I have never met a single person who has said a fruit is their favourite food. It’s always a meal like pizza or burgers or ramen or steak. Not a fucking pineapple
exactly what i hoped for! glad i could spread some laughs. im hoping they do some enterprise stuff in lower decks beyond the grappler for the last season.
Malcolm was boring and unlikeable and when he finally got a dedicated B plot it was just all his friends and family confirming that he's boring and unlikable. Kinda hilarious tbh
Umm, someone is forgetting about the torrid yet repressed chemistry between Reed and the MACO commander. You never knew if they were going to fight or fuck, and Reed only comes to admit his feelings to himself when his forbidden love is dying in his arms. The most tragic love story in Trek.
You are so right.
Malc and Major Hayes having a knockdown drag out? Suddenly there is a sniff of sex about the show and they kill it.
Meanwhile Ive struggled through several seasons of dreck, pew pews and punching. Cringed as actresses go through creepy-ass decon chamber scenes and lingering massage and skinsuit shots. So much of it is just weird, unwanted 'fan service'.
Their ship was attack by pirates who placed a limpet mine and then came back later to collect the ship, oh and the inside of the engine supposedly was signed by Zephrane Cochran himself.
The weird thing about Chakotay is it seems like they genuinely tried to avoid stereotypes. Like he's a member of modern society and comfortable with technology. They never present his culture as obnoxious or annoying. He has a life outside of being miserable from the genocide.
...But then you've got the weird pop culture vision quest shit, using a fake tribe to excuse inaccuracies, having an "expert" that I'm pretty sure everybody knew was a fraud and a bunch of other sketchy shit. God media had warped ideas of minorities in the 90s.
That being said I could see somebody arguing *Journey's End* is worse.
IRL a lot of the stuff the Amish are resistant to actually were already invented when they formed, in a lot of ways they really went backwards rather than just sticking in the past.
Did he?! 😂. I just watched the episode again a couple days ago and was wondering why as someone who is Irish he wasn’t written into the episode more …. And now I know and it makes total sense lol
Oh yeah, the Skrreeans! (had to look it up, even the spelling of it invokes nails on a chalkboard)
The oatmeal-faced arrogant farmer-refugees that wanted to take Bajor as their pRoMiSeD LaNd and hELp WiTh fArMiNg -- which Kira interpretted (correctly imho) as a stealth invasion of the first world they saw.
They looked like they had the plague or something, and I still can't figure out if we were supposed to have sympathy for them or not. They didn't come off as being likable at all.
On the one hand, I can't help but wonder if they really could have helped Bajor to get out of famine mode sooner. A well-fed Bajor would have been in a much better position for later seasons, and might have even avoided that abusive witch Kai Winn.
On the other hand, screw those guys, Bajor was absolutely *not* in a position (culturally, socially, spiritually, psychologically) to welcome in any outside species, benevolent or not, and certainly not en masse. Even if it worked out logistically and even if they did in fact worship the same prophets, there absolutely would have been religious clashes worse than when the emissary-ship was in question.
Kira (edit: and the government) made the right call.
The dude they brought in to "explain" the American Indian culture to the producers was exposed as a fraudster. That's why that all happened. https://redshirtsalwaysdie.com/2021/02/26/voyagers-native-american-consultant-was-a-fraud/
Too lazy to Google, but Berman hired an already-discredited not-an-actual-native-American “consultant” to help write the Chakotay backstory… it’s why the character reads like a faaaaaake
Dont forget the cheesey flute playing every time his tribe is brought up! Its such a let down, id imagine norrh american native cultures evolving as society does would be so fascinating when given the correct insight, this is the world so many of us dream of when we want some damn peace, and I don't think indigenous folks are an exception.
Add on top of this that they did actually hire a consultant to try and get it right but it was *that very consultant who turned out to be a hack and butchered the representation*.
Chakote should have been well ahead of his time in terms of rep.
He was basically blacklisted from the show almost immediately due to confict with how he wanted to be written and what eventually his character was used for.
It’s just so unfortunate because he really could have been such a great character. He was so underutilized and therefore relegated to stereotypical and annoying.
And she said that as she stabbed the man with six fingers in his heart.
“Can you bring my father back, you son of a bitch?” She whispered in his ear as he died.
I guess I don't find mirth in someone insisting that "no," in fact, means "yes" when it comes to sexual advances. Like Picard already said, in no uncertain terms he doesn't want to fuck you, Lwaxana, stop humping his leg
It's like the writers room asked themselves "what if Pepe lepew, but it's a lady? And also what if shes terrible to her daughter? And all of her daughter's coworkers?"
