It was fun before the gameplay turned into 40 minutes of wordless sparring to stat grind, and the community got obsessed with screaming about trans folk.
That was the time to dip.
Ratwood is an ERP downstream server of blackwood, which managed to somehow get an equality as bad server staff as Blackstone from what I've heard. Also one of their headmins is Xyle (also known as commander weh) the former host of skyrat (another ERP server) is pretty well known for abusing his staff or anyone underneath him.
Coomer communities tend to attract less than desirable people, and because no one enjoys their company, these communities can become very tight-knit.
Especially when anything involving things related to children enter the mix.
The teenager sprite drama was caused by trolls and bug hunters who abused a bug to try and jail bait people.
The sprites were removed as per agreement between blackstone and ratwood, later Ratwood changed the ternager sprites to be 1 pixel shorter than the adult sprites and named them 'young adult'.
Also the reason and purpose of these is to act as a 'I am new and or learning' as a way to indicate others that they are learning about something and will likely need help.
Edit: They kept the teenager sprites to think of a way to use the functionality of a 'im learning [...]' indicator before changing it to what it is now.
Hey there, former Skyrat staff here.
Xyel "quit" Skyrat, but shadowed the head admins for some time.
So he's probably not gone, just hiding to make it seem like he's doing the right thing.
Medieval server that had a big pop boom a while back. Pretty fun, but it gets boring quickly. They also had a few drama, the relevant one here being about ratwood, an ERP server on the same codebase that had pedo content (including child sprites, though they misled by showing the ones of a couple races where the spriting for it wasnt done so it was just a few pixels shorter)
They are 1 pixel shorter, and are used as a 'Hello! I am learning!' Indicator for others that they dont understand the role they have or what they have to do.
By a couple of pixels, in a game where characters are already maybe 50 pixels tall, yes. I guess that's literally pedophilia though, right? Sick fucks :)
Oh, yeah. Obviously, there are people who are going to do that, and they should catch permas, but there's a number of people who unironically believe *just having that MAKES it a 'server for pedophiles' and them 'child sprites'.* That's fucking psychotic to me
Yeah, but with SS13 ERP’s reputation for being poorly moderated it can definitely be a server that attracts them and become infected with that plague. But definitely not a server *for* them at this moment in time
The problem isnt alone that you can play as a child on am erp server. Its only a problem because of some other factors. Prominently being that they share blackstones rule aproach of not many ingame rules. And, you know, rape. Rape with no rules about it.
Allowing it already that your community members can force others into erp, with them only having the option of closing the game to stop it, is already incredibly bad.
That is why the partnership between ratwood and blackstone ended. Because, fun fact, the servers wherent against each other first, they had a deal about it. So that ratwood can easily make a downstream of blackstone and even get support from blackstone. One of the agreed upok terms for the partnership was that ratwood, would keep the childroles out of the game. An agreement that ratwood broke. That is why blackstone staff was so pissed at ratwood. Because they litterally broke their deal.
In general ratwood had some fucked up things going on. Like keeping their codebase closed for a while. Wich was very fucking illegal. Being that its a tg code base. Rougetown was as well, the even tried to hide it apperently. The way the bloody code looks supports that story as well. Its a mess.
Why did you put sprites in qoutations? They are sprites. Almost every visual on every ss13 server is. Expect some fancy stuff, like the explosion effect on cm. Thats straigth up computer graphip wizzardry.
I love dark fantasy so I decided to try out rat wood keep. They had me prove I was 18+ with my ID. Shit was harder to get into than any other server I’ve played on. I really doubt they’re not taking age verification seriously but I could be wrong.
well ladies and gentlemen, in a surprise upset it appears that the blackstone team was able to keep their composure and end it all on their own terms before the skyrat team could completely destroy itself. it wasn't the ending we expected but it's the ending we deserve
chudtown stay losing
Nah, the pervious community manager did look into it. And the server pop wasnt jumping from blackstone to ratwood. Most blackstone players went to their previous servers. Ratwoods grotw was largy because of it being for one the new hot thing on the block. Same reason why blackstone had 200 pop for a while. And, you know, being a big erp server.
