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When he smashed the mirror and said "I'll crack your fucking skull", do you think the driver was justified in fleeing the scene through the only route available?
Theoretically if the driver called the police as soon as he drove away saying that he fled for his life after a gentleman said he would rip out his throat during an aggressive road rage incident I don't think he could get charged. What do you think?
If police review the footage from the motorcyclist, they may consider the driver only damaged the bike after the motorcyclist had already started walking away - driver wasn't in immediate danger. Reckon both of them would be charged, though.
Wait if the old guy pulled out of the roundabout wouldn't he have the right away? I live in the US and the people in the roundabout always have the right of way(granted people here don't understand how they work still) so that guy is mad he was a bad driver?
Are roundabouts different in the UK?
But still this guy shouldn't be driving! If someone get so mad they stop in the road to confront the other driver they shouldn't be allowed on the road!
I mean it's very hard to know what happened without seeing it.
You are completely right, row is given to anyone actively *on* the round about, then anyone to the right (we drive on the left) of your entrance if you aren't on already. However first of all he's probably meaning the guy pulled onto the roundabout not off, there's not a whole lot of situations where coming off a roundabout is going to create a right of way debate since they don't *generally* exit into another junction. So it's likely the old boy pulled out in front of the (probabaly speeding, let's be fair, this will be a 30/20mph area) bike. This also looks like a residential area meaning there's a solid chance it was a mini-roundabout, which is just a cross junction with different right of way rules that *many* people love to ignore. There's also the possibility it was a multilaine roundabout and oldboy was in the center and moved to exit, not seeing the Biker, cutting him off. Again this would likely be an undercutting event and therefore the bikes fault, but I don't think this one's likely considering old boys "there was plenty of room" comment since that'd mean oldboy wanted them to go 2by2 lol.
All in all it's probably an issue of the bike going faster than it should have been in a residential and the old boy either not giving a fuck or not seeing him until too late. My money is on old boy intentially pulling out on a twat driving unsafe in his nabourhood because as a Biker you automatically lose fights with cars and I know plenty of oldies who find it funny as fuck to scare the baby meat crayons, but that's a pretty unfounded opinion lol.
angry cyclist yells "I'll break your fucking skull" while striking the guy's vehicle. Guy says ok and drives off. Bike was parked in front, obstructing him. Old dude isn't going anywhere but home lol
He was literally driving away from someone who was threatening him. The bike being in his way is inconsequential in this circumstance. Other than his insurance being liable for damages possibly any lawsuit would get laughed out of court with this as evidence.
Not sure what video you watched but even a lawyer as bad as Lionel Hutz could beat any charges laid here. Camera guy literally made a death threat - “I’ll break your fucking skull” - and the car driver took evasive actions to protect themselves.
No, you’re right. The driver should have sat there with his window down and let the road raging camera guy “break his fucking skull” because that makes a ton of sense according to u/jackwritespecs
I didn’t say driver should have done that
I believe there’s a balance between doing nothing and running over a motorcycle
Sorry if that’s tough for you to understand
So in your delusional fantasy land the car should have either swerved to the right and illegally driven on the sidewalk or swerved to the left and hit the road raging camera guy.
So you avoided the question entirely. Let me try again and dumb it down ever further.
Since your position is that the car CANNOT drive straight, do you:
a) want them to go left onto the sidewalk where they may hit a pedestrian, a parked vehicle, a house, or a light pole; or
b) want them to go right into the oncoming lane where they may hit the camera guy, an oncoming vehicle, or an overtaking vehicle.
So therefore we have gone full circle. You say the car can’t go straight, won’t go left, and won’t go right. The only remaining option is the driver sits there and gets violently assaulted.
Congrats for outing yourself as a clown.
If you don't think someone making death threats while violently smashing your property justifies fleeing the scene through the only available route, you have a poor understanding of reality.
This isn’t America bud. He’s not going to be sued. And probably won’t be imprisoned when he uses the defence that he was leaving a situation he felt threatened in. A jury of 12 people in the UK would likely find this an act that a reasonable person would do when being threatened and having their property attacked.
Hmm
Not in the UK so I guess I can’t comment but yeah, seems like a pretty clear case of destruction of property
I guess regardless of laws, I would say the driver is at fault. Just using normal sense of right/wrong
I think you’re incorrect on both
A motorcyclist parks obstructs the road in front of you and aggressively approaches your vehicle shouting obscenities and punching your car. You’re an aged man, you want to leave this situation. There is likely room to manoeuvre around the motorcycle but adrenaline is running high in your flight response and your aim is just to remove yourself from the situation so you accelerate away striking the vehicle obstructing you as you go.