*"a"* good episode?? I feel like you didn't watch enough DS9
As well, if we're taking names of characters that can't take a hint and cross into pervert status, you gotta start at the beginning with the dudes in TOS. That list will be mighty long.
If Voyager was an RPG, Cullah and the Khazon are the level 1 sewer rats you have to grind so you can level up enough to move on to the monstrous spiders and gnolls.
Oh god. It was hilarious that Voyager spent two years being nuisanced by Great value Klingons. A group of people who somehow had space travel yet couldn't find water.
Neelix is a character with, like, traits and depth and an arc. Personally I like him, but even if I didn’t, I can’t see him being comparable to the utter banality of Reed.
Reed is like Worf if Worf was a British man with very few other character traits. And sadly I can’t recall ever seeing him being thrown across the bridge. So not quite.
Nah I'd watch an entire series about Malcolm over a single episode of neelix. His interactions with other characters are at least enjoyable while neelix is excruciating and one of the big reasons I hate voyager... The other being every other character that's not 7 or the doctor
He was so viscerally despised by everyone who met him that Reed Alert was named after him, and centuries later it continues to exist as a reminder to his extreme by-the-bookedness!
he tries to sell it as noble sacrifice, but it's always too soon, before anyone has had a chance to try even the simplest thing to help him. he's so terrified that he can only see his impending death and not, you know, his actual job. there's something cowardly (about a security chief especially) embracing a quick death instead of enduring the stress and pain of trying to live.
The super annoying thing, is Malcolm could have been a revelation. Uptight Brit who finds his feet in space?
Protects his captain and his crew, falls in love with the MACO whose presence he resents?
Same with Hoshi and Travis.
We even see Hoshi get fucking _recruited_ man, this show has to be about her personal and professional development in space, right?
Godamn Enterprise drops the ball over and fucking over.
No please, another scene with T'Pol and Archer eating dinner please. And more massages.
It’s unfair you got downvoted, you’re right. Bakula did some of his worst work ever on ENT (see the Mirror Universe episodes for some especially egregious “acting”) and his character was written quite poorly. If that was the only thing you’d seen him in, it’s fair to think he’s unlikable.
Idk Alexander is pretty awful in every way, from the blackface child actor that played him to the whiny brat they wrote him as. I guess the character succeeded in one way: he allows us to understand why Worf is the father that he is.
Trip was one of the three best characters on the show (along with T'Pol and Phlox). Not exactly like being one of the three best on TNG, but still he's goofily likable, charming, and melted that cold Vulcan heart.
Phlox was very cool. He had sort of a I know more than you need to know thing going on. Sort of like a certain tailor. I loved his alien medicines that really challenged when human thought of as healthcare.
I thought T’Pol was a good solid Vulcan. Not starfleet. Not half Vulcan. Just what if we put a typical Vulcan on a human ship.
Very true, but at least she was given material!
Others did a better job with far less material.
No one wanted a space soap.
But I actually liked Trip.
T'Pol, The Least Favourite Vulcan.®
Worst character? Ah, don't worry, Malcolm Reed. You know, they said the same thing about Neelix?
…
That little snot chef, I'd like to smack that Talaxian!
My dude, Reed was a Section 31 James Bond before he got assigned the job of blowing shit up on the most powerful ship in Earth's fleet. Even when he was losing his mind, his focus was on making the ship more capable of combat. I will not tolerate slander of this man when Neelix sits right there, at a minimum the court ordered 500 feet from both a school and a kitchen.
Yeah, she had actual depth to her personality. She was not just a rich space socialite. She was also a good grand-godmother, an activist for seniors’ rights to exist, and a grieving mother, in addition to her story with Odo.
You bite your tongue, sir. You bite your tongue. I can name a worse character in that series alone: T'Pol.
I bet the only reason you didn't say it was T'Pol was titties, huh? 🤔
How could you say that when we don’t even know his favorite food?
Not even his parents know what his favorite food is
They probably didn't even know that they had a child.
Best comment.
I have never met a single person who has said a fruit is their favourite food. It’s always a meal like pizza or burgers or ramen or steak. Not a fucking pineapple
REED ALERT
JUST rewatched that episode last night.
I still chuckle at that one every now and then.
me too. my partner and i now say REED ALARM in the packled voice way too often.
