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Whenever two characters are flying through the air with odm gear while having a whole ass conversation for like five minutes, without ever shooting another grappling hook
Or the fact that they can fire their hooks with pinpoint precision despite the fact there's no aiming device and the launchers are aimed with their hips.
It would be a lot easier tho right? Because of the aiming thing? Also I’d imagine it couldn’t be worse than fighter pilot g force that they go through right surely one could be trained to over come jt
Those are the ones with the guns, right? Same issues. The G forces on them would be equivalent to getting into low-mid speed car crashes every single time they accelerate or change direction. The first attempt at propelling with the grappling hook would rip their arm off without some kind of exoskeleton to reinforce them... assuming they don't immediately die of whiplash from breaking their necks. It would fix the aiming problem, though
Formula One and IndyCar drivers regularly experience 5+ gs for extended periods of time. I really feel like it'd be possible to make functional ODM gear that at least moves somewhat quickly, but the operator would need decades of training and experience to be able to handle it. With the whole aiming thing too. There'd prolly be like 5 people in the world that can do it but some people can do some exceptional things
It wouldn't be as fast as what's shown in the show but you could probably make it such that it doesn't kill the user. The bigger issue would be just how much compressed gas it uses. You'd likely only get a shots before you completely run out, even with magic ice burst gas
There is actually a little switch on the inside of the handle that the user can adjust with their thumb. That being said, your point about precision still stands. There’s no way the accuracy is as good as it’s represented
Yeah that's the most confusing part. It's not like driving a car, cus if you make one mistake or are caught off guard ONCE you can swing out of control and die. There's no stop system on them (from what I remember). The only thing you can really say is they were reaaaaally good at their training so this never happened
In the manga, there's a little lore dump page that explains how the ODM is controlled by the internal leg harness, and how different leg positions can aim the harpoons in different directions.
So all those fancy superhero poses the characters do as they're flying around actually translate to the specific maneuvers they're doing.
That ODM training that Eren was struggling with was precisely that. Keeping the harpoons under control using your legs.
Exactly lol, real life ODM gear is so laughably underwhelming and really shows how crazy unrealistic the anime is https://youtu.be/8ouS7G6k04A?si=WPmKUi6nCmtBw_mU
I found the fact that the grappling anchor hook things will stick into like ANY surface. The wall is made of that harding substance that’s super hard to crack, but somehow it’s easy to anchor into it? Idk, I really love the concept of odm gear tho so I never actually cared
Also the way they can just easily remove those hooks every time, even when they were attached enough to hold all that force. The hooks never seem to get stuck in the walls when they don't want them to.
You can see Armin aim his handles pretty clearly when he awkwardly points them downward to shoot them into erens titans neck, right before stabbing Eren in the shoulder to wake him up.
Obviously there are going to be more examples of the creators not bothering to show them aiming it, and it just working anyways.
Nope that’s the new gear where the anchors come out of the hand part with the attacked pistols. The original variants were fired by triggers from the swords but the launchers were on their hips
I know, im talking about the original
The flaw they mentioned for the pistols one is that they couldnt shoot and swing at the same time. Wich with the swords doesnt matter
The launcher are on their hips but they still choose were they land (idk how). I remember when eren transformed to protect armin and mikasa from the cannonball Reiner was the first one to go see what happened and you can see it aiming the hook and launching it in the direction he aimed
-edit-
Discard all of that, just found out how it works https://khyeili.tumblr.com/post/97499863179/dude-about-the-a-choice-with-no-regrets-trailer
The top slider is probably the horizontal axis
This is funny, but sometimes infuriating, especially in Jojo
Dio and Jotaro would talk for like 2 minutes and then “3 seconds has passed” like what lol
That bugs me so much in live action movies when people are like... riding on motorcycles or something, and having a conversation at normal inside voice volume
Didn’t that happen to Eren once? In season 2 he killed one of the Ragako titans with his ODM rig and ate shit immediately after because his wires got tangled
Reminds of Naruto when characters would talk while leaping from tree branch to tree branch for five minutes. Like there’s no way there’s a branch to jump to that’s at the same height every time.
Because Science did a great video on the ODM gear, and basically moving as fast as they do on screen would make you pass out and die from the g force or something (been a while since I watched it), but basically they would kill you if you used them as shown.
Cowa-bummer.
I don't recall; were the Paths ever explained? Like why there was an alternate dimension with access to all time and space? Or was it just...there and the reader was expected to just accept that it was a thing.
It's kept a mystery on purpose
Zeke proposed a theory that a "world without death" was Ymir Fritz's wish, in which case the worm thing is legitimately god-like (though we kinda knew that anyway)
You mean how the founder can even retroactively affect events in the past because of **course** it can? Absolute genius move that needed to be added to an already ridiculous set of abilities.
In fact, it's not even the attack titan really.
The other shifters powers are native to their titans from what we see, but the attack titans power exists literally only because of Eren (& Zeke), thanks to being in paths and able to manipulate memory through the founder.
Edit: Oh wait this sorta just goes full circle lol
Because Eren sent them to them. The only memories we ever see transferred to them involve Eren as well. It's just like how the attack titan has 'always fought for freedom'. The attack titan is entirely born of Erens will and situation.
