My take is.... Basically nothing - the gist is that something so terrible happened that protecting humanity and wiping humanity out became the same thing, so the Foundations's directive changed accordingly. And that's where the true terror of the story comes from:>! the Foundation failed!<, >!humanity survives!<, and>! they left that something not only uncontained, but also undetected.!<
rebuild humanity, pretty sure the thing that they tried to contain is aware of their attempt and is mad, even after the universe restart, and the foundation won't find it until they die
Considering what I think the Entity may REALLY have been—the divine presence in humanity misidentified and falsely accused due to a cognitohazard—I think you hit the nail on the head here. Yes, I know this is not the majority canon but Tanhony seems to have left room in 5000 for multiple interpretations.
This song by Thrice REALLY nails how the Entity, if it is indeed what I think it is, would have felt about it all.
https://youtu.be/229lV2pdQos?si=uH19e2IWUq5Ldgwb
Let's put it into perspective from *It's* POV: You latched onto this species collective psyche back before names existed, and for the first time in potentially millions of years a large group of beings directly observed you; became aware of you and what they determined were the parameters of your purpose, and were thoroughly, wholly and utterly >!***DISGUSTED***!<. They looked upon you with such virulent disdain, such infinite Indifference, that they excised their very consciousnesses from the collective in order to bring you what you had brought to them: (Harm/Pain.)
Then there's what came next: Their convictions reinvigorated by how admonishably repulsed they were with you, they changed their mission's very essence; reforming their *raison d'etre* around ridding this world of you, beyond the threshold of obsession and into the waters of unadulterated psychopathy with abhorrent optimization and über-brutalistic efficiency. Their new objective, to bring you down to a level at which you can be annihilated at, by culling your habitat; that, their ethics committee, and overseers in unanimous agreement, have found to be >!*more humane than letting you continue to inhabit it*!< (:Empathy)
Finally, there's the *piece du resistance*: Pietro Wilson & SCP-5000 itself, the suit. You and the suit itself have kept him alive long enough to learn of what has happened without directly bringing attention to your own existence unless necessary to push him onward >!(like when he heard the voice on the other end of the radio.)!< Even that was slowly worn out after the Global Occult Coalition failed at Ganzir. By chance, he meets Bright before making his way to you, and the notion is instilled in your last hope that he may very well die before making it. He begins to question everything until he finally reaches the location you are being contained within. He can feel your presence, and it comes off like a gun being pressed to the back of his skull. Whether it be urgency or desperation that made you express yourself to him, it matters little because he made it and you have been saved. Right up until the Foundation attacked.
Upon reaching your doorstep, with your salvation in his hand, he tries to hand it off to you, but he can't. Or rather... he won't because >!you're directly interfering with his subconscious now, and disabling him from reconciliation between his actions and his higher thought.!< You need him to come down with the package together because >!you are not physically able to press the button.!<
So to end his pain and to satisfy his empathy before his end, you permit him to become aware of you. And all he can manage, with his clarity, realized in his demise... is:
>!****"Oh, so that's how it is." (Death)***!<
I'd be fucking horrified. You've been feeding off these fuckers for millenia indeterminate but suddenly they induce a single immune response from food poisoning and almost succeed in literally killing you with (relatively speaking) no warning at all.
Either end it themselves, rebuild humanity without the link to "it" using SCP 2000, or (what I like to think) find a way to another universe and start gathering different versions of the Foundation, telling them about "it", and planning to commit a multiverse-wide genocide
2000 is the biggest “fix humanity” scp the foundation has besides the 055-579 trick. I think that 2000 was the only one mentioned because it’s the biggest and most well known of the sort. We can infer the foundation in 5000 destroyed all the others, or at least put them out of commission
The Foundation also have several benevolent terraforming, human colonization SCPs. Some still in their active reach, some beyond after their space deployment.
It varies. They may have attempted to reconstruct the human psychospace. They may have attempted to repair SCP-2000 using other anomalies to reset humanity without the influence of *It*. Ultimately, we will never know because, for better or for worse, Pietro succeeded in delivering SCP-055 to SCP-579, resulting in what is essentially the nipping of a branch of the world tree.
