Iām glad itās not just me! I am so overwhelmed managing supplements, my daily meds plus regular vitamins. I spend my day figuring out which to take on an empty stomach, two hours after meals, etc. I have hashimotoās along with my methane sibo.
I am currently taking neomycin and rifaximin along with herbal supplements prescribed by my func med provider.
I donāt know if I will go through this againā¦I have an actual spreadsheet of what meds to take and when.
I am leaning towards working on my motility and moving on with my life.
The worst part about taking so many supplements is when one of them causes some bad side effects, and you have to stop all of them to find out which one it is š
I already failed a round of rifax+metro, so now Iām overdosing on herbs. Iām taking twice as much as the recommendations say, yet the bacteria (and I) still survive
Do you ever think itās the biofilm thatās why Xifaxin isnāt working? Probably NAC and prokinectic can help? I havenāt tried NAC yet until I get another imaging performed soon
I was in the same position as you the past few years. Trying all different supplements without any help. Doing an animal based diet with a little bit of fermented veggies, non starchy low FODMAP fruit, and raw kefir fixed my gut.
I gave up all vegetables, grains, nuts, seeds, legumes, etc. and I am not looking back. After years of trying WFPB diets Iām finally healed from my gut issues.
It's 90% carnivore but the other 10% are super important to actually fixing gut dysbiosis. Fermented veggies everyday, raw kefir everyday, some low FODMAP fruit everyday. If it's not animal foods prepared by myself at home and some of the items listed above I don't eat it. Starch and high FODMAP fruits and vegetables and processed foods will prevent you from healing.
It's a really satiating diet so I don't feel restricted at all. There's other positives that go beyond gut health that come from this way of eating but not worrying about gut issues has been incredible.
Huh? As far as Iām concerned Iām cured. Anyway, gut takes a long time to heal and this is early days. After a few years Iāll have enough resiliency to eat other foods but I have absolutely no desire whatsoever at this point in time.
Iād give it at least 3 months. You will see significant improvements earlier but it takes a long time for the right bacteria to colonize your gut. Full healing is likely 2 years.
I started seeing significant improvements as soon as I introduced raw kefir. Itās a probiotic powerhouse.
That is helpful, thanks! I canāt eat dairy kefir unfortunately, but am on my 3 week of SBI Protect. Unsure of whether adding probiotics would help so am probably going to wait on that
Seems like youāve spend a lot of money. Could you work with a neuropath or someone who could guide you through their experience on sibo maybe? So you wonāt harm yourself by using too much products.
Also I recommend and currently using adp oregano because it doesnāt burn you stomach.
The swanson one has the most allicin per pill (12mg) that I have seen so far. If it did not not then allimed is probably not going to work either as it has far less allicin per cap
Just fancy terminology just like how they deceive people (allimed and allicinmax) to thinking the pill contains 100% allicin in the 450mg when it is only like less than 1% allicin
I [know](https://www.reddit.com/r/SIBO/s/glidqLs4xS) about the smaller content. I just, you know, assumed everyone is using it for a good reason. So you think the āstabilisedā part is bullsh!t?
Yes people still use and buy it because most people dont know about the tiny allicin content, the only people that would know are those that have read threads here on reddit or researched further. The only real way to 'stabilise' allicin (which just means that it does not degrade too fast in the stomach) is to enteric coat the capsule/pill which allimed does not
I think some supplements can be replaced with food.
Make your own garlic infused olive oil (and maybe add some fc cidal herbs as well) and keep the alimed away.
Add black cumin seed oil to your diet or add black cumin seed to meat before you fry it. In some supermarkets you can even find organic oils.
Cook with oregano, ginger, turmeric and black pepper.
A high meat mediterranean diet goes well with those spices and oils.
Drink green tea for polyphenols.
If there is enough time make some yogurt from the probiotics. There are posts on reddit on how to make good L Reuteri yogurt.
You do not manage to take all of these supplements regularly anyways so including them into a diet and especially eating them when one feels like it (when one is hungry for them) maybe helps to get more into a sibo reducing lifestyle in which you listen to your gut feeling instead of just swallowing pills while following your brain (you can only make so many active decisions a day, so the best is to get into a habit).
Some people saw improvement right after taking it (not me unfortunately). It contains IgG which should help rebuild your intestinal lining, as far as I know itās for healing, not killing.
I have, as I said, nothing. Keep taking it and hoping itāll work one day.
Just try it. Some people here overexagerate things and then scare people into trying things out themselves. Give it a go, if it doesnāt do well with you, discontinue it.
Lol I have a similar collection of random vitamins and supplements none of which have ever helped me. I may toss them all eventually.
Same so far š only thing a few of them (looking at you NAC and Ginger root extract) burned my stomach which lasted for 2 weeks š
As far as my knowledge goes, NAC can be contraindicated if leaky gut is present. Just something to be mindful of.
Iām glad itās not just me! I am so overwhelmed managing supplements, my daily meds plus regular vitamins. I spend my day figuring out which to take on an empty stomach, two hours after meals, etc. I have hashimotoās along with my methane sibo. I am currently taking neomycin and rifaximin along with herbal supplements prescribed by my func med provider. I donāt know if I will go through this againā¦I have an actual spreadsheet of what meds to take and when. I am leaning towards working on my motility and moving on with my life.
