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Aloof_bidoof

"The car is already at eBay" ...


kdshubert

It seems like “perfect condition, no hidden defect” always=scam. I seem to see that a lot in these car scam posts.


hoehater1

There will always, always be a defect in a used car. People usually buy and sell their first "learner" car/cheap car they got from their parents


kdshubert

Right. And only scammers seem to use the word ‘defect’ to describe anything in a car sale.


hoehater1

Video don't work re upload


[deleted]

"There is no such thing as an accident history or any smoking in the interior." NO ONE talks like that. It's a foreign speaking person who doesn't know much English relying on a translator app. One red flag of many.


penny4urthoutz

Right it’s more like “ I ain’t hit anything in it although i did pop one of them parking lot pavers at walmart but it didn’t mess anything up and i don’t smoke inside of it, not cigarettes anyways “ … more like that yea ..


kavien

More like… THERE IS NO CAR, Neo.


Gr8ingPresence

That one line is the biggest disappointment in that movie. Anyone trying to figure out what the Matrix is about comes to the question, as the characters in the plot do, about fate, and whether the future is mutable. Had they chosen a fork, instead of a spoon, for that scene, yeah the graphics would have been tougher, but it could also have been a sort of an easter egg. "There is no fork", to a computer scientist would carry profound meaning that "there is no spoon" does not.


TuJuMoving

That part jumped out at me immediately. I was like yeah right 😆


mail4youtoo

Its a scam. Ignore and move on.


IllustriousLab9444

How does this scam work?


mail4youtoo

!car


AutoModerator

AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the eBay/Amazon car sales scam. The scammer will list a car on a marketplace site and will ask you to email them. They will tell you that they will ship or otherwise transport the car to you and allow you to inspect it. They may use the name of a company like eBay or Amazon to make the scam sound more legitimate. The scam is that the car does not exist, despite whatever pictures you have received, and you will be asked to pay for the car using gift cards or irreversible wire transfers. [Here](https://i.imgur.com/WAMDLc8.jpg) is an example of an eBay car scam, [here](https://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive-Motors/CAR-SCAM/td-p/24113946) is an eBay forum thread about the scam, [here](https://fox6now.com/2015/04/15/they-kind-of-just-told-me-straight-upyouve-been-scammed-teen-out-1500-after-online-car-buying-scam/) is a news article about the scam, and [here](https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/2019/06/put-brakes-phony-online-car-sales) is a Federal Trade Commission article about the scam. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*


IllustriousLab9444

Thank you


cptngali86

Look at the ebay scam link in the automod reply, it's basically cookie cutter what you got


krepogregg

If it involved Ebay then it would be listed on Ebay


Havequick99

I feel like there are so many of these scams that basically you could put any word behind an exclamation mark and the automod would have something to say about it. !banana


mail4youtoo

AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the banana sales scam. The scammer will list a banana on a marketplace site and will ask you to email them. They will tell you that they will ship or otherwise transport the banana to you and allow you to inspect it. They may use the name of a company like eBay or Amazon to make the scam sound more legitimate. The scam is that the banana does not exist, despite whatever pictures you have received, and you will be asked to pay for the banana using gift cards or irreversible wire transfers. Here is an example of an banana scam, here is an eBay forum thread about the scam, here is a news article about the scam, and here is a Federal Trade Commission article about the scam. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.


Current_Ad_5966

Ah the old banana scam. Can’t trust them chiquitas.


Havequick99

Good bot


excelzombie

Damn they even got the 🍌 s! Not the 🍌 s!


Seeking-Direction

“Brings back bad memories” is always part of these scams. So are the weird references to eBay.


Korrocks

Scammers seem to think that eBay is some kind of all purpose business that provides any kind of service imaginable. They are always talking about using it as an escrow service, using it to deliver cash, store valuables, process high dollar transactions that took place outside of their website, etc.