Lol. Omg. I am literally loling right now. I can hear it so clearly in Lower Decks Packled. Read Alarm. Read Alarm.
exactly what i hoped for! glad i could spread some laughs. im hoping they do some enterprise stuff in lower decks beyond the grappler for the last season.
Malcolm was boring and unlikeable and when he finally got a dedicated B plot it was just all his friends and family confirming that he's boring and unlikable. Kinda hilarious tbh
Umm, someone is forgetting about the torrid yet repressed chemistry between Reed and the MACO commander. You never knew if they were going to fight or fuck, and Reed only comes to admit his feelings to himself when his forbidden love is dying in his arms. The most tragic love story in Trek.
YES. The tension between Reed and that MACO made T'Pol and Trip look like platonic teenagers. I was mad when they killed him off.
Yes. Pure COWARDICE. I was fewmin.
It felt like they chickened out with the storyline. Or some higher-up realized the writers were throwing in gay subtext and literally killed the idea.
You are so right. Malc and Major Hayes having a knockdown drag out? Suddenly there is a sniff of sex about the show and they kill it. Meanwhile Ive struggled through several seasons of dreck, pew pews and punching. Cringed as actresses go through creepy-ass decon chamber scenes and lingering massage and skinsuit shots. So much of it is just weird, unwanted 'fan service'.
I know it's exceedingly hard to remember, but .... ..... ..... *Travis* is literally on the same show.
A character has to be on a show for them to be bad
I swear they devoted a whole episode to whatsisface's backstory and I can't remember if he played any part in it.
"My dad always liked to keep the grav plating at 0.8g. It put a pep in his step." Is the only single thing I can remember from *Fortunate Son*
Their ship was attack by pirates who placed a limpet mine and then came back later to collect the ship, oh and the inside of the engine supposedly was signed by Zephrane Cochran himself.
That’s from Broken Bow lol
I just watched Fortunate Son today and my biggest takeaway was that the guest stars were better actors than Anthony Montgomery (Travis).
Who?
Ignore him, he's just trying to inject an OC. Nobody ever heard of a Travis Mayweather
Yeah, that must be some boomer joke that I just don't get.
I don't know, Ortegas idolized him.
Who?
You know, she's a war hero. Famously flew the ship.
..........Who?
how could you say that when ch*kotay exists
I see someone is far from the bones of *their* ancestors today.
The weird thing about Chakotay is it seems like they genuinely tried to avoid stereotypes. Like he's a member of modern society and comfortable with technology. They never present his culture as obnoxious or annoying. He has a life outside of being miserable from the genocide. ...But then you've got the weird pop culture vision quest shit, using a fake tribe to excuse inaccuracies, having an "expert" that I'm pretty sure everybody knew was a fraud and a bunch of other sketchy shit. God media had warped ideas of minorities in the 90s. That being said I could see somebody arguing *Journey's End* is worse.
When we getting some Amish representation on Trek?!
In Star Trek the Amish are fixated on smartphones and cars.
That would be hillarious.
IRL a lot of the stuff the Amish are resistant to actually were already invented when they formed, in a lot of ways they really went backwards rather than just sticking in the past.
Why stop half way I guess.
So Tom Paris is Amish?
That explains so much!!
You mean the group of drunk Irish luddites that tried nearly set fire to the cargo bay wasn’t enough for you?
As an Irish person, I felt seen
As a fellow Irish person, I find that episode hilarious. Colm Meaney got so offended he almost walked out on it.
Did he?! 😂. I just watched the episode again a couple days ago and was wondering why as someone who is Irish he wasn’t written into the episode more …. And now I know and it makes total sense lol
It’s clearly the *best* racist episode of TNG! 😂
I think maybe Owo is as close as you're going to get for a little while.
The screen (i think that's what they were called) from ds9 seemed very amish
Oh yeah, the Skrreeans! (had to look it up, even the spelling of it invokes nails on a chalkboard) The oatmeal-faced arrogant farmer-refugees that wanted to take Bajor as their pRoMiSeD LaNd and hELp WiTh fArMiNg -- which Kira interpretted (correctly imho) as a stealth invasion of the first world they saw. They looked like they had the plague or something, and I still can't figure out if we were supposed to have sympathy for them or not. They didn't come off as being likable at all. On the one hand, I can't help but wonder if they really could have helped Bajor to get out of famine mode sooner. A well-fed Bajor would have been in a much better position for later seasons, and might have even avoided that abusive witch Kai Winn. On the other hand, screw those guys, Bajor was absolutely *not* in a position (culturally, socially, spiritually, psychologically) to welcome in any outside species, benevolent or not, and certainly not en masse. Even if it worked out logistically and even if they did in fact worship the same prophets, there absolutely would have been religious clashes worse than when the emissary-ship was in question. Kira (edit: and the government) made the right call.