That blackstone lost its players had little to do with ratwood, it had lots of other reasons.
no one's pretending it isn't, but most people opinions on Blackstone is that its a hotbed for nazis that got boring for pop chasers and regular players so people left.
disliking it isn't virtue signaling if its just a shitty server
oh thank god, whenever i see people throw the phrase virtue signaling, its almost always someone trying to defend people's shitty actions and not someone make fun of shitty people
You'll always end up sounding silly if you try and read too much into what people are saying. Just take people's words as if they actually mean what they're saying until they specifically give you a reason not to.
Their virtual signals where literal agreements both servers had with each other back when they where partnert that where broken. There is a reason why blackstone staff is pissed at ratwood.
I’ve never understood erp server purpose. Like, you can’t tell if minor is playing or someone else. I’ve heard in this sub that you have to verify in discord, but what stops you from lying? Thats really fucked up, why game that supposed to give you fun weekend with friends at good shift turned in the porn game? I bet nobody do their occupation duty and only erp on this kind of servers. And yeah, bet gonna be downvoted by erp players
Hey there. I was playing on ratwood keep cuz I really like dark fantasy. I’m not a fan of ERP. Here’s my insight. 1) I had to use an ID to prove I was 18+ to even join the discord let alone be whitelisted for the server. Also I had to fill out an application showing I could Roleplay. 2) On the rounds I’ve played on almost everyone I met is just doing their job. Or RP’ing. I only ran into one couple ERP’ing so far in 3 rounds over the week.
My experience may be unique but that’s just my 2 cents. Cheers!
Thats the thing, folks kept imagining that when a server is ERP friendly and 18+, you'd be slipping on cum and squeezing your way through a maze of bodies engaging in orgy when in reality, its just an option. Most players just do normal roleplay.
the whole perception about any 18+ server being like that is cause of SPLURT, which... you literally only have to join the discord to get whitelisted, there's no real app, and pretty much IS exactly like that.
I remember joining a couple times out of curiosity and immediately running into people doing whole ass ERP paragraphs out in the open. The bar was a nightmare 💀💀💀
Eh I used to not get it at all and have really overexaggerated views, so I assume you actually want to know what’s true and what isn’t.
Okay so the verification is a whole process with showing your ID and writing down a phrase they said on a paper slip by it and you get like 15 mins to do it on the server I play, so that’s the proof. And also whenever an admin says some suspicious shit a hatemob forms against them cause believe it or not people fucking hate pedos here too.
Now as for your question on turning it into a porn game, see thing is when you think server where everyone is walking with their tits out you’re thinking SPLURT. Those people are disliked on other erp servers because this is how the average erp server round looks from my perspective:
I go in on my job, either get antag and start prepping for objs or some funny idea like saw traps, if I don’t? Well I can talk with people in character, I hang out, learn about their lore and share some nice touching moments time to time since RP levels are medium-high. Like that one time my character was desperately trying to save his friend from a contractor. Sometimes we bully security for being nerds, sometimes we fight in the halls as sparring. And also I won’t get banned for saying someone’s dick is small as an insult. Sex jokes can be funny.
Now, yes, ERP is a thing but 90% of the time you don’t see it. It’s a thing people go do in a dorms room or just in a private place, from an outside perspective it’s literally two ssd people. People who ERP on the job get berated in OOC, especially head roles. So it isn’t really making it a porn game as much as from time to time having a nice time.
It’s not an uwu owo everyone is horny hellscape in the end, rather MRP ss13 where some people just go do their thing, hit on eachother, and then the immovable rod strikes dorms and deadchat goes wild with applause for their deaths.
People use thing we make in way not like. We angry. We stop making thing so people not use in way we no like. No care if not most people use thing in way we no like. We do to spite small group.
The real reason is that they are butthurt that their playerbase plummited.
They fail to see that a huge reason for that is because of the completely ridiculous display of toxic behavior and transphobia openly spammed in their discord like it was the most casual thing in the world.
If people don't know SS13 in general has an extremely high rate of trans players and also other players who don't take kindly to biggots.
So in their desperation they went on some insane skyzo rant about ratwood being full of pedophile which is complete BS and then shut down when they realized people weren't coming back.
The entire thing is completely pathetic.
Its not. But Ratwood is and it's a fork of blackstone.
But yeah in reality they are just unable to cope. They have been fully skyzoposting about "evidence" of ratwood having pedophilia when it's all horseshit.
The supposed "children" are young adult sprites that literally are like two pixel shorter you can hardly tell. And they are 18+ characters too.