This is kind of answered in SCP-5000’s spiritual successor SCP-7841-ZA, it really depends on if it’s meant to be a prequel (showing us the origins of “IT”) or a sequel (showing us what would’ve happened if Pietro hadn’t reset the timeline).
- [**SCP-5000 - Why?**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-5000) (+3394) by *Tanhony*
- [**SCP-7841-ZA - V is for Violence**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-7841) (+165) by *Tanhony*
Wow…that tale is amazing! I wonder what got Bayel to realize there was value in the SCP he had rather than to dismiss it or do the same things the others were doing? Considering he presumably also lacked fear or empathy, that’s really striking that he still managed to put the pieces together. I mean, we have Bayel’s reasoning yet he’s reaching that conclusion without the ability to feel.
Unless Bayel singularly wrote & logged the SCP-7841-ZA entry into the database, Bayel's acting on some order by at least some part of the Foundation, as entailed in the SCP database entry.
I couldn’t really tell, to be honest. Though the fact that Bayel himself was on board enough with it to see it all the way through to the end when he could easily have dismissed it and rebelled, that tells me he had to have found it worthwhile himself, since he isn’t capable of empathy or compassion. (He wasn’t under threat by force either, since he kept going even when no one could see or hold him accountable for his actions.)
I actually came up with a possible theory after I turned in last night. What happened in 5000 removed those traits from humans but it presumably didn’t remove them from animals, to include other great apes. I wonder if Bayel realized by observing animals (before human interference became too toxic to see their natural behaviors anymore) that there was something they had that was missing in humanity? Hell, even brain scans would probably show things that respond in animals that don’t in humans in that world. If he realized animals were able to better stay in equilibrium with each other than humans, then a human with an “animalistic” psychology (which should be taken as a compliment in the way “human” would be in any other universe) could indeed be someone he’d view as having greater staying power.
It still begs the question of why, since Bayel won’t be around to benefit from it himself, the survival of others still matters to him. It sounds like he himself isn’t quite sure TBH.
They were fighting the creature from SCP-2998, which feeds on human suffering. By killing every human and therefore ending, in the long run, all human suffering, they planned to starve the creature to death, ending its effects permanently.
Presumably, they planned to repopulate after this; it's proven by the hidden dialogue that it's possible to make a small number of humans immune to SCP-2998, such as the soldiers who don't feel pain, and so everybody who was left after the purge, and the end of human suffering, would rebuild and continue the human race.
We don't know.
It's also worth noting, the only source we have that the Foundation *actually* wanted to wipe out humanity was... the Foundation. An organisation whose **entire purpose** was to lie to the world about the nature of the anomalous. Why would they tell the truth *now?*
Once they starve out and destroy the entity, they'd probably rebuild society. They could try rebuilding SCP-2000 since any humans they'll clone again won't be affected by the Entity.
This is my interpretation of 5000 and ties in SCP-2718, SCP-682, and [the Dark Web](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/the-dark-web-dke79-o2rg5-4jlw6). Basically, the [disgusting](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/disgusting) tale but with a positive ending outlook.
>!All human and human consciousness, being sources of Elan Vital Energy, are... food sources for the Entity that feeds off the EVE produced by human consciousness—consciousness experienced irrespective of whether they're physically living or dead. [This is how 2718 ties in.] They've been infected to become such, there is no such thing as Death anymore, simply eternal consciousness and pain. The Foundation personnel in 5000 have been memetically treated ("harden your hearts") to not experience that pain. [This is why Commander Morrison and Doctor Rhodes begin screaming in pain after Ross tells them about 2718, because they haven't been "treated".] While they don't *experience* it, they know *of* it and how it's inexplicably tied to the human experience and existence. So the Entity is the greatest threat to all of humanity and must be dealt with. However, simply curing/"treating" all living humans wouldn't do anything but alert the Entity that they knew of its existence since a not insignificant part of its food source would be cut off. The Foundation's portion getting lost wouldn't be noticeable, but all 8 billion physically living people *and the people they then continue to create* disappearing would be too large to ignore. Instead of an infinitely expanding source of food, the Entity's food source would become suspiciously finite. So, the Foundation was killing off all uncured/un"treated" humans (i.e. the rest of humanity) *as fast as possible* as there's no way to cure them *or* end the Entity as long as untreated living humans still exist. [As fast as possible so people experience the pain of consciousness after death for as little time as possible. Also, they had to be quick strategically because eventually the Enrity will notice as yhe food source would slowly stop expanding.] Unfortunately, SCP-2000 had been contaminated and any/all humans it created would also never experience True Death, so that's why Yellowstone had to be destroyed as well. Once all untreated humans have "died" aka died the pseudo death, the end of living flesh, then the Foundation can directly attack/kill/end/terminate the Entity head on and bring back True Death. This ends the unimaginable agony of countless human consciousnesses.!<
But then, in 5000, there's *one man* who escaped and thus >!doomed all of humanity that had lived and will ever live to Unimaginable, Unending eternal Pain!< and *that's* the true horror.