The dude they brought in to "explain" the American Indian culture to the producers was exposed as a fraudster. That's why that all happened. https://redshirtsalwaysdie.com/2021/02/26/voyagers-native-american-consultant-was-a-fraud/
Too lazy to Google, but Berman hired an already-discredited not-an-actual-native-American “consultant” to help write the Chakotay backstory… it’s why the character reads like a faaaaaake
Dont forget the cheesey flute playing every time his tribe is brought up! Its such a let down, id imagine norrh american native cultures evolving as society does would be so fascinating when given the correct insight, this is the world so many of us dream of when we want some damn peace, and I don't think indigenous folks are an exception.
Add on top of this that they did actually hire a consultant to try and get it right but it was *that very consultant who turned out to be a hack and butchered the representation*. Chakote should have been well ahead of his time in terms of rep.
He was basically blacklisted from the show almost immediately due to confict with how he wanted to be written and what eventually his character was used for.
I swear I heard a sound of flute when I read his name
Sir or Madam, this is shitty daystrom.
No, this is Admiral Patrick
That's a stupid question!
yea
Rewatching voyager at the moment and I audibly cheered in an episode where Chakotay got twatted in the face with a pipe....
It’s just so unfortunate because he really could have been such a great character. He was so underutilized and therefore relegated to stereotypical and annoying.
This, but Lwaxana I genuinely did not expect this level of rage and white knighting for the lesser Troi, lol.
wrong.
def wrong. Lwaxana is the goddess of mirth
And the Daughter of the Fifth House, Holder of the Sacred Chalice of Riix, and Heir to the Holy Rings of Betazed.
And she said that as she stabbed the man with six fingers in his heart. “Can you bring my father back, you son of a bitch?” She whispered in his ear as he died.
Even Kai Winn would sing her praises if it meant "being with the prophets"
More like goddess of *girth* hubba hubba dubba bubba
I guess I don't find mirth in someone insisting that "no," in fact, means "yes" when it comes to sexual advances. Like Picard already said, in no uncertain terms he doesn't want to fuck you, Lwaxana, stop humping his leg
It's like the writers room asked themselves "what if Pepe lepew, but it's a lady? And also what if shes terrible to her daughter? And all of her daughter's coworkers?"
The writers did her justice in DS9 and really rounded her out
Yeah that was a good episode. Doesn't excuse her sex pestery
True, but 'permanently horny' as a primary character trait is pretty faithful to Roddenberry's vision of the future.
*"a"* good episode?? I feel like you didn't watch enough DS9 As well, if we're taking names of characters that can't take a hint and cross into pervert status, you gotta start at the beginning with the dudes in TOS. That list will be mighty long.
Lwaxana is genuinely a really great character. It's really nice seeing a character who's life evolves after 50.
Not taking "no" for an answer when your sexual advances are rejected is a real bad look for someone of any age
When did that happen? Like genuinely I don't remember.
Every episode with her and Picard.
Gene having to explain to Patrick Stewart that his wife was gonna hit on him the entire time and he would have to reject it had to be fun.
They looked like they had a blast filming those episodes, for sure
And a couple with Odo.
Cullah There's nothing redeemable about him.
If Voyager was an RPG, Cullah and the Khazon are the level 1 sewer rats you have to grind so you can level up enough to move on to the monstrous spiders and gnolls.
This is a very apt metaphor!
Oh god. It was hilarious that Voyager spent two years being nuisanced by Great value Klingons. A group of people who somehow had space travel yet couldn't find water.
He seemed sad when Seska died and didn't abandon his son.
A moustache twirling villain with no moustache
That's an awfully strange way to spell "Neelix."
Neelix is a character with, like, traits and depth and an arc. Personally I like him, but even if I didn’t, I can’t see him being comparable to the utter banality of Reed.
I've never watched more than a few episodes of Enterprise. Is Reed like Worf if all we ever saw of Worf was h being knocked out by stronger aliens?
Reed is like Worf if Worf was a British man with very few other character traits. And sadly I can’t recall ever seeing him being thrown across the bridge. So not quite.