That might legitimately be a workable and one interesting story line though.
The Eldian Royal Family is characterized in a way that might have the King with the Founder order something like this:
King with Founder: The subjects of Ymir exist to serve me. They live so long as I have a use for them. They die at my whim or when I deem them worthy of release. Before this disease, I tolerated allowing them to die like slaves. No, I was kind and gave them the grace to die like slaves so they would no longer bring shame to Eldia. But, that is no longer possible.Ymir, I order you to make every Eldian, now and forever, strong enough to carry out the tasks they were born to fulfill.
And then that King could spend the rest of his 13 year term carrying out the Ymir alteration experimentation that canonically produced the Ackermans. The sheer body count and disregard for life could become a reason for Karl Fritz to make his Vow.
It could even be produced through the lens of Eren going through all memories of every Eldian that ever existed. Eren could even interfere with the creation of the Ackermans out of necessity.
The King could order: You exist for the sake of Eldia.
Eren could have that mean: You exist to produce Mikasa and Levi so they can kill me to end Eldia.
He could even be used as a foil for the first Ackerman. Obey because the cumulative knowledge of your bloodline is a requirement to obtain your revenge.
How will the Ackerman know when to rebel if generations of their family are raised to be the loyal dog to the royal family? Who would, potentially, be killed if they realized that they could give their loyalty to someone outside of the royal family? Snuffed out at the first chance of disagreement?
They could be told, rip out his throat if your master fails at his duty. Karl Fritz running to the walls could be that failure. The Ackermans on the mainland could then use their new found independence to kill off all mainland royals except those required to allow Dina to be born in the future. Then, the Ackermans within the Walls could escape to the underground.
G forces aren't "damage", they're just what happens when you have a lot of acceleration with a container w fluid, the fluid will gather in one side. So the blood doesn't get everywhere like it usually does
The only way for the founder to change this is to give everyone much faster blood circulation and stronger hearts, but the take there is that they'd bleed out faster
Given that Odm gear wasn't a thing back then the founder probably wouldn't change this
I’ve thought of that explanation too, but it’s made very clear throughout the series that Eldians have the same durability as other humans with the only exception being Ackermans, who are basically superhuman. That is also part of why the Ackermans are so special, as they’re the only people in AoT with enhanced physical abilities aside from Titan Shifters.
this bummed me out just like when i learned the hookshot from Zelda would tear your arm out its socket due to the sheer strength needed to pull a 160+lb dude off the ground
But that's magic. There's no device for propulsion at all either, it just works due to magic.
Don't be bummed out.
Every Link has the spirit of the hero, that is Hylia's beloved. So he's spared a horrible fate, I'm sure he's granted protection to endure many powers and forces.
Maybe that’s why only Levi and Mikasa are so good at maneuvers. Like what if they’re only able to push it like that because their bodies are basically titan strength?
They are trained to use it and the founder can effect all eldians DNA so they could've given them more resilient bodies. Or they were just forced to adapt to it to survive and through generations they got mor resilient. Cause if you can't move that fast you are dead
Not to mention the trainers in the cadet corps die in training all the time lol one of the title cards says something like
“Trainers will routinely cut trainees life lines to see how they react when in a life or death situation, this can result in death, but if they die as a result they were never fit to be a soldier anyway”
That’s very much paraphrasing, but it essentially says exactly that
I’m pretty sure they’d be paralyzed before anything. When they pull that trigger and activate the whole gas mechanism, people wouldn’t be prepared and they’d get folded the moment they try to use it.
The titans for sure
BUT the ODM gear is unbelievable shockingly feasible
Not to the extent of blitzing around a town at 100+ mph, but I guy fucking built functional ODM gear in his free time, then cut the nape of an wumbo inflatable monkey
So I strongly believe that if a guy with money smarts and free time can make half decent functional ODM gear, then if as a society we threw millions of tax dollars at creating it? It could be made easily
The main issue is the grappling hook grabbing then releasing tho
Here’s the video, it’s badass
https://youtu.be/8ouS7G6k04A?si=OLzBFwNJSiSowViA
Grisha Jaeger marching up to the walls, where nobody knew him, claiming he had amnesia but “knew” he was a doctor and not only being let in but being immediately handed a medical practice without anyone asking questions.
I'm pretty sure they imprisoned him first unless I'm confusing it with that one spinoff manga, but either way I can see what you're saying.
If Grisha came from outside then he was either an outsider (duh) potential enemy, or he was someone from within the walls that managed to escape, and we all know what happens to those that try to see the outside world so how come Grisha didn't get executed somehow?
I'm pretty sure Shadis took Grisha to the Garrison within Shiganshina, in Hannes' custody in particular. Seeing as the Garrison at the time was largely incompetent and lazy, they took Grisha's words at face value and let him go. It helped too that Shadis, who I guessed was a high-ranking Scout at the time, vouched for Grisha.
