Your seating will literally be right in the walkway/ path. I wouldn’t do that if I were you. Do you have a dining room in your home or is the small table area all that you have for dining?
I’d say take out the peninsula if you don’t like it but then you’re basically left with an L shaped kitchen and an island which is going to make the kitchen look a LOT smaller in general. It won’t look like a large/ luxury kitchen without the peninsula and the U shaped kitchen with the island. But as far as functionality goes- you probably don’t need the peninsula because it looks like you have plenty of storage and also will have room for a larger table if you wanted.
I’m not understanding what you want to do? Remove the peninsula, get new countertops ( because they’ll be damaged when you remove the one peninsula), patch the floor where the peninsula is, add a larger countertop to the island to creat an overhang for barstools, which will encroach into the walkway to the refrigerator unless you make the island longer and just have seating at the end, where the old peninsula was, because that’s the only area you have left to add seating?
Yeah and it’s already such a nice kitchen. I was assuming he/ she was planning on renovating it anyways- but I think that seems like an expensive waste of money for how nice the kitchen already is. If they have a dining room, just use that for all your large family meals instead and use the small table and peninsula for hanging out/ snacking in the kitchen.
You’re basically on point for everything we were planning on doing. The gap for where the peninsula is to where our primary table is located is way too tight for us as we bump our chairs everytime against the peninsula. We know we want to get rid of the peninsula as it just destroys the flow of the entire area, but what we’re not sure about is if we should get an island that has seating as shown, or an island with seating only on the end..
You don’t have room for seating on the long edge of the island, IMO. That looks like the direct access to the ref from the dining area and it’s right with the bar stool there. In any event, you’d have to provide overhand, so that would mean replacing the island base cabinets with something narrower to allow a place to tuck the barstools in when not in use. You don’t have room to do that by just adding a larger top.
The only way this could work is if you made the base cabinets of the island much shallower and kept the countertop the same width but a bit of a longer length. It would require all new island cabinets and may not look proportional!
I would just demo/remove the shelves and wine rack on the current island (assuming there are cabinets on the kitchen side)and add a couple legs on both ends of the counter top. Make slow precise cuts and with a little trim work should look good, easily accommodate the chairs, and not be too expensive
I don’t think you have room to add stools to the island but I would still get rid of stools altogether and have extra space for the table area. Getting rid of the peninsula altogether is an option but up you would lose some work space.
You'd have to rip out your existing island and install a new island that's designed to be part of an eating counter. Without any space for you to scoot under the counter like you would at a table, you'd have to eat hunched over with terrible posture.
If you remove this side of the island, I mean the cabinets and you buy stools that will go under the granite, it will be fine. The stools are supposed to stay tucked, like chairs and a table. Looking at the first picture, you will use half of the space the white stool is taking now. 😉
Do it! Just use one row of standard depth base cabinets. Then the island will have enough overhang to allow for seating. Use stools with low profile backs.
Yes it would, don't do it. Your primary walkways should be at least 48" behind where people would sit, so with a 15" bar (12" you hit your knees) that's 78.. past where the counter ends now. I can just eyeball that it's not even close.
Don't get rid of peninsula.. it opens a can of worms.
People make this mistake wanting their kitchen to look like something they saw on Pinterest, that isn't the most functional for their actual space. The room division/bar there is actually useful.
I think you'll be fine. Assuming you have a 36" fridge, this walkway is around 42", maybe more. The current island looks like it's the depth of two base cabinets plus overhang so that's about 50". If you gave up the base cabinets on the walkway side, that's more than enough for legs to tuck under. You could even go with a narrower island to give the walkway more room. It's a game of inches so measurements would help. Looking at the picture, it's doable with adequate room.
Yeah the gap between the baseboard and the countertop is 46”, so it’s technically enough but the walkway would be impeded a bit, but we’d also gain one on the other side with the peninsula removed. We’d also make the cabinets less deep like you mentioned, so the barstools would never really be this far out unless someone large was sitting there.
Most sources say you'd want at least 15" of overhang for leg room. If you make the island less deep by removing the base cabinets on the walkway side, that's ~25" of space. So if you account for 18" of overhang, you still have 7" of room for seat backs before you impede on your original walkway space. Obviously when people are seated, it would take up more room. Then extend it all the way to the current peninsula footprint and you can have 4-5 stools. Ideally, you'd want 24" of width per seat. Also, it looks like there is another path to get from one side of kitchen to the other so that helps relieve "traffic."
