TBF, I remember when she was still in WWE, there was a Twitter account that posted a video of her making this moan.
I don't think Sasha even realizes she makes these sounds
AEW Women’s Division has always been “for the male gaze” with a few notable exceptions like Shida and Statlander who got over organically and then were thrown to the side by Tony.
So many of their most featured women have a gimmick that is 100% meant to pop horny dudes
I'm so confused, in 2024 why are we doing this? Wasn't the whole "Divas Revolution" to get rid of horny, NSFW women's wrestling? Its 2024, WWE just did a really good Becky Lynch vs Rhea Ripley match at WM, while AEW has women kissing each other to make men, pop, in more than one way.
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So Tony watched NXT and saw all the models/athletes, and thought "let's remove all the personality and athletics from it and just show hot girls on TV"
They are going so TNA right now
TNA Knockouts division had Gail Kim and Awesome Kong. AEW's womens division has never had anything remotely approach the level of great that was. Just let that sink in.
Feel like this segment alone is a good example of what's wrong with the company
1) Going with the late 90s/mid 2000s WWE style segments (I don't think anyone asked for HLA in 2024)
2) I don't think Mina Shirakawa is even signed to the company(yet?) so TV time is going to her instead of women actually signed to the Dub.
3) From what I've read, a lotta this stuff stems from Stardom segments so you'd need to watch a whole other show to get what's going on.
1) Yep
2) She isn't and I don't think she will be.
3) And unless you're fluent in Japanese, you're reliant on Google Translate and fan translation. I love Stardom but it is not easy to follow.
About your second point, I think she will eventually sign with AEW. At least, if it were up to her, I think she would sign it already. She always gave me the impression that her biggest goal is to sign to an US companie.
A whole other show that you actually need to pay for cause Watchwrestling doesn't bother, and a whole other show that has no English commentary or subtitles.
Im guessing Tony believes that fans of his product watch every single piece of wrestling that's out there. Just because he takes long 8 minute naps so he can watch as much as possible, doesn't mean everyone else does.
I've thought this ever since his comments about it being "hard to be a wrestling fan 365 days a year". The only way that makes sense is if you think "being a wrestling fan" means you watch every show from every company like it's your job.
It was clear when you look back at how the Butcher and the Blade were introduced like everyone was instsntly supposed to know who they were. I mean, I knew Andy was in Every Time I Die but it didn't click in my head that he was the Butcher as I complete forgot he wrestled on the side.
So after Sasha Money watched Becky and Bayley at WM and then watched this, she had to know she made the right choice right?
There is just no way she wished she could’ve been in Bayley’s corner for her big WM moment or been in that 6-woman tag on night 1.
No. That would be impossible. Clearly she has to know she made the right choice when she sees that Britt Baker(D.M.D) hasn’t been seen in months or that Sriracha has been relegated to Friday’s to do love triangle stories with Ruby or that they’ve already moved past the Ventriloquist so that Toni’s flunky can get kisses.
She went to AEW for the pay day, which good on her she got. I can’t say I wouldn’t do the same in her shoes. Lighter schedule for more money.
She can always go back and do a four horsewoman send off in the future.
It's kind of ironic. I'd 100% take the bigger paycheck and less work. Yeah, I'd be pissing my legacy down my leg, but it's one day a week, soon to be less after Tiny gets bored
Is this supposed to be the Global women revolution Mone was talking about?
Going back to early 2000s WWF vibes. I mean this whole Toni Storm/Maraya and Paige segments are just screaming at audience "look at us, are we hot or not? You find us hot right? Please don't change the channel"
It is so hypocritical for a company which mocked WWE for using women with certain looks, and ended up doing the same thing when WWE has moved on from it.
It was definitely one of those awkward kisses that doesn't remotely look passionate or even sexy. Were they going for Mickie James/Trish Stratus vibes here or what?
Oooof I dont know if this is the same division Britt Baker helped legitimize. The womens division (when it was booked properly) was full of killers and killer matches.
This whole episode felt like AEW walking backwards towards the worst parts of early 2000's WCW and WWE/F
How do you pride yourself on having a sports based presentation with win loss bullshit leaderboards but also bring in random talent from different promotion every single fucking day.
Imagine the Milwaukee Bucks playing the Lockport Bulls. Giannis doesn't show up, but they got a replacement for him thats a nobody who played some great games for CSKA Moscow. He drops 50 points, refuses to introduce himself to the average fan, leaves. The next day, no one talks about it.