Funny because I operated under the premise that Grisha couldn’t come from the outside because early on there was an emphasis made on the walls and security. Then he just waltzes in…
Becoming a doctor used to be more of an apprenticeship type of work than something you studied for decades. Furthermore, he knew more about medicine than anyone inside the walls about medicine, something other doctors would’ve recognized. He wasn’t handed a medical practice, he went to help at a hospital at first.
Obviously OP and you are both just quipping here, but I just want to point out that there are two types of realism. There’s “this would never work in our world based on what we know about the world we live in” and there’s “that wouldn’t work in their world based on what they’ve established as the rules for that world”.
So you can tell me that in your world, these impossible immortal giants are a thing, and that can be fine, but if you also (seem to) tell me that the rest of physics works like we think it does on earth, then those hoods are unexplained magic. Lol.
Of course there’s lots of that though. People slam their backs into walls and are fine, they fly around on hooks that would never hold them, or doing maneuvers that would break them in half, etc. So clearly there’s other magic physics going on.
You’re both funny though.
>Of course there’s lots of that though. People slam their backs into walls and are fine, they fly around on hooks that would never hold them, or doing maneuvers that would break them in half, etc. So clearly there’s other magic physics going on.
This is the one thing I always love and joke about in anime, and probably truly thought about it during the Naruto vs Sasuke fight when Naruto uppercutted Sasuke into the rock wall at final valley. Mfs really be breaking rocks and busting up buildings with their bodies and get up fine, but the punches and attacks from other people is what fucks them up most. 😂 So everybody just stronger than rocks and shit.
Megumi and people getting flown through multiple buildings at a time fighting Sukuna, but still being able to move, let alone try to continue fighting lmao.
OBVIOUSLY viewers would know most of this is mainly for flashy aesthetics though (aside from the slight damage they do take, which most of those impacts would still turn real humans into splats on the wall likely) but I find it amusing nonetheless!
Oh man that Naruto and Sasuke fight had 8yr old me HYPED, but it also had 8yr old me wondering why these ninjas can tank literal fireballs and boulders and electricity yet a single punch to the gut almost knocks them out cold lol
See, now this bugged me at first too until I read something else.
Falco was Jaw titan, but his pure titan form was gotten from Beast titan serum, and from a royal at that. We think of the Beast as a monkey, but I believe that each Beast is a different animal (Zekes predecessor was a ram type). So combining Jaw with Beast serum created a Jaw titan with wings.
We may have seen other crazy stuff had anyone else turned into pure titan from Zekes serum then also eaten 1 of the 9.
But it was foreshadowed. Ep1 of season 4 after Falco is hurt on battlefield he says "was I just dreaming, I was flying in the sky with swords".
Now I assumed that meant he was going to get ODM gear or he was going to eat Eren and this was him seeing into tnr future.
Also general calvi was talking about flying titans at the beginning of the Marley arc. Also, season one end credits had a picture of what appears to be a flying titan on the mural in the background. Flying titan was predicted by the community for years before it actually happened.
It means the animal falcon in italian language, they call him "falco" there
It is also the scientific name of the animal/bird falco/falcon
The first bird that falco saw in s4 ep 1 also is a falco peregrinus (nobody noticed it lmao)
Unironically you don't even need to put a "n" in his name to means a bird, falco already means a bird even without the "n" from falcon (falco(N) is only the english name of this bird) if aot fans payed more attention to the details...
Falco basically transformed into himself
It was foreshadowed, the first time their characters were introduced in the series. Also, every time he transformed, there were added birdlike features in his form.
Let’s just say ppl could use ODM gear as well as they do in the series ppl would still be breaking their legs and shit with some of these heights/speeds they land on
The attack titna being able to travel through time through another attack titan's memories or something like that and causing closed loop time travel shenanigans
Personally I think only a very few selection of movies have done it well such as back to the future. The way they worked so many tiny details into each film that are referenced or payed off later is genius.
You don’t just DIE after getting stabbed instantly
It sometimes takes more than half an hour till you bleed out and well.. he transformed after like 3 or 4 seconds so perfectly realistic to me
Well and it was even explained why and how he survived that attack
One thing I’m still confused about after all these years is how the recruits got stuck inside Trost because they didn’t have the gas to go up and over the wall. Then 2 minutes later they have enough to go all the way across Trost to the resupply depot.
But even still, they could just shoot and attach toward the top of the wall, use whatever gas/momentum they can and at least get above the reach of a Titan.
Imo rumbling was just stupid in general but what really bothers me is that the environmental impact of titans burning whole continents should definitely kill off remaining humans (eldians on Paradis included)
Most unrealistic thing are the hooks. Firing them and reeling a full grown adult seem fairly easy to develop of the life of humanity depend on it.
But the hooks? First they grab on any surface. And I don't care about how they look in the show. Even just making anything decently grab on any surface. Unstick when you want. And be reusable. That's the most unrealistic part for me.
The unrealistic physics comes from the fact that the characters look like they aren’t falling as they fly. Considering the direction the maneuver gear is pointed in, flying straight forward would still mean they would be falling, unless they’re pointing their hips tilted upwards as well to counteract gravity, and then it should look like they’re sort of hovering, but in real life, it’d still look funny if they weren’t moving up and down. It should look more like swinging most of the time.