I thought he was supposed to be French.
He's more French than Picard.
Reed is like Worf if Worf never relaxed and had zero character development. Reed's entire character is just British guy with a stick up his ass.
> just British guy with a stick up his ass Finally I'm represented on Star Trek.
Nah I'd watch an entire series about Malcolm over a single episode of neelix. His interactions with other characters are at least enjoyable while neelix is excruciating and one of the big reasons I hate voyager... The other being every other character that's not 7 or the doctor
It is a weird way to spell keiko, you’re right
Pah Keiko was awesome
Pah-Wraith Keiko was awesomer
Kinda embarrassing admitting you've never seen DS9
Are you talking about me or you?
Boooooo
That jokes doesn't work there's no way to even intentionally misunderstand the other person.
What's wrong with Reed?
According to this post, he's apparently the worst character in Star Trek.
They must've forgotten about the space devil from "And The Children Shall Lead". I've sure tried to.
The space devil in *The Magicks of Megas-tu* is much better.
Worse than The Jack The Ripper Space Cloud?!
I don't hate that one tbh. It's so bad it's kinda funny.
He was so viscerally despised by everyone who met him that Reed Alert was named after him, and centuries later it continues to exist as a reminder to his extreme by-the-bookedness!
If he was a spice, he’d be flour.
Nothing. After all, he isn't Worf.
he's such a petty, small, morose coward who is basically begging for death whenever he's in any danger at all
How do you figure that he's a coward, especially given his willingness to die?
he tries to sell it as noble sacrifice, but it's always too soon, before anyone has had a chance to try even the simplest thing to help him. he's so terrified that he can only see his impending death and not, you know, his actual job. there's something cowardly (about a security chief especially) embracing a quick death instead of enduring the stress and pain of trying to live.
Yeah you really don’t want someone with a death wish in charge of your safety, Odo knew that when he fired worfs brother.
You can criticise him on a lot but I think saying coward is unfair.
I like that 👍
He whines a lot. Also a big ol crybaby.
The super annoying thing, is Malcolm could have been a revelation. Uptight Brit who finds his feet in space? Protects his captain and his crew, falls in love with the MACO whose presence he resents? Same with Hoshi and Travis. We even see Hoshi get fucking _recruited_ man, this show has to be about her personal and professional development in space, right? Godamn Enterprise drops the ball over and fucking over. No please, another scene with T'Pol and Archer eating dinner please. And more massages.
It’s Star Trek: The Non-Woke Years. I’m convinced that people who are like “when did Star Trek get so woke??!” only ever watched Enterprise.
Nah Malcom is great
That’s a weird way to spell Jonathan Archer, AKA “slavery is okay as long as I get my stuff”.
He felt so much like Captain George w Bush that even Scott bacula's charisma couldn't save him.
I always imagined Trip as Bush, but that might just be the southern accent doing some heavy lifting
Connor Trinneer even played George W in the movie [American Made](https://youtu.be/o4Qx71tdsGE?si=6yltC8bca9NGqH5v)
I always thought they looked quite alike. If you put George W, Trip and Brad Pitt in a lineup in that order they looked like an evolution poster lol
OMG that is perfect
Scott Bakula having charisma is news to me. After enterprise I refused to watch anything with him in it.
It’s unfair you got downvoted, you’re right. Bakula did some of his worst work ever on ENT (see the Mirror Universe episodes for some especially egregious “acting”) and his character was written quite poorly. If that was the only thing you’d seen him in, it’s fair to think he’s unlikable.
Everyone has different opinions. I do know his fans are very fervent(I picture them all as Aunt Gail from Bob’s Burgers).
Yeah, Patty & Selma + MacGuyver vibes. Totally.
Neelix isn't malcolm... btw
He got better as they gave him some real story lines like season 3 and 4. Neelix and Chakotay are way worse.
I'm putting you on Reed alert.
It's Kes. Every time she screams, I just want to reach through the screen and slap her.
Now that's child abuse.
malcolm reed is the most one dimensional security chief.
No Odo. He's a dimensionless fluid.
Are we pretending the Kurtzman-era Trek doesn't exist? Because if it does exist, Tilly makes me want to stab my eardrums with an Ushaan-tor
This post is very offensive to Neelix.
Because he's ~~a bastard man~~ from Enterprise.
The man likes pineapple on pizza ... probably.
Now that is slander.