Its all a nothinburger by screaming jealous people that are mad their player base vanished in thin air and did everything they could to smear the server but no one gave a shit cause it was all made up
Not sure in which imaginary land you live in but I literally have access to the code and its not in it, let alone me playing it.
Blackstone is dead, you can all stop this pathetic smear campaign
Entirely out of curiosity, why not post the code then? Seems like, if it doesn't have questionable stuff, this would be a perfect opportunity to go open source, reinvigorate the community, and keep the project alive, no?
Or does it actually contain very questionable things, and you know that, and so the code will not get posted?
i looked in the sprites, dont think yall are beating the allegations
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256575997067788369/1256576593627971594/image.png?ex=668145a5&is=667ff425&hm=3831cc696940cc352835dbded08e4f41959f942d70d7bbca8725701beadbd87b&
bit more than 2 pixels there ay
Player that did what? ERP?
The player who ERP'd an orphan character got permabanned? For pedophilia presumably?
How did he get permabanned for pedophilia if all the orphans are 18+? This one guy had the only underage orphan character on the entire server?
Probably because of morons who shitpost on Reddit about "those" "18 year old" "orphan" "characters" "..." fear-mongering and pearl-clutching about young adults.
The guy who got banned for doing pedo shit in ERP only got banned because of people complaining on reddit.
Woah, that's a real own right there. Take you awhile to come up with that?
Are you illiterate? That's literally what someone was JUST doing, insinuating that someone playing 18 year old orphans is somehow a pedophile, and people like that get banned *straight up* because of lunatics on social media insinuating that it's somehow "literally pedophilia". I guess that much complexity is too much for your knee-jerk fuelled brain though, right?
Here, let me highlight the part you seem to've missed (it's directly above my comment! :) ) — "Player that did what? ERP? The player who ERP'd an orphan character got permabanned? For pedophilia presumably? How did he get permabanned for pedophilia if all the orphans are 18+? This one guy had the only underage orphan character on the entire server?"
Hmm! It's almost like a problem is being made out of nothing, and admins are caving to that fear-mongering! It's funny how something like a young adult role that has nothing to do with underage content suddenly becomes it just by painting it as such - and then suddenly it's "oooh, he got banned JUST for playing an ORPHAN? HM... BUT I THOUGHT THEY WERE 18?" I wonder how this could have fucking happened!
ok but there's a key problem with your thesis here, namely that the guy who got banned got banned by the same people who insist that all their orphans are actually 18, so evidently he was going too far with the age bit even by their standards
also it's kind of hard to say that a problem is being made out of nothing when people start raising questions related to pedophilia on 'teenage orphans in sexual situations', besides which the admins involved have repeatedly insisted 'nah this isn't a problem' so you can't say they're caving on fear-mongering
[to hammer in the above point an orphan is explicitly an underage person so ratwood is either lying or just stupid when they say "adult orphans"](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1056523086352089108/1256570182931972096/image.png?ex=66813fad&is=667fee2d&hm=d4101be8a61bd86bc970a3c53828bab0edec5ce21747a736c6c96750964311e0&)
also you're missing the original point that 'banning someone for pedophilia only because people online started to complain about it' is not the own you think it is
tldr you suck men
Saying you're going to shut down a game that's built off of open-source code literally anyone can download from github, by taking it off your own hosting, is like saying you're going to prevent everyone else from using the Sun by shading your own house.
No surprise. When you have bobjoga (a confirmed nonce) and the old CM host (of which there were SEVERAL allegations of defending this sort of stuff), and you put them in the same room, it's only a matter of time.
Now someone start up a fork that's not erp or neonazis. (I'm not in denial, I know the fork will reach a maximum population of about 20 players and die about two months after creation.)
Unfortunately the ERP servers get the most insnae pop numbers when compared to non-ERP servers. However, thankfully they burn out within months. (or in the case of Citadel a year and a half)
The way servers are becoming this giant white list doctrine with paragraphs needed to spout Rp skill and giving away sensitive information to strangers has and will always be the death of this game.
Never forget that one cunt who tried to wallpaper over the nazis on this server and got owned collectively by this subreddit he deleted his account u/hoi4newb lmao
Just some shitters. Dont worry about it. Most ss13 players are to dumb to ddos anyone.