It’s kind of easier to play off in manga, since you can assume every thought or spoken word is said in an instant, and use your imagination to fill in the gaps between panels with realistic motion. Harder when a character is taking thirty seconds monologuing in their head. Either fill the screen with good animation during unimportant moments, or save that budget for the actual action scenes.
Also, it’s pretty obvious when the characters are drawn, they stay still, and the background is moving to simulate motion. Unless they’re yelling crazy loud, it’d be hard to hear each other, especially so far away, with all that wind.
The most unrealistic thing about the plot is that Ymir went back after she got super titan powers and served the same people that abused and tried to kill her when she could have stomped on like ants
that actually happens a lot in real life. People stay in toxic relationships, even if the couple got hit, trated harshly, etc. A kid that only knows being a slave, sexualy abused, and the closest thing to apreciation that she knew is that. Its not unrealistic at all that she fell in love to who abused her
You ever notice how amateur ODM users have to keep firing their hooks and constantly swinging, whereas the more experienced users can just fire once and then fly?
How they doin’ that?
When they have conversations at regular speaking volume when riding full speed horses or flying around in a battle. Shit would be loud as hell and they’re like “ ^^^whatsup ^^^how ^^^ya ^^^doin ^^^titans ^^^amiright “
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Whenever two characters are flying through the air with odm gear while having a whole ass conversation for like five minutes, without ever shooting another grappling hook
Or the fact that they can fire their hooks with pinpoint precision despite the fact there's no aiming device and the launchers are aimed with their hips.
And the G forces would kill you etc etc etc... it's cool as hell tho so I suspend my disbelief
Do you think the anti personnel Odom gear could be possible if the anti titan variant isn’t?
It's the same movement system with different weapons afaik
It would be a lot easier tho right? Because of the aiming thing? Also I’d imagine it couldn’t be worse than fighter pilot g force that they go through right surely one could be trained to over come jt
Those are the ones with the guns, right? Same issues. The G forces on them would be equivalent to getting into low-mid speed car crashes every single time they accelerate or change direction. The first attempt at propelling with the grappling hook would rip their arm off without some kind of exoskeleton to reinforce them... assuming they don't immediately die of whiplash from breaking their necks. It would fix the aiming problem, though
Formula One and IndyCar drivers regularly experience 5+ gs for extended periods of time. I really feel like it'd be possible to make functional ODM gear that at least moves somewhat quickly, but the operator would need decades of training and experience to be able to handle it. With the whole aiming thing too. There'd prolly be like 5 people in the world that can do it but some people can do some exceptional things
Jetpack is more feasible and more practical
It wouldn't be as fast as what's shown in the show but you could probably make it such that it doesn't kill the user. The bigger issue would be just how much compressed gas it uses. You'd likely only get a shots before you completely run out, even with magic ice burst gas
There is actually a little switch on the inside of the handle that the user can adjust with their thumb. That being said, your point about precision still stands. There’s no way the accuracy is as good as it’s represented
Yeah. One switch adjusts the hooks vertically and the other horizontally.
Yeah that's the most confusing part. It's not like driving a car, cus if you make one mistake or are caught off guard ONCE you can swing out of control and die. There's no stop system on them (from what I remember). The only thing you can really say is they were reaaaaally good at their training so this never happened
>there's no stop system The ground: 🤡 am I a fuckin' joke to you?
They meant stop system that doesn’t result in death 😂 The buildings and trees can technically stop them too
Pfft. That's on them for being non-specific. Lol
In the manga, there's a little lore dump page that explains how the ODM is controlled by the internal leg harness, and how different leg positions can aim the harpoons in different directions. So all those fancy superhero poses the characters do as they're flying around actually translate to the specific maneuvers they're doing. That ODM training that Eren was struggling with was precisely that. Keeping the harpoons under control using your legs.
Exactly lol, real life ODM gear is so laughably underwhelming and really shows how crazy unrealistic the anime is https://youtu.be/8ouS7G6k04A?si=WPmKUi6nCmtBw_mU
It's hard to make it when the materials and fuel don't actually exist.
I found the fact that the grappling anchor hook things will stick into like ANY surface. The wall is made of that harding substance that’s super hard to crack, but somehow it’s easy to anchor into it? Idk, I really love the concept of odm gear tho so I never actually cared
Also the way they can just easily remove those hooks every time, even when they were attached enough to hold all that force. The hooks never seem to get stuck in the walls when they don't want them to.
Exactly!
It was basically "let's do spiderman but make it hands free"
They do aim it, it goes where their swords are pointed but idk how would it work realistically
When was that ever established? There are plenty of scenes where they fire them with their blades flinging around wildly.
Yeah, only the anti-personel gun variant functions that way.
You can see Armin aim his handles pretty clearly when he awkwardly points them downward to shoot them into erens titans neck, right before stabbing Eren in the shoulder to wake him up. Obviously there are going to be more examples of the creators not bothering to show them aiming it, and it just working anyways.