Ok-Doctor-5283

Absolutely! I’ve come across the same scam using motorcycles as bait, almost always with the “bad memories” thing. Also look out for “deployed overseas” and “in prison”. It is definitely 100% a scam. If there is still a tiny part of you that won’t accept that it’s a scam, offer to pay for and pick up the car in person. They’ll either not respond or give a bad excuse on why you can’t do that.


your_xavia

Price too good to be true. Weird, overly specific backstory. Doesn't seem to know how eBay works. Delivery. Yeah, scam.


Upset_Ad9929

Scam. Always a scam if there's some huge, irrelevant backstory


cacille

"The car is already at ebay". Instant scam from those words alone. Ebay does not keep items. Ebay does not have a storage center. The storage centers are your own houses! Ebay connects buyers and sellers only...including Ebay motors or literally anything with the ebay brand name. I run two ebay names, one for a company that has, currently, 4700 items up.


bstondaddy12

Damn… my threshold for trusting someone as an eBay expert is having 4800 items for sale at one time.. sorry amateur.


cacille

Ok then. Trust what you will.


Zealousideal_Film752

Cmon, put the batteries back in your sarcasm detector


GroundbreakingHead65

Imagine selling your car at a steep discount through Ebay instead of just heading to Carmax or any number of places and getting a fair price in an hour or so.


Pannycakes666

# DUE TO THEIR MEDICAL PROBLEMS!


AdministrativeOwl617

That turned out to be a death in the family 😆


AdMore3461

It’s a very common and obvious scam. That’s not how eBay works, not how payments work, and that’s not an average market price for the car. That whole saying about “if it seems too good to be true…”


Purple1829

Not only is this a scam, this is a scam that likely goes back close to 100 years. There was even an Andy Griffith episode where this exact scam (internet not included) happened.


Beths_Titties

Is this Opie?


rnigma

The one where Barney bought the car from Grandma Walton?


erishun

Yes, it’s a very very very common scam. Same exact script. That’s not how eBay works. When you buy things on eBay, you pay for them on eBay. He will email you a fake email pretending to be eBay asking for gift cards


ListOfString

You are here on this subreddit, so you've already sensed a red flag. Whenever something is "urgent" you should stop, take a moment to breathe and then carefully consider the message. On average if it involves any combination of the following, it's a scam. * Urgency. ⬅️ you are here * Crypto. * Free money. * Logging in to something. * You sending something to someone you'd never want the entire internet to see. * A picture of a random attractive person. * Anything that sounds too good to be true.- ⬅️ you are here * Zelle, CashApp, PayPal, checks, or bank accounts. * Transfer fees or "business accounts". Zelle, PayPal don't work like this. * Special fees, "courier", "business accounts", marketplace "dealerships".- ⬅️ you are here * The word "kindly". * Someone trying to gain your trust to do something you already know is wrong. * Sending a code to help someone unlock "their" account. * Buying gift cards and sending someone the code. * If someone is trying to convince you it's "legit" or "not a scam".- ⬅️ you are here * Clicking on a random link or scanning a random QR code. * A random person or person you haven't spoken to in years contacting you about an "opportunity". * Purchasing equipment for a "job", specially from a check. * Taking money to pay a "contractor" or other third party out of a payment you are to receive. You should avoid clicking links in messenger, text, or emails and go directly to the business' website. You will not be asked to verify your identity or be asked to provide an MFA code to anyone for any legit reason. Likewise, you should avoid giving sensitive information to strangers. **Do not accept or pay for rental property/houses/cars unseen.** **When dealing with marketplace buying or selling you should ONLY do cash, in person, in a well lit place (possibly a police station).** When you've identified you're dealing with a scammer. **STOP** communicating with them. Ignore and block them immediately. You might have to disable your account(s) for a month or two to get them to stop completely. If you have given personally identifying information, like addresses or credit cards, you may want to investigate credits freezes and ID theft protection. Cancel credit cards or close bank accounts IMMEDIATELY if you have given this information to scammers. Your bank may also choose to reverse any fraudulent charges on your card. If you deposited a check from a scammer, call your bank and report it. DO NOT spend/send "money" from any checks. There is no need to be embarrassed about falling victim to a scam. Professional scambaiting YT channels have fallen victim to a scam.


