I have scrapped used coils and condensers like this.
The problem is that the outside of the coil is a steel tube whereas inside the coils is a copper tube that is expanded inside of it.
The easiest way I have found is to cut the coil into smaller 6-8 inch sections using a plug in saw-Zall and a bi-metal or metal blade.
Once you have your smaller sections you will need to use a hammer or mallet to make the piece more round, loosing up the internal copper tube.
Use a vise to hold the piece while you use a hammer and chisel to smash out the copper tube center.
You should get #2 copper for the copper at your local scrap yard.
Good luck
You're not wrong, but that cost can also be passed on to the buyer either directly as a shipping fee or by charging a slightly higher premium on the metal itself. Go look for yourself. It's honestly ridiculous how much people are willing to pay for copper bullion on eBay.
I figured a horizontal band saw to cut those pieces down into macaroni elbows, and the copper would fall out…is the copper really fully expanded inside the steel? How does whatever flowing through the steel get through?
Looked to me like might’ve been like a water source condenser unit, where the refrigerant goes through the smaller copper line, and water goes through the steel.
To each their own. It is hard work and sometimes the payoff doesn’t seem like it’s worth it. I like separating metals versus taking in a load of shrewd.
Today I just took apart a neighbour’s barbecue because the top was stainless, you have to separate the metals or it goes as dirty.
I’m going to add that metal to my next load.
Well, with the coils it’s no different. I don’t mind the work of taking them apart, I just want more money for the metal I take to the scrap yards.
Then you’re a piece of shit ripping off other people.
I know you’re probably not, but when you ask “if I am stealing so what” then what else did you expect?
I'd have to look at the price list when I get back to the shop. But we buy them as 60/40 coils. They have a line item on their own. They're priced as copper recovery. For sure though, don't try and melt the copper out. We don't buy home melt anything. And I don't know who would.
Yes but probably not as well as pure copper. As another stated these have a steel outer layer and I believe the piece you're talking about is to condense the alcohol. Remembering back to my highschool shenanigan days the piece is used to collect alcohol from boiling it with other liquids since the alcohol evaporates at lower temps. The nice thing about copper is it can fluctuate temp easily so the outside air is enough to condense the alcohol on and have it drip back down to give you a higher purity Now, just because this has an outside layer of steel doesn't mean that it won't work or even that it won't work well. Just my thoughts on the idea.
My set up is boiler a cap where the alcohol vapor gathers.and a what I call a arm over to the worm.and my worm is just coiled copper tubing ran down into a barrel of cold water and that's what condenses back to liquor and drips into the jar.im just a rookie starting out with distilling but have had a few good runs in the year since I started.
This would work absolutely fine as a heat exchanger on a still, just running a bare copper pipe being cooled by the ambient air would be really inefficient and you would be losing tons of alcohol vapors that didn't condense. The material of the heat exchanger is not as important as how efficiently it can do it's job, and this jacketed style hooked up to a water bath with a pump would work great.
Scrappers at it again, trying to scrap something more useful as it is before they get it, then spending 10x more effort to break it down into something worth bothering with. Lmao, you clowns will spend an hour chopping, pounding and ripping shit like this up to make to go from $0.05/lb to $3.50/lb and only process two pounds of it in that hour. Not even counting the time and gas you waste driving up and down alleys looking for it that means you will turn your time into <$7/hr on shit like this. For fucks sake learn what diminishing returns are and get a job a Burger King on weekends and do your meth during the week.
I have scrapped used coils and condensers like this. The problem is that the outside of the coil is a steel tube whereas inside the coils is a copper tube that is expanded inside of it. The easiest way I have found is to cut the coil into smaller 6-8 inch sections using a plug in saw-Zall and a bi-metal or metal blade. Once you have your smaller sections you will need to use a hammer or mallet to make the piece more round, loosing up the internal copper tube. Use a vise to hold the piece while you use a hammer and chisel to smash out the copper tube center. You should get #2 copper for the copper at your local scrap yard. Good luck
Gonna be a bitch lol but appreciate the response
Why not cut it up and throw it in a furnace? Copper melts at a much lower temp that steel
Interesting idea, but ingets don't generally scrap well.
Nah, but they will sell for about 5x over spot on eBay.
Shipping itself will be over spot price lmao.
You're not wrong, but that cost can also be passed on to the buyer either directly as a shipping fee or by charging a slightly higher premium on the metal itself. Go look for yourself. It's honestly ridiculous how much people are willing to pay for copper bullion on eBay.
There are coin collecting groups that buy small copper casted Scrooge Mcducks for 40 buck a pop.
Niches make riches
Wouldn’t it be better to sell them intact as a condenser so that people can use for distilling alcohol?
I had the same thought. That would be recycling responsibly.
Albeit probably illegal to distill without a permit. Maybe you list it as “for tobacco use only” pipe adapter.
"This is hemp"
I don't think it's illegal to distill without a permit. I do believe it's illegal to sell the final product for any amount of money without a permit.