Nope that’s the new gear where the anchors come out of the hand part with the attacked pistols. The original variants were fired by triggers from the swords but the launchers were on their hips
I know, im talking about the original The flaw they mentioned for the pistols one is that they couldnt shoot and swing at the same time. Wich with the swords doesnt matter The launcher are on their hips but they still choose were they land (idk how). I remember when eren transformed to protect armin and mikasa from the cannonball Reiner was the first one to go see what happened and you can see it aiming the hook and launching it in the direction he aimed -edit- Discard all of that, just found out how it works https://khyeili.tumblr.com/post/97499863179/dude-about-the-a-choice-with-no-regrets-trailer The top slider is probably the horizontal axis
there are shots where they shoot when both their arms are tucked behind their heads
I'm anime time freezes while characters are talking to each other. It's a fact.
Talking is a free action, this is known both in anime and rpgs
This is funny, but sometimes infuriating, especially in Jojo Dio and Jotaro would talk for like 2 minutes and then “3 seconds has passed” like what lol
It's simple: The ODM has Fast and Furious gears built into them.
Or just having a conversation without any wind noise and perfectly capable of hearing each other.
That bugs me so much in live action movies when people are like... riding on motorcycles or something, and having a conversation at normal inside voice volume
That’s what happens with Levi and Mikasa vs. the Female Titan. Those two had like a whole-ass conversation without shooting another grappling hook.
Also not once do we see any tangle their cables and eat shit even though we’ll see a dozen of them flying in all directions.
Didn’t that happen to Eren once? In season 2 he killed one of the Ragako titans with his ODM rig and ate shit immediately after because his wires got tangled
Reminds of Naruto when characters would talk while leaping from tree branch to tree branch for five minutes. Like there’s no way there’s a branch to jump to that’s at the same height every time.
We’re looking at you Giant Forest
They got upgrades
Because Science did a great video on the ODM gear, and basically moving as fast as they do on screen would make you pass out and die from the g force or something (been a while since I watched it), but basically they would kill you if you used them as shown. Cowa-bummer.
Using ODM gear could be attributed to the Founder possibly making the Subjects of Ymir's bodies more resilient to damage at some point in the past
Gotta love that deus ex machina. If it can't be explained, just say the Founder did it.
The hoods stay in their heads because the Founder made their hair extra sticky.
They also don't wash.
"It's paths. I ain't gotta explain shit." -AOT fandom
I don't recall; were the Paths ever explained? Like why there was an alternate dimension with access to all time and space? Or was it just...there and the reader was expected to just accept that it was a thing.
It's kept a mystery on purpose Zeke proposed a theory that a "world without death" was Ymir Fritz's wish, in which case the worm thing is legitimately god-like (though we kinda knew that anyway)
It's paths. I don't gotta explain shit
"Only Ymir knows"
If Paul survived a stoning and had the audacity to also go straight back into the fire, i think the subjects of Ymir have quite some resilience too.
When the cheap op cop out does cheap op stuff and people don't even bat an eye on how much it destroys the narrative.
Don't worry, the Founder also made the narrative more resilient some time in the past
You mean how the founder can even retroactively affect events in the past because of **course** it can? Absolute genius move that needed to be added to an already ridiculous set of abilities.
That's the attack titan tbf
In fact, it's not even the attack titan really. The other shifters powers are native to their titans from what we see, but the attack titans power exists literally only because of Eren (& Zeke), thanks to being in paths and able to manipulate memory through the founder. Edit: Oh wait this sorta just goes full circle lol
The guy before Grisha had memories from the future and so did Grisha
Because Eren sent them to them. The only memories we ever see transferred to them involve Eren as well. It's just like how the attack titan has 'always fought for freedom'. The attack titan is entirely born of Erens will and situation.
That might legitimately be a workable and one interesting story line though. The Eldian Royal Family is characterized in a way that might have the King with the Founder order something like this: King with Founder: The subjects of Ymir exist to serve me. They live so long as I have a use for them. They die at my whim or when I deem them worthy of release. Before this disease, I tolerated allowing them to die like slaves. No, I was kind and gave them the grace to die like slaves so they would no longer bring shame to Eldia. But, that is no longer possible.Ymir, I order you to make every Eldian, now and forever, strong enough to carry out the tasks they were born to fulfill. And then that King could spend the rest of his 13 year term carrying out the Ymir alteration experimentation that canonically produced the Ackermans. The sheer body count and disregard for life could become a reason for Karl Fritz to make his Vow. It could even be produced through the lens of Eren going through all memories of every Eldian that ever existed. Eren could even interfere with the creation of the Ackermans out of necessity. The King could order: You exist for the sake of Eldia. Eren could have that mean: You exist to produce Mikasa and Levi so they can kill me to end Eldia. He could even be used as a foil for the first Ackerman. Obey because the cumulative knowledge of your bloodline is a requirement to obtain your revenge. How will the Ackerman know when to rebel if generations of their family are raised to be the loyal dog to the royal family? Who would, potentially, be killed if they realized that they could give their loyalty to someone outside of the royal family? Snuffed out at the first chance of disagreement? They could be told, rip out his throat if your master fails at his duty. Karl Fritz running to the walls could be that failure. The Ackermans on the mainland could then use their new found independence to kill off all mainland royals except those required to allow Dina to be born in the future. Then, the Ackermans within the Walls could escape to the underground.