This to me, and I think most others, is normal sense of right and wrong and also a defence in the eyes of the law.
So put yourself in his shoes. And remember you’re not a 30 year old man. You don’t have the physical capabilities to defend yourself if this escalates, which based on the motorcyclists current behaviour it could well, what do you do?
K I’m in his shoes
I don’t run over the motorcycle of the man walking away from me. If I’m scared I call the police
Edit: and if the man is a real threat I run **him** over, not the bike
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lol and he can't tell the police, because he made threats of violence on film
You think that a man who would go and put it on the internet wouldn’t contact the police?
Life changing actions mean a lot less when you’re at the end of it. What a guy
Motorbike muppet sounds like RONNEH PICKEREN!!!!! 😂
Who?
RONNIE FUCKING PICKERING!
Who?
YEA, ME!
He sounds like Peter Kay
 Jay Pritchett doesn’t give a fuck
i swear its him. He drives alot more like gloria nowadays.
Don’t road rage with anyone.
Reminds me of that scene in Fried Green Tomatoes - “that’s what you can do when you’re old and have good insurance”
I loved that movie when I was younger. I saw it quite a lot.
[Face it girls, I'm older and I have more insurance](https://youtu.be/lx0z9FjxP-Y?t=24)
Property damage for property damage as the saying goes an eye for an aye
Doesn't exactly apply here as the only property damage was the bike, a mirror can be folded back out.
When he smashed the mirror and said "I'll crack your fucking skull", do you think the driver was justified in fleeing the scene through the only route available?
Nah since him running over the bike was intentional
Nah he was just fleeing after being threated with deadly violence.
You guys don't get out much huh
You don't understand UK law huh?
I don't really understand any laws
Do you think that hitting a motorcycle would do no damage to the car???
That's damage that the driver caused, the comment I replied to made it seem like him hitting the mirror was "damage"
Damage he legally caused after being threatened
Legally seems to be on a fine line here lol
All the motorcyclist succeeding in doing was getting higher insurance rates.
What is this? A video for the hearing enhanced?
The threat and the mirror fucked him over, he will get 0 compensation for his trashed bike.
Pwned
[удалено]
Yeah, and there's usually a whole lot of boneheaded riding surrounding it, just itching for drama.
Boomer: *”Who’s laughing?”*
Who are you?
RONNIE PICKERING!!!
Who?
The British Jay, from Modern Family. Looks & actions.
The silence at the end is his realization that he fucked up.
Kinda asked for it tbf
I love that man.
OOP
Theoretically if the driver called the police as soon as he drove away saying that he fled for his life after a gentleman said he would rip out his throat during an aggressive road rage incident I don't think he could get charged. What do you think?
If police review the footage from the motorcyclist, they may consider the driver only damaged the bike after the motorcyclist had already started walking away - driver wasn't in immediate danger. Reckon both of them would be charged, though.
Lol the boomer wins. The biker deserved it.
Wait if the old guy pulled out of the roundabout wouldn't he have the right away? I live in the US and the people in the roundabout always have the right of way(granted people here don't understand how they work still) so that guy is mad he was a bad driver? Are roundabouts different in the UK? But still this guy shouldn't be driving! If someone get so mad they stop in the road to confront the other driver they shouldn't be allowed on the road!
I mean it's very hard to know what happened without seeing it. You are completely right, row is given to anyone actively *on* the round about, then anyone to the right (we drive on the left) of your entrance if you aren't on already. However first of all he's probably meaning the guy pulled onto the roundabout not off, there's not a whole lot of situations where coming off a roundabout is going to create a right of way debate since they don't *generally* exit into another junction. So it's likely the old boy pulled out in front of the (probabaly speeding, let's be fair, this will be a 30/20mph area) bike. This also looks like a residential area meaning there's a solid chance it was a mini-roundabout, which is just a cross junction with different right of way rules that *many* people love to ignore. There's also the possibility it was a multilaine roundabout and oldboy was in the center and moved to exit, not seeing the Biker, cutting him off. Again this would likely be an undercutting event and therefore the bikes fault, but I don't think this one's likely considering old boys "there was plenty of room" comment since that'd mean oldboy wanted them to go 2by2 lol. All in all it's probably an issue of the bike going faster than it should have been in a residential and the old boy either not giving a fuck or not seeing him until too late. My money is on old boy intentially pulling out on a twat driving unsafe in his nabourhood because as a Biker you automatically lose fights with cars and I know plenty of oldies who find it funny as fuck to scare the baby meat crayons, but that's a pretty unfounded opinion lol.
