGamer16

Is there something wrong with criticism nowadays


[deleted]

Disney could hand them a literal turd with Star Wars plastered onto it and these fanboys would still defend it.


banidopt

You know what I'm just gonna say it If you don't like reading criticism of a TV show then stop reading it


sirbustsalot22

Agree... Disney Writers are ass. Kenobi is the biggest waste of potential since, well, the sequels lol.


Sheev-Palpatine-Bot

...the Republic is not what it once was. The Senate is full of greedy, squabbling delegates. There is no interest in the common good. I must be frank, Your Majesty, there is little chance the Senate will act on the invasion.


Kenobi-Bot

Anakin, my allegiance is to the Republic ... to democracy.


Rebellious_Rhino

This is the same argument people make about American government. “If you don’t like America then just move to a different country.” How about, rather, I want to see it be better than it is. I want it to be improved rather than be the flaming turd that it continuously seems to be because of bad decisions by people in charge.


the_superior_nerd

what if i told you... you people bitch as much as the complainers


N-E-B

Nobody watches it to complain. We watch it hoping it’s good and then complain when it isn’t. There’s a difference. We all want to like it but it’s really underwhelming so far.


[deleted]

Or how about we criticize bad Star Wars content so they will hopefully release good Star Wars content in the future.


[deleted]

“Hi are you new here?”


No-Pressure6042

You assume Disney cares about what fans think?


BZenMojo

They care that people pay. Which people are. Guess they're just replacing old fans with new ones.


nesquikryu

By that standard, and judging by the people who do loudly criticize Star Wars, this has never worked even once.


TheLegendaryPilot

so the alternative to criticizing it is to just consume the sewage? no thanks


0ni0nchicken

You're right. We love Star Wars, we love the universe, that's why we are watching it. "If you don't like it then don't watch it" Is such a horrible take. People should rightfully criticize what they dislike regardless of what people say.


[deleted]

Well, you know what they say about insanity.


hodlrus

You know what I’m just gonna say it If you don’t want to be homeless just buy a house


SnooCompliments9257

Maybe cuz I’m hoping the remainder of the show will be better


trianglesaurus

Big “if you don’t like it go home” energy from OP


LiquidCheeze420

Don't like this sentiment, it's indirectly saying "Don't criticise even if it's bad."


TheLegendaryPilot

So just to be clear, the current defense for garbage tier writing is to just stop watching it?


GoAwayImHereForMemes

As a person who likes the show, people have the right to complain, and the star wars fanbase only complains so much because we care about it


Scrubola

We have a right to complain tho, the most anticipated Star Wars project to come out since force awakens and it's mid


jorsiem

If there's something I dislike more than complainers are those complaining about the complainers


Darehead

You know what I really hate? Complainers who complain about the complainers who complain about complainers.


Wooden-Doubt-5805

I like turtles!


GodVulc4n

I like trains!


OwenLarsBot

Like you liked your train set when you were a kid?


_JAD19_

*dies*


FlirtyBacon

I love lamp!


ianucci

Imagine coming to a discussion forum trying to shut down discussion.


thephant0mlimb

I mean I'm half way through and it's a struggle. I really want to know what the original script was like.


seeyouinyourdreams

Good point. There has to be a first draft. Was it improved or "improved" ?


thephant0mlimb

Kathleen Kennedy said they rewrote it because it was too dark. Which would make sense because its the age of the empire.


[deleted]

Goddamn, I bet the original script was way better. Would have loved a dark show.


thephant0mlimb

Exactly I have a feeling it was gonna have similar feeling to Fallen Order.


Dreadnought13

You thought it might've been similar to Fallen Order? The Jedi in hiding working a blue-collar job, reconnects with the force by catching an innocent from falling, gets a guide who has hidden motives, travels to Fortressum Inquisotirum 40k-um, breaks the underwater glass, while chased by Inquisitor that IsN't wHaT sHe sEemS? Kenobi similar to Fallen Order? I just don't see it.


seeyouinyourdreams

So on the one hand we're not supposed to give criticism because the story isn't finished yet, but on the other hand we're not supposed to watch the show anymore because we had criticism. ​ Awesome.


[deleted]

If star wars fans would have this mindset they would've seen like 2 movies and a handful of episodes


PotassiumBob

I, other than the original trilogy, have only really seen the first two prequels, and first two sequels. And a handful of episodes. And by handful of episodes, I mean just the Mandalorian.


DramaExpertHS

Oh no people criticize a TV show, the horror...


shadowskill11

I like the show and plan on finishing it. With that said there where 4 incidents that made me go WTF but I found a way past them and enjoyed the rest of the episodes: 1. Why the goons couldn't instantly overtake and capture Leia with her tiny footsteps. 2. The Second Sister weird parkour scene. Why didn't she just use force speed or force jump instead? 3. Why did the rebel spy lady talk into a giant microphone to Kenobi while in a single quite room with a dude sitting at a desk 10 feet away from her? 4. Did Kenobi actually think the cartoon wear a trench coat with a child in it trick was going to work?


PunishedInkwell

Fanbase before: Arguing and criticising in order to see what is right, and thus generate a standard. Fanbase now: cRiMtiSisMs bAd What happened to the fanbases now...?


Dreadnought13

CONSOOOOOOOOOOOOM


[deleted]

Dont think. Just consume product then get excited for next product.


FlirtyBacon

I watched the first episodes and noped out, tired of their lazy shitty writing


Kenobi-Bot

You look tired.


FlirtyBacon

Hello There!


_GeneralGrievous_Bot

General FlirtyBacon!


Mr_Truttle

Well, if the content itself is bad, watching it for critique can at least allow the whole exercise to retain some value. Also, most folks seem to like it even less when others criticize media they haven't watched. So there doesn't seem to be any winning.


Chary_

thats why I never watched Boba, knew I wouldn’t like it and it was obvious people only asked if I saw it so they could complain


cmdrmeowmix

If you just watch things you like, you'll never understand why you like it nor will you like it as much. I understand you like it, but this argument is a very bad one. People can voice criticism and its fine


Gamerguywon

ok I like the show and even I think this is a stupid take. people are allowed to not like things and give their opinions.


ComeBacksToDrugs2018

“Stop making valid criticism”


[deleted]

"Dont think. Just consume product then get excited for next product."


Dylpooh

You have absolutely no rebuttals to the criticism of the show so you just say "stop watching it". Pathetic.


Kenobi-Bot

Why do I sense we've picked up another pathetic life form?


Dylpooh

A life form that can't take criticism of a TV show!


Wedos98

Show: Does something stupid People: This was stupid Fans: You only watch it to complain. Is not like this was the most anticipated Star Wars proyect by name alone, is not that is rewriting stuff in the most dumb ways and having dumb plots. You are only haters and racists.


Hour_Insect_7123

I don’t like it this is the final line for me but I can turn away I have the know if they do anything with Revas character or is she just useless


alosmaudi

I can't not watch it, there's Ewan in there!