G forces aren't "damage", they're just what happens when you have a lot of acceleration with a container w fluid, the fluid will gather in one side. So the blood doesn't get everywhere like it usually does The only way for the founder to change this is to give everyone much faster blood circulation and stronger hearts, but the take there is that they'd bleed out faster Given that Odm gear wasn't a thing back then the founder probably wouldn't change this
I’ve thought of that explanation too, but it’s made very clear throughout the series that Eldians have the same durability as other humans with the only exception being Ackermans, who are basically superhuman. That is also part of why the Ackermans are so special, as they’re the only people in AoT with enhanced physical abilities aside from Titan Shifters.
Yeah ik it's just a joke. Like any inconsistency in Ben 10 the answer is "Celestialsapiens did it"
this bummed me out just like when i learned the hookshot from Zelda would tear your arm out its socket due to the sheer strength needed to pull a 160+lb dude off the ground
Link has a strong enough arm
The most unrealistic part of TotK is that Ganondorf is able to harm Link's hookshot arm.
But that's magic. There's no device for propulsion at all either, it just works due to magic. Don't be bummed out. Every Link has the spirit of the hero, that is Hylia's beloved. So he's spared a horrible fate, I'm sure he's granted protection to endure many powers and forces.
Link is very much superhuman tho
he may be, but the average human would never be able to support the force needed to hang on
Well I could, but I'm extremely strong. Otherwise I agree.
eh I'm pretty sure titans are more unrealistic
Maybe that’s why only Levi and Mikasa are so good at maneuvers. Like what if they’re only able to push it like that because their bodies are basically titan strength?
They are trained to use it and the founder can effect all eldians DNA so they could've given them more resilient bodies. Or they were just forced to adapt to it to survive and through generations they got mor resilient. Cause if you can't move that fast you are dead
I mean, I just assumed humans in AoT are more resiliant than regular humans like in most anime anyway
He’s forgetting the harness/exo-suit they wear
That would not protect you from the forces of acceleration lmao
Humans can endure more g forces than that, especially in the horizontal axes, it's just the vertical we have problems with.
The titans and using ODM gear so effortlessly 😂 real life humans would be in an absolute mess of tangles with those things imo lol
*Me using ODM gear* Shiiiiiiiiiiiiii- *dies*
Like so many people would just die from either smashing into trees/buildings or getting tangled with each other 😂😭💀
You think that doesn’t happen in AOT I don’t think Armin’s granddad knew how to use ODM gear yet they still sent him to fight titans
I don't think they sent any of those people out with odm gear. That's why they all died (minus 100 of them)
The point is they would have died even faster with odm gear
Not to mention the trainers in the cadet corps die in training all the time lol one of the title cards says something like “Trainers will routinely cut trainees life lines to see how they react when in a life or death situation, this can result in death, but if they die as a result they were never fit to be a soldier anyway” That’s very much paraphrasing, but it essentially says exactly that
"he was never fit to be a soldier anyway” "Bro, he was like twelve years old" "Did I stutter?"
Alright Keith get off the phone
I’m pretty sure they’d be paralyzed before anything. When they pull that trigger and activate the whole gas mechanism, people wouldn’t be prepared and they’d get folded the moment they try to use it.
...? 50% of the cadets failed the ODM test
Realistically it would be 100% that thing would not work
True, but its an anime with giant naked titans
The titans for sure BUT the ODM gear is unbelievable shockingly feasible Not to the extent of blitzing around a town at 100+ mph, but I guy fucking built functional ODM gear in his free time, then cut the nape of an wumbo inflatable monkey So I strongly believe that if a guy with money smarts and free time can make half decent functional ODM gear, then if as a society we threw millions of tax dollars at creating it? It could be made easily The main issue is the grappling hook grabbing then releasing tho Here’s the video, it’s badass https://youtu.be/8ouS7G6k04A?si=OLzBFwNJSiSowViA
Yeah I always found it strange that there's only one instance in the show of someone tangling their ODM cables. (Eren, during Historia.)
Also the whiplash from the hooks retracting so quickly would hurt like hell.
Maybe thats why they have extensive training with them? 💀
They do not obey the laws of physics
Plus size doesn't equate to strength. Try to break a waist-high brick wall with your hand.
there aren’t female titan worshipers
I think you forgot the person in the first season (forgot his name)
Pixis.
The amount of times that Reiner "almost dies", but doesn't and ends up living in the end.
He just sends his consciusness to his body, like what?
“My anti-Levi technique, I haven’t used this since the heian era”
It’s simple bro, he just sends his consciousness to his balls and just lives, it’s ez bro who doesn’t do this?
Which is hilarious given how much he wanted to die, poor guy couldn't catch a break
Fr when I saw him on that ship to Paradis post-post-timeskip, I was shocked bro didn't off himself in the three years after the war
Grisha Jaeger marching up to the walls, where nobody knew him, claiming he had amnesia but “knew” he was a doctor and not only being let in but being immediately handed a medical practice without anyone asking questions.