Idk Alexander is pretty awful in every way, from the blackface child actor that played him to the whiny brat they wrote him as. I guess the character succeeded in one way: he allows us to understand why Worf is the father that he is.
Armus, or, Wesley Crusher.
Tilly. Tilly is the worst character in Star Trek. I cannot stand her. Looking at her annoys the hell out of me.
That’s some other show, we’re talking about Star Trek
Wait til the whole series centered around her comes out.
Tilly was good
Tilly was decent after the Killy incident. Still kinda obnoxious sometimes. Makes a good sidekick for Reyner though.
Wrong.
Humans, What is this 'Star Trek' and who is Moclam Deer?
This is far from true, Wesley holds this honor
Kes, Kes, a thousand times Kes.
Only when they brought her back as an inexplicably angry old lady
Reed was fine. He did things. Impacted the plot from time to time. He cared about his job. I think Reed was better than Trip.
Because a warp core is exactly like a fishing boat….. what is this Star Wars where a hyper drive is repaired like a lawn mower engine
Star Trek had a good ol country doctor, it needed a shade tree mechanic too.
Trip was one of the three best characters on the show (along with T'Pol and Phlox). Not exactly like being one of the three best on TNG, but still he's goofily likable, charming, and melted that cold Vulcan heart.
Phlox was very cool. He had sort of a I know more than you need to know thing going on. Sort of like a certain tailor. I loved his alien medicines that really challenged when human thought of as healthcare. I thought T’Pol was a good solid Vulcan. Not starfleet. Not half Vulcan. Just what if we put a typical Vulcan on a human ship.
TPol? 😳 You include HER in your list of best characters? I'm aghast.
She was great, especially whenever she got a storyline. Jolene Blalock mastered playing a Vulcan pretty quickly.
Not a fan tbh. I think I'm resentful on Hoshi's behalf. Hoshi had nothing to do while T'Pol pouted her way through the seasons.
Not the actors' faults when the writers suck.
Very true, but at least she was given material! Others did a better job with far less material. No one wanted a space soap. But I actually liked Trip. T'Pol, The Least Favourite Vulcan.®
Worst character? Ah, don't worry, Malcolm Reed. You know, they said the same thing about Neelix? … That little snot chef, I'd like to smack that Talaxian!
Malcom isn't the most interesting, but he is so much more bareable than characters like Neelix and Tilly.
Kes was awful And Ezri Dax was unnecessary, but not the worst
Stinky.
I was with you until I remembered discovery and picard exists and I cant even remember half their damn names they were so bad.
Reed Alert
Well it’s can’t be Ortega she flies the ship. She. Flies. The. Ship.
Jurati is right there folks.
The way he speaks reminds me of that episode of FRIENDS with Gary Oldman spitting when he talks.
Because you have forgotten Neelix.
You meant worst character in like bad, not worst character like in Kai Winn.
You obviously haven't watched Discovery...
Reed Alert 🚨
Michael Burnham by a mile yet SARU IS AWESOME
Reed sucks but Harry kim is the worst.
Worst in what sense?
It's actually Tom Paris, but Malcolm gives him a run for his money.
Pineapple.
My dude, Reed was a Section 31 James Bond before he got assigned the job of blowing shit up on the most powerful ship in Earth's fleet. Even when he was losing his mind, his focus was on making the ship more capable of combat. I will not tolerate slander of this man when Neelix sits right there, at a minimum the court ordered 500 feet from both a school and a kitchen.
You mean “Stinky”?!?!
Tom Paris. "Sorry.."
There are more than a few Tom, Kim, and B’elanna’s I would list first
Wait who else do you mean? That's the entire polycule.
Because we're pretending neelix, Harry Kim, chakotay, lwaxana, mayweather and Wesley don't exist?
Hey, don't dis Mrs Troy like that. She's a character who added some fun to tng. And I actually really liked her dynamic with odo in ds9
Yeah, she had actual depth to her personality. She was not just a rich space socialite. She was also a good grand-godmother, an activist for seniors’ rights to exist, and a grieving mother, in addition to her story with Odo.
You bite your tongue, sir. You bite your tongue. I can name a worse character in that series alone: T'Pol. I bet the only reason you didn't say it was T'Pol was titties, huh? 🤔
No. NO. WORF EXISTS. WORF. WORF IS A CHARACTER THAT EXISTS. Also, as a fellow pineapple-allergic person, I must disagree on so many levels.
Still better than every discovery character