They didn't think that part through, they only thought about the wacky SCPs they would use, and not what they would do ounce they actually complete their objective
**Articles mentioned in this submission** [**SCP-5000 - Why?**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-5000) (+3394) by *Tanhony*
My take is.... Basically nothing - the gist is that something so terrible happened that protecting humanity and wiping humanity out became the same thing, so the Foundations's directive changed accordingly. And that's where the true terror of the story comes from:>! the Foundation failed!<, >!humanity survives!<, and>! they left that something not only uncontained, but also undetected.!<
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Presumably finish it off by ending themselves?
They’re no longer considered human in Why. They don’t really count as human anymore.
Is that what they think of themselves or what the remaining sane people understand to be true?
I mean, an anomaly that actively harms human beings with his presence doesn’t harm personnel handling him. So I’d say that’s evidence enough.
Both, I think?
It's safe to say they likely >!excised their own consciences from the collective human subconscious!<
That's insane. Imagine having to be a spy embedded into the Lonely Only unit?
well no because (according to the canon that an entity causes human suffering) the foundation cured themselves
rebuild humanity, pretty sure the thing that they tried to contain is aware of their attempt and is mad, even after the universe restart, and the foundation won't find it until they die
If anything, I'd imagine it's more horrified than angry.
Considering what I think the Entity may REALLY have been—the divine presence in humanity misidentified and falsely accused due to a cognitohazard—I think you hit the nail on the head here. Yes, I know this is not the majority canon but Tanhony seems to have left room in 5000 for multiple interpretations. This song by Thrice REALLY nails how the Entity, if it is indeed what I think it is, would have felt about it all. https://youtu.be/229lV2pdQos?si=uH19e2IWUq5Ldgwb
Let's put it into perspective from *It's* POV: You latched onto this species collective psyche back before names existed, and for the first time in potentially millions of years a large group of beings directly observed you; became aware of you and what they determined were the parameters of your purpose, and were thoroughly, wholly and utterly >!***DISGUSTED***!<. They looked upon you with such virulent disdain, such infinite Indifference, that they excised their very consciousnesses from the collective in order to bring you what you had brought to them: (Harm/Pain.) Then there's what came next: Their convictions reinvigorated by how admonishably repulsed they were with you, they changed their mission's very essence; reforming their *raison d'etre* around ridding this world of you, beyond the threshold of obsession and into the waters of unadulterated psychopathy with abhorrent optimization and über-brutalistic efficiency. Their new objective, to bring you down to a level at which you can be annihilated at, by culling your habitat; that, their ethics committee, and overseers in unanimous agreement, have found to be >!*more humane than letting you continue to inhabit it*!< (:Empathy) Finally, there's the *piece du resistance*: Pietro Wilson & SCP-5000 itself, the suit. You and the suit itself have kept him alive long enough to learn of what has happened without directly bringing attention to your own existence unless necessary to push him onward >!(like when he heard the voice on the other end of the radio.)!< Even that was slowly worn out after the Global Occult Coalition failed at Ganzir. By chance, he meets Bright before making his way to you, and the notion is instilled in your last hope that he may very well die before making it. He begins to question everything until he finally reaches the location you are being contained within. He can feel your presence, and it comes off like a gun being pressed to the back of his skull. Whether it be urgency or desperation that made you express yourself to him, it matters little because he made it and you have been saved. Right up until the Foundation attacked. Upon reaching your doorstep, with your salvation in his hand, he tries to hand it off to you, but he can't. Or rather... he won't because >!you're directly interfering with his subconscious now, and disabling him from reconciliation between his actions and his higher thought.!< You need him to come down with the package together because >!you are not physically able to press the button.!< So to end his pain and to satisfy his empathy before his end, you permit him to become aware of you. And all he can manage, with his clarity, realized in his demise... is: >!****"Oh, so that's how it is." (Death)***!<
I'd be fucking horrified. You've been feeding off these fuckers for millenia indeterminate but suddenly they induce a single immune response from food poisoning and almost succeed in literally killing you with (relatively speaking) no warning at all.