The worst part about taking so many supplements is when one of them causes some bad side effects, and you have to stop all of them to find out which one it is š I already failed a round of rifax+metro, so now Iām overdosing on herbs. Iām taking twice as much as the recommendations say, yet the bacteria (and I) still survive
Do you ever think itās the biofilm thatās why Xifaxin isnāt working? Probably NAC and prokinectic can help? I havenāt tried NAC yet until I get another imaging performed soon
NAC only burned my stomach after a month of usage
I was in the same position as you the past few years. Trying all different supplements without any help. Doing an animal based diet with a little bit of fermented veggies, non starchy low FODMAP fruit, and raw kefir fixed my gut. I gave up all vegetables, grains, nuts, seeds, legumes, etc. and I am not looking back. After years of trying WFPB diets Iām finally healed from my gut issues.
How? By eating carnivore?
It's 90% carnivore but the other 10% are super important to actually fixing gut dysbiosis. Fermented veggies everyday, raw kefir everyday, some low FODMAP fruit everyday. If it's not animal foods prepared by myself at home and some of the items listed above I don't eat it. Starch and high FODMAP fruits and vegetables and processed foods will prevent you from healing. It's a really satiating diet so I don't feel restricted at all. There's other positives that go beyond gut health that come from this way of eating but not worrying about gut issues has been incredible.
So ur not cured, just managing
Huh? As far as Iām concerned Iām cured. Anyway, gut takes a long time to heal and this is early days. After a few years Iāll have enough resiliency to eat other foods but I have absolutely no desire whatsoever at this point in time.
So you had a negative LBT?
I have no symptoms. Thatās all the test I need. I havenāt touched my Aire 2 in months. I wish you all the best in your health journey. Good luck.
How long did it take you to see results from the diet?
Iād give it at least 3 months. You will see significant improvements earlier but it takes a long time for the right bacteria to colonize your gut. Full healing is likely 2 years. I started seeing significant improvements as soon as I introduced raw kefir. Itās a probiotic powerhouse.
That is helpful, thanks! I canāt eat dairy kefir unfortunately, but am on my 3 week of SBI Protect. Unsure of whether adding probiotics would help so am probably going to wait on that
What is raw kefir? As opposed to milk or water kefir?
Swap out your garlic for kyolic garlic. I use Wakunaga brand, and feel like it actually made a dent in my symptoms.
I am supplementing my way into debt, unable to work. Have mercy. May you find health.
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Saw. Only thing it did for me is burn my stomach
how many of each did you take, and how many times a day?
Follow the instructions on your supplement. Every pill is different.
Did you test again?
What brand are you using?
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How often do you take this?
Seems like youāve spend a lot of money. Could you work with a neuropath or someone who could guide you through their experience on sibo maybe? So you wonāt harm yourself by using too much products. Also I recommend and currently using adp oregano because it doesnāt burn you stomach.
Allimed is literally a scam. Look at recent threads here on it
This is heartbreaking. Is there one you take instead?
Look on iherb, usually they are called garlic extract a lot of the times, I know swanson does allicin
I tried swanson garlic extract and it didnāt help, so out of desparation, I bought Allimed
The swanson one has the most allicin per pill (12mg) that I have seen so far. If it did not not then allimed is probably not going to work either as it has far less allicin per cap
I know, I made a post about it a while ago, but the thing is allicin is *stabilised* and I thought maybe thatās important? Idk
Just fancy terminology just like how they deceive people (allimed and allicinmax) to thinking the pill contains 100% allicin in the 450mg when it is only like less than 1% allicin
I [know](https://www.reddit.com/r/SIBO/s/glidqLs4xS) about the smaller content. I just, you know, assumed everyone is using it for a good reason. So you think the āstabilisedā part is bullsh!t?
Yes people still use and buy it because most people dont know about the tiny allicin content, the only people that would know are those that have read threads here on reddit or researched further. The only real way to 'stabilise' allicin (which just means that it does not degrade too fast in the stomach) is to enteric coat the capsule/pill which allimed does not
One has to no if you have methane or hydrogen Sibo. Which one do you have?
the pain !!! lol
I think some supplements can be replaced with food. Make your own garlic infused olive oil (and maybe add some fc cidal herbs as well) and keep the alimed away. Add black cumin seed oil to your diet or add black cumin seed to meat before you fry it. In some supermarkets you can even find organic oils. Cook with oregano, ginger, turmeric and black pepper. A high meat mediterranean diet goes well with those spices and oils. Drink green tea for polyphenols. If there is enough time make some yogurt from the probiotics. There are posts on reddit on how to make good L Reuteri yogurt. You do not manage to take all of these supplements regularly anyways so including them into a diet and especially eating them when one feels like it (when one is hungry for them) maybe helps to get more into a sibo reducing lifestyle in which you listen to your gut feeling instead of just swallowing pills while following your brain (you can only make so many active decisions a day, so the best is to get into a habit).
Any insight regarding bovine colostrum supplement for sibo?
Some people saw improvement right after taking it (not me unfortunately). It contains IgG which should help rebuild your intestinal lining, as far as I know itās for healing, not killing.
Have you tried taking the bovine colostrum? I have heard some positive things about it but scared to try as it's milk/dairy.
I have, as I said, nothing. Keep taking it and hoping itāll work one day. Just try it. Some people here overexagerate things and then scare people into trying things out themselves. Give it a go, if it doesnāt do well with you, discontinue it.
Thank you so much.
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