Altough, i did get ddosd once for being a chill wizzard. So i cant really say a hard no to it being every player.
The sad thing is, Ratwood isn't a direct downstream and it's already garnered enough population now to have a stable development base of its own. Unless they suffer a schism again like what happened with Weh's other server, they'll continue to be propped up for a long time.
thank god i had been delaying visiting this server before i found out its filled with nazis and, what’s personally important to me, transphobic
weird for people who are seemingly really trying to fight pedophilia to use slurs as often as people say they do
I swear 90% of people that go on and on about pedophilia don’t give two shits about children. It’s just an easy way to justify themselves as heroes and brand groups they don’t like as inexcusably evil.
i dont quite follow u
i dont like offensive, unsafe spaces. i prefer accepting snd welcoming communities. Nothing about “whites” or smth. I’ve discovered that this community was bad and thus expressed my experience with it. Im not sure why u r stressing that rp communities consist of, surprise surprise, diverse people. But yeah, anything but yourself is “deviant” smh
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Matter of time. The only thing off here is the staff team's alleged moral superiority over Ratwood's because they won't allow minors into their server but they sure as hell will allow nazis, homophobics, transphobics, racists... Sick of these people acting like they're any different from one another. Ratwood is not only a fork of Blackstone's code but also of it's community. Old staff and old players from Blackstone now run Ratwood. They can't claim this high-horse they're own by being "slightly less deranged than the most deranged of them all".
Their announcements intended to the outside like Reddit and Twitter and cross-server discord announcements are all direct and progressive and casual-like, but when you enter their server and see the announcements intended to stay in, it's all schizoid shit posting bordering on YouTube PooP incel mode. Bunch of fucking weirdos. Then they act like they're the fucking FBI for "gathering evidence against each other" like they didn't take every single slur and cub porn post from the same collective group chat. It's more like they're two children pointing at each other and saying "He said poop!", "Well, he said stupid!", "Well yeah, but he said butthole!". What has this game turned into, man.
It was fun before the gameplay turned into 40 minutes of wordless sparring to stat grind, and the community got obsessed with screaming about trans folk. That was the time to dip.
They probably never even met one of us either
What even is Blackstone?
Medieval Rp of SS13. Had lots of “ beef” with ratwood.
Ratwood? Is ratwood the ERP setting they are talking about?
Ratwood is an ERP downstream server of blackwood, which managed to somehow get an equality as bad server staff as Blackstone from what I've heard. Also one of their headmins is Xyle (also known as commander weh) the former host of skyrat (another ERP server) is pretty well known for abusing his staff or anyone underneath him.
How the fuck did this dude get headadmin of another very popular ERP server? What the fuck is going on?
Coomer communities tend to attract less than desirable people, and because no one enjoys their company, these communities can become very tight-knit. Especially when anything involving things related to children enter the mix.
The teenager sprite drama was caused by trolls and bug hunters who abused a bug to try and jail bait people. The sprites were removed as per agreement between blackstone and ratwood, later Ratwood changed the ternager sprites to be 1 pixel shorter than the adult sprites and named them 'young adult'. Also the reason and purpose of these is to act as a 'I am new and or learning' as a way to indicate others that they are learning about something and will likely need help. Edit: They kept the teenager sprites to think of a way to use the functionality of a 'im learning [...]' indicator before changing it to what it is now.
The real smart thing is pick young adult for smaller hitboxes.
Weh quit like 2-3 days ago, rest of staff still sucks though. Don't know about the owner but either they don't care or are too hands off to notice.
Hey there, former Skyrat staff here. Xyel "quit" Skyrat, but shadowed the head admins for some time. So he's probably not gone, just hiding to make it seem like he's doing the right thing.
What ever happened to John Silver?
I wish that was the case. They were one of the better staff on Ratwood, if not the best.
He's quit skyrat probably a three-digit amount of times whenever he's frustrated when people call him out.
Medieval server that had a big pop boom a while back. Pretty fun, but it gets boring quickly. They also had a few drama, the relevant one here being about ratwood, an ERP server on the same codebase that had pedo content (including child sprites, though they misled by showing the ones of a couple races where the spriting for it wasnt done so it was just a few pixels shorter)
"child" "sprites" which they renamed in all instances to young adult, which had all references to being children removed\* FTFY
Are they noticeably smaller than their adult counterparts?