Though, not counting the author's own published backstory to 5000.
You mean the one that dropped with series nine?
Series 8.
Link it. I know which one you're speaking of, just forgot the number
SCP-7841.
The *what* now? Do tell!
[**SCP-5000 - Why?**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-5000) (+3394) by *Tanhony*
Thank you, Marv.
Either end it themselves, rebuild humanity without the link to "it" using SCP 2000, or (what I like to think) find a way to another universe and start gathering different versions of the Foundation, telling them about "it", and planning to commit a multiverse-wide genocide
I remember the article saying they destroyed 2000
Specifically by triggering Yellowstone. Humanity would be utterly and truly gone.
Not necessarily, since 2000, while the most popular, it isn't the only early-series Foundation resource that enables the restoration humanity.
2000 is the biggest “fix humanity” scp the foundation has besides the 055-579 trick. I think that 2000 was the only one mentioned because it’s the biggest and most well known of the sort. We can infer the foundation in 5000 destroyed all the others, or at least put them out of commission
The Foundation also have several benevolent terraforming, human colonization SCPs. Some still in their active reach, some beyond after their space deployment.
[**SCP-2000 - Deus Ex Machina**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2000) (+2466) by *HammerMaiden*
Kill themselves.
Real
It varies. They may have attempted to reconstruct the human psychospace. They may have attempted to repair SCP-2000 using other anomalies to reset humanity without the influence of *It*. Ultimately, we will never know because, for better or for worse, Pietro succeeded in delivering SCP-055 to SCP-579, resulting in what is essentially the nipping of a branch of the world tree.
- [**SCP-2000 - Deus Ex Machina**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2000) (+2466) by *HammerMaiden* - [**SCP-055 - [unknown]**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-055) (+3994) by *CptBellman, qntm* - [**SCP-579 - [DATA EXPUNGED]**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-579) (+350) by *scroton, Sophia Light*
dance
This is kind of answered in SCP-5000’s spiritual successor SCP-7841-ZA, it really depends on if it’s meant to be a prequel (showing us the origins of “IT”) or a sequel (showing us what would’ve happened if Pietro hadn’t reset the timeline).
- [**SCP-5000 - Why?**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-5000) (+3394) by *Tanhony* - [**SCP-7841-ZA - V is for Violence**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-7841) (+165) by *Tanhony*
Wow…that tale is amazing! I wonder what got Bayel to realize there was value in the SCP he had rather than to dismiss it or do the same things the others were doing? Considering he presumably also lacked fear or empathy, that’s really striking that he still managed to put the pieces together. I mean, we have Bayel’s reasoning yet he’s reaching that conclusion without the ability to feel.
Unless Bayel singularly wrote & logged the SCP-7841-ZA entry into the database, Bayel's acting on some order by at least some part of the Foundation, as entailed in the SCP database entry.
[**SCP-7841-ZA - V is for Violence**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-7841) (+165) by *Tanhony*
I couldn’t really tell, to be honest. Though the fact that Bayel himself was on board enough with it to see it all the way through to the end when he could easily have dismissed it and rebelled, that tells me he had to have found it worthwhile himself, since he isn’t capable of empathy or compassion. (He wasn’t under threat by force either, since he kept going even when no one could see or hold him accountable for his actions.) I actually came up with a possible theory after I turned in last night. What happened in 5000 removed those traits from humans but it presumably didn’t remove them from animals, to include other great apes. I wonder if Bayel realized by observing animals (before human interference became too toxic to see their natural behaviors anymore) that there was something they had that was missing in humanity? Hell, even brain scans would probably show things that respond in animals that don’t in humans in that world. If he realized animals were able to better stay in equilibrium with each other than humans, then a human with an “animalistic” psychology (which should be taken as a compliment in the way “human” would be in any other universe) could indeed be someone he’d view as having greater staying power. It still begs the question of why, since Bayel won’t be around to benefit from it himself, the survival of others still matters to him. It sounds like he himself isn’t quite sure TBH.