I'm pretty sure they imprisoned him first unless I'm confusing it with that one spinoff manga, but either way I can see what you're saying. If Grisha came from outside then he was either an outsider (duh) potential enemy, or he was someone from within the walls that managed to escape, and we all know what happens to those that try to see the outside world so how come Grisha didn't get executed somehow?
I'm pretty sure Shadis took Grisha to the Garrison within Shiganshina, in Hannes' custody in particular. Seeing as the Garrison at the time was largely incompetent and lazy, they took Grisha's words at face value and let him go. It helped too that Shadis, who I guessed was a high-ranking Scout at the time, vouched for Grisha.
Funny because I operated under the premise that Grisha couldn’t come from the outside because early on there was an emphasis made on the walls and security. Then he just waltzes in…
Becoming a doctor used to be more of an apprenticeship type of work than something you studied for decades. Furthermore, he knew more about medicine than anyone inside the walls about medicine, something other doctors would’ve recognized. He wasn’t handed a medical practice, he went to help at a hospital at first.
The physics-breaking, man-eating, immortal, existance-defying giants might be a bit more unrealistic.
Obviously OP and you are both just quipping here, but I just want to point out that there are two types of realism. There’s “this would never work in our world based on what we know about the world we live in” and there’s “that wouldn’t work in their world based on what they’ve established as the rules for that world”. So you can tell me that in your world, these impossible immortal giants are a thing, and that can be fine, but if you also (seem to) tell me that the rest of physics works like we think it does on earth, then those hoods are unexplained magic. Lol. Of course there’s lots of that though. People slam their backs into walls and are fine, they fly around on hooks that would never hold them, or doing maneuvers that would break them in half, etc. So clearly there’s other magic physics going on. You’re both funny though.
>Of course there’s lots of that though. People slam their backs into walls and are fine, they fly around on hooks that would never hold them, or doing maneuvers that would break them in half, etc. So clearly there’s other magic physics going on. This is the one thing I always love and joke about in anime, and probably truly thought about it during the Naruto vs Sasuke fight when Naruto uppercutted Sasuke into the rock wall at final valley. Mfs really be breaking rocks and busting up buildings with their bodies and get up fine, but the punches and attacks from other people is what fucks them up most. 😂 So everybody just stronger than rocks and shit. Megumi and people getting flown through multiple buildings at a time fighting Sukuna, but still being able to move, let alone try to continue fighting lmao. OBVIOUSLY viewers would know most of this is mainly for flashy aesthetics though (aside from the slight damage they do take, which most of those impacts would still turn real humans into splats on the wall likely) but I find it amusing nonetheless!
Oh man that Naruto and Sasuke fight had 8yr old me HYPED, but it also had 8yr old me wondering why these ninjas can tank literal fireballs and boulders and electricity yet a single punch to the gut almost knocks them out cold lol
But that has an in-universe explanation.i can accept things that follow a piece of fiction's rules These hoodies are magic!
No ops right
I concur
Do you have a source that says they don't exist? Exactly
Characters falling from pretty darn big heights and barely even getting hurt
Armin somehow survived falling that insane height that one time too
The Titans themselves were pretty unrealistic.
Citation needed.
https://blogs.mtdv.me/blog/posts/D7WNcP6DrF
Falco getting wings only last minute for the story's convenience
See, now this bugged me at first too until I read something else. Falco was Jaw titan, but his pure titan form was gotten from Beast titan serum, and from a royal at that. We think of the Beast as a monkey, but I believe that each Beast is a different animal (Zekes predecessor was a ram type). So combining Jaw with Beast serum created a Jaw titan with wings. We may have seen other crazy stuff had anyone else turned into pure titan from Zekes serum then also eaten 1 of the 9.
Still non foreshadowed bullshit
But it was foreshadowed. Ep1 of season 4 after Falco is hurt on battlefield he says "was I just dreaming, I was flying in the sky with swords". Now I assumed that meant he was going to get ODM gear or he was going to eat Eren and this was him seeing into tnr future.
Also general calvi was talking about flying titans at the beginning of the Marley arc. Also, season one end credits had a picture of what appears to be a flying titan on the mural in the background. Flying titan was predicted by the community for years before it actually happened.
Yup. Also, uh... his name is Falco. Pretty sure that means falcon or something...
It means the animal falcon in italian language, they call him "falco" there It is also the scientific name of the animal/bird falco/falcon The first bird that falco saw in s4 ep 1 also is a falco peregrinus (nobody noticed it lmao) Unironically you don't even need to put a "n" in his name to means a bird, falco already means a bird even without the "n" from falcon (falco(N) is only the english name of this bird) if aot fans payed more attention to the details... Falco basically transformed into himself
https://www.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/s/cNK9eOplNw Besides from that there another too
God dammit Isayama
Bro his name is "Falco" of course he's a bird it was right in front of us the whole time
the character name is literally Falco ("Hawke" in a lot of languages) I think it's well foreshadowed.
It was foreshadowed, the first time their characters were introduced in the series. Also, every time he transformed, there were added birdlike features in his form.