I figured a horizontal band saw to cut those pieces down into macaroni elbows, and the copper would fall out…is the copper really fully expanded inside the steel? How does whatever flowing through the steel get through?
Steel is encasing it to shield it, not to provide a secondary channel for anything to pass through
Looked to me like might’ve been like a water source condenser unit, where the refrigerant goes through the smaller copper line, and water goes through the steel.
Hmm that would be a first for me, i havent heard of it but that would be cool if they make those. You could be correct
They definitely make those and this looks exactly like that.
That seems like an absurd effort for minimal payout....
What is your time worth? Sounds like a lot of work for little reward
How could there possibly be any profit in screwing around that much?
To each their own. It is hard work and sometimes the payoff doesn’t seem like it’s worth it. I like separating metals versus taking in a load of shrewd. Today I just took apart a neighbour’s barbecue because the top was stainless, you have to separate the metals or it goes as dirty. I’m going to add that metal to my next load. Well, with the coils it’s no different. I don’t mind the work of taking them apart, I just want more money for the metal I take to the scrap yards.
They’re worth more to beer makers for chilling beer. See if you get any bites selling it on fb
Maybe even find a guy looking for a couple to replace two that were recently ripped from his ice machines 🤣
😂😂😂
Ok not gonna lie something along the lines of your post was what I originally thought 😁😄😆🤣😅😄😐.....
Or distillers.
This is such a suspicious sounding post lol
I literally work in maintenance.
Fair enough but with zero context it sounded like you hacked up the ice machines at a couple motels 😂
Maintaining your fentanyl addiction
Yep. I’m commercial building maintenance.
OP is a legitimate entrepreneur.
If I am stealing so what?
Then you’re a piece of shit ripping off other people. I know you’re probably not, but when you ask “if I am stealing so what” then what else did you expect?
I’m doing a thing that literally everyone hates, so what? /s
Reddit lives in a shell
I'd have to look at the price list when I get back to the shop. But we buy them as 60/40 coils. They have a line item on their own. They're priced as copper recovery. For sure though, don't try and melt the copper out. We don't buy home melt anything. And I don't know who would.
Yeah a few yards around me have a similar line item, or even “irony copper radiator scrap” for like $1.50/lb.
Are they jacketed tubes? I would probably buy them from you. Idk how much they go for
Could they be used as the worm part of a moonshine Stihl? I mean if you connect a few together? don't know just asking.
Yes but probably not as well as pure copper. As another stated these have a steel outer layer and I believe the piece you're talking about is to condense the alcohol. Remembering back to my highschool shenanigan days the piece is used to collect alcohol from boiling it with other liquids since the alcohol evaporates at lower temps. The nice thing about copper is it can fluctuate temp easily so the outside air is enough to condense the alcohol on and have it drip back down to give you a higher purity Now, just because this has an outside layer of steel doesn't mean that it won't work or even that it won't work well. Just my thoughts on the idea.
My set up is boiler a cap where the alcohol vapor gathers.and a what I call a arm over to the worm.and my worm is just coiled copper tubing ran down into a barrel of cold water and that's what condenses back to liquor and drips into the jar.im just a rookie starting out with distilling but have had a few good runs in the year since I started.
This would work absolutely fine as a heat exchanger on a still, just running a bare copper pipe being cooled by the ambient air would be really inefficient and you would be losing tons of alcohol vapors that didn't condense. The material of the heat exchanger is not as important as how efficiently it can do it's job, and this jacketed style hooked up to a water bath with a pump would work great.
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Tree Fiddy!!
Sell it to a home brewer for $150
OP really meant to say “I got a 5 finger discount during a night out at work, how much can I get?” 🤣
Got Ice
Thought this would've gotten more up votes. Made me laugh out loud. Thx
2 hours of work for $5...
Looks like a stupid plug for an ebay business. Or a crackhead busted open ice machines in low budget motels.
Your fellow residents at the motel are gonna be pissed the ice machines don’t work now.
Wow, a condenser that small?
Please return them to the McDonald’s ice cream machines.
Or you can clean it real good and use it to make booze.
Once he sells the condensers he'll be the ("ICE" Machine) if you catch my drift.... Wink Wink
Scrappers at it again, trying to scrap something more useful as it is before they get it, then spending 10x more effort to break it down into something worth bothering with. Lmao, you clowns will spend an hour chopping, pounding and ripping shit like this up to make to go from $0.05/lb to $3.50/lb and only process two pounds of it in that hour. Not even counting the time and gas you waste driving up and down alleys looking for it that means you will turn your time into <$7/hr on shit like this. For fucks sake learn what diminishing returns are and get a job a Burger King on weekends and do your meth during the week.
I’m going to do my meth whenever I feel like it thank you
Seems like a whole lot of work for very little money.
Or use em as liquor condensers
The scrap shop locally here would pay you for the steel not the copper
Not much unless you can Seperate it and get it to bare copper
Who's ice machines?