#Revolutionary
This is funny if you watch Stardom like i do but to people who've never seen it which i would assume is a decent chunk of the AEW audience this is just weird. But...i'm sorry i can't for the life of me dislike anything Shirakawa's involved in, she's like one of my favorite modern female wrestlers ever.....
And she's hot as fuck too
I’m all for Club Venus US Edition and Shirakawa doing anything but I also can’t be convinced this did much for casual fans that NEED to have their eyes on this show to keep it going.
What was the point of this? Just to shoehorn another random wrestler no one has ever heard of into the show? Keep up the great work Tony! Ratings and attendance should be through the roof anytime now.
Last year Mina formed a faction in Stardom called Club Venus with Mariah as the first member. It was Mina and her gang of pretty Gaijins. Other came and went but they were a tag team champs as well.
Stardom just had a US show with a one night Club Venus reunion. Toni Storm came out and and now they are setting up a [feud](https://twitter.com/Himanshu_Doi/status/1775980956010360967) for Mariah love or some shit.
That's yet another problem with AEW; you have to do homework to understand its angles, its stars, and the people it's telling you are the "best in the world." If you don't follow RoH, obsessively scroll CageMatch, and routinely follow most Japanese promotions, you WILL NOT understand AEW. And that's great for keeping a small, niche audience, but it's terrible for growing a promotion. You *want* casuals to catch your show and be *instantly* hooked and drawn to the programming on the screen, you don't want people to tune in and see two people they *don't* recognize, fighting over nothing in particular, for no real reason. This isn't a serious company.
Dude Tony makes it hard for his dubbalo army to defend his company. Like bro this is not the first pseudo lesbian thing they’ve done and it’s genuinely out of place and pretty gross to gay bait in 2024. You can have a lesbian character or story no doubt, but playing it as a way to pop your incel fan base is cornball
Nothing wrong with women expressing their sexuality, but I feel sometimes that the purpose of AEWs women's division is to provide jerk off material to the m@rks in the audience
TK just throwing sh*t out there to see what sticks. Last night's Dynamite was a disaster. From Ospreay, Mercedes, the footage, and the FTR and Bucks scuffle was so sloppy.
This is the most "male gaze" lesbian fetishizing stuff I've seen. Why are people pretending AEW is the "progressive" company and the evil fed is ran by neocons and fascists when this shit is literally being shown on television **in 2024**.
Is the Divas era back? Anyway, who are these two wrestlers? I don’t really keep up up with *all* the dumb shit that the dub does. SCJ is my primary source for premium dub content.
Months of buildup and payoff. We got to see them go from complete strangers to besties.
A better comparison would've been Trick\Lash, that one came ouutta nowhere.
Lyra and Tatum weren't so blatantly sexualized, and they're telling an actual story that leads to viewers watching a wrestling match and being interested in the characters.
Between this and the Mone Moan.
*Billy Idol intensifies*
It’s a good day to….wank again!
True jerk material.
TBF, I remember when she was still in WWE, there was a Twitter account that posted a video of her making this moan. I don't think Sasha even realizes she makes these sounds
You liar. Sauce or didn’t happen 😤
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Mone did a very interesting post-attack moan last night. Between that and this, 👏👏this is wrestling👏👏
2006 called. It wants its diva division back.
Mickie James and Trish Stratus werid lesbian storyline in 2006 was better
no it wasnt, but for the sake of making TK never do this shit again, lets say it was
Meh.. I found the storyline quite entertaining and their match at WrestleMania 22
Mickie vs Trish was the best woman's match/story of all WrestleManias until like mania 32
It was sexier, which I guess was the goal.
Well one had Trish Stratus of course it was sexier. That's a cheat code.
Mickie James in mini-skirts and thongs must have been God-mode then.
Oh it was for me
AEW Women’s Division has always been “for the male gaze” with a few notable exceptions like Shida and Statlander who got over organically and then were thrown to the side by Tony. So many of their most featured women have a gimmick that is 100% meant to pop horny dudes
I'm convinced Sky Blue got the push she got because Tony saw that people were talking about her butt a lot on Twitter.
it’s the best example of the male gaze too, what makes her a babyface is that she “appreciates the attention” from the neckbeards
So tony the new Vince
Tiny is -50k viewers away from running a bra and panties match.
I’m a fan of nostalgia, I’m down
It's between Jericho and Eddie
So… a girdle and cup match?
I'm so confused, in 2024 why are we doing this? Wasn't the whole "Divas Revolution" to get rid of horny, NSFW women's wrestling? Its 2024, WWE just did a really good Becky Lynch vs Rhea Ripley match at WM, while AEW has women kissing each other to make men, pop, in more than one way.