Let’s just say ppl could use ODM gear as well as they do in the series ppl would still be breaking their legs and shit with some of these heights/speeds they land on
The attack titna being able to travel through time through another attack titan's memories or something like that and causing closed loop time travel shenanigans
The reveal is so cool you kind of just let it slide.
I mean I wasn't really happy with Eren essentially being responsible for the whole show happening
I wasn’t cool with it either but it was a legitimate shock and it worked. I wasn’t cool with Erwin dying either but it made the story fun.
I‘m not too knoweledgeable about other stories that have time traveling but the concept of time traveling itself is bound to create contradictions
Personally I think only a very few selection of movies have done it well such as back to the future. The way they worked so many tiny details into each film that are referenced or payed off later is genius.
Erwin's eyebrows
Lainah's spinal cord hax
The whatever eye roll thingie reiner did to survive levi's stab
You don’t just DIE after getting stabbed instantly It sometimes takes more than half an hour till you bleed out and well.. he transformed after like 3 or 4 seconds so perfectly realistic to me Well and it was even explained why and how he survived that attack
And the explanation was the unrealistic thing
The regeneration is crazy. So fast
>!Reiner survived at the end!<
One thing I’m still confused about after all these years is how the recruits got stuck inside Trost because they didn’t have the gas to go up and over the wall. Then 2 minutes later they have enough to go all the way across Trost to the resupply depot.
It takes much less force to go horizontally than to go vertically, I suppose
But even still, they could just shoot and attach toward the top of the wall, use whatever gas/momentum they can and at least get above the reach of a Titan.
They need gas to shoot the anchors and pretty much ran out the second they hit the resupply area but I see your point
I think the walls are simply further away. The scale of the city is not represented well in S1
levi's height
Man was on the brink of starvation for a WHILE as a kid, its p realistic
HAHA YOU DID NOT-
For real
General resistance to fall damage
Because that's not a hood. That's a foreskin a lot of humans in the AoT universe can deploy and retract at will.
Eren saying that he found out that he was pretty normal...
the existence of titans with steam bones made from sand by a quantum slave in a pocket dimension
Yes
Thomas
Where the fuck do you live my man for this to be the most unrealistic thing?
Fall damge was just turned off
The most shitiest thing on aot was why the FUCK did Ymir loved fritz that motherfucker downright tortured her killed her parents like WHYYYYYYYYYY
He even had her tongue cut out. I wonder if it regenerated, and if not, then why?
…the titnats.
Titnats
The titans
The girls 🥲
You think so? How about TITANS?
Their bodies not getting fucked up by the odm gear but that’s kind of a given
people aren’t usually that big
Eren have friends
Imo rumbling was just stupid in general but what really bothers me is that the environmental impact of titans burning whole continents should definitely kill off remaining humans (eldians on Paradis included)
Odm gear would give everyone whiplash everytime
Most unrealistic thing are the hooks. Firing them and reeling a full grown adult seem fairly easy to develop of the life of humanity depend on it. But the hooks? First they grab on any surface. And I don't care about how they look in the show. Even just making anything decently grab on any surface. Unstick when you want. And be reusable. That's the most unrealistic part for me.
Idk maybe the giant fucking monsters eating people
The unrealistic physics comes from the fact that the characters look like they aren’t falling as they fly. Considering the direction the maneuver gear is pointed in, flying straight forward would still mean they would be falling, unless they’re pointing their hips tilted upwards as well to counteract gravity, and then it should look like they’re sort of hovering, but in real life, it’d still look funny if they weren’t moving up and down. It should look more like swinging most of the time. It’s kind of easier to play off in manga, since you can assume every thought or spoken word is said in an instant, and use your imagination to fill in the gaps between panels with realistic motion. Harder when a character is taking thirty seconds monologuing in their head. Either fill the screen with good animation during unimportant moments, or save that budget for the actual action scenes. Also, it’s pretty obvious when the characters are drawn, they stay still, and the background is moving to simulate motion. Unless they’re yelling crazy loud, it’d be hard to hear each other, especially so far away, with all that wind.
The Titan.
The most unrealistic thing about the plot is that Ymir went back after she got super titan powers and served the same people that abused and tried to kill her when she could have stomped on like ants
That was most of her life that she could remember. Serving them was all she knew.
that actually happens a lot in real life. People stay in toxic relationships, even if the couple got hit, trated harshly, etc. A kid that only knows being a slave, sexualy abused, and the closest thing to apreciation that she knew is that. Its not unrealistic at all that she fell in love to who abused her
The height of the walls vs the houses and the titans.
I think maybe the giant human monsters I think
Titans
Aot
Titan
Velcro
They never wear helmets
The hood staying on your head is quite realistic. What's unrealistic is that Eren can turn into a giant and controlling said giant from its nape.
You ever notice how amateur ODM users have to keep firing their hooks and constantly swinging, whereas the more experienced users can just fire once and then fly? How they doin’ that?
When they have conversations at regular speaking volume when riding full speed horses or flying around in a battle. Shit would be loud as hell and they’re like “ ^^^whatsup ^^^how ^^^ya ^^^doin ^^^titans ^^^amiright “
Probably the giant titans who eat people