They are 1 pixel shorter, and are used as a 'Hello! I am learning!' Indicator for others that they dont understand the role they have or what they have to do.
By a couple of pixels, in a game where characters are already maybe 50 pixels tall, yes. I guess that's literally pedophilia though, right? Sick fucks :)
Dependent on how people use it at that point I guess. Not necessarily pedophilia in implementation, but I can see how it can be used as such by others
Oh, yeah. Obviously, there are people who are going to do that, and they should catch permas, but there's a number of people who unironically believe *just having that MAKES it a 'server for pedophiles' and them 'child sprites'.* That's fucking psychotic to me
Yeah, but with SS13 ERP’s reputation for being poorly moderated it can definitely be a server that attracts them and become infected with that plague. But definitely not a server *for* them at this moment in time
The problem isnt alone that you can play as a child on am erp server. Its only a problem because of some other factors. Prominently being that they share blackstones rule aproach of not many ingame rules. And, you know, rape. Rape with no rules about it. Allowing it already that your community members can force others into erp, with them only having the option of closing the game to stop it, is already incredibly bad. That is why the partnership between ratwood and blackstone ended. Because, fun fact, the servers wherent against each other first, they had a deal about it. So that ratwood can easily make a downstream of blackstone and even get support from blackstone. One of the agreed upok terms for the partnership was that ratwood, would keep the childroles out of the game. An agreement that ratwood broke. That is why blackstone staff was so pissed at ratwood. Because they litterally broke their deal. In general ratwood had some fucked up things going on. Like keeping their codebase closed for a while. Wich was very fucking illegal. Being that its a tg code base. Rougetown was as well, the even tried to hide it apperently. The way the bloody code looks supports that story as well. Its a mess.
Ratwood wasn't ever closed source. You're thinking of StoneKeep. Furthermore, licenses are largely a civil matter not a legal matter anyway.
No it was Ratwood. I know that very well. There was its own large drama thing because of it.
Why did you put sprites in qoutations? They are sprites. Almost every visual on every ss13 server is. Expect some fancy stuff, like the explosion effect on cm. Thats straigth up computer graphip wizzardry.
I love dark fantasy so I decided to try out rat wood keep. They had me prove I was 18+ with my ID. Shit was harder to get into than any other server I’ve played on. I really doubt they’re not taking age verification seriously but I could be wrong.
To be honest, with blsckwood being infested with nazis, they throw slurs at everyone for the most unhinged reasons.
On the discord it says you can verify by giving them your ID or be vouched in by another member, no id required
The ID thing is new, they used to just allow you to write a 2 prompt app.
well ladies and gentlemen, in a surprise upset it appears that the blackstone team was able to keep their composure and end it all on their own terms before the skyrat team could completely destroy itself. it wasn't the ending we expected but it's the ending we deserve chudtown stay losing
I thought Skyrat had already destroyed itself.
the people that run ratwood are the people that ran skyrat
LOL
Really went out on a virtue signal, eh?
Yeah the virtue of not being a pedo lol
cope
The only cope here is trying to pretend this is anything other than being mad about the other server stealing all the pop
Nah, the pervious community manager did look into it. And the server pop wasnt jumping from blackstone to ratwood. Most blackstone players went to their previous servers. Ratwoods grotw was largy because of it being for one the new hot thing on the block. Same reason why blackstone had 200 pop for a while. And, you know, being a big erp server. That blackstone lost its players had little to do with ratwood, it had lots of other reasons.
no one's pretending it isn't, but most people opinions on Blackstone is that its a hotbed for nazis that got boring for pop chasers and regular players so people left. disliking it isn't virtue signaling if its just a shitty server
You seem to misunderstand. My point was that they(Blackstone) were virtue signaling as an excuse for their demise. Not that the community was.
oh thank god, whenever i see people throw the phrase virtue signaling, its almost always someone trying to defend people's shitty actions and not someone make fun of shitty people
You'll always end up sounding silly if you try and read too much into what people are saying. Just take people's words as if they actually mean what they're saying until they specifically give you a reason not to.
Their virtual signals where literal agreements both servers had with each other back when they where partnert that where broken. There is a reason why blackstone staff is pissed at ratwood.