Probably a mass suicide among the higher-ups to make sure the job was fully complete
probably rebuild
They were fighting the creature from SCP-2998, which feeds on human suffering. By killing every human and therefore ending, in the long run, all human suffering, they planned to starve the creature to death, ending its effects permanently. Presumably, they planned to repopulate after this; it's proven by the hidden dialogue that it's possible to make a small number of humans immune to SCP-2998, such as the soldiers who don't feel pain, and so everybody who was left after the purge, and the end of human suffering, would rebuild and continue the human race.
Ruhar isn't IT
[**SCP-2998 - Anomalous Transmission, 2485 MHz**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2998) (+1399) by *Eskobar*
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We don't know. It's also worth noting, the only source we have that the Foundation *actually* wanted to wipe out humanity was... the Foundation. An organisation whose **entire purpose** was to lie to the world about the nature of the anomalous. Why would they tell the truth *now?*
Once they starve out and destroy the entity, they'd probably rebuild society. They could try rebuilding SCP-2000 since any humans they'll clone again won't be affected by the Entity.
[**SCP-2000 - Deus Ex Machina**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2000) (+2466) by *HammerMaiden*
Kill themselves once they were satisfied everyone else was gone. I believe the intent was to starve to death It, ending human suffering.
This is my interpretation of 5000 and ties in SCP-2718, SCP-682, and [the Dark Web](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/the-dark-web-dke79-o2rg5-4jlw6). Basically, the [disgusting](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/disgusting) tale but with a positive ending outlook. >!All human and human consciousness, being sources of Elan Vital Energy, are... food sources for the Entity that feeds off the EVE produced by human consciousness—consciousness experienced irrespective of whether they're physically living or dead. [This is how 2718 ties in.] They've been infected to become such, there is no such thing as Death anymore, simply eternal consciousness and pain. The Foundation personnel in 5000 have been memetically treated ("harden your hearts") to not experience that pain. [This is why Commander Morrison and Doctor Rhodes begin screaming in pain after Ross tells them about 2718, because they haven't been "treated".] While they don't *experience* it, they know *of* it and how it's inexplicably tied to the human experience and existence. So the Entity is the greatest threat to all of humanity and must be dealt with. However, simply curing/"treating" all living humans wouldn't do anything but alert the Entity that they knew of its existence since a not insignificant part of its food source would be cut off. The Foundation's portion getting lost wouldn't be noticeable, but all 8 billion physically living people *and the people they then continue to create* disappearing would be too large to ignore. Instead of an infinitely expanding source of food, the Entity's food source would become suspiciously finite. So, the Foundation was killing off all uncured/un"treated" humans (i.e. the rest of humanity) *as fast as possible* as there's no way to cure them *or* end the Entity as long as untreated living humans still exist. [As fast as possible so people experience the pain of consciousness after death for as little time as possible. Also, they had to be quick strategically because eventually the Enrity will notice as yhe food source would slowly stop expanding.] Unfortunately, SCP-2000 had been contaminated and any/all humans it created would also never experience True Death, so that's why Yellowstone had to be destroyed as well. Once all untreated humans have "died" aka died the pseudo death, the end of living flesh, then the Foundation can directly attack/kill/end/terminate the Entity head on and bring back True Death. This ends the unimaginable agony of countless human consciousnesses.!< But then, in 5000, there's *one man* who escaped and thus >!doomed all of humanity that had lived and will ever live to Unimaginable, Unending eternal Pain!< and *that's* the true horror.
- [**SCP-2718 - What Happens After**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2718) (+1785) by *Michael Atreus* - [**SCP-682 - Hard-to-Destroy Reptile**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-682) (+3682) by *Dr Gears, Epic Phail Spy*
They didn't think that part through, they only thought about the wacky SCPs they would use, and not what they would do ounce they actually complete their objective