And the build was Becky complaining about Rhea being sexy to her fans and Rhea welcoming it..
I think men should be kissing too to even things out
You know a show is legendary bad when nobody is talking about this. Are we really doing HLA in 2024 Tiny?
dae hla feeling has been restored?
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This segment made him feel like a kid again.
What is HLA? I know I am gonna look stupid because it is going to be so obvious
Hot. Lesbian. Action. I’m not kidding. That was a thing they really did. Then 3 Minute Warning destroyed the lesbians.
So Tony watched NXT and saw all the models/athletes, and thought "let's remove all the personality and athletics from it and just show hot girls on TV" They are going so TNA right now
TNA Knockouts division had Gail Kim and Awesome Kong. AEW's womens division has never had anything remotely approach the level of great that was. Just let that sink in.
The Dub started with a physically broken down Kong and thought that was enough
He saw the Lyra and Tatum stuff and was like "okay but what if I just made them lesbians who make out with each other"
I miss the blatant yet unsaid of the IIconics. I bet if i look back I can find some in Toxic Attraction too
Yeah but that’s what they should have been! Also it wouldn’t have been fetishized cause Shawn is a good Booker’
GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS
Acknowledge the brother of the tribal chief saving you from temptation
God bless 3 Minute Warning
We truly didn’t know how good we had it with those two. Can you imagine them in the current WWE? Jesus Christ.
I love how they even had a nameplate that said The Lesbians
You missed an infamous period of embarrassing segments. But don't worry, you're here for a new golden era of embarrassing segments.
Oh I have seen the segments lol I just didn't know the term HLA
https://youtu.be/mQ1OwB3Kkn8?si=cUIvaTD-uHwGlBnj
I switched to X-men '97 after watching Perry get folded by Punk. Guess I should go back and finish the rest of the episode.
UCE I WAS NOT READY
I feel like we’re getting time travel shenanigans out of this.
You made the right call, uce.
After he *tried* coming after Eric Bischoff, no less.
NO CHANCE IN HELL
wonder why Rossy might be recommending stardom talent away from AEW?
He is right but the Stardom simps and AEW fanboys want this garbage.
DAE PORNXT?
Even PORNXXXT had the restraint to not do a Tatum/Lyra kiss spot
And even if they did, at least there would have been a story build up to it.
Listen, I'm not hating on it
Does the tatum spit bottle count?
Next week on Dynamite: "Malakai, you think you're true evil? You haven't seen me running this cursed show"
Feel like this segment alone is a good example of what's wrong with the company 1) Going with the late 90s/mid 2000s WWE style segments (I don't think anyone asked for HLA in 2024) 2) I don't think Mina Shirakawa is even signed to the company(yet?) so TV time is going to her instead of women actually signed to the Dub. 3) From what I've read, a lotta this stuff stems from Stardom segments so you'd need to watch a whole other show to get what's going on.
1) Yep 2) She isn't and I don't think she will be. 3) And unless you're fluent in Japanese, you're reliant on Google Translate and fan translation. I love Stardom but it is not easy to follow.
About your second point, I think she will eventually sign with AEW. At least, if it were up to her, I think she would sign it already. She always gave me the impression that her biggest goal is to sign to an US companie.
A whole other show that you actually need to pay for cause Watchwrestling doesn't bother, and a whole other show that has no English commentary or subtitles.
Even the heels act like teenagers from the early 2000’s. It’s all just so out of touch.
Im guessing Tony believes that fans of his product watch every single piece of wrestling that's out there. Just because he takes long 8 minute naps so he can watch as much as possible, doesn't mean everyone else does.
I've thought this ever since his comments about it being "hard to be a wrestling fan 365 days a year". The only way that makes sense is if you think "being a wrestling fan" means you watch every show from every company like it's your job.
It was clear when you look back at how the Butcher and the Blade were introduced like everyone was instsntly supposed to know who they were. I mean, I knew Andy was in Every Time I Die but it didn't click in my head that he was the Butcher as I complete forgot he wrestled on the side.
I know Mina and Mariah were a tag team in Japan. I don’t think they ever made out on TV over there though
Correct.
LIV SHOULD DO THIS TO RHEA…BONK
HBK failed us with the Lyra and Tatum storyline
GODDAMNIT UCE. WHY HAVE YOU SUMMONED SUCH SPIRITS INTO THIS HOUSE
Jesus Chris I don’t think my heart can take that. It would be glorious though.