I’ve never understood erp server purpose. Like, you can’t tell if minor is playing or someone else. I’ve heard in this sub that you have to verify in discord, but what stops you from lying? Thats really fucked up, why game that supposed to give you fun weekend with friends at good shift turned in the porn game? I bet nobody do their occupation duty and only erp on this kind of servers. And yeah, bet gonna be downvoted by erp players
Hey there. I was playing on ratwood keep cuz I really like dark fantasy. I’m not a fan of ERP. Here’s my insight. 1) I had to use an ID to prove I was 18+ to even join the discord let alone be whitelisted for the server. Also I had to fill out an application showing I could Roleplay. 2) On the rounds I’ve played on almost everyone I met is just doing their job. Or RP’ing. I only ran into one couple ERP’ing so far in 3 rounds over the week. My experience may be unique but that’s just my 2 cents. Cheers!
Thats the thing, folks kept imagining that when a server is ERP friendly and 18+, you'd be slipping on cum and squeezing your way through a maze of bodies engaging in orgy when in reality, its just an option. Most players just do normal roleplay.
the whole perception about any 18+ server being like that is cause of SPLURT, which... you literally only have to join the discord to get whitelisted, there's no real app, and pretty much IS exactly like that. I remember joining a couple times out of curiosity and immediately running into people doing whole ass ERP paragraphs out in the open. The bar was a nightmare 💀💀💀
Eh I used to not get it at all and have really overexaggerated views, so I assume you actually want to know what’s true and what isn’t. Okay so the verification is a whole process with showing your ID and writing down a phrase they said on a paper slip by it and you get like 15 mins to do it on the server I play, so that’s the proof. And also whenever an admin says some suspicious shit a hatemob forms against them cause believe it or not people fucking hate pedos here too. Now as for your question on turning it into a porn game, see thing is when you think server where everyone is walking with their tits out you’re thinking SPLURT. Those people are disliked on other erp servers because this is how the average erp server round looks from my perspective: I go in on my job, either get antag and start prepping for objs or some funny idea like saw traps, if I don’t? Well I can talk with people in character, I hang out, learn about their lore and share some nice touching moments time to time since RP levels are medium-high. Like that one time my character was desperately trying to save his friend from a contractor. Sometimes we bully security for being nerds, sometimes we fight in the halls as sparring. And also I won’t get banned for saying someone’s dick is small as an insult. Sex jokes can be funny. Now, yes, ERP is a thing but 90% of the time you don’t see it. It’s a thing people go do in a dorms room or just in a private place, from an outside perspective it’s literally two ssd people. People who ERP on the job get berated in OOC, especially head roles. So it isn’t really making it a porn game as much as from time to time having a nice time. It’s not an uwu owo everyone is horny hellscape in the end, rather MRP ss13 where some people just go do their thing, hit on eachother, and then the immovable rod strikes dorms and deadchat goes wild with applause for their deaths.
Alright you changed my mind, as i said i’ve never played this kind of servers so i may get something wrong
Hey no worries, we’re all spessmen in the end! We’re connected by love for caving in heads with a toolbox, one big family like that
I agree with you.
I love your writing accent.
i didn't think about it until i read this comment and now i can only read it in the voice of ilya bryzgalov
So people can get my accent from the screen now…
Yes
Very easy why erp servers exsist. Sex sells.
People use thing we make in way not like. We angry. We stop making thing so people not use in way we no like. No care if not most people use thing in way we no like. We do to spite small group.
The real reason is that they are butthurt that their playerbase plummited. They fail to see that a huge reason for that is because of the completely ridiculous display of toxic behavior and transphobia openly spammed in their discord like it was the most casual thing in the world. If people don't know SS13 in general has an extremely high rate of trans players and also other players who don't take kindly to biggots. So in their desperation they went on some insane skyzo rant about ratwood being full of pedophile which is complete BS and then shut down when they realized people weren't coming back. The entire thing is completely pathetic.
I thought Blackstone was supposed to be no ERP?
Its not. But Ratwood is and it's a fork of blackstone. But yeah in reality they are just unable to cope. They have been fully skyzoposting about "evidence" of ratwood having pedophilia when it's all horseshit. The supposed "children" are young adult sprites that literally are like two pixel shorter you can hardly tell. And they are 18+ characters too. Its all a nothinburger by screaming jealous people that are mad their player base vanished in thin air and did everything they could to smear the server but no one gave a shit cause it was all made up
The 2 pixels shorter thing is only true for some species, others have full blown child sprites
Post proof, because you're literally making shit up.