[deleted]

My daughter almost fell for a version of this scam while she was looking for her first car. I always told her to ask me first before buying anything and I'm glad she did.


Max_Packer

Anytime they offer lots of side story drama it's a scam.


Adeep187

There's absolutely no chance this is not a scam buddy.


S_immer

WAIT, WHAT? No 1000.00 gift when you buy it? I cry foul!


AustinBike

When there is more information about WHY they are selling the car than information about the actual car? Scam, always a scam.


verukazalt

SCAM


RobertETHT2

Get their address. Tell them you have an inspector who will look at the car. I’m in Tomball, TX 5 days a week currently. No problem to look at it.


[deleted]

Always a sob story too


Massive_Screen6424

This one is awful. Definitely not an English speaker. Shipping a vehicle wouldn’t be free on a cheap car either lol. Too funny that they’re saying the car is at eBay 😂


jimsmythee

Yep it’s a scam. They’re going to tell you that the car isn’t local to you. And it’ll need to be shipped at no cost to you. But you’ll have to buy gift cards first and reveal the numbers to someone else.


erishun

Compare the scam script you got with these other scams: * https://community.ebay.com/t5/Ask-a-Mentor/Possible-Scam/qaq-p/28254856 * https://community.ebay.com/t5/Ask-a-Mentor/Phishing-scam-or-legit-Thoughts/td-p/32065926 * https://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&p=364775 * https://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&p=386138 * https://maplemoney.com/amazon-payments-car-scam/ * https://isobellynx.com/articles/infosec/devious-facebook-marketplace-scam-unmasked/ * https://www.chinookrvforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1066


NaturesFire

Trust your gut - Merkules


MorbidCuriositi

It most definitely is. They've been doing this for a while. It's a long email about a car under blue book price (too good to be true) in perfect condition that belonged to a dead loved one so they just want it gone. (Or they were recently in an accident and can no longer drive and need to sell the car to pay medical expenses.) They say it's through Amazon or Ebay and you get a fake email from either with a way to pay that LOOKS like it's going through one of them. The only thing is - Amazon does NOT do cars and while Ebay does - they DO NOT ship cars. Ebay is a website, not an actual place. They do not have the car, or any car, and when you wire them money from what looks like an Amazon car website or Ebay car website is just a very convincing fake website. Or they do not waste their time with that, instead they will have you pay in some irreversible way. You don't get a car, you don't get your money back. No one will ship a car to you to "test for 5 days". This is a common scam and they almost got me with it years ago when it first surfaced. Luckily, I was suspicious when they said Amazon because I didn't think Amazon did cars. They insisted they did, on a separate site, called "Amazon.vehicle" or something like that. Sent me the fakest looking website I've ever seen. I googled it and saw it was a new common scam and I told them I reached out to Amazon myself and they got mad saying Amazon emailed me. When it was clearly an email NOT from Amazon. Companies will not email you, you have to email them. Always Google and check before sending your money and if it sounds too good to be true - then it is.


CaliforniaSpeedKing

It is a scam, abnormally low mileage and low price are the telltale signs of a scam. Ignore and move on. The specific scam is a !car scam. They’ll use stolen photos to scam people with.


AutoModerator

AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the eBay/Amazon car sales scam. The scammer will list a car on a marketplace site and will ask you to email them. They will tell you that they will ship or otherwise transport the car to you and allow you to inspect it. They may use the name of a company like eBay or Amazon to make the scam sound more legitimate. The scam is that the car does not exist, despite whatever pictures you have received, and you will be asked to pay for the car using gift cards or irreversible wire transfers. [Here](https://i.imgur.com/WAMDLc8.jpg) is an example of an eBay car scam, [here](https://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive-Motors/CAR-SCAM/td-p/24113946) is an eBay forum thread about the scam, [here](https://fox6now.com/2015/04/15/they-kind-of-just-told-me-straight-upyouve-been-scammed-teen-out-1500-after-online-car-buying-scam/) is a news article about the scam, and [here](https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/2019/06/put-brakes-phony-online-car-sales) is a Federal Trade Commission article about the scam. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*


redplanetlover

Always a scam when they include all that extraneous bs.