The brother bonked himself down
Probably the most selling on AEW this year
"Where the best *wrestle*"
Tongue wrestling it seems. 
Oh they sure do! Throw in nameless Japanese talent that only Tony and Dave knows and there you have it.
So after Sasha Money watched Becky and Bayley at WM and then watched this, she had to know she made the right choice right? There is just no way she wished she could’ve been in Bayley’s corner for her big WM moment or been in that 6-woman tag on night 1. No. That would be impossible. Clearly she has to know she made the right choice when she sees that Britt Baker(D.M.D) hasn’t been seen in months or that Sriracha has been relegated to Friday’s to do love triangle stories with Ruby or that they’ve already moved past the Ventriloquist so that Toni’s flunky can get kisses.
She went to AEW for the pay day, which good on her she got. I can’t say I wouldn’t do the same in her shoes. Lighter schedule for more money. She can always go back and do a four horsewoman send off in the future.
Goofies are the ones doing “you could’ve done something special and had bangers, but get that bag I guess” now
It’s actually very feminist of me to congratulate her on chasing the bag
I am all about the Jerk mind you I just would have done the same in her shoes.
It's kind of ironic. I'd 100% take the bigger paycheck and less work. Yeah, I'd be pissing my legacy down my leg, but it's one day a week, soon to be less after Tiny gets bored
Huge Pop!
I’ve never been less turned on by two women kissing. I don’t even understand where this storyline is going.
I personally find Mina to sufficiently hot asf regardless of the situation.
Oh she is gorgeous, I didn’t mean to imply otherwise, the weirdness just took me out of it.
DAE Vince is back?
If not him, Johnny Ace is in the house for sure, LOL.
Is this supposed to be the Global women revolution Mone was talking about? Going back to early 2000s WWF vibes. I mean this whole Toni Storm/Maraya and Paige segments are just screaming at audience "look at us, are we hot or not? You find us hot right? Please don't change the channel" It is so hypocritical for a company which mocked WWE for using women with certain looks, and ended up doing the same thing when WWE has moved on from it.
That kiss could have used more work rate. 3 stars.
It was definitely one of those awkward kisses that doesn't remotely look passionate or even sexy. Were they going for Mickie James/Trish Stratus vibes here or what?
I feel like I see a new woman competitor kissing opponent gif out of AEW almost every week. Wtf is going on over there?
This is NOT porNXT
They should have shown more of this instead of the the schoolyard scrap... And if you'll excuse me, I'm off to horny jail.
This was literally the best part of the show and no i'm not just saying that because i worship the ground Mina Shirakawa walks on, not at all
Oooof I dont know if this is the same division Britt Baker helped legitimize. The womens division (when it was booked properly) was full of killers and killer matches. This whole episode felt like AEW walking backwards towards the worst parts of early 2000's WCW and WWE/F
How do you pride yourself on having a sports based presentation with win loss bullshit leaderboards but also bring in random talent from different promotion every single fucking day. Imagine the Milwaukee Bucks playing the Lockport Bulls. Giannis doesn't show up, but they got a replacement for him thats a nobody who played some great games for CSKA Moscow. He drops 50 points, refuses to introduce himself to the average fan, leaves. The next day, no one talks about it. #Revolutionary
This is funny if you watch Stardom like i do but to people who've never seen it which i would assume is a decent chunk of the AEW audience this is just weird. But...i'm sorry i can't for the life of me dislike anything Shirakawa's involved in, she's like one of my favorite modern female wrestlers ever..... And she's hot as fuck too
I’m all for Club Venus US Edition and Shirakawa doing anything but I also can’t be convinced this did much for casual fans that NEED to have their eyes on this show to keep it going.
Thank god Giulia is signed to WWE.
So AEW is going the PorNXXXT route? **Shawn Michaels:** We should sue.
What was the point of this? Just to shoehorn another random wrestler no one has ever heard of into the show? Keep up the great work Tony! Ratings and attendance should be through the roof anytime now.
I dont follow stardom, any goofs here know why this segment went down this way? Cos it confused the hell out of me
Last year Mina formed a faction in Stardom called Club Venus with Mariah as the first member. It was Mina and her gang of pretty Gaijins. Other came and went but they were a tag team champs as well. Stardom just had a US show with a one night Club Venus reunion. Toni Storm came out and and now they are setting up a [feud](https://twitter.com/Himanshu_Doi/status/1775980956010360967) for Mariah love or some shit.
Thanks for explaining, but how is anyone just watching the Dub supposed to know any of that?