No, that's simply not true.
Yes, it simply is true.
Not sure in which imaginary land you live in but I literally have access to the code and its not in it, let alone me playing it. Blackstone is dead, you can all stop this pathetic smear campaign
Entirely out of curiosity, why not post the code then? Seems like, if it doesn't have questionable stuff, this would be a perfect opportunity to go open source, reinvigorate the community, and keep the project alive, no? Or does it actually contain very questionable things, and you know that, and so the code will not get posted?
It's already open source and has been this whole time. Rotwood-Vale on github, IIRC
Yep exactly.
i looked in the sprites, dont think yall are beating the allegations https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256575997067788369/1256576593627971594/image.png?ex=668145a5&is=667ff425&hm=3831cc696940cc352835dbded08e4f41959f942d70d7bbca8725701beadbd87b& bit more than 2 pixels there ay
Its literally open source and has been since day 1
Was Blackstone not the closed source one? Or was that some other gimmick codebase that recently had huge drama then
Another. It was called roguetown or something.
The 18 year old 'orphan' characters....
The player that did that is permabanned.
Player that did what? ERP? The player who ERP'd an orphan character got permabanned? For pedophilia presumably? How did he get permabanned for pedophilia if all the orphans are 18+? This one guy had the only underage orphan character on the entire server?
The person that implied that their character was underage got banned. Because there is no underage role in the game. Simple as that.
Probably because of morons who shitpost on Reddit about "those" "18 year old" "orphan" "characters" "..." fear-mongering and pearl-clutching about young adults.
The guy who got banned for doing pedo shit in ERP only got banned because of people complaining on reddit. Woah, that's a real own right there. Take you awhile to come up with that?
Are you illiterate? That's literally what someone was JUST doing, insinuating that someone playing 18 year old orphans is somehow a pedophile, and people like that get banned *straight up* because of lunatics on social media insinuating that it's somehow "literally pedophilia". I guess that much complexity is too much for your knee-jerk fuelled brain though, right? Here, let me highlight the part you seem to've missed (it's directly above my comment! :) ) — "Player that did what? ERP? The player who ERP'd an orphan character got permabanned? For pedophilia presumably? How did he get permabanned for pedophilia if all the orphans are 18+? This one guy had the only underage orphan character on the entire server?" Hmm! It's almost like a problem is being made out of nothing, and admins are caving to that fear-mongering! It's funny how something like a young adult role that has nothing to do with underage content suddenly becomes it just by painting it as such - and then suddenly it's "oooh, he got banned JUST for playing an ORPHAN? HM... BUT I THOUGHT THEY WERE 18?" I wonder how this could have fucking happened!
ok but there's a key problem with your thesis here, namely that the guy who got banned got banned by the same people who insist that all their orphans are actually 18, so evidently he was going too far with the age bit even by their standards also it's kind of hard to say that a problem is being made out of nothing when people start raising questions related to pedophilia on 'teenage orphans in sexual situations', besides which the admins involved have repeatedly insisted 'nah this isn't a problem' so you can't say they're caving on fear-mongering [to hammer in the above point an orphan is explicitly an underage person so ratwood is either lying or just stupid when they say "adult orphans"](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1056523086352089108/1256570182931972096/image.png?ex=66813fad&is=667fee2d&hm=d4101be8a61bd86bc970a3c53828bab0edec5ce21747a736c6c96750964311e0&) also you're missing the original point that 'banning someone for pedophilia only because people online started to complain about it' is not the own you think it is tldr you suck men
Can't you replicate that by just using the height setting or is that not a thing on the server?
Not a thing its why its a toggle see below
Bet ya the clown’s shoes that someone else will start the project back up and start the cycle all over again. Such is the life of SS13
Saying you're going to shut down a game that's built off of open-source code literally anyone can download from github, by taking it off your own hosting, is like saying you're going to prevent everyone else from using the Sun by shading your own house.
Yep!
Love how the excuse is "Will nobody think of the children?"
Rest in piss.
No surprise. When you have bobjoga (a confirmed nonce) and the old CM host (of which there were SEVERAL allegations of defending this sort of stuff), and you put them in the same room, it's only a matter of time.
wait are you talking about apophis? he's involved with it?
Can't be. There's no way he'd show his face again.