SerTidy

This one is a common one we see on here a lot. Always selling due to some tragedy and the vehicle bringing bad memories. Well done for being suspicious and coming on here to check.


RealRoosterhoot

Not how E Bay works. Never believe anyone when they over share a sob story.


LeslieMarston

$1200 is a damn good price for a 2008 VW with only 23000 miles on it, probably too good. I'm sure eBay has a way to sell cars without getting scammed, and those probably isn't it.


TuJuMoving

A 2006 car with 23,000 plus miles and for only $1200 in perfect condition! That alone is way too good to be true. Then the sob story. My husband died, my daughter was in a plane crash, my son was kidnapped, the dog got canine aids, my feet stopped working and I sweat incessantly, etc always sad stories that they share with you even when you don't ask why they are selling. As sad as possible so you will be eager to give your money to help them during their bad times.


[deleted]

If it's too good to be true then it's not true.


GaryG7

eBay doesn't offer any help other than publishing your listing. If you are sell something on eBay, the company takes a percentage. The car is 14 years old and she's claiming it has 23,153 miles.


Designer-Yam-2430

Nobody tells you their sad life story when selling a car


RobertETHT2

Welll, if you have time to listen, I have a long and sad story to tell, but no car to sell. If you feel there needs to be a sale/purchase linked to my story, I have junk in the attic I can offer up.


Full_Committee6967

This is the third time that I've seen this message cut and pasted


DiscGolfer01

I read 2 sentences and already knew it was a scam lol


darrentexas

Definitely a scam!


twinings91

I read the first sentence and knew it was a scam. Grammar is totally off, it just sounds weird and it also follows the same script as a few others I've seen on this sub.


Murky-Stand4018

Yes, the second line with "no hidden defects" is verbatim for about every eBay car scam I've ever seen.


Havequick99

Trust me


Alternative_Double75

Can you even buy a car thru ebay? That sounds weird


Tiredplumber2022

English is not their native language.... syntax is off.


eyesabovewater

That ebay garage is HUGE


RightCoyote

Question for the vets of this sub, how many times have you seen something *not* be a scam?


Witchynana

Way too much info and Ebay does not offer this service. It is a scam.


[deleted]

It's a scam please ignore this message.


nightmareorreality

There is no fucking way that car is $1200. That immediately tells me it’s a scam


PrincessNorrain

Long, drawn out sob story is an almost sure sign of a scam...


Goodlittlewitch

Too much detail with weird, choppy English. Scam.


SiliconSam

Ahh, come on. Just look at the price and car condition. Should be self explanatory to anyone with some resemblance of any sense whatsoever.


hoehater1

They just forgot to stamp it with the red scam stamp before sending


skylighttttt

Yes


VekeKing

This is hilarious!


falcon3268

This is why I don't trust those online sites on buying a new car. I will always go with a dealership that I trust


midnightpmaster

Ebay doesn't store people's items. Ebay only provides an online platform for you to list products and get potential customers. Ebay plays no active part in the buying, selling or shipping process. Anyone that says stuff like that is trying to scam you


Legendary_Lootbox

2.5L beetle? haha fake as fuck


cptngali86

I understand that people genuinely need help here but for fuck sake three posts are getting a little annoying. If anyone actually took 10 minutes to read through the sub they'd become a expert on scams. I've so far only seen one non scam here when posted. That person thought a actual computer vendor who they contacted through the actual website was trying to scam them because they sent a link to process a payment that they initiated lol.


[deleted]

Scam and a half


SylviaFutur

Listen - I have a volk EOS convertible 2012 - 30000 miles and I would ask so much more than . 1200$ Impossible that someone would sell this car at this price. SCAM They want your personal info.