Your seating will literally be right in the walkway/ path. I wouldn’t do that if I were you. Do you have a dining room in your home or is the small table area all that you have for dining? I’d say take out the peninsula if you don’t like it but then you’re basically left with an L shaped kitchen and an island which is going to make the kitchen look a LOT smaller in general. It won’t look like a large/ luxury kitchen without the peninsula and the U shaped kitchen with the island. But as far as functionality goes- you probably don’t need the peninsula because it looks like you have plenty of storage and also will have room for a larger table if you wanted.
I’m not understanding what you want to do? Remove the peninsula, get new countertops ( because they’ll be damaged when you remove the one peninsula), patch the floor where the peninsula is, add a larger countertop to the island to creat an overhang for barstools, which will encroach into the walkway to the refrigerator unless you make the island longer and just have seating at the end, where the old peninsula was, because that’s the only area you have left to add seating?
Yeah and it’s already such a nice kitchen. I was assuming he/ she was planning on renovating it anyways- but I think that seems like an expensive waste of money for how nice the kitchen already is. If they have a dining room, just use that for all your large family meals instead and use the small table and peninsula for hanging out/ snacking in the kitchen.
You’re basically on point for everything we were planning on doing. The gap for where the peninsula is to where our primary table is located is way too tight for us as we bump our chairs everytime against the peninsula. We know we want to get rid of the peninsula as it just destroys the flow of the entire area, but what we’re not sure about is if we should get an island that has seating as shown, or an island with seating only on the end..
You don’t have room for seating on the long edge of the island, IMO. That looks like the direct access to the ref from the dining area and it’s right with the bar stool there. In any event, you’d have to provide overhand, so that would mean replacing the island base cabinets with something narrower to allow a place to tuck the barstools in when not in use. You don’t have room to do that by just adding a larger top.
The only way this could work is if you made the base cabinets of the island much shallower and kept the countertop the same width but a bit of a longer length. It would require all new island cabinets and may not look proportional!
Why wouldn’t you just get a different dining room table set that fit the space better, rather than remodel the kitchen?
You don’t have enough room for island seating or for peninsula seating.
I would just demo/remove the shelves and wine rack on the current island (assuming there are cabinets on the kitchen side)and add a couple legs on both ends of the counter top. Make slow precise cuts and with a little trim work should look good, easily accommodate the chairs, and not be too expensive
Yeah this is what we’re possibly thinking! We have the flooring for the peninsula removal too thankfully
I think if you make the island bigger to accommodate seating, you’re going to obstruct the hallway from the stairs
I don’t think you have room to add stools to the island but I would still get rid of stools altogether and have extra space for the table area. Getting rid of the peninsula altogether is an option but up you would lose some work space.
You'd have to rip out your existing island and install a new island that's designed to be part of an eating counter. Without any space for you to scoot under the counter like you would at a table, you'd have to eat hunched over with terrible posture.
If you remove this side of the island, I mean the cabinets and you buy stools that will go under the granite, it will be fine. The stools are supposed to stay tucked, like chairs and a table. Looking at the first picture, you will use half of the space the white stool is taking now. 😉
Do it! Just use one row of standard depth base cabinets. Then the island will have enough overhang to allow for seating. Use stools with low profile backs.
Yes it would, don't do it. Your primary walkways should be at least 48" behind where people would sit, so with a 15" bar (12" you hit your knees) that's 78.. past where the counter ends now. I can just eyeball that it's not even close. Don't get rid of peninsula.. it opens a can of worms. People make this mistake wanting their kitchen to look like something they saw on Pinterest, that isn't the most functional for their actual space. The room division/bar there is actually useful.
I think you'll be fine. Assuming you have a 36" fridge, this walkway is around 42", maybe more. The current island looks like it's the depth of two base cabinets plus overhang so that's about 50". If you gave up the base cabinets on the walkway side, that's more than enough for legs to tuck under. You could even go with a narrower island to give the walkway more room. It's a game of inches so measurements would help. Looking at the picture, it's doable with adequate room.
Yeah the gap between the baseboard and the countertop is 46”, so it’s technically enough but the walkway would be impeded a bit, but we’d also gain one on the other side with the peninsula removed. We’d also make the cabinets less deep like you mentioned, so the barstools would never really be this far out unless someone large was sitting there.
Most sources say you'd want at least 15" of overhang for leg room. If you make the island less deep by removing the base cabinets on the walkway side, that's ~25" of space. So if you account for 18" of overhang, you still have 7" of room for seat backs before you impede on your original walkway space. Obviously when people are seated, it would take up more room. Then extend it all the way to the current peninsula footprint and you can have 4-5 stools. Ideally, you'd want 24" of width per seat. Also, it looks like there is another path to get from one side of kitchen to the other so that helps relieve "traffic."
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