My mind went to Feweh, who cohosted CM at one point iirc
feweh was a schizo douchebag but i don't think he was a defender of that kind of stuff
Now someone start up a fork that's not erp or neonazis. (I'm not in denial, I know the fork will reach a maximum population of about 20 players and die about two months after creation.)
>not ERP There's your problem
Unfortunately the ERP servers get the most insnae pop numbers when compared to non-ERP servers. However, thankfully they burn out within months. (or in the case of Citadel a year and a half)
The way servers are becoming this giant white list doctrine with paragraphs needed to spout Rp skill and giving away sensitive information to strangers has and will always be the death of this game.
Pulled a "Darth vader killing Palpatine" it seems
Lol. They fall over tons of racism and transphobia and shit, but say “think of the children”?
Never forget that one cunt who tried to wallpaper over the nazis on this server and got owned collectively by this subreddit he deleted his account u/hoi4newb lmao
I fucking predicted it lmfao. Gave it 3 months to last at best in april
Also to note the same issues, except for the constant rape and sodomy, were highly present in rogue town
Welp. Fun while lasted.
I think nobody younger than ss13 should play it.
18? you mean?
Another one bites the dust.
I followed Blackstone's entire history through Reddit posts. Huh.
Good riddance chud losers
Now we gotta get rid of Ratwood
Some Mfs in the blackstone discord said they were gonna ddos ratwood
ddosing is both illegal and highly ineffective due to the high costs of running a ddos attack.
its' actually pretty effective, and requires some effort to counter
Just some shitters. Dont worry about it. Most ss13 players are to dumb to ddos anyone. Altough, i did get ddosd once for being a chill wizzard. So i cant really say a hard no to it being every player.
The sad thing is, Ratwood isn't a direct downstream and it's already garnered enough population now to have a stable development base of its own. Unless they suffer a schism again like what happened with Weh's other server, they'll continue to be propped up for a long time.
thank god i had been delaying visiting this server before i found out its filled with nazis and, what’s personally important to me, transphobic weird for people who are seemingly really trying to fight pedophilia to use slurs as often as people say they do
I swear 90% of people that go on and on about pedophilia don’t give two shits about children. It’s just an easy way to justify themselves as heroes and brand groups they don’t like as inexcusably evil.
While you do you I wouldn’t compare edgy jokes to pedophilia
true mostly that’s just anons on the internet being weird as always smh
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i dont quite follow u i dont like offensive, unsafe spaces. i prefer accepting snd welcoming communities. Nothing about “whites” or smth. I’ve discovered that this community was bad and thus expressed my experience with it. Im not sure why u r stressing that rp communities consist of, surprise surprise, diverse people. But yeah, anything but yourself is “deviant” smh
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Matter of time. The only thing off here is the staff team's alleged moral superiority over Ratwood's because they won't allow minors into their server but they sure as hell will allow nazis, homophobics, transphobics, racists... Sick of these people acting like they're any different from one another. Ratwood is not only a fork of Blackstone's code but also of it's community. Old staff and old players from Blackstone now run Ratwood. They can't claim this high-horse they're own by being "slightly less deranged than the most deranged of them all". Their announcements intended to the outside like Reddit and Twitter and cross-server discord announcements are all direct and progressive and casual-like, but when you enter their server and see the announcements intended to stay in, it's all schizoid shit posting bordering on YouTube PooP incel mode. Bunch of fucking weirdos. Then they act like they're the fucking FBI for "gathering evidence against each other" like they didn't take every single slur and cub porn post from the same collective group chat. It's more like they're two children pointing at each other and saying "He said poop!", "Well, he said stupid!", "Well yeah, but he said butthole!". What has this game turned into, man.
**BLACKSTONE!!** # N O O O O O O O ! ! !
i probably deserve the downvotes lol ^(now i don't feel like living again)
i dont think you’l get downvoted, youre expressing your opinion and no one would beat you up for liking blackstone.
wow now i feel better ngl tysm
❤️🫂 nah, ill upvote >:3 (and pls, for your own safety, dont visit toxic communities in a shaky mood <3)
good job gamers, blackstone is gone. millions must migrate into stonekeep
pedostone takes the biggest L in the end.
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Leave it to a Russian to state publicly they want to be able to sext minors
They don't have Nazis and in there serves they are doing an investigation of the erp sveres