That's yet another problem with AEW; you have to do homework to understand its angles, its stars, and the people it's telling you are the "best in the world." If you don't follow RoH, obsessively scroll CageMatch, and routinely follow most Japanese promotions, you WILL NOT understand AEW. And that's great for keeping a small, niche audience, but it's terrible for growing a promotion. You *want* casuals to catch your show and be *instantly* hooked and drawn to the programming on the screen, you don't want people to tune in and see two people they *don't* recognize, fighting over nothing in particular, for no real reason. This isn't a serious company.
Thank you. I only saw the picture before so I thought the kiss happened during a match
wtf is this shit
What did we ever do as Lesbians to have an empty headed dumb fuck like Tony Khan to allow the worst looking lesbian kiss to be aired on TV?
I know what Tony did after the show
Tony jorkin his peanuts so hard he sees visions of the hidden gem in the shadows of the corners of his eyes
This isn't HLA, this is queer storytelling fed shill! Tiny cares about representation, another win for the good guys!
Maybe AEW isn’t so bad after all
When the music hit and this woman ran down to the ring, there was no reaction from the crowd AT ALL.
Dude Tony makes it hard for his dubbalo army to defend his company. Like bro this is not the first pseudo lesbian thing they’ve done and it’s genuinely out of place and pretty gross to gay bait in 2024. You can have a lesbian character or story no doubt, but playing it as a way to pop your incel fan base is cornball
2 nominations for most disgusting promotional tactic of the year award in 1 night 👏
mariah and mina get behind me they don't understand your game
Nothing wrong with women expressing their sexuality, but I feel sometimes that the purpose of AEWs women's division is to provide jerk off material to the m@rks in the audience
Esp because im pretty sure these two are straight.
DAE watching AEW every week now?
HLA is BACK ON THE MENU BOYS! #WomensRevolution
HLA.
TK just throwing sh*t out there to see what sticks. Last night's Dynamite was a disaster. From Ospreay, Mercedes, the footage, and the FTR and Bucks scuffle was so sloppy.
Can you believe the Fed shows booty of women wearing booty shorts????? Disgusting!!! Now THIS!!! THIS is high quality storytelling
Could you imagine the outrage if this happened on WWE TV?
I mean, this help makes AEW watchable.
I like AEW now.
ok fine ill watch Dynamite
Literally trying this kinda shit to get viewers now 😂
I jerked alright
Probably the only good thing to come out of that show last night.
This is divas era shit gotta do this to pop a rating huh?
Is this PorNXXXT?
HLA HLA
He wants AEW to be ECW so bad.
Daytime Emmy award winner huh?
WTF, I love wrestling now.
Gotta pop those ratings, BrUv! Did you know Hunter was grinding on the bosses daughter?!
They're really getting desperate....
What is this from????
UOENO type beat
Restore the feeling
Wow I didn't know things got this bad
Maybe aew not so bad
They really started a revolution lol.
Is the glasses in her hand cgi?
I follow this girl on Instagram who watches wrestling and reacts to it. She was visible in her confusion and possible annoyance here.
Real sports feel
Mina is awesome. Fuck the haters.
Vince Russo Bitchslap level shit
Is this from last night?
This is the most "male gaze" lesbian fetishizing stuff I've seen. Why are people pretending AEW is the "progressive" company and the evil fed is ran by neocons and fascists when this shit is literally being shown on television **in 2024**.
This would’ve been some edgy shit in 2002.
Cues up Bischoff’s Hot Lesbian Action promos
The hypocrisy lmao
Vince was spotted backstage…
Thatababy
Y’all can hate all y’all want but my stardom lesbian ship kissed on live tv I’m happy. Maybe this will make Tony make a real tag womens division
Only thing that’s ever made me pay attention to AEW.
Less cringy than most of the episode.
I’ve always been a huge fan of HLA!
this but unironically.
Is the Divas era back? Anyway, who are these two wrestlers? I don’t really keep up up with *all* the dumb shit that the dub does. SCJ is my primary source for premium dub content.
I got turned on so it's good :) /s
Also, what's the difference between this and the Lyra/Tatum stuff? 🤔
The difference is that the Lyra/Tatum stuff is actually 1) leading to a match that people want to see and 2) elevating a talent in Tatum
Months of buildup and payoff. We got to see them go from complete strangers to besties. A better comparison would've been Trick\Lash, that one came ouutta nowhere.
Lyra/Tatum isn't HLA and it's a one sided relationship to show Tatum is crazy.
Lyra and Tatum weren't so blatantly sexualized, and they're telling an actual story that leads to viewers watching a wrestling match and being interested in the characters.