Guys a taxi driver, probably lose his license now
Nice
Pn315? PN15 PN13. Eh I saw it
I mean, boomer is going to be sued and possibly imprisoned… not quite a deterrent to “messing with them”
angry cyclist yells "I'll break your fucking skull" while striking the guy's vehicle. Guy says ok and drives off. Bike was parked in front, obstructing him. Old dude isn't going anywhere but home lol
Yea that's not how any of that works.
He was literally driving away from someone who was threatening him. The bike being in his way is inconsequential in this circumstance. Other than his insurance being liable for damages possibly any lawsuit would get laughed out of court with this as evidence.
Yeah cyclist in the wrong too; but less wrong Speaking specifically in terms of legal damages
Ur being downvoted but it's true
It’s really not
Not sure what video you watched but even a lawyer as bad as Lionel Hutz could beat any charges laid here. Camera guy literally made a death threat - “I’ll break your fucking skull” - and the car driver took evasive actions to protect themselves.
I watched a video where someone who wasn’t in danger intentionally drove over a motorcycle
No, you’re right. The driver should have sat there with his window down and let the road raging camera guy “break his fucking skull” because that makes a ton of sense according to u/jackwritespecs
I didn’t say driver should have done that I believe there’s a balance between doing nothing and running over a motorcycle Sorry if that’s tough for you to understand
So in your delusional fantasy land the car should have either swerved to the right and illegally driven on the sidewalk or swerved to the left and hit the road raging camera guy. 
There’s something wrong with this guy isn’t there 😅
In my delusional fantasy you can’t run someone’s motorcycle over even if they’re a jerk
So you avoided the question entirely. Let me try again and dumb it down ever further. Since your position is that the car CANNOT drive straight, do you: a) want them to go left onto the sidewalk where they may hit a pedestrian, a parked vehicle, a house, or a light pole; or b) want them to go right into the oncoming lane where they may hit the camera guy, an oncoming vehicle, or an overtaking vehicle.
I did not; I restated my beliefs to the statement I’m defending You are the one taking the conversation elsewhere
So therefore we have gone full circle. You say the car can’t go straight, won’t go left, and won’t go right. The only remaining option is the driver sits there and gets violently assaulted. Congrats for outing yourself as a clown.
If you don't think someone making death threats while violently smashing your property justifies fleeing the scene through the only available route, you have a poor understanding of reality.
This isn’t America bud. He’s not going to be sued. And probably won’t be imprisoned when he uses the defence that he was leaving a situation he felt threatened in. A jury of 12 people in the UK would likely find this an act that a reasonable person would do when being threatened and having their property attacked.
Hmm Not in the UK so I guess I can’t comment but yeah, seems like a pretty clear case of destruction of property I guess regardless of laws, I would say the driver is at fault. Just using normal sense of right/wrong
I think you’re incorrect on both A motorcyclist parks obstructs the road in front of you and aggressively approaches your vehicle shouting obscenities and punching your car. You’re an aged man, you want to leave this situation. There is likely room to manoeuvre around the motorcycle but adrenaline is running high in your flight response and your aim is just to remove yourself from the situation so you accelerate away striking the vehicle obstructing you as you go. This to me, and I think most others, is normal sense of right and wrong and also a defence in the eyes of the law.
I don’t think I’m incorrect, hence my response
But don’t you want to learn by rea…never mind
I obviously disagree with your reasoning and don’t think there is anything to learn from it
So put yourself in his shoes. And remember you’re not a 30 year old man. You don’t have the physical capabilities to defend yourself if this escalates, which based on the motorcyclists current behaviour it could well, what do you do?
K I’m in his shoes I don’t run over the motorcycle of the man walking away from me. If I’m scared I call the police Edit: and if the man is a real threat I run **him** over, not the bike
You my friend are an absolute menace to society
This isn’t America when you can sue and put someone in prison for touching you mate
That is the quietest yelling I’ve ever heard.
“Hur-der the roondaboot, hur-dur cooming doon!”
You hit my car mirror. I drive over your bike.
Biker moment
Tit for tat
why do brits rage so gently?
Eye for an eye