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psyop_survivor420

None, against the state constitution I believe.


thinkimasofa

Guy didn't want to pay $86, ended up having the city refund almost $2M in ticket to people. Quite the day in court.


DrewFSD

They didn't refund the tickets


thinkimasofa

They [were supposed to!](https://www.thenewspaper.com/news/18/1804.asp) The city must have fought repaying the tickets and won.


jimboni

They refused to refund my $86, said go to court. Would have cost me more than that to get it back.


DrewFSD

Mine was after 2007, they had a different vendor in Arizona at that time.


jonnylj7

Ya he is a hero.


[deleted]

so if i ran one i wont revive a ticket?


psyop_survivor420

Nope, police officer has to witness you do it in person. Even then I usually see them just let it go lol.


Bunt_Frumper

You will not. Your conscience is admirable, be well!


dansedemorte

They are totally gonna kill someone.


dansedemorte

Plenty of people have dash cams though. So, when you slam I to someone there will be record of it.


psyop_survivor420

Dash cam has saved me on 3 occasions in Sioux Falls, proved its worth in the first accident.


Sherm-head

Like others said police would have to see you, but the problem is I have hardly seen anyone pulled over. Along with driving well under/over the speed limit and not using a blinker at all, the police don’t seem to care, until it’s a high speed chase.


Tyl3rt

Our state won’t even provide dmv information to other states who use red light cameras because we deemed it unconstitutional.


archmellow

Last I heard there are no specific red light cameras in Sioux Falls and I believe all of South Dakota (?) due to a judge ruling in 2010, therefore you won’t be ticketed There are red light sensors on some intersections (below) but they dont have red light cameras to catch people who run them. Sixth Street and Dakota Avenue, 12th Street and Kiwanis Avenue, 41st Street and Louise Avenue, 41st Street and Minnesota Avenue, 57th Street and Marion Road, Kiwanis Avenue and Russell Street, 12th Street and Sertoma Avenue, Maple Avenue and the southbound ramp of Interstate 29 (source: Argus leader article from 2019)


[deleted]

what’s the difference of a sensor and camera? The one i ran was the cliff and 271st and i drive by it a bunch and i saw camera looking things on it but it might have been sensors ifk


archmellow

The sensors are little blue lights by the traffic lights. From what I understand they are there to “prove” that a light is red IF a cop catches you running a red light. You can read about them in this article if you’re still interested :) https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/city/2019/06/04/blue-lights-traffic-signals-help-sioux-falls-police-catch-red-light-runners/1329849001/


[deleted]

i belive what i saw is a sensor i just got my restricted a couple months ago so i was terrified to loose it thank you for your help


Bluedog114

The blue lights are on the opposite side of the traffic light. They are there so that if a cop can't see the light itself, but the blue light on the back is on, that can serve as visual proof the light was red for you. Prior to this you could've argued that the light wasn't red yet, it was yellow, etc unless the cop was on the same side of the light as you Edit: autocorrect failed it's job


jimboni

This is correct. So the cop can know if the light is red even if he can't see it. No sensors involved.


MotherOfEira

The city also has cameras up on some lights to [show live feeds of popular intersections](https://www.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/fbaac9e7423f41c7a5ebcdbace527e8c), and others throughout the state that simply monitor traffic flow and road conditons, etc.


hoefco80

The cameras are for traffic monitoring and some of the lights are "smart" and will run longer or shorter depending on traffic conditions.


TurtleSandwich0

There used to be one downtown. It has been removed years ago.


Yetsumari

As the story goes everyone agreed to not pay the tickets and iirc many challenged for them and ultimately made the camera cost more than it was making to operate.


jimboni

I challenged mine. Because they called it a civil fine I had to go to arbitration instead of court. Guess which way their arbitrator ruled?


SDLifer

Because our traffic laws are under the criminal chapter in our codified laws, we have the right to face our accuser. Which means a law enforcement officer has to observe all traffic violations so we can face them in court. Iowa, in Sioux City for example have put most of their traffic laws, especially speeding, into their civil penalties laws so if you don't pay the tickets, they simply send it to a collections agency. That's how they're allowed to have speed cameras. So, you can't contest them in court. It's an illegal constitutional loophole that our SCOTUS has yet to accept hearing a case for.


lizard_king0000

The way people run them it wouldn't surprise me if there weren't any. It's a double edged sword


Lazy_Name_2989

None. With the number of red light runners though, something needs to change.


aleixa_p

These are the only cameras I know of. [Sioux Falls Traffic Cameras](https://www.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/fbaac9e7423f41c7a5ebcdbace527e8c)


Suspicious_Stay9782

Zero


christador

You're good; even Sioux City removed them. Be safe!


Comprehensive-Virus1

Not all of them. I was driving through Sioux City on Saturday evening, stopped at Sam's for gas. The intersection at Sam's has a camera. Flashes were VERY bright as 2 cars blasted through the light.